Crytek: Crysis 2 "Demands More" Than The Unreal Engine
Crysis 2While the Unreal Engine is immensely popular, developers with bigger and more ambitious visions usually create their own engines, simply because...well, what is popular isn't always best.
Crytek is using the CryEngine 3 for Crysis 2, and they say their new engine is powerful enough to drive just about any game out there, but Epic's Unreal Engine wouldn't have been capable of running their upcoming sequel. Thing is, Epic boos Mike Capps recently stated that he was surprised people would take Crytek seriously as a multiplatform studio (Crysis 2 will be their first console game), so Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli was asked if he's confident the CryEngine 3 can face down other technology, like the new Unreal Engine 4. Well, Yerli's reply to CVG seems plenty confident to us:
"I think we've never cared about what competitors do. That might sound arrogant and ignorant but that's not the point. I'm trying to do what we think is the right thing to do. We're trying to build an engine that's the most productive from a flow perspective, one that allows designers, directors, artists, programmers and everyone else in the whole development chain to be as efficient as possible.
Most importantly, right now we're looking at multiplatform development and I just think that our competitors' engines couldn't deliver Crysis 2, and that's the most important statement for me."
Yerli added that Crysis 2 simply "demands so much more" and while he isn't claiming Crytek boasts the "best engine in the world," he does say there's plenty of room in the industry for multiple available engines. And the bottom line is that they created the CryEngine 3 specifically for Crysis, so we should be satisfied with the result. Finished Yerli:
"Whether our engine is better or not is something to be judged by the people who use the engine, but I can say that Crysis 2 wouldn't have been possible with any other engine, but pretty much any other game that has been shipped with out competitors' engines could have been done with the Crytek engine."
Related Game(s): Crysis 2
Tags: crysis 2, crytek, unreal engine, ue3
1/24/2011 10:36:55 AM Ben Dutka
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big6
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:15:15 AM
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Jawknee
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:18:01 AM
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spiderboi
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 12:34:01 PM
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STAY3R
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 2:44:08 PM
bioshock, arkham assylum, gears of war, conviction, mass effect
What crytek gave us this gen? what?
yeah 2 awfully unoptimized PC Games
Epic is EPIC, comparing them with crytek is like comparing a GT3RS with a corolla
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Teddie9
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:07:16 PM
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BeezleDrop
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:19:14 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 5:09:34 PM
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Highlander
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 5:22:08 PM
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Qubex
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 1:58:00 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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SayWord
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:11:22 AM
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Jawknee
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:16:50 AM
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Unreal doesn't seem capable of powering 90% of the games that does use it. All this talk from Crytek about their engine over the actual game makes me think Crysis 2 is going to be all fancy graphics with halfassed gameplay and story.
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Qubex
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 1:59:58 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:17:09 AM
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I've saw gameplay vids from E3 and I wasn't impressed..considering these are supposively the best graphics on console they's got a long ways to go before reaching the levels of KZ2...which erm, was released 2 years ago?
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Simcoe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 2:39:49 PM
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big6
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:17:46 AM
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I can't see how they would optimize this engine for the PC/Xbox, and also be optimized for the PS3.
If they were to optimize for the PS3, it would require some radical changes to the engine design (memory allocations and math calculations). I just don't see them doing that...
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Temjin001
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:30:58 AM
I do seem to remember Crytek claiming that Crysis 2 is "currently" running better on PS3. But we all know how those claims go once the rubber meets the road.
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Jawknee
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:35:40 AM
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jimdude99
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:27:22 PM
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Qubex
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 2:00:51 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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maxpontiac
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:22:20 AM
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So, how am I to take this statement?
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Temjin001
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:23:46 AM
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big6
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:41:39 AM
"right now we're looking at multiplatform development"
So that excludes the qualities of such games as Uncharted, Killzone, God of War, etc.
"but pretty much any other game that has been shipped with out competitors' engines could have been done with the Crytek engine"
Noticed he didn't say "all". He said "pretty much". That means the odd multiplatform game could not be done better with Crytek 2 engine.
But which games are those? It's up to you to decide.
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Temjin001
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:43:11 AM
So what about KZ3, huh? THink your new fancy engine can handle that, huh? ....... yeah, didn't think so
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Jawknee
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:32:04 AM
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Lawless SXE
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 12:11:52 PM
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big6
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 1:29:28 PM
I'm having a rough time with "Enslaved" right now. I'm nearing the end of Chapter 3, however...the story isn't anywhere near gripping, and it's hard to keep interested in playing.
It's very formulaic. You start a stage, Trip uses the dragonfly to point out the endspot, mechs, bombs, etc. You traverse the stage, move on to the next.
I'm really hoping the story gets better in the later chapters.
Aside from that, I'm finding that I'm constantly fighting with the camera and the controls for Monkey are very herky-jerky. It's hard to place Monkey at a precise spot because he continues to move several frames of animation even after I've stopped moving my controller.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:47:07 PM
The good news is the story does get better, there's more comedy too, but the bad news is the moment it starts to become at all gripping the game is over.
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big6
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 5:00:10 PM
Thanks for the info on Enslaved.
I'm going to try one more chapter and see if I can start liking the characters in it.
If not, then I'll likely jump straight into Mass Effect 2. I got the 1-hour PS+ trial and really liked it.
However, it took about 30 minutes just to customize my Commander Shepard. So really, I only had about 30 minutes of gameplay. (not enough)
But I must say, the actual game plays *much* smoother than the demo.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 6:10:09 PM
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Bloodysilence19
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 12:29:36 PM
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With uc2 looking better than crysis that's debatable. Uc2 pushes the ps3 visuals/grahpics into what games should be looking like on ps3. only problem its not mulitiplat. what i mean most exclusive games look outstanding on ps3, but mulitiplates look like garbage on ps3. Only two mulitiplates actually that look good that i think of is Dante inferno and ME2 now. I wont believe crysis 3 will look good on ps3 till actually seeing real gameplay footage on ps3. To many epic fails when mulitiplates are on the ps3.
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Snaaaake
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 12:35:32 PM
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Anyway, why doubt them when Crysis was one of the best looking game of all time?
They are sure to provide a game with all-awesome graphic but we'll see the difference between CryEngine 2 and 3.
And I'm sure is looking forward to Crysis 2, FPS-crowded generation but 2011 looks to be the best of them all.
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Kiri
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 12:39:38 PM
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But since their games need to be the same on both platforms, they pale in comparison to ps3 exclusives...
But i won't be quick to pass judgement to his words until they make one ps3 exclusive game... :P
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jdt1981
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 1:43:17 PM
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Beamboom
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:39:06 PM
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jimdude99
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:29:05 PM
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jdt1981
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 8:50:32 PM
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elass0wyp0
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 2:30:03 PM
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Temjin001
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 2:34:37 PM
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jimdude99
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:30:11 PM
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Temjin001
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:46:41 PM
and pffft IGN
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:43:18 PM
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A2K78
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:46:33 PM
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Developers aren't creating their own engines due the fact they have bigger or ambitioius viticious visions,but rather doing it for economic reasons.
You do undertand that that it cost a developer in the area of $700,000 just to license use of the UT3, right? Then there are royalties that Epic also collect on sales which IN real world numbers actually drives the cost of the engine higher.
Now in such an arrangment don't you think its makes better economic sense for a developer to invest in their own technology so they can collect 100% of the profits as oppose to sharing it?
Now for people that say Crytek's technology is inferior to that of ND, how many of you have actually played Crysis 2, yet alone any of the Crysis games? I'm asking because all I see are people who probably have never even touched a Crysis game.
And for the record, Uncharted games look inferior when compared to the first Crysis game.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:47:41 PM
And in any case, if you can afford the investment in your own engine it will decrease cost of sequels (should your first game not suck)
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jdt1981
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 8:58:11 PM
Also don't expect Crysis 2 to look as good as the original Crysis due to the fact that Crysis was a PC exclusive and Crysis 2 is running on CE3 which is a multi-platform engine and therefore probably wont push PC hardware anywhere near Crysis did.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 3:49:22 PM
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I wish DMC could use it, but it's multiplat. Unreal is gonna screw that game up so bad in NT's hands.
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A2K78
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:23:51 PM
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Investment in ones own engine doses not decrease the cost of sequels. Why? Because game graphic engines are constantly being worked on which in turn add to the overall cost. Why do you think developers constantly complaining about the cost being development high?
If anything your comment just demonstrate the ignorance gamers have about the way the industry runs.
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Highlander
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 5:25:12 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 6:12:36 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 7:06:43 PM
...hilarious.
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sirbob6
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 4:48:18 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 6:15:41 PM
I can't speak as to anything besides the graphics because my PC can't even run that powerhouse, but it seems that that is the biggest thing it has going for it.
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___________
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 2:16:12 AM
they promised so many mods and tools with cry engine 2 and have released almost nothing!
they have been a PC only developer for so many years, so now, the first console game they release everything is console exclusive.
want the beta?
better have a 360!
want a demo?
better have a 360!
wont be surprised if the maps are released early for the 360 too!
funny way to treat the fans who have been supporting you, and keeping you afloat for so many years!
thanks for keeping me in a job, now f*ck off!
funny way to say thank you!
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___________
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 2:12:32 AM
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god, never have i heard someone boast so much!
youre the biggest sellouts since $E bought out eidos!
how can you treat your PC fans like this?
we have supported you for years, put up with your shonkey poorly optimized games and this is how you thank us?
absolutely unbelievable how customer support has gone down the sh*tter these days!
if crysis 2 is so good, than why have we seen nothing but 360 footage since its announcement!?
ive got allot riding on this game, im sure it will live up to expectations, but im seriously starting to get sick of there cocky attitude!
your not jesus christ you know?
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Imagi
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 8:53:35 AM
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Credit where credit is due, though their games are resource heavy, if you want to know what kind of thing to expect from a PS4 game, run their 2007 game Crysis on a good PC rig of today.
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A2K78
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 9:17:15 AM
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I suggest you visit
http://www.crymod.com
Of course if you actually knew about that site then you wouldn't be complaing about their support for modders.
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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 @ 7:37:19 AM
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Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 11:06:39 AM
"I just think that our competitors' engines couldn't deliver Crysis 2"
He negated himself right there.. Weird.