Square-Enix Provides Best Vids Yet For Versus XIII, Type-0

Obviously, the big news today was the announcement of Final Fantasy XIII-2, but let's not forget about other games in Square-Enix's relatively large hopper.

Both Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final Fantasy Agito XIII turned heads at Square-Enix's Production Department press event, and that's primarily due to two lengthy trailers. Both sport that trademark FF gloss and veneer; the production values of both should be outlandishly high. Furthermore, this is the best look yet we've had at either, so we're giving you both trailers as they're worthy of discussion.

Here's the 7-minute Versus XIII trailer:

Agito XIII has been confirmed to be the mysterious "Type-0" game we had heard about recently and in fact, that's what the project is to be called now: Final Fantasy: Type-0. It's scheduled to arrive for the PSP some time this year and up until now, we've really only seen a few screenshots and located a bit of baseline information. But this trailer helps:

So, what do you think? Is Square-Enix on the right track? Along with FFXIII-2, is it time to start rooting for our former favorite RPG developer? Or are they just continuing on down that "Western" road, all the while alienating those who loved them in the past? Maybe it's a wait and see situation...

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Final Fantasy Agito XIII

Tags: ff versus xiii, final fantasy, agito xiii, final fantasy versus xiii

1/18/2011 3:15:31 PM Ben Dutka

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Ultimadesires
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 3:33:23 PM
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Versus looks nice i'll give it that but somethign struck me heavily. The bit where he's in battle and avoiding the missles, that does not look like an FF game that is more of an action game. Also there is one character that shoots in 3rd person, other than that, mindblowing.

I hope it relates to XIII though, i heard it's set in the same world and there is certainly a reference through that poster, i'd like it if XIII & XIII-2 were like old fable tales for Versus world, and some of the characters are decendants from the XIII cast. If there is no relation what so ever, it should just be called FFXV

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DarthNemesis
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:02:48 PM

The game was said to be action oriented since day one and that's the best thing about the combat.I personally like that they did not make it turn based -which is archaic- even though that is not a popular thing amongst JRPG faithfuls.People need to understand that in order to keep up with the times,the combat in JRPG games needs to evolve.An exception would be a niche strategy RPG like Disgaea.All that should matter is that it looks great,which it does.Best looking FF since FF7 IMO.

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Ultimadesires
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:09:18 PM

I disagree, Lost Odyssey is one of the best games this gen and it has turn based combat, not everything has to be action orintated all the the time. Just look at all the God of War rip offs we've had recently ;)

The problem with people with your attitude is your trying to merge all games into one genere, look at horror games, people whinned about the control scheme for that and now look at RE5, its not a horror game but a 3rd person action game.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:18:15 PM

Gotta agree with Ulitma on this one. While I like how Versus XIII's combat is turning out I don't agree that JRPG's "must" evolve. Japanese game companies "evolving" their games to please the Western masses and twitch gamers has done a lot more harm than good.

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coverton341
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:34:12 PM

I agree that Versus has been labelled as an action RPG since they announced it so that aspect of it doesn't bother me, I was kind of expecting it to have the battle style that it seems to from the video.

I am going to have to side with Jawknee and Ultima though and say that "evolution" of the JRPG genre is what has it in such a sorry order it is in at the moment.

JRPGs are in a genre of their own. What you are thinking they should turn into already exists in the genre of action RPG. Are you really stating that in order to stay fresh that JRPGs need to just turn into action RPGs? That would remove an entire genre of games, not freshen things up.

JRPGs do need a bit of a change up, but not in the core mechanics of what make the genre. More like in artistic styling and settings maybe but not in basic gameplay elements that have defined the genre. Just look at FFXIII, a great game on its own merits but a horrible JRPG entry; no towns, no world map, no strategic turn/active time battle system.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:42:03 PM

@coverton

Excellent post. The constant demand that games be innovative and must somehow evolve does beg the questions you ask. JRPGs that 'evolve' into action oriented titles arg simply now action RPGs. As you say, a genre is a genre.

To me the things that need updated/improved are things like story and character depth, the number of non-combat related puzzles to solve. I don't like an RPG that is just a case of fighting one random encounter after another to get from A to B. Make me think along the way too please. The last thing that I think needs to improve is actually the customization. By this I mean two things. First is your own character. If a game includes your own character, it needs to be a part of the story, not simply a silent partner. the second is the character customization during game play. That is when a character gets a new piece of armor, a new weapon, or an accessory, when it's equipped, the character model should show that. Cutscenes need to be done in engine so that changes to a character's appearance and equipment are not jarringly reset ever time you hit a major cutscene with a pre-rendered character dressed in generic items.

I still need to see a proper turn based combat system too.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 5:36:33 AM

FF games have always had parts like that.

Parts where you are running around avoiding falling things or stuff like that.

I personally think its insane.

One of the things I love about FFvXIII is that it is exactly what they said it is, and action/rpg with a similar feel to the KH series, and thats exactly what it looks like, it looks freaking awesome!

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 3:33:42 PM
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ugh, I hope this game stays exclusive. I can't take another heart breaking disappointment from Square. ha!

Time for them to start focusing on the PS3. They have had 5 years and have only released one less than stellar game for the PS3. Makes me a little sick when you compare Square from last gen to this gen. Their MS pandering really is pathetic.

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Ultimadesires
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 3:55:57 PM

Well I for one loved FFXIII but we've been over that enough, S-E also relased Star Ocean, but then also alot of medicore games for the 360. XIII-2 is apparently out this year in Japan and next year for us. Hoepfully VS should be out even earlier, right? It's been in production for quite a few years now, must be getting there.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:16:20 PM

I would hope that it comes out this year but I doubt it will.

In regards to Star Ocean, that game wasn't made for the PS3. It was a 360 port and from what I have read, not a very good one.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:29:38 PM

It really wasn't that bad Jawknee, but it wasn't developed by SE, they only published it./ the PS3 version had better graphics and some fixes as well as additional content over the 360 version. It surely isn't a perfect game, but it is better than you make it sound.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:34:27 PM

From what I read the graphics were worse on the PS3 version. Didn't mean to make it sound terrible, didn't think I did with what I posted. I was just pointing out that Square's PS3 support has been pathetic this gen and because we got a Star Ocean port, that doesn't mean they are absolved of their sins. ;)

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coverton341
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:43:34 PM

Just a little glimmer of hope, I was reading somewhere (sorry no time to search a link) that the development team wanted to reassure to everyone that they are still working on the game exclusively for the PS3 and Tetsuya Nomura himself reiterated that there is nothing in the works for the 360 in regards to this game.

The unfortunate side to that is, that is probably why it is taking so long for this game to come out. SE is probably pulling developers off of this game all the time to help with XIII or XIII-2 because they want more to please Microsoft's deep pockets more than they care about getting this project on shelves

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:44:32 PM

The PS3 ran at 720p, the 360 version didn't. The worst thing about the graphics was the high contrast color palette used. Some landscape elements were just too colorful. Some complained about the repetitive use of monster models from planet to planet as well. I didn't mind that, but I see the point.

The game's biggest issue is that it's a bit of a slog because it's a long grind of 'random' battles to get anywhere.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:45:18 PM

Versus will eventually end up on the 360.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:53:34 PM

@Highalander, I see. I do remember reading some of those complaints. I didn't know the 360 version was sub HD though. Not surprising.

@Limited, you're probably right. I just hope that if it does end up on the 360, that Square at least doesn't compromise the PS3 version for the sake of the 360 version like they did with XIII.

Last edited by Jawknee on 1/18/2011 4:56:27 PM

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:34:01 PM

@LimitedVertigo

We'll see.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 3:46:24 PM
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Here's a glimmer of hope that Versus XIII will remain exclusive. People are saying Nomura "stood his ground" on PS3 exclusivity when asked about it at this conference.

Also seems Type-O(Agito XIII) will be BIG! Requiring two UMD's.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/01/18/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-still-ps3-exclusive/

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coverton341
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:46:26 PM

Derp...I guess I should have read this post before answering your previous one eh?

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:54:11 PM

Ha, it's ok. You offered some info I did not. :)

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Teddie9
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 6:54:05 PM

Nomura's my hero if he can keep this up.

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:01:14 PM
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Considering the man who's at the helm of Versus, I seriously doubt that the game is part of Square-Enix's "western" thing.

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Metallisnake
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:04:01 PM
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very impressive i am playing ff13 and its ok they could have done soo much more if it wasnt for the port the xbox360 got.........i believe they can redeem themselves with this and Typo 0 to the playstation universe

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WolfCrimson
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:17:05 PM
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Versus looks amazing. It's like KH but with more serious overtones.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:18:35 PM

More mature for sure.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 8:23:06 PM

Hey LV,
Welcome back

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:21:30 PM
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The first half of the 7min Versus trailer impressed me but once the game showcased its gameplay in the 2nd half of the trailer I was pretty let down. Just looked like a bunch of hacknslashing followed by damage points scattered across the screen.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:28:07 PM

Dude! Welcome back from the beyond. Long time, no Limited Velocity.

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coverton341
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:35:25 PM

If I had been expecting anything but an action RPG I would have been let down as well, but I was pretty much prepared for what it looked like. I think for what it is it will be a good game, that is if you are into the action RPGs.

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tes37
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:35:34 PM

I was looking for a menu to pop up on screen indicating some kind of decision making during battle other than hitting a face button on the controller.

I guess the name Final Fantasy is no longer associated with role playing games.

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coverton341
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:48:12 PM

@tes37
The spin off titles are not always set up like RPGs. Just look at the Dirge of Cerberus. This has been billed as an action RPG for a while.

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tes37
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:58:41 PM

My only experience with an rpg that wasn't made by the Japanese was with Oblivion and I didn't particularly like it. I will give SE a try this time around when it comes to action rpg's and see if I like their approach.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:19:04 PM

I think Limited goes on pilgrimages to Square-Enix HQ. He recites his list of demands through a megaphone and then runs away.

...we've all wanted to do that, in truth.

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:24:33 PM

@LimitedVertigo

Perhaps you neglected to pay all that much attention to the magic casting and other special abilities, the vehicle control, the third person shooting, and the spectacular set pieces.

Versus looks like it incorporates elements from numerous genres, and it also looks like they're really making it work.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:38:56 PM

Excuse my slight brain fart earlier, but did I call Limited Vertigo, Limited Velocity?

..blinks..

..blinks..

I think I need more medication.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:54:47 PM

So the green bastard returned.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:27:40 PM
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Nothing short of a glowing review from PSXExtreme will get me to look at these games.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:35:22 PM

I think Agito XIII will be good. They seem like a completely different developer when it comes to the PSP.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 9:10:04 PM

True Jawknee, they make goddamn good games for the PSP.

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CHAOS THEORY X
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:32:15 PM
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Seems like KH battle style, which is better than FFXIII, but not my beloved classic turn based. I hope its not linear, which it looked like. Also, I got very annoyed at the one part where it turned FPS with the girl and the gun. Also, wtf is up with manning the robot?!

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:25:55 PM

They already stated a while ago that the game will have world maps and airships. So I don't think you have to worry about that.

As for the gameplay, it looks like a natural evolution from Kingdom Hearts, or perhaps as Nomura said a while ago a combination of Kingdom Hearts and Dirge of Cerberus. As long as they don't remove the classic RPG elements ala Mass Effect 2 they should be fine.

Last edited by Looking Glass on 1/18/2011 5:30:55 PM

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Bonampak
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:45:17 PM
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Are they just continuing on down that "Western" road? Obviously the answer to that is yes.

Let's face it, since XIII they started catering to casuals by adding a guided-experience gameplay to the mix.

Now, these 'action' elements that some consider to be "modern", are nothing more than S-E targeting to the other bane of this generation: twitch gamers.

I guess they got tired of the cosplay crowd being their #1 costumer and are now trying to reel in mostly Westerners. The type that spend days playing CoD. Same ones that would think twice before playing a game filled with people that look like fugitives from a weird showtunes musical.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:46:47 PM

Nothing wrong with trying to broaden your consumer base but SE has gone way too far.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:56:05 PM

In regards to Versus XIII it was announced from the beginning that this would be an Action RPG. As far as Agito XIII, it looks pretty JRPG to me with a battle system that reminds me of Crisis Core. Which I liked.

I think XIII is their biggest example of dumbing down the game play to please the "new" gamers.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 4:58:37 PM

Look, let's drop all the pretense. SE is no longer making JRPGs, they make action RPGs.

As for the comments about cosplayers. The JRPG audience is a lot of things, but the majority of people who like and play JRPGs are not cosplayers. Remember, by abandoning the JRPG, SE has abandoned it's home market. I get the feeling that you are making value judgments about cosplayers and "people that look like fugitives from a weird showtunes musical". Should I start making value jusgements about how shooters appear to require little more thought than that required to pull a trigger repeatedly?

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Jutter
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:08:33 PM

With Versus I don't see it being Westernization from SE. KH has done very nicely throughout Japan and Versus has a more realistic KH feel throughout the combat so, I don't see this as SE trying to cater to Western gamers. The Japanese like action RPG's as well.

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Bonampak
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:16:44 PM

@TheHighlander I'm talking specifically about XIII and not JRPG games in general. So I don't get where you got the idea that I was branding the entire JRPG crowd as cosplay fanatics.

My point however, was that S-E was targeting the casual crowd with that game. By dumbing it down so much.

In regards to the 'fugitives' comment, this is something that in my experience, is what many FPS fans think of FF. They actually think that the FF franchise is the equivalent of a chick flick. It is NOT what I think, though. I was just trying to show how dumb it is to cater a crowd that doesn't appreciate Final Fantasy for what it is. They won't touch it unless S-E modifies it to fit their taste.

Basically, destroying it the same way they killed the RE franchise with the action-oriented RE5.

Last edited by Bonampak on 1/18/2011 5:17:37 PM

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:18:08 PM

@Bonampak

Actually, I seriously doubt that Versus is part of Square-Enix's westward push. Squaresoft was dabbling in this kind of Kingdom Hearts style action RPG gameplay well before the merger.

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:27:38 PM

@TheHighlander

To be fair, Kingdom Hearts did get released well before the merger.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 11:43:37 AM

I think it's easier to accept something like KH as an action RPG since that's what it has been since the original. People obviously get uptight about changes to the things they already know and love. I think Highlander is commenting specifically to the FF franchise in regards to the merger.

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Culoslap
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:15:43 PM
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Guy needs a haircut. But don't they always in these games? Besides that, I'm not disappointed. I'll give this one a chance.

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Lotusflow3r
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:32:40 PM
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VsXlll looks....good.

....but it's all production values atm, not enough to pull me in. MIGHT be the 1st Enix game i get this gen....depends what other games or ACTUAL Jrpgs are out then.

Still waiting bloody news on WKC2!

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JSwayze
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 5:56:43 PM
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Oh please let this stay exclusive and hopefully drop Spring of 2012

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LightShow
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 6:07:59 PM
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if my understanding is correct the team that made the Kingdom Hearts games is behind this. i was and am still a big fan of the action/rpg mix that the kingdom hearts games brought to the table, and i'm very excited for this game.

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eLLeJuss
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 6:36:45 PM
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IF they show a trailer just to show the towns and interacting with npc's and shoppin and stuff. That would've been enough for me. I want the classic feel back damnit..

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 6:46:30 PM
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Hmm, this looks great but nothing jawdropping.
Though the graphic looks very sweet and the gameplay varies.

Well at least SE got more of my attention with the new Versus XIII trailer.

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Riku994
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 6:49:17 PM
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Im glad that Versus trailer was so epic, it's great that it's still exclusive, I want a release date though >_<

Also, Type-0 will be on 2 UMD's.

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King James
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 7:49:47 PM
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The Versus is lacking something. I can't quite put my finger on it.

Oh well, as i thought, Versus will have to be my KH3 since S-E doesn't wanna make it.

Whatever happened to those blood effects that was in the 1st teaser. I thought S-E was gonna make a M-rated FF finally.

Last edited by King James on 1/18/2011 7:50:50 PM

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Jonesy555
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 8:13:01 PM
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I'm so glad that the gameplay in Versus smoothened out. The early gameplay videos I saw, Nictus(I think that's his name) was moving very choppily. And Type-0 looks good too. SE is sorta forgiven for not giving me Kingdom Hearts 3 yet. . . sorta.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 5:43:15 AM

To me....

Its like they took KH and made it HD and realistic, and put it into a FF setting.

I never thought it would be a good idea, but then i saw the master piece that is, Versus XIII

HEYYYYY!!!

Maybe in KH3 we will have Lightning and Noctis as characters in the game, just like Cloud and all the others.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 1:35:05 AM
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I have to say that unless I see ot hear something that makes me want to kick someone's teeth in, I will have interest in just about any game. Both of these look to be more than decent, and I'll be happy to add them to my collection.

Although, does anyone else think that Agito is a much smoother title than Type-0? They couldn't have simply dropped the XIII part of the title could they? Now, S-E, do that thing that most devs do when they unveil a game and give us a rough release date.
Peace.

P.S. While I'm going: Considering S-E have had their conference, isn't it high-time for R* to do theirs? They were too big for E3, so let's see it.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 5:39:17 AM

Agito sounds like an anime character. Not a game.

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___________
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 1:42:32 AM
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sorry $E, but after that atrocity you call FFXIII you could not PAY me to play this!
XIII is all the heartbreak i can take thank you very much!
i can only sit here and watch a corporation whore out my favorite series for so long.

Last edited by ___________ on 1/19/2011 1:43:19 AM

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Akuma07
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 5:38:44 AM

This is being made by a completely different team than XIII.

vXIII has always been exactly what it was said to be, an action/rpg with a KH feel.

Im sure when it releases and its an awesomely fun game you will change your mind! ;)

If not, then i will eat my own words.

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Looking Glass
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 7:01:13 AM

@Akuma07

Be careful. That no-name guy is quite the troll.

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Veitsknight
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 1:48:52 AM
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Have any of you tried watching the older Versus trailers with 3d glasses, the red and blue kind? I really think something will happen for some reason.

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Ultimadesires
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 7:04:30 AM
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I do not undertsand you people, not at all. You whine about XIII changing everything, then you praise this game, where it looks even more like an action game than XIII!

Look at the trailer, you control the lead with the D-pad as he avoids rockets in combat and the game frequently turns into a 3rd person shooter. Yes the game looks good but, no doubt about it, but so is XIII. I just dont get it..

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Looking Glass
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 7:59:35 AM

This game is apparently widely viewed as Square-Enix's last and perhaps best chance to redeem itself. And besides, the man and team behind it are the same people who brought us the much beloved Kingdom Hearts franchise and Final Fantasy VII Advent Children. So there are many who have high hopes for this game.

And furthermore there has also been confirmation that this game will be bringing back world maps and airships, both of which are popular elements from the franchise that XIII omitted. So there is the perception that this game may very well be the current generation Final Fantasy that many have been waiting for.

In general it's not really as unusual as one might think for people who were disappointed with XIII to have high hopes for this game. This game is called "Versus XIII" after all. Versus mean "in contrast with" or "in opposition to" after all.

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spiderboi
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 10:11:32 AM

I get where you're coming from, but perhaps 2 words may explain: Action and RPG.

FF13 was touted as an RPG, yet in turn, didn't turn out to be the usual RPG we've come to know and love. FF13vs was brandished as an action RPG akin to Kingdom Hearts. So long as it delivers on its mentioned genre, we're good. :)

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 11:51:02 AM

First off, LookingGlass is spot on, so I'll try not to expand on what he's already pointed out.

Second, if as a dev, you say, "FFvXIII will be an actionRPG with a KH feel." People aren't going to be disappointed nor surprised when you release a game that is an actionRPG with a KH feel.

If, on the other hand, you say, "We're going to release the next major FF title in the franchise!" And deliver a game that does not resemble the franchise... whether it's good or not is irrelevant... is going to disappoint some people. There should be no suprise that some people felt misled by FFXIII.

I have no problem with you loving FFXIII! In fact, I'm glad you found a game you really loved! But I believe that traditional fans do have a right to be disappointed, just as you have a right to enjoy it. Aside from that, folks at this site who didn't like it have given valid reasons as to why. Which should be far more welcome than just saying "I didn't like it, just 'cause".

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Nynja
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 10:44:56 AM
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Final Fantasy was not always about gameplay for me. It was more about a gripping story with deep game mechanics. It seems to offer the gripping story. I am far more interested in VersusXIII than I have ever been with FFXIII.

I would still love to play another great turn-based RPG on current generation of consoles, but I still cannot wait to get my hands (and eyes) on Tetsuya Nomura's next masterpiece.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 12:02:31 PM

Yeah, Tetsuya Nomura always seems to have something to do with well developed characters.

I felt like a couple of the FFXIII characters were interesting, but they weren't developed very well from a literary or theatrical standpoint.

I feel like the story was actually pretty good, and I wanted to learn more, but I can't say I particularly cared for any of the characters. None of them mattered to me. You need to build characters beyond trying to define them by one single event in their lives.

The cast of FFVII was so memorable, despite poor translation in the dialogue, because each character had a rich and deep history and back story. All of them had a back story that goes back YEARS! Cloud has his loner childhood, events of Nibelheim, time developing a friendship with Zack, and more... Tifa shares a similar history to Cloud, a lost mother and father from 2 different events (and the mother loss developed her inability to emote tremendously), Sephiroth is an interesting villian that is MUCH deeper than simply being evil, Cid's whole life devoted to the rocket and exploration and life goals, etc., Vincent has a REALLY rich and deep back story, Yuffie is relatively weak storied, but has enough to give her motivation, Barrets loss of family, friendship with Dyne, betrayal from Shinra, and years of fighting, Aeris, of course, needs no explanation....

But my point is, any great story or narrative provides an excellent back story that dictate why people are the way they are. Whether those events take place during the game or not. FFXIII's characters ALL depend on very recent events with little backstory. Only Fang sounded interesting with a big past, but they NEVER explored that!!! Lightning had potential too, but again... it's like they didn't care!

You can't develop characters based on a solitary event. You can develop their motivation, sure, but not their characters. This is why FFXIII's story, while good, does not measure up to expectations. FF's 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 all did this well. It's why Vivi is such a beloved character above the other characters of IX... his history and origin is so much deeper!

Even FFXIII's villain is pretty weak...

Last edited by Underdog15 on 1/19/2011 12:05:33 PM

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DrRockso87
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 12:19:45 PM
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Looks awesome. I hope the gameplay has some of those "tricky action sequences" from 'Advent Children' Nomura promised us (obviously it will; flashy attacks have been a staple in the "Final Fantasy" series since VII). Can't believe how much diversity there is to the gameplay. Magic, melee, third-person shooter, etc. *drool*

All we need now is another trailer that shows a) the "2-D world map in HD", car, Chocobos (pleasssssse), airship, b) those flashy animations I was talking about and c) Noctis speak in English. I know we'll see all of those at E32011 though. Can't wait!!

Also, why is everyone comparing this to XIII? Everyone realizes that they're two entirely different games created by two entirely different teams? Better yet, why are people actually stating that 'Final Fantasy XIII' is an "action-RPG"? You all realize it's "turn-based" right? Whether you dislike XIII's battle system or not is irrelevant. It's turn-based. Is it bad? Yes but it still is turn-based. Versus XIII is a Action-RPG instead and as much as I don't mind turn-based, I'd like to take a break from it for an Action 'Final Fantasy game.

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Teddie9
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 6:50:47 PM
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No! blocked by Square on copywrite grounds...

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Looking Glass
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 7:13:54 PM

No problem. Just check out gametrailers.com

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AnonWTF
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 @ 8:21:04 PM
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Damn, it. They blocked it before I could see it...

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Looking Glass
Thursday, January 20, 2011 @ 5:07:40 AM

I know that it's hardly necessary for me to say this but please take note of my previous post here if you haven't already.

Last edited by Looking Glass on 1/20/2011 5:07:53 AM

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AnonWTF
Thursday, January 20, 2011 @ 4:36:36 PM

yeah, after I posted mines I read yours. That is the reason why I gave you a thumbs up =)

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corneliusw
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 3:00:42 PM
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yea this looks like final fantasy is returning to greatness! As I have been disappointed with the series as of late, they lost the core foundation of the game. anyone hear anything else about the multiplayer for Final Fantasy Type-0? all I could find on it was this http://finalfantasytype.com/multiplayer-details-for-final-fantasy-type-0-14

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