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Will Anything Ever Replace Traditional Gaming Methods?

So the NGP is here, both Sony and Microsoft have joined the motion-sensing movement, consoles are closer to PCs and full multimedia home entertainment machines than ever before, and the multiplayer boom has changed the face of the industry forever. But will the day ever come where the traditional setup - a console, a gamepad, and a TV - be replaced by something all new?

The PlayStation Move and Kinect are advanced versions of what the Wii offered several years ago, but despite cool accessories and neat-o unique ideas for motion-based interactivity, it doesn't seem possible that any such form of interaction will replace the controller. One could argue it was more about the keyboard and mouse early on, but the dawn of this industry began before there was any such thing as a mouse. And in truth, the groundbreaking Atari isn't much different than the PlayStation 3: a system, a controller, a TV. Sure, all of that has gotten much, much better over time, and we've even added 3D into the mix, but essentially, how we play the majority of our video games hasn't changed much.

So what's next? Virtual reality? Kinect or Move times a hundred? An entire world that takes place in the lenses of glasses we put on; no TVs required? Who knows? But it all seems a ways off, and for now, despite all the many ways we can virtually interact, the traditional gaming method seems to remain the widespread favorite: pressing buttons and watching something happen on a screen. And you know, you can call me old-fashioned or whatever, but I'm perfectly fine with that. I'm just wondering when we'll see the first full shift to something else; some new technology that changes the way the majority of gamers get their entertainment.

Maybe we won't have too long to wait...

Tags: video games, gaming industry, console gaming, portable gaming

1/30/2011 9:27:23 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (70 posts)

PasteNuggs
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:40:50 PM
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I will always want a controller in my hands. That will never change. They continue to make the hardware better but I will always want to have a physical controller.

Reading this article made me think of the movie Demolition Man when Stallone and Sandra Bullock put nodes on there temples too...well "satisfy each other".

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:41:53 PM

I remember that movie. Only good part about it was Wesley Snipes.

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TheAgingHipster
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:47:55 PM

@Ben, that's blasphemy....

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PasteNuggs
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:49:19 PM

I loved how Taco Bell was the only restaurant. How it was all upscale and everything.

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TheAgingHipster
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:56:21 PM

God knows I wouldn't mind a burrito.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:17:26 PM

Wesley may be in prison, but he isn't rotting. He's planning an action/puzzler PSN game with "Julius Styles"

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Lemon_Saint
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:19:14 PM

"Jeffrey Dahmer ... I love that guy!"

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Beamboom
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 2:05:53 AM

Hehe that was a cool movie actually! However not sure if it would stand the test of time if I saw it again now...

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maxpontiac
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 7:51:36 AM

One of my favorite movies of all time. An excellent popcorn movie!!

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Temjin001
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:48:51 PM
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I have no doubt that with enough time and a stable continuation of our economy, we'll have something entirely different then what we use today. Our children's' children will talk about how us old timers used to play games with "game pads and TVs" and how horse and carriage it all seems.

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SayWord
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:55:09 PM

Unfortunatly I have to agree with you. The young generation are growing up with these more casual games and/or motion controls. Unlike us who grew up with game pads, so when they are 20-40 games that we used to play and play now will be totaly different.

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Temjin001
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:05:05 PM

Yea, sometimes I wonder when I look at my shelf of great games that I love this gen, and I realize that probably no one will ever like this same set of games as much as I do in the decades to come and when I die as an old fart their value dies with me. And for whatever reason I'm compelled to play these games today, I can't deceive myself into thinking they'll be somehow more, or just as, significant to other gamers who continue to consume the latest and greatest stuff going into the future.

Confused yet? I think I am lol

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SayWord
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:17:01 PM

There is one exception. : P i want my kids (if they are interested in gaming) to play the games that I grew up playing first. (Same goes for anime)

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FM23
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 4:38:54 PM

Ha...anime!

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TheAgingHipster
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 9:49:21 PM
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As long as it doesn't involve donning some stupid contraption or crazy eyewear to enjoy my game, I'm on board.

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DemonNeno
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:10:04 PM
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Blah.. It's bad enough dealing with flawed progression and new, sophisticated and sensitive tech.. I don't care for much more "advancements". I call it change from what feels fitting to what visionaries consider evolution.

To consider what change may come is a tough question. Perhaps when something more wicked, yet compact becomes mainstream, that change will come. I can see controls built into visual devices becoming a possibility. Like thought tracking glasses..

I can't give in too much thought towards it because I'm getting a headache just thinking about it! Haha.. Ahh, I crack myself up!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:20:27 PM
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I will always be too lazy to get the bulk of my entertainment while standing up, as such I don't see the traditional setting changing much for a while.

Besides, games didn't replace books or movies (though they might have for certain individuals) so maybe new gaming rigs will just be extensions of gaming. Hell I'd love a holodeck, but I couldn't keep up a real live game of Uncharted. I would fall every time.

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Qubex
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 6:47:22 AM

I am with you on that World... far too lazy I am... so far the Move hasn't really moved. I am damned to a soft comfy sofa, to enjoy the games I play.

I just wish I had more time and more money, I guess I will have a huge library to explore in the next 5 years, and i am in no rush... considering within 6 months that some of the best titles fall by 50% in price... it really is best to wait a little and get good deals on older classics...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:35:16 PM
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this article reminded me of the movie surrogates.

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cLoudou
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:59:59 PM

No.....

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matt99
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 10:30:28 AM

That was one of mankinds biggest failures, now lets never mention it again.

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jdt1981
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:41:38 PM
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When they come out with something identical to the Holodeck in Star Trek I'll gladly kiss consoles, controllers and TVs goodbye. Until then though I'll stick with a standard controller cause all these lame motion controllers that are supposed to be a bridge to real virtual reality don't cut it for me.

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Bjorn77
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:55:28 AM

Yes, how often I fantasize about a Holodeck. That would be the one thing that could replace gaming. That would be awesoem.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 10:57:52 PM
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Nothing will ever replace console+controller+tv

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crunchy_nut_kid
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 11:02:47 PM
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technology is doubling every two years(fact).
so its likely we will see large advancemnts in the near future. it would be cool to have virtual technology

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godsman
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 11:07:31 PM
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Well there'll always be a TV, console, and controller in video games.

There's always a TV, otherwise it won't be a "video" game. It's not a board game without a board, or a card game without cards. When we finally come up with a technology that doesn't require a visual display, we'll have a different name for that game.

The input device and console will always exist, no matter if it's a physical controller or motion sensor. Even if Xbox's Kinect is built-in on the TV, an input device is still there, just not visible.

Until there is a new method in playing games, these are still necessary to video gaming.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 11:17:29 PM

I agree

And there just really isn't anything that could replace the default set up.

There just really isn't... lol

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Highlander
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 11:22:48 PM
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Ben, I'm not so sure of that. There are already alternatives to video games such as live action role playing games, but the limitations of one's own physicality and the fact that you simply can't hit another person with a real sword without causing them real harm tends to get in the way of that being an equivalent to a video game.

In our games we can do all sorts of things that we can never do in reality. In reality, I'll never fight a troll king that's four stories tall in the middle of a plain populated by other odd monsters that need to be slain. But I can do that in a game.

Short of a direct cranial interface or star trek technology, the screen controller+system model or something like it is here to stay -IMHO.

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kraygen
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 2:11:07 AM

Nice reference to white knight Chronicles.

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:45:33 AM

Well spotted.

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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 11:23:01 PM
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Controllers have been refined over the past ~30 years and they finally got to a balance between comfort and functionality. I can't see anyone throwing away all of that knowledge and work for something new any time soon. I'm sure controllers will continue to evolve, but but they'll never go away.

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Eld
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 12:26:21 AM
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A lot of people seem to think, or at least want, controller to stay around. While standard controller will be around for quite some time, I imagine there will be more and more games that use it only as alternative if you don't have that other "x" input device.

Ps3 controller is probably the best one out there right now, but it has reached its limit. How much more can be added to it to expand functionality? It's an ancient device that is losing popularity, especially with newcomers to gaming world. Would you rather play a shooter with move or clunky controller? Just look at success of wii.

We may see rapid shift to other input as well as output devices as soon as new generation of consoles, which is right around the corner. This is yet another article that makes me wonder what ps4 will have to offer:)

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 @ 4:44:34 PM

Eld,

Controller's are still evolving.
Case in point, just look at this new HKS Racing Controller for the PS3 that I just picked up.

It's the same size & shape as the dualshock, but it also incorporates a pressure sensitive thumb steering wheel & pressure sensitive brakes pedals

Here's the specs on it...

PRECISION CONTROL STEERING WHEEL
Pressurized racing wheel enables full rotational range for left and right turn control. automatic re-centering racing wheel utilizes center indicator, enabling full tactile control while preserving driver on-road focus.

ANALOG PRESSURE ACCELERATION AND BRAKE PEDALS
Full range pressure sensors allow real world control over gas and brake pedals. absolute control is necessary to execute the advanced heel-toe racing technique for drifting! apply full throttle for and exiting corner turns!

DIGITAL PRESSURE GAUGE
Light up numerical indicator displays your real-time pressure being applied to the accelerator and brake pedals. Dynamic digital readout incrementally displays pressure readout in every millisecond.

Now, this controller does have a bit of a learning curve and so far I've been crashing into qite a few walls because I haven't trained my mind to the completely new & different set-up way of playing with it.
But I can see that once I've got the HKS's working down pat, this will become my one and only "go-to" controller for racing, or at least until I can get a G27(or better) wheel set-up later on.

You can check out the HKS Racing Controller right here....

https://eagl3.com/product/view/hks_racing_controller

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Oyashiro
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 12:42:56 AM
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Sony has this covered with the PS9. ;)

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Gordo
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:10:19 AM
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The moment I'm sold on the new technology is when I'm playing Mass Effect 10 and I'm talking to an alien lady and the conversation options are:

1. Sorry I'm not interested.
2. Really, tell me more?
3. Yes, I will have that full body massage!
4. Exit...

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TheShadow
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 12:02:44 PM

Ill take a number 3.

with some fries on the side

Thank you

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Lawless SXE
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:10:35 AM
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Before I get started or read anything: 'Traditional' is spelt incorrectly in the headline... How did that slip through?

Now, the controller, console, TV set-up that we have now is actually really good, and when you factor in the upcoming NGP it brings to light possibilities for the future in Augmented Reality. Imagine a pair of glasses capable of creating an entirely virtual landscape with which you could interact in real time. Better yet, imagine that with the ability to augment your physicality so that you could feel as though you were traversing hills and whatnot as Nate Drake does.

Or perhaps a mental stimulae device, which gets rid of the need of anything physical, planted directly into one's brain. Picture the Matrix. The current motion sensing devices are a step towards bringing us into our games in a real fashion, but imagine that, combined with the massive hamster spheres they were showing off years ago as a possible step in digital realism.

I don't think that the current set-up will ever be fully replaced, but time will come when things will change. I just hope that said change propels us in a good direction.
Peace.

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___________
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:30:36 AM
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well depends how you define changing traditional gaming methods.
if that means how we play our games than no, but if that means how we get our games then of course.
not for a while, but i wont be surprised to see games go digital only eventually......... then watch them cost exactly the same as they do, if not more than what they do now!
why digital versions of games are the same price or more expensive than retail versions is beyond me.
your getting no disk, no manual, no case, no cover art, but your still paying more?
i thought you were suppose to pay less for less, not more for less!

i guess even how we play our games will change.
TVs are forever evolving, controls are forever evolving.
now we use TVs tomorrow we might be using floating screens, or even holograms, or maybe VR glasses.
that would be pretty cool, removing the need for a TV and only using glasses for your tv!
only thing that really needs to change though, the only thing i really want changed is cars!
we need flying cars....... like NOW!
sydney traffic is starting to drive me freaking insane!!!!!!!
use to take me 20 minutes to drive into the city, yesterday and the day before it took me over a hour!
flying cars would make things so much quicker and easier, or even better just give us those tubes from futurama!
now thats my way of traveling!!!!!

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RadioHeader
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 6:16:22 AM

Flying car? I wouldn't trust you on a bike without stabilisers. I wouldn't trust you on a skateboard without a hand-rail. I wouldn't trust you... More later, need coffee.

I like you really :)

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Sol
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:55:50 AM
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I don't think anything can replace traditional gaming.

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kraygen
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 2:14:38 AM
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Well if the holodeck arrives I'd be willing to exercise enough to actually use it, maybe, maybe not. Well at least I don't have to worry about that now.

Altho with controllers I'll still be able to play even if I have a broken leg, so, looks like the controller wins.

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Ignitus
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 2:29:08 AM
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I have no doubt new things will come and go but I am sure there will always be people, like my self for example, that will find gaming with a standard controller and a big T.V. an irreplaceable experience.
Yeah, Kinect and Move can evolve times a hundred but so will game consoles. IMHO.

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GuyverLT
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 3:24:44 PM

That is a really nice avatar.

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Fane1024
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 2:53:21 AM
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Until virtual reality can provide tactile feedback, it will always feel fake, like you are flailing at air, because that's exactly what you're doing. Gesture-based gaming like Kinect is the same: even if they actually make it precise (unlike Kinect), it's still limited by its experiential "fakeness".

The abstractness of using a controller to provide input actually makes it seem more real, in the same way that cartoony characters can seem more real than nearly perfect recreations due to the "uncanny valley" effect. The responsiveness and precision don't hurt either.

The holodeck produces solid terrain and objects to touch and manipulate. Unless VR can at least trick a person into believing it is touching and holding things, the experience will be less satisfying than a less direct interface (like console, screen, and controller).

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:44:36 AM

I think the point you make about the uncanny valley is a good one. Although we can make graphics that are photo realistic in still form, when the characters move and talk there are so many tiny tell-tale signs that allow us humans to spot the fake that it's impossible for us to interpret the image as real. Where as when the character is less realistic, say a slightly more cartoony, anime style character, we're not distracted by the unreality, and use our imaginations to bring the character off the screen - to life - much like we do with characters when reading a book.

But you know, I think I will always prefer my games to be games and not real enough to be mistaken for reality. With the exception of flight simulation or racing simulation, games do not need to so closely simulate reality.

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A2K78
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 3:15:04 AM
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I love this article and why? Well it demonstrate why the arcades continue to be the leader when it come gameplay innovation and creativy while the console continue to lag behind. I say this because through years there have been many emerging trends in the arcade that gave birth to re-imaging the ways games are play.


"So what's next? Virtual reality?"

VR gaming "already exist"[in the arcades], but in a very limited form thanks in part to the overall cost .

Ever heard the arcade game Kido Senshi Gundam: Senjo no Kizuna? In your case probably not, but the same adopts the very VR technology used in simulators and pushed it another level. Overall shame due to the cost of the machines games like this aren't widely proliferated.


"I'm just wondering when we'll see the first full shift to something else; some new technology that changes the way the majority of gamers get their entertainment."

When? Obviously never due to the fact video game industry have become too obsessed with game budgets that rival a motion picture and playing it safe with sequels. With all that in mind, its until the video game industry go back to its to roots and focus to on gameplay(and stop trying to duplicate everything hollywood does) will we eventually replace the traditional gaming methods. Until then the video game industy as it stands is creatively bankrupt.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 7:32:56 PM

Not that I disagree about the Hollywood thing, per se, but how can you complain about the cost of game production and then hint at the immense cost of some of that "VR" arcade technology in the same post...?

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CHAOS THEORY X
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 4:35:12 AM
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Don't know if anyone has said this yet, but videogames will go the way of being plugged into the Matrix, or like Inception.

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CHAOS THEORY X
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 4:35:24 AM

BTW this was a joke

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 7:42:35 AM
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Ah, why is this site so screwed up now? It is loading and reloading all the avatars as I scroll!

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Gone
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:16:16 AM

Because Egypt shut down the internet.

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 10:53:35 AM

there's some kind of scripting problem - IMHO. If you're using firefox and the noscript add-in block the stuff from 'googleapis' dot com. It messes up the formatting of the weekly poll, but everything else runs better.

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 11:50:10 AM

Update:

This problem seems to have been resolved, you don't need to disable googleapis any more.

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slugga_status
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 8:15:35 AM
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I don't think we'll see anything different any time soon. I'm content with what we have now. Just seems...perfect...

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Gone
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:14:44 AM
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Where is my holodeck? I guess that will be the PS5 technology.

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:40:46 AM

Kirk was more of a Captain than you'll ever be, you conference room junkie!

When you encounter an aggressive alien firing at the ship, you call your senior staff to your ready room, while you're under enemy fire! Kirk raised the shields and ordered the phasers and photon torpedoes to be fired, and then checked with Spock, and ordered Uhura to open hailing frequencies to ask WTH was going on.

;)

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Gone
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:50:02 AM

Ouch. I am going to go to my quarters now and cry. :(

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 10:51:59 AM

LOL! Make it so! Oh, and don't forget the Earl Grey Tea!

I'm just playing, I hope you realize that. The only captain I couldn't take seriously was Scott Bakula on Enterprise. I could even take Janeway seriously, but Enterprise was a trek too far in my mind.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:07:45 PM

Nonsene, Bakula was a nice middle ground between kirk and picard. And the vulcan chick with the rack... o man.

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:12:50 PM

T'Pol? Nah. Seven of Nine? Now we're talking...

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Underdog15
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 3:18:29 PM

Patrick Stewart was the best thing to happen to Star Trek.

Even if you didn't like his character, you gotta admit... he's the best and most accomplished actor that series has ever seen. (I saw him on stage once... OMG he's amazing.)

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Gone
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 4:07:42 PM

@TheHighlander

Yes, I know you are kidding. Trekkie humor.
Kirk was a playboy.

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matt99
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 10:36:15 AM
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I'd settle for the animus, but until then just keep working on better gameplay and original ideas.

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systemdown
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 12:22:28 PM
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I'm not so sure that we will ever get to virtual reality or anything like that in the foreseeable future, but I do think new control schemes are important to gaming in general.

I don't know about anybody else, but I've been getting bored with FPSs these days. Playstation's Move has really breathed new life into the genre for me - makes a meh title like MAG into a must-play game. I'm excited to see how else stuff like the Move will be used to change up the gaming landscape.

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Highlander
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:12:15 PM
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Hmm...I was musing on this over lunchtime. I think that there are inherent limitations on motion controls imposed by the need to support those with disabilities - you can't mandate that games be played while standing when there are wheel-chair bound consumers. Not to mention the inherent limitations of differing levels of fitness and available space, and whether people even want to do it. All the cameras and motion controllers in the world won't fix that, therefore the controller will always be king.

That doesn't mean that other forms of control will have no place or never be significant. I think voice control has a big place in games as a shortcut way to do things. People are probably familiar with voice control in some of the FPS games where you can direct your squad with voice command. However imaging playing an RPG like White Knight Chronicles where you can select what attack or spell or command you want to do next without using the controller to flip through the menu and select, or you can call on the aid of the rest of the party with a voice command.

So I can definitely see an expanded roll for voice command as an enhancement to traditional controls, just as the sixaxis sensors are an enhancement, not a replacement. Augmenting the traditional controller seems to me to be the way to go, instead of replacing that controller.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 @ 4:45:22 AM

I thought giving voice commands in SOCOM was awesome, but I guess no one else did, because it kind of disappeared.

I agree that it could really improve menu-heavy games.


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PAKINIPS
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:41:02 PM
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I like using the move controller for the menu alot more than the dualshock.
Much smoooother

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StangMan80
Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 9:45:19 PM
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It has been that way for ever, it will always be that way. "you need buttons to play a video games" I will always want a controller in my hand, I will never put something on my head to see anything virtual or in 3D. Gaming is with a Controller.. with buttons lol

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PharaohJR
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 @ 3:37:15 AM
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LOL some real funny comments. glad this topic was bought up. a similiar topic like this was posted a couple months back. there a was a comment mentioning the glasses the FBI agent used in HR. i remember playing HR & thinking when i seen the agent use the glasses.... damn what if in 20 years or probably 10 we have technology like this availabe for entertainment...... i liked the idea but also didnt like it.

i like it cause imagine how free everything would be with the interaction but i dont like it cause i like using a controller to initiate virtual actions i dont want to be the controller. thats why im not to into kinect. its like i know hands free cars will come eventually & as kool as it sounds to others it just doesnt fascinate me.

mankind i tell ya we always wanna improve on somebody else creations.

great post though ben.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 @ 5:07:41 PM
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I want "EVERYTHING" to replace my traditional old way of gaming.


I want.......
My future console in a "palm of my hand" size,
Bio-linked retinal scanning,

My console's electronic spores tapping into my adrenal gland,

Holographic movie surround vision,

Telepathically induced personal music






AND "I want that PS9 in my collection NOW, damn it", WAY BEFORE THE YEAR 2078 arrives, because by that time I'll probably have already been resting below ground for a quite spell, as worm food.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbStPjz8Hq0


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