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Mass Of Skyrim Details: Story, Combat, Social, Structure, More

Bah. Why wait for the magazine when virtually all the stuff hits the 'Net weeks before the print publication hits shelves?

Well, we still ask that you support print in some fashion. Just sayin'. Anyway, it's not surprising that certain forums like NeoGAF have been poring over the available details for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, which is featured in the February issue of Game Informer, and the list of information has grown rapidly in the past 48 hours. We know we've got an abnormal percentage of role-playing fans in our community - and there ain't nothin' wrong with that - so we're bringing you the highlights.

Check Gamemunition for a full list of the current "what we know so far" elements. It's a lot bigger than you think... Firstly, we learn that Skyrim takes place about 200 years after Oblivion, and you'll be tasked with the quest of killing the dragon's God...because the dragons have returned. Secondly, a few changes- you won't select a class at the start of the game, but you can choose to boost health, magicka, or stamina after each level, so as to create your own stylized character.

The combat is also "more tactical," in that you can assign each hand a certain function. The developers want to improve the combat and weaponry and oh yes, enemy level will progress with your own, so don't think grinding will be the answer to all your problems. Here's a brief sampling of that large info list:

  • Third person view has been improved.
  • 5 massive cities, more variation in caves and underground stuff.
  • There is an option for no HUD.
  • On Conversations: Conversations aren’t done in a zoomed in static shot anymore.Start a conversation with some and they will act like someone would in real life, looking at you occasionally and walking around a bit and also continue doing a task if they were doing one while talking.
  • On Weapon smithing: Go to a forge and carve a new weapon out of red hot metal.
  • Dual-wielding: you have two hands now in combat and you can wield anything to both hands. You may assign a dagger on left hand and use a mace with right hand. The choice as they say is yours.
  • Duel: You may duel any NPC on the streets western style.
  • Inheritance: When you kill a shopkeeper, his/her family member will inherit the shop and will be angry about you, but still give you missions.
  • Level-scaling: It is coming back.
  • 18 skills: supposedly even less skills to play with?
  • No mysticism.

And here's something especially cool:

"'Radiant storytelling' or Level Scaling 2.0: The game eventually logs a huge storehouse of knowledge about how you’ve played, and subsequently tailors content to your capabilities and experiences. Entering a city, a young woman might approach you and beg you to save her daughter from kidnappers. The game will look at the nearby dungeons you’ve explored, automatically set the mission in a place you’ve never visited, and designate opponents that are appropriately matched to your strengths and weaknesses."

Does anyone else really not like the idea of enemies adapting to your level...? One of the only reasons I'd want to play the game is so I could become a God at some point...sort of annoys me that no matter what I did, I'd never be able to really dominate. Oh well.

Related Game(s): The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Tags: elder scrolls v, skyrim, bethesda, game informer

1/8/2011 10:40:46 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (33 posts)

Temjin001
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:02:14 AM
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Sounds awesome. And yes, the whole enemy leveling thing has been something of a turn off to me. Frankly, I never beat Oblivion, it started getting so hard I didn't want to stoop to scaling the difficulty bar back. Friends tell me that it took them several restarts to get the progression right. But apparently, they claim that if you do buy and get the most powerful spells and equipment you can kick some serious butt. I dumped in around 40+ hours, or so, as it was. And in game like Oblivion, the experience of the adventure and wandering was what made it engaging to me. Not to say I didn't like the story.

I'm somewhat surprised that it takes place after Oblivion seeing that it looks the part of Viking/Norse orientation. But anyway, this has absolutely no bearing on how I'll enjoy the game.

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frostface
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:16:57 AM
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I'm interested in this game but I also have a problem with the leveling up running parallel with enemies. Whats the point in leveling up at all? May as well stay at level one and just play through the missions/story. Of course you're gonna level up but really whats the point?

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WolfCrimson
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:21:18 AM

FF8.

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frostface
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:32:21 AM

Never played it!

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WolfCrimson
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:50:04 AM

WHAT?! That's blasphemy!!

lol

Anyway, what I meant was it is similar in FF8. Monsters level up as you do. You can become waay stronger than they are with the help of the Junction system and all the magic and summons you get, even though they're the same level as you. Maybe it's possible in Skyrim as well, because you do increase your ability points (Athletics, conjuration etc) which could give you the edge over monsters.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 12:05:36 PM

I was thinking FFVIII, too, but as Wolf said, you could become much stronger with the help of super spells, GFs, and Overdrives.

The system worked extremely well...although I'm still not sure if it's a good idea to hit Lv. 100 and then fight Omega, when he has max HP and does max damage...I kept thinking it would actually be easier to be slightly weaker, just so his Terra Flame wouldn't do 30k damage to everyone. LOL

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bloody_rootz
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 8:37:57 PM

I agree with you Frostface. it does seem to defeat the whole purpose of levelling up. It is very satisfying when you chuck in the hours to craft your character into a brutal warrior. But if your enemy's are going through the same progression as yourself then really what is the point???

although im still gona buy this game on the first day im a little bit frustrated about that one issue. It will still be bloody great in any case. hopefully the spell's and equipment you acquire through out the game can counteract against the whole levelling thing. Who knows the developers must have there reasons for doing this.

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The Doom
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 10:43:10 PM

@frostface
WTF? An rpg isn't an rpg without a good leveling system! That's how you build up your character and make them more powerful, especially against enemies with higher lvls than yours. It's true and anyone who says otherwise is a lying, hell-bound, false prophet!

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BTNwarrior
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:59:45 AM
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I wonder if this one will sport the full invisibility glitch like the last two

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 12:35:08 PM
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That all sounds great but I have to concur with everyone else. This system of critters levelling up with you has GOT to go. Part of the fun is wandering into a place you probably shouldn't have and getting your ass handed to you. Or going back to a place and slaughtering them in one hit. It's like there's nothing to overcome.

But it's no deal breaker because that's how they've always done it and I like Oblivion. It's really all about the wide open world and approaching situations at your whim via combat, social interaction, stealth, etc.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 12:40:37 PM
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Oh yeah, don't sleep on Two Worlds II. I have a good feeling about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOseL_Aytck

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 9:22:58 PM

Just got to keep our priorities in order I guess :)

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WolfCrimson
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 4:06:02 AM

TW2 doesn't look great at all. At least from a graphical and animation standpoint anyway.

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shaydey77
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 12:12:27 PM

That looks like its gonna be epic.

@world off topic but what's the name of your new avatar? Don't think i've seen her before??

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ValdiPS3
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 1:18:18 PM
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i am playing Oblivion right now, is a great rpg, but already have to restart my game because my elf get murdered to quick because he focused in sneak, now i am playing with a ork warrior, things are more smoother, but is only the beginning...i will probably buy skyrim.

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hellish_devil
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 12:06:25 PM

"more smoother"

lol

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Alienange
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 1:49:12 PM
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Um, the enemies level up with you yes, but they're not as powerful as you. If you upgrade your abilities you can give any enemy a God-like spanking.

The sole purpose of the critters leveling up with you is so you're not constantly fighting rats. The rats becoming wolves keeps the game fresh and interesting. By the end of the game you've got what, a couple elementals to fight? They were no match for sneak attack arrows.

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BTNwarrior
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 4:23:39 PM

there should still be a couple of super dungens across the map that have high level characters and godly loot for those willing to risk it.

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Pandacastro
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 5:46:52 PM
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Could someone tell me what these games are about? Im thinking of getting the fourth one.

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 8:40:20 PM

A fantasy setting where you play as this dude who can wander around collecting herbs, swing axes under water, steals horses and evade being placed under arrest. Go wherever you like, do whatever you want--well, you can't climb trees--it's all up to you. There's a story in there, too. I just had lots of fun living like a nomad wandering the lands doing whatever suited my fancy.
Aside from the ton of sarcasm, it's all true, just spun for good humor. Seriously, though, the game has a lot of reviews out there worth checking out. It's good entertainment for those who want to experience something fantasy, RPG, and uniquely entertaining.
Go get it! FYI: No trophies ;)

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Nerull
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 8:16:39 PM
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Looking forward to it even if there is a few less skills, getting rid of the static conversations alone makes up the difference.
I only did one complete playthrough of Oblivion but my swiss army character was pretty god-like by the end.
He had surprising armour for a master summoner/healer, could bash just about anything up close and sneak just enough to get through all the assassinations and thieves guild.
I started on Morrowind first but I could never get it to run well with all the addons needed to make it well-rounded.
The worst running glitch that ruined me early on was the time when ALL enemies inexplicably gained mad health regeneration and the ability to throw fireballs.
Needless to say I never went back to it, werewolf expansion or no. For all its touted freedom it seemed to me like one giant multitude of fetch quests, moreso than most rpgs..

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Zen_Zarab
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 10:06:30 PM
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Yes, Yes! YES! Omg!!!! I think I'm going to explode!!!!!!!!!! :D!!!

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___________
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 12:43:54 AM
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this is EXACTLY why i dont bother buying magazines anymore.
i use to buy PSM3, GI and OMPAU every week because i loved reading the previews but now 99.9999999999% of the content is online weeks before!
like this, or the new preview GI did for LA Noire read it yesterday even though the mags not coming out till next month!
why pay for last months news when you can get it for free and a month earlier!?

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 2:26:31 AM
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Still have to finish Oblivion. And a massive stack of other games too.

I think with Skyrim I'll do what I did with Oblivion... wait for a GOTY edition or Complete Collection to come out with all the DLC, maps, quests, etc for about half the price of the launch title. Sure it's about a year or more's wait, but I'm patient. Skyrim isn't on the top of my list.

Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, Littlebig Planet 2, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Duke Nukem Forever, Twisted Metal, Dead Space 2, Infamous 2, the Last Guardian, Batman Arkham City, L.A. Noire, Portal 2, Bioshock Infinite, Gears of War 3, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, ICO / Shadow of the Colossus Collection and Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword ALL sit on my high priority list just above Elder Scrolls Skyrim.

Honestly, with all those games on my list to get, I think I can wait that extra year for the GOTY edition of Skyrim. ;)

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 2:28:19 AM

If there's any big titles I missed that I should add to my list that are worthy, please let me know, am nearing the end of uni and have plenty of time on my hands right now.

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Qubex
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 6:21:49 AM
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Skyrim is looking good no doubt... bring it on!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Alienange
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 10:55:20 AM

That's not broken scaling you're describing, that's a broken gamer. Gamers who don't plan and think while playing an rpg deserve the beatings they get.

In my time with the game, I didn't find shutting the gates of Oblivion a complete cakewalk even at higher levels. There was rewards there to be had, I just couldn't carry them all out. :p

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Temjin001
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 10:55:36 AM

yeah, that sounds consistent with other sources. There's a lot of trial and error. Literally having to restart the game just to rebuild your character the proper way.

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Fane1024
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 3:06:24 AM

The biggest problem with Oblivion's execution of the level-with-you system is that, while enemies do, allied NPCs do not, turning them into liabilities if you are too high level.

The intent of the system is to allow the player to progress through the main story at their own pace, in 15 hours or after 150 hours.

p.s. I have huge piles of Daedric equipment lying around my various houses which were a pain to haul home and which I essentially can't sell. I hope they fix the economy as well.

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eLLeJuss
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 11:09:22 AM
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"so I could become a God at some point...sort of annoys me that no matter what I did, I'd never be able to really dominate. Oh well."

-Story of my life.

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Kai200X
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 12:49:22 PM
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I'm very happy regarding the new detail about shopkeeper. I remember in Oblivion I accidently kill several shopkeepers and was unable to complete some quests. Now I don't have to worry about that anymore.

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Fane1024
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 3:12:29 AM

Save early. Save often.

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kutter6billion
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 11:59:32 AM

I feel your pain. I lost more than one Oblivion quest because bears killed one or more key people. My house cat can wade through demons, but two brown bears and he has to put his Speed score to good use. Still can't stop playing that game!

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