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Rockstar Hints At "Massive Number" Of Red Dead Ideas

Red Dead Redemption was a massive game with massive appeal. Easily one of last year's best, it garnered a huge following and that huge following has only one question: "when are we gonna hear about a sequel?"

Well, after the rip-roaring success of Rockstar's latest epic open-world adventure, it seems very unlikely we wouldn't see another installment. And although they're not talking about it right now (we imagine they're knee-deep in development on Grand Theft Auto V), they do drop a little hint that tells gamers the team is always thinking about new stuff. In speaking to the Official PlayStation Magazine (as cited by CVG), Rockstar VP of product development, Jeronimo Barrera, first says they're quite pleased with how RDR has been received, and that such a reception has proven gamers want a "game about the wild west." Then, when asked if they had any material left after editing and tossing out potentially good ideas, Berrera said:

"For all the games we work on, we have a massive number of ideas that [don't] make it in."

So maybe they could find a place in a sequel...? Although we remain mostly confident that Rockstar will eventually start toiling away on a follow-up to the gripping Western tale we had all been waiting for, no such project has been confirmed. But in the meantime, what ideas do you have for RDR2? What improvements or alterations would you make?

Related Game(s): Red Dead Redemption

Tags: rdr, red dead redemption, rockstar, rdr sequel

1/3/2011 10:37:31 AM Ben Dutka

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 10:51:45 AM
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Ugh i hope it wont have a load of DLC content, it's completely off putting, that zombie DLC was a pure cash in. It's the same with Fallout 3, i bought the special edition when it first came out and then all that DLC came out too, The same is happening to New Vegas, so i refuse to buy it.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:06:01 PM

I gotta agree. Not worth the extra cash. I bought the retail version and it came with all the DLC packs. Most of that stuff should have been included in the game in the first place. The MP was a complete joke and R* pretty much lied in their ads about what they were going to give us upon release then released it as DLC instead.

I thought the single player was fun and mostly worth the $60 so I can't complain too much, but I'm not sure I'd buy a sequel. The game got massively boring and repetitive about 3/4ths of the way through. I couldn't wait for it to end.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:40:21 PM

I have yet to play Red Dead, But your comment remeinded me instantly of how i felt about GTA. once i got to the third island the repetition kicked in and i just did not find exploring the enviroment as fun as previous games. Now i'm put off more than ever with the addition of downloadable (or as i like to call 'missing) content.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:53:00 PM

It's a much better game than GTA. There's a lot of stuff to laugh at, like the the bugs. But in the end, it just got suooooooo boring. I think I'll be sticking with inFamous for my open world needs. ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:10:33 PM

The DLC for New Vegas is only on 360 for now, big surprise huh? But I don't mind because it reviewed poorly and I've learned that Bethesda DLC isn't really worth it.

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PasteNuggs
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 5:50:38 PM

@Jawknee.
I just finished Infamous this morning and I agree with you about how it's basically the only open world game that doesn't get repetitive. The only problem I had with it is that you didn't get the lightning storm till so late in the game because that was some major bad assery.

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Kevin5
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 10:53:46 AM
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As far as the environment & climates are concerned i'm not too sure how much further they could add to that aspect. They had desert, forest & snow pretty much covered with a solid amount of livestock within those areas too.

I'm personally more keen on how GTAV is going to turn out. I wonder if country & desert backdrops are going to be in this time around like San Andreas?

Regardless, RDR2, GTAV? Both should be epic.

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HighOnFire
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 11:07:38 AM
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Except for all the delays and the unfortunate table tennis game, Rockstar is killing it this gen. I really wish they wouldnt talk about a new Red Dead until they nail down a REAL release date for Max Payne.

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Hezzron
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 11:35:11 AM
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RDR really surprised me with how great it was, and that's despite having the usual high expectations that come along with anticipating a Rockstar game.

I can't wait to see whatever it is they come up with in the way of new characters and story.

Thanks to RDR, I have even higher expectations for the next GTA.

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unnavigated
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 11:51:13 AM
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I hope they take they're time...I haven't gotten to RDR yet, and only now starting Uncharted 2!

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Sir Dan
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 11:55:04 AM
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Anyone ever keep playing as the son after the game ends? Is there any story along the way?

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Jawknee
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:07:54 PM

Nope. I wanted the game to end when I was still in control of John.

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Pandacastro
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:17:19 PM

You have to kill the old guy that betray john.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:21:55 PM

Hmm..I might pick it up this afternoon and do that.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:51:47 PM

SPOILERS!

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HighOnFire
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:57:43 PM

That was an awesome twist at the end. Loved it.

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Alienange
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:31:49 PM
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RDR blew the western theme wide open for video games. Rockstar obviously spent hundreds upon hundreds of hours getting it just right because they knew they were treading not only unfamiliar, but dangerous grounds. Very few devs have this kind of ability. It's no wonder they have tons of ideas left over. They are leaders in this industry.

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 5:46:33 AM

Totally agree. I picked it up on release day, but didn't really start playing it until now -- hard drive issues from the summer, etc. -- and it's become my new obsession.

...trying to knife cougars was hilariously fun... heh.

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slugga_status
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:39:42 PM
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I'm not too sure we'd see a sequel to RDR to be honest. After beating Red Dead Revolver I waited forever for a sequel. Instead got a new installment in Redemption after all this waiting. I doubt we see a sequel but probably a new character, world, etc.

I can wait for a new RDR but I would want to see/have GTA V before that. Even then GTA will need to bring something new to the table..

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Lawless SXE
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 12:53:46 PM
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Red Dead Revelation. Oh yes. But, I hope they take a long time in the making so that I can forget how bored Redemption made me as I got closer to the end. I want to see GTA: Next, Agent and a new Midnight Club, long before we go back to the Wild West.
Peace.

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Pandacastro
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:00:00 PM

Or a new bully.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:13:28 PM

Bully was very fun, I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 12:33:31 AM

I forgot about Bully. The whole schoolyard theme doesn't appeal to me so very much.

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CH1N00K
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:01:44 PM
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I think they should come up with a Canadian version and call it RDM (Red Dead Mountie) If you don't think it's a good fit, go look up a picture of a Royal Canadian Mounted Police uniform, especially from that timeline..They're all Red!!! It's a perfect fit!....

Although I guess it would be kind of a boring story from a Canadian History point of view....I can just picture the dialogue....

"Freeze, eh? and Drop that Beaver....No, You can keep the Beer and Maple syrup...Okay, Thanks, eh?"

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:14:59 PM

"Now listen up... I don't want to offend anybody... so I won't."

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CH1N00K
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:24:39 PM

I'm Canadian, I'm allowed...lol. Now take off ya Hoser!

But what is that line from...I know I've heard it before...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 5:47:09 PM

Family Guy

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:19:21 PM

That could be a long game.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:27:49 PM

That does not sound like a game at all...

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 12:35:36 AM

Now there's something I'd like to see also, but I don't think it will happen until the next console generation at least. Also, twenty in-game days would be enough for a season IMO.

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 6:23:07 AM

I had a conversation with a friend last night about something similar. I remembered a Sonic the Hedgehog game from the Dreamcast that was somehow synced to the DC's internal clock that changed some graphics and visuals for the games at certain times of the year. Like around Christmas time, there was snow and Christmas trees and such.

Now, I could be remembering wrong, but I thought it was a cool idea then, and I think it'd be a cool idea now.

That, and a GTA/RDR option for the game to run in real time, with the disc running in sync with your PS3's internal clock and timezone.

Dunno if it'd work, but it'd be kinda neat. For someone like me, anyway.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 1:18:42 PM
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RDR is for sure a quality game, and perhaps some day I will finish it. My idea for the next one is to ditch the need to make camp in order to fast travel. I'm no twitcher but man it gets boring when it takes a half hour to ride to your next destination only to find a mission that is identical to six others you already did. An RDR2 would have to be a bargain buy for me.

But wait. The Official Playstation Magazine had Rockstar on the line and didn't ask a single effing question about Agent? What kind of crap is that? They haven't got past the title screen in a year?

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 12:38:06 AM

I'm not understanding your complaint World... it wasn't difficult to set up camp if you wanted to fast travel. That being the case, why did you feel the need to ride for half an hour to get anywhere?

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 5:50:12 AM

Haha, I know what you mean. There were so many times -- pre-hard drive crash -- when I forgot you could set up camp and fast travel, or take a stagecoach... and I'd fall asleep riding my horse from one town to another.

It was either that, or get completely side tracked shooting every animal that crossed my path.

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Simcoe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 2:20:37 PM
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I believe the reason why the had to cut out, or couldn't proceed with all those ideas is because they wouldn't have been able to fit everything onto a 8.7 GB DVD - thanks a lot Xbox!

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jaynet333
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 2:44:13 PM
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So Rockstar has a lot of ideas about any game they working on, and not all of the ideas make it into the final product. No real surprise there. It's just a byproduct of the creative process. Maybe we'll see some of these ideas in the form of DLC, if we haven't already. ;)

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 6:20:43 PM

"For all the games we work on, we have a massive number of ideas that [don't] make it in."

This just means Xbox is holding them back

If it was a Ps3 exclusive all those ideas & more would of made it.

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Danny007
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 2:47:51 PM
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I have a question for the fans of Red Dead Redemption:

If there was a sequel, would you want to play as a new/different character or would you want the Marsten story to continue?

Any new ideas for the story of the sequel?

Plus, what new aspects would you want to see in a sequel?

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Auntie Phanboi
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 3:56:36 PM

R* doesn't really use the same characters in their sequels. I've always liked that about them. Keeps it fresh.

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GuardianMode
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 4:33:17 PM

I would love to continue Johns story. He grew on me as a character. More so then any GTA one did. AS for gameplay improvements here is my list.

Upgrade and run the ranch. (micromanage the homestead. Buying horses,selling crops and so forth would be a massive timesink for the hardcore gamer.)
Bigger world (The world of RDR was massive but left no surprises. I want hidden villages. Interaction with the Indians,riverboat rides and fishing spots. Would it not be great to discover a deserted town or village when hunting only to find surprise quests within.)
More weapons. (Bigger guns with mods.) enough said

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Danny007
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 5:02:06 PM

Those are great ideas. Those would ideas would make the game awesome.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 5:48:17 PM

I don't think playing as Marsten again would be an option.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 6:24:57 PM

************
SPOILER
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Marston dies, how can you play as him?
BTW I'd like R* to intertwine a new character like in the Episodes Of Liberty City. Doesn't have to be in the same timeline.

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Danny007
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 6:36:10 PM

Spoiler:

When I asked if players wanted the Marsten story to continue I was referring to Jack Marsten, John's son, so I didn't spoil it for people who havn't played the game yet.

If you don't know already, the player is able to play as Jack after John dies.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 12:42:39 AM

**Potential Spoilers**

I definitely feel that John's story was finished by the time the end of the game rolled around, and as such there is no need to continue it. At no point did I feel inclined to find out what sort of a life Jack had, so I'd prefer an all new character, and a new setting. Imagine an Old West game set outside the Old West, and instead somewhere like... I'm not good with American geography OR history, so... Connecticut?

Nah... Red Dead Revelations is good.
Peace.

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Qubex
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 7:51:18 PM
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Well, I will definitely be picking up the sequal when it is released, sometime in the future. GTAV is also a must... these are day one buys for me...

For me, RDR is a superlative game.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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www
Monday, January 03, 2011 @ 8:16:26 PM
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My GOTY for 2010!

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___________
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 1:19:11 AM
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id love to see a new red dead game.
not a spin off or DLC like red dead nightmare, but a whole new game like RDR.
hopefully now they have the engine in place it wont take them 5 bloody years to make it!
just one thing.
please, for the love of god put in some missions that are actually fun!
i really, really want to finish the game so i can see what happens, i hear its got one of the best endings in a game ever!
but i cant force myself to do it because the missions are so god dam boring!
just like GTAIV Oprah is more entertaining than the missions in those games!
taxi driver galore, go pick this guy up take him here, go find this, go find that.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 2:03:18 AM

They kind of had the engine in place extremely early on in production. After all, it uses the same engine as GTA IV, MCLA and R* presents Table Tennis. It just required some modification to get the hills and all that just right, and then they didn't even get the physics for the animals in until a couple of months prior to release.

Also, I think Red Dead is going to be R*'s "serious" series, so I don't expect to see too many off-the-wall missions.
Peace.

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___________
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 7:04:14 AM

yes the engine was already in place but they had to build the whole world which would of taken ages!
its freaking huge!
i just wish R* would stop with these boring as bat sh*t taxi driver missions!
they create the most technology advanced games out there, but my god are they boring!
when a guys saying he would rather watch than play a R* game you know theres something seriously wrong!
thats how boring R* games are!
worse than watching paint dry!!!!

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 12:26:16 PM

As for the world, I don't really see R* reusing it. Perhaps portions of it, but not in its entirety. Originality in their environments is one of their strong suits, and I think that's why it's taking so long for them to show off anything in regards to AGENT.

But yeah, the "taxi" missions get on my nerves as well. It's not that I have anything against them per se, but they need to be spread out more with a greater diversity between them.
Peace.

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___________
Wednesday, January 05, 2011 @ 6:36:34 AM

its taking them ages to show anything for agent because its set in a different scheme something R* have not done before so the whole environments will have to be built from the ground up like RDR and GTAIV were.
thats why there games cost so much and take so long to develop because every game they do they more or less start from scratch.
yea they have the RAGE engine in place but thats about it!
i cant understand why they dont start reusing worlds, for GTAV use liberty city, for the new RD game use RDR, for the next MC game use LA.
not every sequel has to be set in a different environment.
they would make a much larger profit doing that, and better yet we would have to wait 2 years for the next game instead of 6!
so,so,sooooooooooooo cant wait for agent especially since its a ps3 exclusive!
but its going to be a looooooooooooooong time till we see that!
id be surprised if we see any footage before next years E3, dont forget they still have LA Noire and max payne 3 to show off.
id say LA Noire this september, max payne 3 Q3 next year and agent mid 2012.
than they have GTAV to cram in there, which would probably be the last to release since they have not announced it yet.
well thats what common sense would tell you, but that does not exist at development studios anymore.

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