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Sony Temporarily Shelving PS4 Development?

Considering the situation, we assume this might be interpreted as good news by both gamers and developers.

According to a report on a Japanese website, as translated in the Beyond3D forums, it seems Sony has halted their plans for the next generation of consoles. For now, they're putting it on hold for a couple of reasons: firstly, so the PS3 can remain as relevant as possible for as long as possible, and secondly, because they put a lot of stock in the PSP2, and see the industry shifting in the portable/mobile direction. Apparently, Sony was working on a "PowerPC-based system at IBM Rochester after the Larrabee fallout," but they won't be immediately pursuing that. If any of this is true, game designers and publishers will likely breathe a sigh of relief; the vast majority have gone on record saying they hope the next generation is a ways off. Many have only recently come to terms with the PS3's complex hardware and Sony only recently started to turn a profit on the machine.

Perhaps this report has been sparked by the latter fact: Sony's game division posted a 135% rise in the third quarter, thanks to "significant cost reductions" and "higher unit sales of PS3 software." So maybe they're looking forward to the future as the PS3 continues to bring in much-needed profit.  For our part, we can do without the PS4 for...oh, years.

Tags: ps3, playstation 3, ps4, playstation 4, sony

2/15/2011 9:05:17 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (83 posts)

rogers71
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 9:36:30 PM
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My wallet just buckled under the heavy sigh I let out. I hate to even see articles with PS4 in the title. It is just way too early to even speculate. STOP THE MADNESS.

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:06:03 PM
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hahaha, don't talk about this in another 5 years. PS3 is still growing and developers are just getting in the ball game w/ the PS3.

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:08:48 PM
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I think Sony is going to focus on NGP for a while, which is great. Devs has said how easy it is to port ps3 titles to the NGP, so i hope sony keeps that in mind for the ps4. Give devs a console they wont whine about for the first 3 years and they might be surprised at how well it takes off.

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PasteNuggs
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:22:22 PM
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Great. Maybe now I'll finally invest in a slim. I was kinda worried because I felt the moment I would buy one it would be announced the ps4 is coming.

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Eld
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:24:42 PM
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That's all great until competition announces their next gen console and if they manage to get it out before Sony is ready are we going to be happy waiting 1+ years for xbox ports?

Of course if there is enough interesting software ps3 might repeat success of ps2 at least to some degree no matter what.

And I'm not too happy about all this portable focus, but I guess it will be interesting to see what happens before next gen consoles land. Whenever that happens.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:50:25 PM

If we get stuck with shoddy ports from the Xbox again I'll be so pissed. Can you imagine if their next atrocity uses DVD again?

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Temjin001
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:02:18 PM

hehe I doubt they will World. Devs had a hard enough time as it was this gen squeezing into a DVD. And a new hardware gen has always meant more RAM. ANd if there's over an 8x increase in RAM again for the upcoming gen. Hehe, that'd put onboard RAM at no less than 4GB!!
That's over one full layer of DVD space in one level 0_0
Really, with 4GB's of RAM there can be no other option. Blu-Ray (or some other high density crazy MS proprietary standard) will have to be a no brainer for them.

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godsman
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:36:46 PM

This gen the multiplatform games hover around 8-10 gbs thanks to DVDs. The next generation, it'll definitely go up to 20 gigs. That's not practical for casual gamers to download them online.

Sony cannot afford to let Xbox release early again. Sony has to keep the cell processor to maintain the backward compatibility. I cannot emphasize enough that this gives gamers a smooth transition to upgrade to next gen.

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kraygen
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:04:51 AM

Issue here is that Microsoft has adamantly claimed they are refusing to utilize blu-ray, not now and not ever. This has been their claim, because essentially they would have to pay Sony for the rights.

There only option for next gen is to go digital, which the world isn't quite ready to be downloading 20gb games like godsman said, so they either have to come up with a new type of media equal to or better than blu-ray, good luck, or stick with dvds.

Either way MS can't really afford to jump the gun into the next gen. Unless of course it is a 360 and 1/2 which merely brings it up to the ps3's capabilities and then at least we would stop getting gimped games held back by weaker tech.

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HUSO
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 9:41:07 AM

it's very possible that microsoft might stick to DVDs in their next console as well. i happen to personally know a professor who's working on more efficient compression algorithms and their research is funded by Microsoft. So i have a feeling microsoft doesn't want to pay any royalties for the likes of BluRay

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Underdog15
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 9:58:51 AM

Sony does not own rights to Blu-Ray. This is a known fact.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:50:45 PM
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This move doesn't surprise me by Sony. Though, I will say I don't think I like the idea of transitioning gamers to a mobile platform instead of a new console box, or make the assumption that, because of popular demand, people who like videogames would preference a mobile platform as a primary gaming standard. I, for one, am not that gamer. So you can say my opinion here is self serving, but I don't mind sharing what I know I like. I want a turbo charged high energy experience coming from my large HDTV--and the PS3 does deliver this already very well.

But anyway, on a connected point, I tried the new KZ3 single player demo. Very often during the experience the thought kept running through my head, thinking, "holy crap, how much more of a difference would more technology make?" I feel like I'm engaging in a fully realized intense military attack and there's little to nothing that feels limited or lacking by way of presentation. It's a straight up, in your face, nose in the battlefield, sensory experience of shock and awe. KZ3's graphical presentation is easily on par with GoW3 and Uncharted 2.
So not only does more processing seem that much less significant to me right now, but so many other developers aren't creating games that are even close to being at KZ3's technical level. Few games have extracted and optimized the power under the hood of the PS3 to warrant a hardware upgrade anytime soon by Sony. There's plenty there for devs to optimize.

Now I'm not saying I won't be on board with MS's next console--if it's actually even in the pipeline. I will, and maybe 6 years of hardware evolution will make me eat my words, but I'm not totally convinced of that just yet. It's an interesting market out there right now, and with mind blowing experiences like KZ3, I'm not in any hurry to move to new hardware.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:12:47 PM

Mobile gaming may be the big thing in Japan, but I think us lazy westerners will still like to game on our couches in front of giant televisions for some time to come.

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Alienange
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:57:33 PM
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And what exactly would the PS4 bring to the table in the way of gaming enhancement? A better processor hardly means a thing these days. The PS3 fills our TVs with HD gaming goodness as it is. I say go back to giving us firmware updates with REAL added features and we'll see the PS3 remain relevant for a long long time.

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matt99
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:01:32 PM

Any specific features in mind?

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Temjin001
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:05:04 PM

I have one feature I'll ask for. I want my PS3 to materialize food for me, like that Star Trek thing can. You just log onto the PSN store and order a PSN-Deluxe Burger and Fries and voila! I'd never have to leave the couch.... well, almost.. but I won't go there.

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Alienange
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:14:09 PM

Adding Skype would be one I'd like. A nicer way to view your trophies is another. Then there's the complete disconnect between Home avatars and the xmedia bar you use regularly to get things done. Let's face it, those gamercard avatars suck.

Then there's the ones Sony thought of that I didn't. Like photo viewer and video viewer. Now what about a music player?

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Lord carlos
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:22:13 PM

A hdmi lead that i can plug into my head so i can play RE6 matrix style :)

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Beamboom
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:30:31 PM

A better web browser...! That would help a lot.

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godsman
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:42:29 PM

I would like an increase in processing power. There are many games that I would like in 1080p.

Also I would like more memory in the PS4. The PS3 lags in cross-media bar during gameplay and when accessing the internet browser.

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Ignitus
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:24:46 PM

1080P games finally done right.
3D games done right.
One step closer to gaming photo realism.
A better web browser.

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matt99
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:55:20 PM

Yeah, I think a better web browser would be great, I mean the ps3 is so advanced and yet it doesn't have a decent browser.

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matt99
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 10:59:53 PM
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Well we are in the 5th year of the ps3 and based on the ps2's life cycle it's only natural that questions about the ps4 are being raised. Personally though, I think they can hold off for a few more years.

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godsman
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:44:56 PM

Xbox probably won't release anything new for another 2-3 years. Sony probably preparing the PS4 machine and announcing it at the right moment.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:11:43 PM
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GOOD. No PS4s yet. No PS4s until devs are so sick of retarding their multiplat games that 3rd party exclusives return to Sony.

Draw up all the plans you want, hire a futurist, experiment with intercranial nanobots on Xbot brains, whatever you want, just don't build it for at least 4 more years.

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:46:59 AM

I agree. They can invest in prototypes that aren't mass produced but we really don't need a new gen console yet. I mean really. I sincerely hope that everyone involved in the gaming industry hasn't become twich. If we get a new gmaing console now, whats stopping them from making and releasing a new on 5 years after that?

Seriously, lets settle down put value to what have now. It was only an up hill battle to get here, so lets moved on to the PS4 now (sarcasm).

I am fine with this decision by Sony.

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JDC80
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 12:15:07 PM

I wonder if Devil May Cry remained a Playstation exclusive would we still see a major overhaul of the series?

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:14:13 PM
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The console has so much more to show.

I still remember how ps2 was pushing things with GT4, FFXII, GOWII, and Jak 3.

I wanna see that kind of polish on the ps3 in the next 3 years.

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godsman
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:29:37 PM

I think developers are polishing it already. I never expected Killzone 3 to get 41 gigs of data, and Infamous 2 to push the cell to match Uncharted 2.

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Ignitus
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:34:37 PM

Yes I want the PS3 to show its true power, unleash it now!!

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Lord carlos
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:16:45 PM
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Good
i've spent well over 2 grand on ps3 stuff since march 2007.
I wanna enjoy this Gen for another 5-6 years aleast.


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godsman
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:31:03 PM

I spent just as much. I don't want the Sony to stop releasing games for the PS3 or stop the online service to early.

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gangan19
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:45:11 PM
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I don't see a need for a ps4 at all, ps3 already does the future....we don't need you yet ps4. Your bro still has an enormous amount of hidden potential.

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AshT
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 11:57:37 PM
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Who need PS4 right now, i love my PS3..

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:28:06 AM
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The PS3 still has a ton of potential. 4-5 years from now they will still be games pushing the PS3 limits. They will be a lot better then Infamous 2 and Uncharted 3... yeah, try believing that.

So, Sony will be late to the next generation once again. I can't see Nintendo and the Xbox lasting that long. I wont be surprised if Nintendo and Microsoft get the next generation of gaming started with on the next 2 years.
The PS3 will be competing with the Xbox 720 and the Wii 2 for a couple of years until the PS4 and be kicking there @$$ at it too. wright now the PS2 is the best console to date with over 150 million consoles sold and thousands upon thousands of games and what all it did for gaming. It is. no question about it. One day we will be saying that about the PS3, look at what it did for the gaming community already and It still has a lot more up its sleeves.
The PS3 can last another 4-5 years, easy But it's a different story for the Wii and 360. they need one soon.


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A2K78
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:35:06 AM
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"Xbox probably won't release anything new for another 2-3 years. Sony probably preparing the PS4 machine and announcing it at the right moment."

With the cost of developing a AAA game already exploding to new highs(literally in the range of the typical mid-range blockbuster film) ain't no way will any developer will be prepared for the massive investment the next round consoles will require.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:43:53 PM

The Xbox 720 will be here in 3 years
The Wii 2 will be here with in the next 2 years.
The PS4 most likely will be here in 6 years.


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BigBoss4ever
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:35:54 AM
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i am not remotely interested in a PS4 in any way, more like, i am focusing on what the most awesome games are coming up and when they are going to be released. ie. Dark Souls, The Last Guardian, Uncharted 3 ...

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:58:05 AM
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I think if they let Microsoft strike first again With another new console it will be the same situation the PS3 went through. So just halting the development altogether I don't think is great news. I completely disagree though that the industry is shifting in the portable direction. Sure it's popular and sure most gamers own both a hole console and portable system but, nothing is even close to gaming on a flat screen in your own home! I guess I just don't understand that statement!

But I also don't think the industry as a whole is ready for a new console from either Sony or Microsoft. There's just too much growth year over year to justify moving forward right now!

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LanceNLT
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:59:02 AM
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Oh what a releif! I mean, yes, I just bought my PS3 Slim only about 2 months ago so I'd be devestated to see the next new thing come out that I'd have to save up for. I just got the thing and I know it IS 4 years old now but I absolutely LOVE it! I regret being such a late comer and I have SO much catching up to do. So give me some time to enjoy the PS3 and ITS games before you shove the inevitably more exensive console into its spot. Besides, I feel as hough everyone else who's even had a PS3 since launch day is quite content with it for the time being and then some.

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RX78Zero
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:03:58 AM
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Oh man, the thought of a PlayStation 4 materializing into existence just feels like a revelation; metaphorically speaking.
But what new technology will they be putting into it anyway?

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:14:32 PM

Sony will be giving us new technology with the PS4. There were people saying that 4-5 years ago. Technology will always be improving and new technology will be coming.

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kraygen
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:06:03 AM
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Good deal.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:18:39 AM
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I don't see why they would, except to extend the lifespan of the PS3. Then again, if 2011 is the year of the PS3, then I'm imagining 2013 will be the year of the NGP. When Sony have had their successes with that they'll release the PS4.

Also, I suppose waiting until later to plan, and see what emergent technologies there are gives them a greater chance at making another revolutionary jump in gaming. PS1 - Optical media. PS2 - DVDs, Emotion Engine. PS3 - Blu-ray, Cell-BE. PSP - console-like experiences on the go. NGP - The ultimate portable gaming device. PS4 - ?
Peace.

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Kiryu
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:21:53 AM
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PS3 will be the ultimate gaming system fro the next 10 years!

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Highlander
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:44:45 AM
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Well, I bet part of the issue is the sheer cost of the Power7 based processors. They are ridiculous. Sony may be shelving it for a number of reasons, not least the cost, and waiting for the technology to come down from the mountain tops.

I am wondering though whether this indicates that they have a design, and have it at a point where it can be put on ice to be defrosted quickly later when needed?

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 1:55:29 AM

That could be a possibility. I wouldn't expect Sony to allow a repeat of what the PS3 had to go through with Microsoft's clumsybox release.

I'm sure they have ideas in mind as to where they want to take the PS4 so they could very well have things in place and are now just waiting to see how the each competetor will act.

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 8:36:26 AM

Supposedly they wanted at least 10X the overall PS3 'power' at a bit under $100 initial cost for the CPU(s) (for an initial ~$400 system ?)...maybe what IBM was able to provide for that price point so far wasn't enough of a leap over PS3.

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Simcoe
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 8:42:54 AM

I think this signifies that they've settled on a hardware design/architecture and now find themselves ahead of schedule on hardware development. There is no longer any need to experiment with different processor types or arrangements, they know how they will proceed in the future.

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Mog
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:03:01 AM
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ps4....imagine the graphics....
i cant imagine the graphics getting any better then the ps3, well i thought the same thing with the ps2.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:43:09 PM

yep, tech will always be improving. A article a while back talked about a guy saying that they won't get much better then they are now, I believe they will get as good as watching a movie one day. That might happen once the Devs learn how to use the PS4's power.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:28:07 AM
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I went ahead and read, or at least tried to, the translated quote from Kaz.
Something that stood out to me was going back to inflating dev costs.

"This generation aircraft is in the current harvest, the situation has been eagerly anticipated next-generation consoles is not. There are Gemupaburissha / circumstances of the developer is also at stake. Deferred generation machine now, advances in hardware development cost is bloated title. Thus, even the major studios can not run a large number of title lines of development. Due to rising costs, market failures and costly title."

I'm going to attempt to re-translate this into something more understandable:

"This console generation is currently in harvesting time, and this season has been eagerly anticipated by publishers. Quickly moving on into a new console generation isn't what devs/pubs want right now. Looking at current generation consoles, software titles carry exorbitant expenses. Thus, even the major studios, like EA, can't develop too many titles in tandem. Because of these high development costs, one software failure can be detrimental."

Anyhow, that's what I interpret from it.

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:58:30 AM

I'm in line to agree with this. This also being the reason I don't think Microsoft would release a new console to the market which would consitute Sony not being too worried that they would have to go through the same thing with Microsoft releasing their console first.

MS has lost money on the XBOX project even to this day. They might have massive loads of cash put keep losing money and eventually your vault is going to run on empty.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 10:02:36 AM

ShadowScorpio, years ago the Xbox venture was about to go green with profitability, but the RRoD debacle set them back hundreds of millions, if not billions. I don't know where they're at today. But this much is certain: they have been successful with Kinect and XBOX LIVE.

But Kaz agrees that MS won't make the move to next gen right away either and claimed within this interview, "at a board level" MS is talking about shelving the next Xbox for a while as well. Interesting, but keep in mind there's a lot to intrepret from that quote.

I;m trying to see things from where MS is sitting. XBox LIVE is a major source of profitability for MS and I think it's worth it to them to try and maintain that more hardcore crowd. This year their attempts at doing so is the result of paying out large sums to Activision for CoD map pack exclusivity deals. Will MS reach a point where trying to maintain their hardcore FPS audience not worth the payout expense of keeping them? Time will tell. But this would seem much more the case if they kept their hardware in an underdog position.

This also leads me to wonder, is MS continuing to pack XBox LIVE with so many non-hardcore features to help position themselves into a free-to-play LIVE model? Thus, helping move themselves out of being dependent on the FPS online crowd? The KINECT is drawing in a wider audience and services like NETFLIX prove to be very compelling. Similarly, services like ESPN, Facebook integration, and Last FM are compelling value added services as well.

I can speculate all day. But I think I'll stop.
Though, for my interests, I want MS to make their move by pushing out new hardware. Hardware that attempts to address pub and dev concerns of escalating expenses by releasing new, but powerful, hardware that has a focus in streamlined development expense. Devs like Crytek, and others, have already prepared their middleware software for such an upgrade. The question is whether, or not, MS will decide to play that card. They have all of the financial metrics and market analysis data in front of them and none of us here do, so really, we can only speculate and use reasoning that isn't based on any firm evidence. It's a very complex market out there and I won't pretend to know how everything will play out.

Btw, I like your avatar ;)

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Kevin5
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:48:51 AM
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Forget the PS4, what about the SEGA Dreamcast 2!? Eh? Eh?.....Ok.

I am curious to see what the PS4 specs are & how the design will look but at the same time i am glad it's not due out any time soon.

Although the PS3 is well & truly out of it's womb, i still believe there is plenty of untapped tech stuffed in that black box yet.

I'm curious to see what the price tag will be. I'm expecting nothing less than a wallet straining, bank balance hurting number.

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 8:45:28 AM

If they continued existing plans for the PS4, it wouldn't have been out until 2013 sometime at the earliest. That would be ~6.5-7 years after the PS3 release, which would make sense for an expected 10-year lifespan of the PS3 as you don't want to wait until your sales are possibly expected to fall off to START work on something new. I can see them putting it on hold for maybe up to year to see how the world economy and new chip advancements are going and whatnot, but if they wait longer than that, they'll likely need to be expecting the PS3 to go for a good 12 years or so instead of the initial 10.

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___________
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:55:25 AM
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good!
as much as i want a ps4 the industry, consumers, developers, and the hardware are just not ready yet!
theres allot of prototype chips in production, allot of power PCs, allot of hybrids no one knows where its going to go.
all ill say on the ps4 is sony better put AT LEAST 4GBs of ram in there!
you think crysis 2s big, it could of been 1000 times bigger if consoles had more ram!
i cant understand why sony cheeped out on it, i mean come on computers stopped using 512MBs of ram DECADES ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 8:59:13 AM

One reason consoles have considerably lower amounts of RAM than computers (besides cost) is to force developers to have well-optimized code. Lots of RAM could increase the cost of a console by $50+ alone and be an invitation for bad ports by lazy developers.

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Crabba
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 6:11:23 PM

Yeah I thought the same thing when I first read the specs for the PS3, all that power with so little RAM... very stupid decision by Sony. Even back then RAM was really cheap so there's no way a doubling of RAM would have resulted in another $50 cost (even at consumer level).

1GB of RAM (512+512) would have meant a very small increase in production cost but a huge increase in system power, and would have made life a lot simpler for game developers, and probably a lot less problems with shoddy xbox 360 ports.

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Bloodysilence19
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 3:25:03 AM
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ps3 got another couple years 3-5 years at the most. im sure by next year or so more dev like gg and ng will start coming out and pushing the limits of the ps3 like they do im sure. of course as long as their exclusive to the ps3. only why because to many bad ports still happening. i don't think many dev will take their time and dev a great ps3 version of mulitiplate game, especially number one haters devilvision.
the only way the ps4 could come out early or see a prototype of it if ms release their next gen console say by next year or 2. if you remember at e3 2009 when the kintect was first announced, Sony didn't seem to be expecting that so they showcase the prototype of the ps move regardless of it not being ready.
the only company that needs a new console is Nintendo. the wii is pretty much dead now, it doesn't sell as much anymore. plus they need a console with hd. casual gamers is what they go for mainly but you still need hd console to really say your console is next gen.

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wiiplay
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 4:17:51 AM
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Wow, I'm a little late on the draw, here. :p

Anyways, I have reason to believe that the PS4 is still being released, and soon.

I too am connected to the gaming industry, except, I'm Canadian, not Japanese. :p

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:39:35 PM

It will release... in 5 years!

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FatherSun
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:18:11 AM
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We have been here before regarding the PS4. It will definitely happen but not just yet. I do not think Sony is completely halting development. They may be coasting right now due to the introduction of the NGP but it is only a delay.

This notion may be a red herring altogether. They have no need to even mention the PS4 so why would they make this statement. Maybe they wish to gauge the industry interest at this time. Or maybe they want to see what the competition may be up to. One thing I am sure of is that Sony learned a lot from this current generations battle. They will not make the same mistakes. I also find it strange that this article is circulating at this most sensitive time for Sony. So much going on at once. PS3 momentum is high, NGP, Xperia Play, PSSuite, Crazy exclusives lined up. All this and the hacking debacle. Something is amiss. What are they really up to?

Sony can just create a new version of the PS3 with all the upgraded specs such as RAM, faster processors system upgrades and other tweaks and hopefully defeat the Stolen Key issue in the process somehow without eliminating current users. Its a stretch I know but I hope they can pull it off.

PS4 will come out when its good and ready. Sony is still the industry leader. Regardless of sales numbers.

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RadioHeader
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:49:56 AM
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The PS3 currently outperforms my TV (no 3D) and my Amp (no lossless sound). If anything I need to play catch up with the rest of my stuff. I don't need a PS4 to come along and raise the bar even higher.

As an aside: Music was always my biggest love, and I invested thousands into high end audio equipment. Lately though, I'm seriously considering selling it all in favour of a state-of-the-art, brand new amplifier and simply use the PS3 for Everything! It does 3D, outputs high quality audio(from HDD, meaning no changing records/CDs), plays Blu-Ray, upscales DVD better than any other AND has a web browser!

After 4 years, I'm finally understanding Sony's idea of the ultimate multi-media hub. In short, the PS3 will do me for another ten or twenty years :)

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 8:16:04 AM
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i have mixed feelings about this becuase i don't think sony can afford to let microsoft get the jump on them again. plus, i would love to see new technology. games at 1080p, 60 fps, and tons of rich textures.

the avererage developement cycle between consoles has been 5 yrs, and i feel that's about how it should be. i want a ps4 that can play all my ps3 games, and maybe ps2 games.

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 9:11:14 AM

Supposedly, sticking w/ IBM and Power(PC)/Cell tech would allow PS3 backwards compatibility even if a standard PS3 Cell or derivative were added as a co-processor (and even if there's no RSX or other NVidia GPU). Not sure if you can expect PS2 compatibility, though, if it's going to be total software emulation.

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telly
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 9:09:58 AM
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Great news if true, because honestly, the PS3 is just awesome. Is there anyone out there who isn't thrilled with the quality of games this generation, especially on PS3? If I'm being totally honest, I just don't see any signs of age on PS3. And you just know the best is yet to come. Now that developers are familiar with the hardware the best, most slick, most polished, most amazing games are going to be forthcoming.

And we already have the hardware! (most of us, anyway.) There are no more major expenses for years and years and years. It's a great time to be a gamer. From Sony's perspective, the hardware will just get cheaper and cheaper to make, and development costs for games will at least level out a bit. Profits will soar. Everyone wins. No need to rush onto the next big thing.

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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 10:31:28 AM
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while it is nice to see that they're not pushing for the next generation just quite yet, I sincerely doubt Nintendo and Microsoft are halting their plans for a next generation console. Especially with Nintendo's Wii sales being stagnant recently. I feel like if sony is the 3rd one out to the party again, they'll find themselves in a familiar position of 3rd place in the console race again. But it seems they're ok with that, focusing alot of time/money on the handheld market.

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Gone
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 10:43:48 AM
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Since Sony keeps adding features to the PS3 with updates, there is no need for a PS4 so soon.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:37:49 PM

Yes, But Sony can't completely forget about the PS4.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 11:43:05 AM
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wii sales have dropped, but i saw on cvg the npd chart with wii at#1 for dec. xbox 2. ps3 last. the ps3 was approximately 650,000 units behind too. i was a little discouraged by that becuase gt5 dropped in dec, and i thought that might drive some hardware. the 360 was winning every month prior to that since they dropped the 360 squat. i wish sony would come up with a cheaper sku. we here all know it's value, put to the average consumer a better price point might help close the gap. i just get sick of hearing it's dead last.

sony released a press release saying it was the only one with actual growth in software sales though.

maybe if sony dropped the ps4 it could get back on top.


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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:33:22 PM

The Wii 2 will be the first to be available, I wouldn't be surprised if it's announced this year, I expect it to be on sale next year. The Xbox 720, if they call it that will be here a year or so after. The PS4 will come maybe even 3 years after that Xbox.

GT5 released on November in the USA.

I don't think that chart was very accurate. The PS3 is the only one that has improved sales year over year. The Wii is dropping the most and the 360 is flattening.
The PS3 has the momentum now :P That momentum will last 4-5 years. PS3 will own total world sales sooner then expected.

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Highlander
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 7:58:36 PM

Here's the thing. The Xbox360 squat isn't cheaper than the PS3. The 360 with an HDD is $300, the same as the PS3. The 360 without an HDD is cheaper, and the $300 Kinet bundle is an Xbox360 Arcade system, no HDD.

The biggest thing about the squat is that a) they are supposed to be more reliable and they include Wi-Fi (at last). Feature for feature the PS3 still way out-values the 360. However you have an army of 360 drones with broken or dying 360s ranging from 2-5 years old that are perfectly willing to pay good money to replace a system every other year (or more often than that even). In other words, 360's unit sales look impressive, but the repeat sales are killing the total user base. There is a reason that PSN subscriber numbers flew past XBL numbers. There is a reason why PS3 software sales grew quite healthily last year, and 360/Wii software sales did not.

The 360 squat is cannibalizing 360 sales among owners of older 360s. PS3s are primarily being sold to new consumers, not repeat buyers.

If you don't believe me, do some game site reading around the time Kinect was launched amid a massively expensive marketing campaign by MS. Masses of existing 360 owners with older systems are talking about replacing their older 360 with the new squat unit with Kinect. The numbers are difficult to quantify, but combined with the comparison of growth in software sales and growth in network service subscriptions, the sales of the 360 make sense when you consider replacement purchases - especially in the US market.

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Ignitus
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 12:55:27 PM
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Yes, shelve it for many years please, there is no need for a PS4. My self and my purse will thank Sony for that.
Many great games, so little time and $$$.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:28:20 PM

not for many years. It takes a couple of few years to make a system will all the research and prototypes. Don't shelve it for more then two(2) years Sony.

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Danny007
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:11:39 PM
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Lets all enjoy the PS3 for a few more years, I'm ready to make the commitment to a PS4.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:21:42 PM

oh, I will. I'm going to be buying a second PS3. The PS4 will come at the right time. the PS3 will be on store shelves for a good 7-8 years. The PS4 will be here no less then 5 years. The PS3 can still do so much and people are just now barely realizing the PS3 is worth the entry(It was worth my $600). The PS3 sales will keep climbing and climbing.
I can't see the Wii and 360 lasting until the end od this year. What sop they have? What new things are they giving the consumer? The PS3 is giving us everything. Every family will have a PS3. Microsoft and Nintendo will have I console out with in the next 2 years. The Wii 2 will be out first.

Sony, Just make sure Microsoft doesn't get their hands on you stuff again.

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jdt1981
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 2:21:01 PM
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Apparently this was all a mis-translation according to this article..

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/02/16/update-to-previous-story-regarding-playstation-4/

Some reporter asked Kaz Hirai the silly question of whether we would see the PS4 in 2011 and Kaz's answer was...

"No. We’re not in a rush since the transition would be hard on developers. For now, the focus is on PS3 and NGP."

My guess is since we've heard very little about the PS4 to date I don't think we will see it any time soon. I would say 2013 at the very earliest for a PS4 launch.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 6:24:19 PM

2015 at the earliest. I won't be surprised if it comes late 2016. The PS3 will survive very well and stay in production 3-4 years after the PS4 has been announced. The PS3 still has a lot of muscles that have not been flexed yet. they will still be finding unused muscles 3-4,5 years from now.

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Highlander
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 8:07:03 PM

PS4 will arrive in 2014. 2012 would be 6 years after PS3. However a very prolonged recession has inserted a couple of extremely slow years that have stunted this generation's growth. In addition, the PS3 is still technologically relevant this year and next at least. Sony has a lot on it's plate this year with PlayStation Suite, PlayStation Move and the NGP at the end of 2011/start of 2012. I'd guess that they will want at least a year between the launch of NGP and the arrival of PS4, otherwise they risk splitting gamer's attention between two new units and hurting NGPs sales. So I don't think that the PS4 will even be announced until the end of 2012 at the earliest.

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wakkaoaka
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 7:31:50 PM
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Meh to ps4, ps5's where its at. In my world, the ps5 will generate game worlds where you actually teleport to using real life teleportation technology =} DreamStation

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BIGRED15
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 @ 9:51:00 PM
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imo there is little to no reason that ps4 should even be in discussion right now. ps3 continues to evlove great games are always being made. until game devs start complaining that the ps3 engine is to small to fit their ridiculously advanced game, there should b no problem

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Lairfan
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 5:53:34 PM
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People are so impatient these days. Why would you ask for the PS4 when the PS3 still has so much more it can do? It seems like people get bored with things after a couple minutes of having them nowadays, they need to lengthen their attention spans and realize how much longer they should stick with their PS3.

I only want the PS4 in about 5 more years, after the PS3 is done finding its full power and has made the greatest games it can make. Then we can talk about this PS4. In other words, thank you Sony for shelving it for the time being.

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