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Sony Reinforces Move Goal: To Cater To The Hardcore

If a gamer was forced to choose between the PlayStation Move and Microsoft's Kinect, Sony would ask one question in reply: "how big of a gamer are you?"

We've heard this business philosophy before and Sony continues to stand by it: as reported by the Wall Street Journal, the makers of Move say they will continue to focus on the hardcore crowd. Director of Hardware Marketing, John Koller, has confirmed that they're "layering on more and more core titles" in 2011, and he's talking about games that specifically cater to the big-time avid players. Of course, such players tend to be interested in the deeper, more complex, more immersive games, especially those that feature realistic action. Koller adds that the technology behind Kinect "can't match the greater precision of PlayStation Move," which is something we've heard before. In regards to Kinect, Koller said- "The limitations are such that you can't create all the games you want to do." Upcoming Move games include hardcore stuff like SOCOM 4 and Killzone 3.

Microsoft has reported that they've shipped 8 million Kinect units in the first 60 days of its release, and Sony says they've shipped 4.1 million Move units since the new tech launched in mid-September. Koller admits Microsoft's number is "impressive" but also adds that Sony is "happy where we are in the market."

Tags: move, playstation move, sony move, move ps3

1/14/2011 8:45:45 PM John Shepard

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Comments (36 posts)

PasteNuggs
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 9:53:39 PM
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I know a lot of friends who got the Kinect bundle for Christmas and they are like "I didn't even want but it's ok".

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Lawless SXE
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:07:33 PM
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That's good to know, but I'd like to know what they've got in the pipeline. Sure, we know about KZ3, SOCOM 4 and Sorcery (although the "hardcore" designation of that is debatable as yet), but what else really is there? I thought that there would be an initial drought, but within six months we'd start to see more information about other titles trickling out.

What about a game similar to Demon's Souls? Absolutely brutal, while forcing you to take your time through it, or another similar swordfight simulator (Woah.. I hate alliteration)
A turn-based RPG, where you use Move to select your battle commands. That would actually be slack, but perhaps it would require certain movements to get the most out of the attack.
How about something to rival SMG? Like LBP designed around the Move, rather than incorporating it simply as a multiplayer option.
Even more like Echochrome 2. They could make a killing with innovative PSN titles like Flower.

Maybe it is simply too early to be expecting this, and we should wait until the end of the year, but I want to see Move being utilised as Sony wants us to think that it is being. Oh well, at least we still have more options than Kinect :P
Peace.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:12:02 PM

Yes, I very much agree. I believe the Move has the capacity to be a favored "hardcore" interface but the content to draw in that audience just doesn't appear to be there, or even coming for that matter. It looks MS is cashing in big by making no bones about marketing straight at the brain dead game player who gets their kicks out of the simplest of gimmicks.

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jaynet333
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:14:44 PM
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I know I've said this already in a comment in another article, but 8 mil kinect sold "would" be impressive if MS didn't dump $500 mil into its marketing budget. I don't imagine kinect has made a profit given $500 mil plus R&D and manufacturing costs. Given the fact that Sony didn't likely spend even half the marketing budget that MS did, I consider their sales more of a success.

I also agree that Move is far better suited for a wider variety of gaming.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:26:16 PM

Yes, very good point. Let's assume, though, that MS is making $50 a pop on each Kinect sold. And let's assume 6 million of those 8 million are legit sales. By this estimate, they've already made 300 million back from the hardware alone.

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SmokeyPSD
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 6:15:41 AM

Lots of assumptions there

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 6:26:56 AM

You know what they say about assumptions. ;)

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ABUrabad
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 8:12:31 AM

but the thing I'm afraid about that sure there will be not such a big income back when you consider that 500 000 000 being pumped into marketing budget but with this huge marketing this will FORCE more people to get into the Xbox world far away from Sony ,

I mean MS would say " let not get them to buy a Sony , then we are winners "

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 9:35:54 AM

Well, I like to be an ass =p

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Fane1024
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 4:53:58 PM

They make an ass out of u and mptions?

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 7:55:06 PM

Shh.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:19:14 PM
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Still sticking to my DS3 for now. But ya know how Sony is, come in with the best tech and let the sales slowly overcome the crappier product.

Who wants to bet half that 8 million was mothers duped by oversaturation of the media by MS and the other half was the ridiculous number of giveaways? ;)

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kevinater321
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:22:45 PM
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I'm just waiting for the killer app. Killzone is great and all but better to play with a dual shock. When a game comes out that i can play better with the move than the dual shock (that is actually a good game) then i will find my move controllers that are hiding somewhere in my closet.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:33:55 PM

I'll wait for the killerapp too, but it's gonna have to be one that is hardcore and especially made for move. Sorcery doesn't look like my thing, but it's a step in the right direction.

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GuernicaReborn
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:28:19 PM
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I'm lovin move so far. I think, although I'm not sure, that my shoulders are sore from playing gladiator duel and archery. They've been a little sore the past week, and thats all I can think of that I've done out of the ordinary. That and some work on my truck.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:33:19 PM
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Something I want to sort of sound off on. Who cares if Sony ever "closes" the gap. Popularity does not equate to quality. There seems to be like a billion Dodge Caravan's on the roads today, but I'd take a Honda Odyssey over a Dodge any day (that's right, I am using family vans for my analogy ;)
So who cares if this Kinect-kraze spurs major 360 growth over the coming months. It doesn't matter. The quality software and premium game sales is what counts, and from the looks of it, Sony has that top secured for some time going forward. Besides the mass market trend brand isn't doing the real multi-genre hardcore fans any favors.



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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:35:33 PM

While I'm inclined to agree, I think I speak for many stupefied gamers when I say it would be nice to close up that gap just to put an end to the fanboy claim that better sales equal better overall software/hardware/online play etc.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:43:28 PM

Just like Sauron, against fanboys there can be no victory.

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Highlander
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 10:46:48 PM

Temjin.

That is why such blind (and negative) fanboys are called the Eye of Moron (aka Mauron).

As for analogies, I was thinking of the humble Ford Pinto, how many were sold and how many are still on the road today...

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Temjin001
Friday, January 14, 2011 @ 11:04:34 PM

hehe, my older brother drove a Ford Pinto.. I don't even think that car made it into GT5. hehe Pinto. Like the bean. Style'n

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ABUrabad
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 8:16:42 AM

Everybody knows that the 5 000 000 margin may to be considered as replacement for the RED RING of death phenomenon and maybe the number is far away more than that , so I don't consider these numbers to be legit


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Fane1024
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 4:56:16 PM

All the ones that didn't explode when they got rear-ended.

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SolidFantasy
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 12:30:21 AM
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It all comes down to KZ3 for me. I'm interested in what Ben and Arnold think about the handling of the move with that game.
There are tons of other applications that could work with hard core games, but I'm still waiting to see that happen.

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Alienange
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 1:08:17 AM
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If Sony wants a killer app for their Move controller they'd better scrap the fps support they've got going and start looking at dance games more seriously. Or are they planning on waiting four years before imitating THAT success as well?

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___________
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 2:42:35 AM
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only move game im really looking forward to is socom 4 and sorcery.
have to admit that is looking really cool!

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Robochic
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 8:26:29 AM
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I think Sorcery will be an amazing game for the PS3 Move can't wait.
I know Sony will bring more out for the Move just like they did with the PS3 on launch they take their time they don't rush which is why i love the company they feel quality is way better than what they're numbers are at least that's what it seems.

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Danny007
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 9:07:49 AM
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I haven't gotten Move yet. I want it, but there is to many games coming out this year and I have a limited amount of cash. I'll get before Playstation Move Heroes comes out, hopefully.

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amzngskillz
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 10:09:33 AM
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Can you imagine swinging Kratos' fiery blades with the Move. It seems like that would be a blast if done right!

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Maiq The Liar
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 6:39:39 PM

GOD,,, you would get cramp! haha

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DemonNeno
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 10:35:07 AM
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I'm still putting money on the move being the PS3s last big punch. 2011 will be the year of all sorts of gaming, but for the move this will not be the case, imo. Instead, with core titles establishing an benchmark to work with, 2012 will show far more progression in the realm of the move.

Where the kinect fails, the move shines. It's just like any other technology the breaks the barrier of hardware limitations. It'll only be limited to ones imagination and creativity, not by the ability of the hardware. Once we get something that'll wow the audience and make an convincing argument regarding it's hardcore gaming ability, the flood gates will open.

The move is impressive. There's no question about it. It's fast, accurate and comfortable. It has software downfalls, though. Nothing I've played has been as glitch free, although I've only played with sports champion and most glitches are acceptable and noninvasive to gameplay.

I hope Sony puts in a good effort with software because god knows the hardware is ready for some abuse!

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bamf
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 3:45:28 PM
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It seems the majority here want move to cater for more hordcore games. Killzone 3, scorcery and socom 4 are the beginning for whats to come. The beauty is that in theory almost all games can be move compatible. And all games that come out for the Wii, we can also have for the PS3 with silmultaneous launch.
I don't think the same can be said for kinetic. I feel PS3 owners are waiting for more intriguing titles before they make their purtchase. Where as 360 owners have just gone for kinetic just for the sake of it. I have a 360 and a PS3. I bought myself the PS move as admittedly I had cash on the hip but wanted it for those hardcore games.
I was asked if I wanted the kinetic as a present from my brother. After seeing it in action I declined it. It was on show in a game store and there were these teenagers trying it out. there was this cursor on screen and this lad with his hands trying his best to move the cursor. It was this boxing game very similar to what you would find at home on the Wii. when the game was ready to start the bout, the user was asked to place both hands above their heads to start. which he did, but it failed to start. you could see he wasn't doing wrong, its just it was so unresponsive to his actions he was performing.
I can't say if this is the case generally with all games but it was enough to put me off. It has to be a 'try before you buy' rather than be a 360 fan and just buy it.

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RebelJD
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 5:45:57 PM
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I have faith in the Playstation brand. It's probably obvious that "hardcore" games take longer to develop and for that reason alone I understand why we don't have triple the amount of Move exclusives on shelves by now. Still, our PSN is an amazing tool that has great companies that should put in an effort to make some awesome Move games.

I have my fingers crossed for Playstation Move Heroes to be a hit with critics as well as comsumers/gamers. I want it to be a damn good game! Same goes with Sorcery when it releases this year as well. Big titles like those, that succeed, will encourage to all other awesome "under the radar" games to surface.

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Maiq The Liar
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 6:38:07 PM
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I WANT a proper gladiator game! (for move)

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tdinc1
Saturday, January 15, 2011 @ 8:32:54 PM
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Move is great!

cannot wait for KZ3!!!! SOCOM 4!!!!

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White_Mocha
Sunday, January 16, 2011 @ 3:05:02 PM
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i've gotta be honest, i've only used my Move for about 2 weeks since buying it but i've still got Sports Champions here at my dorm and i've been having a craving to play it lol.

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 17, 2011 @ 4:49:52 PM
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MS may have shipped 8 million Kinects, but I'll make bet at least 1/3rd of them aren't even being used on a 360.
The hacker/modder/homebrew/tech communities have been snatching them up for use in other non-gaming applications.

Plus another thing you all need to remember is...
how many of thousands+ of those Kinects that MS reported shipped, were actually given away at the Ellen show, Oprah's show,Jimmy Fallon's show, Jimmy Kimmle's show???????????????

Plus....all the pre-release free Kinect giveaway parties MS sponsored, the Times Square Kinect release.
And not to mention all the Kinects given out to all the Boys & Girls Clubs of America.
Plus all the contests, including Burger King's.

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