PSXE Poll Update: Fans Ignoring Negative KZ3 Reviews
Although Killzone 3 isn't exactly scoring poorly, a few less-than-elite scores sparked plenty of controversy in the past week.
And after reading them, we wanted to know what you thought: have the reviews that stressed negative aspects of the hotly anticipated shooter affected you? Are you thinking it might not be so great? Well, the answer was clear: regardless of what some sources say, the fans aren't dissuaded; the vast majority say Guerrilla's latest is "obviously an awesome game." You'll see our review soon enough but for the time being, it's interesting to see how people respond to lower-than-expected scores for massively hyped titles. Then there's the ongoing theory that PS3 exclusives seem to be underrated on a frequent basis, and there may or may not be any solid evidence to prove such a theory. But in the end, it's our job to tell you if KZ3 is worthy of your time and money, and we'll try to do exactly that.
This week, thanks to the Sony Ericsson unveiling of the already-known Xperia Play, and the ongoing NGP news coverage, we want to know which of the two interests you more. Or maybe you really want both...or neither. Sony has said they need to differentiate between the two devices; they need consumers to be very clear on the obvious differences. We're wondering if they'll be successful in that, or if someone will easily confuse the Xperia Play for the next PSP... At any rate, what do you think of the two new portable devices? Want 'em?
Tags: kz3, killzone 3, ngp, xperia play, next generation portable
2/13/2011 9:08:55 PM Ben Dutka
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Comments (77 posts)
DazeOfWar
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:10:56 PM
BikerSaint
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:59:25 PM
You can't always count on 7-11 even getting those cups.
FYI, I've been trying to pick up the LBP cups at every 7-11 for over 3 months now & although the giant LBP ad(& KZ3) ads are posted right on all of their Slurpee machines, nobody's seen or heard of the LBP cups as of yet. And the same goes for the KZ3 cups.
GRRRRRRR
BTW, the only cups that they've all had(and still have) are the MMA, A.C. Brotherhood, & the MOH cups, all of which I've already added into my gaming collection.
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:01:11 PM
frylock25
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:33:38 AM
DazeOfWar
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 1:20:05 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 7:46:52 AM
BikerSaint
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:09:33 PM
I forgot when I registered my codes a while back, that they weren't cup art specific, probably cause there was nothing there I wanted yet at that time.
But I still want 7-11 to get on the frigging ball here & bring out those holographic LBP & KZ3 cups just so I add them into my gaming collection.
DazeOfWar
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:15:00 PM
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On the new poll I am definitely exited about the NGP but the phone I could care less about. I recently cut a lot of features off my phone to save money. So a new phone with extra monthly costs is just out of the question for me.
Jawknee
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:40:51 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:09:17 PM
Temjin001
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 1:07:06 AM
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Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 7:22:49 AM
RX78Zero
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:37:02 PM
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I mean Guerrilla put alot of effort into Killzone 3 in a sort amount of time. And story telling isn't their strongest attribute, but from what i've seen they did a very good job.
playSTATION
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:53:57 PM
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Alienange
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 10:55:26 PM
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These so called "negative" reviews certainly need to be taken with a grain of salt, but to ignore is just plain ignorant.
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:04:05 PM
PasteNuggs
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:56:36 PM
Jawknee
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 11:38:45 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:08:04 PM
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After playing the beta a bit I have come to the conclusion that I am angry that the controls have been downconverted to CoD status. So sad. As such I'm gonna wait on it since I'm about to be overloaded with like 4 games. Still a must own, but FPS must always come after RPG.
I want the NGPSP2 but I don't need the phone, screw that thing.
Jawknee
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:48:43 PM
maxpontiac
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 9:01:06 AM
BikerSaint
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:08:07 PM
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I'm liking it, so screw the negative reviewers!!!
Since I've never done online MP mode before, I've been putting all my free time into my very first beta, & I plan on jumping back into KZ3 in as soon as I've done reading this.
So if you see me there, just have a little mercy on this ole 1st time MP beta n00b.
Lord carlos
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:48:01 PM
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But there are a few things i found out that has lowered my buzz for the game like no online co op,sure its got split screen and thats great but i live alone and was looking forward to playing it with my younger brother over the net as well as my friends all over the world.
Another thing it seems is GG is taking away key features that made KZ2 stand out like online in botzone and the ability to spawn on your squad leader making the squad feature basically a private chat function,does anyone remember the uproar when insomniac removed the wepon wheel from resistance 2?....they should never take away from a game but add to it.
I really hope they can add online co op to KZ3 via a patch...hell i'd even pay 10 buck for it as dlc,oh well maybe i'll just have to wait for resistance 3 to get my campaign co op fix! I have no doubt that KZ3 will be a killer game(would of crapped my pants if the game was from was from the helgast point of view,DIE ISA DOGS!)
Lord carlos
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:49:24 PM
packersfan66
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:01:59 AM
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___________
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:58:09 AM
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if GTA IV deserves a 10, than almost every exclusive in this industry does!
just like almost every ps3 exclusive the technological side was there, but the gameplay side, the only side that matters was seriously lacking!
i dunno about anyone else, but playing a game where i do nothing but drive people around bores the sh*t out of me!
only complaint ive really heard about KZ3 is its cheesy story.
its nice to see the level design has opened up allot though, the demo really shocked me, i mean KZ2 is the typical corridor shooter you can go one place and only one place, but in the KZ3 demo it was more or less if you can see it you can visit it.
which is how shooters should be, just common sense tells you if you stay in front of a enemy at all times your not going to last long!
as for the ngp and phone, not really interested in either.
the ngp is going to be seriously expensive, and really only thing that interests me is the pretty graphics, but im not willing to shell out 400+ AUD for it!
as for the phone, my iphone 4 does everything that thing does, and then some!
looks 10 times better too!
ZettaiSeigi
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 1:19:23 AM
FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 1:47:57 AM
Dancemachine55
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:50:07 AM
My iPhone 4 in Australia cost me 250 bucks up front for the 32 GB version on a $50 a month plan with Telstra. To buy an iPhone 4 outright costs about $800 - $900.
If the NGP can be offered outright for less than $500, it'll be a tad expensive but only just worth it for tech lovers and most hardcore gamers.
If there is 3G support available from Telstra or Optus (the two biggest network providers in Australia) for, say, $30 a month for 25GB on a plan with the NGP being $200 AUD or less, then I reckon it could hit it big with serious gamers and gadget lovers.
___________
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 7:26:41 AM
any more then 400 bucks and i cant see anyone buying it, i mean how can a hand held cost more than a 250GB 360?
no one buys phones outright because the telecoms rip you off!
im only paying 40 bucks a month for mine, and that includes 1GB of 3G data, 250 bucks worth of calls/SMS and i get 200 free minutes optus 2 optus monthly.
not bad for 40 bucks a month!
ZettaiSeigi
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 9:12:56 AM
FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 1:54:45 AM
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crunchy_nut_kid
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 2:11:31 AM
Jawknee
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:48:13 PM
kraygen
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 7:50:29 AM
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Most review scores are corrupted, sometimes by money, sometimes by personal agenda. Just don't take them to heart and you should be fine.
Looking Glass
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 10:59:42 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 11:30:00 AM
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I read some of the reviews, some of the complaints didn't seem like "nitpicking", they seemed like legitimate complaints. So either ignore them, or don't.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 5:59:48 PM
CrusaderForever
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:32:00 PM
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jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:37:12 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:43:56 PM
jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:51:14 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 12:55:08 PM
Also, it doesn't surpass me you agree with Alienage because his statement makes absolutely no sense and he has zero evidence back it up.
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jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 1:10:34 PM
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What he posted was crystal clear to me. Would you like it translated? He seems to think that if the score would have reflected something more in line with what you wanted (a high score, jawknee, he used a score of a 9.9 to illustrate his point) then it would have been praised to be the best game ever! Then he goes on to say that the reviews themselves should not be dismissed completely (something that would apply to you, because you accuse these websites of "nitpicking" and purposely give the game a lower score when other games with the same problems score higher) but rather be taken with a grain of salt, because at the end of the day, a review is someone else's opinion.
It baffles me because I actually am agreeing with you, in that I will still purchase the game, most likely thoroughly enjoy the game, and live happily ever after despite the "negative" (8.5 + is hardly negative) reviews. I just don't see the point in why you get upset with a review score if you're going to dismiss it anyway?
jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 2:02:19 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 2:20:56 PM
FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 3:00:10 PM
jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 2:44:39 PM
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FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 3:05:00 PM
No disrespect to you Jawknee, but you tend to think your opinion only matters sometimes. It's okay to disagree, but you came at the man foul for no reason. It's like starting trouble with someone who wasn't looking for it. Like a gang banger trying to fight even though he knows I'm not from any enemy gang around his way. Just sayin...not trying to get smart at all my man.
Jawknee
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 4:00:15 PM
FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:02:16 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 3:04:18 PM
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FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 3:05:43 PM
jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 3:45:11 PM
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FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:00:14 PM
I personally use to follow reviews faithfully back when I got my PS3 in 2007 or 08 (don't remember) and bought what was rated 8.5 or higher. Back then 9 were flying all over the place for big releases, but these days...theres alot of competition and I tend to find most reviews are comparing games to others instead of giving them their fair due. For the most part reviews are accurate even if the score doesn't reflect that. With that said, I can't follow scores anymore, but preference more or less. I read them and see if that game appeal to me and satisfies my gaming needs. From the looks of it, KZ3 won't satisfy my story hunger, but then again...KZ2 didn't either and I loved it.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:03:10 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:07:05 PM
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If nobody speaks up then things will never even approach change towards fairness, and if the speakers are wrong then they have the peace of having expressed their thoughts and the industry can either respond through action or not.
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jimmyhandsome
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 6:39:28 PM
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I was just stating that I find it utterly ridiculous that people actually think if it were on another console it would've gotten a 9 rather than an 8.5. In a market saturated with FPS games, developers need to work harder at differiating themselves, and thats most likely why reviewers "nitpick". And at the end of the day, I'm glad that they do. It could downgrade a "day 1 purchase" to "maybe I'll try before I buy". That was the case with Medal of Honor for me last year, so I'm happy I read those negative reviews. I just don't fully comprehend why people would be fired up about a game getting an 8.5 and not a higher when 1)they will buy the game anyway because of the aforementioned reasons of liking Killzone 2 and liking the beta demo 2)they game hasn't come out yet, 3) they have not played more of the game than the reviewer, and 4) they don't work for Sony or the developer.
FM23
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 7:25:27 PM
Seriously I pay attention to reviews and just like getting playing time on your basketball team, favortism rules the world. Reviews are just a bias as any normal person and thats why professional reviews tend to get knocked for it. Too much subjective opinion in something that deserves objective eyes.
Alot of games receive high ratings that particulary don't deserve it. Red Dead Redemption is a game that pops out to me. I loved RDR, but the amount of praise it got doesn't represent my opinion. I loved the story and the gameplay was satisfying, yet I see it pulling down awards for best action...WTF? Best action...I would put ME2 infront of that and ME2 doesn't even compare to GOWIII's action. Right there...subjective opinion doesn't aways reflect critic viewpoints and this is why most on here (including myself) hate the way bias opinion corrupts professional reviews.
So just like you, I noticed this and just said...Hey, I'm just going to buy what I like. I bought Transformers War for Cybertron last year which pulled down mediocre reviews yet I play this game everyday even though it isn't the main game I play that day. I play it for the MP which is fun as hell and the single player campaign is whatever too me. This is the only game ouside of KZ2 that I actually play MP. This game won no awards nor is it praised by anyone, yet I love this game. Reviews didn't stop me from enjoying this game nor did it affect my decision to purchase this. KZ3 will be no different.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 14, 2011 @ 7:43:43 PM
Many disagree. Your findings aren't gospel truth, just another opinion. It bears no more weight than anybody elses. Everybody counts as one and nobody counts as more than one.
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Excelsior1
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:52:55 PM
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i don't know enough yet, but this kind of reminds me of the reaction on this site to the gt5 scores. kz2 sits pretty high on metacritic, despite it being the whipping boy this gen. so i really don't see where that's coming from.
Excelsior1
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:52:55 PM
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i don't know enough yet, but this kind of reminds me of the reaction on this site to the gt5 scores. kz2 sits pretty high on metacritic, despite it being the whipping boy this gen. so i really don't see where that's coming from.

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NoSmokingBandit
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Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 9:50:35 PM
Meh, DLC always starts me ranting so i'll just stop now.