Crysis 2 Needed "Every Last Ounce" Of Console Power
Crytek talks a lot about producing a top-tier title that pushes every piece of gaming hardware.
Recently, Crysis 2 executive producer Nathan Camarillo claimed the team is pushing the targeted consoles - PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 - to the maximum limit. In speaking to NowGamer, Camarillo specifically mentions the five-year-old Xbox 360 (he's referring to the game running on the 360) but seems to include the PS3 in his last statement when he refers to "consoles:"
"It’s a very, very powerful engine. It’s sapping power out of a five-year-old console that probably no-one thought was possible. Not only being able to reach this level of visual fidelity, but also doing it in 3D, and do it with these choreographed sandbox areas that are open with intelligent AI running around them at the same time, and scripted stuff going off and explosions, and weapons effects… it’s really tapping into every last ounce of power these consoles have."
We've heard this before and while Crysis 2 does look great, we're not entirely convinced it'll be the best looking PS3 game available. So when he says they're "tapping into every last ounce of power these consoles have," he must be referring to a development process that doesn't quite take advantage of all the PS3's strengths... Naughty Dog and other first-party devs might be able to help 'em out.
At any rate, we do have high hopes for Crytek's hotly anticipated sequel but the studio is only driving the hype through the roof. At this point, anything less than stellar will be a massive disappointment.
Related Game(s): Crysis 2
Tags: crytek, crysis 2, crysis sequel, crysis ps3
2/17/2011 10:29:53 AM Ben Dutka
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Comments (67 posts)
ace_boon_coon
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 4:12:24 PM
big6
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:52:55 AM
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Yes, they want to talk up their product to make a sale, sure...
But, when it's delivered, and we can all obviously see that other games are better looking/performing, what do they have to say to that?
I'm certain whatever Crysis 2 looks and performs like, that Killzone 3 will still be better in both areas. Uncharted 2, being a year and a half older, will still likely look better and perform smoother.
WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:04:03 AM
FM23
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:19:05 PM
kevinater321
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:52:56 PM
Dancemachine55
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 9:59:28 PM
Crysis 2 looks to shine bright on PC, but consoles are still relatively inferior in graphics and processing to modern day PC's, so I really don't see the need to get this on anything BUT PC.
As for the game itself... I'm just hoping the fun factor is higher than that of Uncharted 2. That game had graphics, story and great gameplay. If Crytek can match that in FPS form, than I will forgive their constant boasting.
Temjin001
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:57:04 AM
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First off, maybe it's just the drab area in the game, but KZ3's visuals Crysis 2 is not. Or is it really close for that matter.
Secondly, this game is looking much more interesting to me gameplay wise then I originally imagined.
While watching the video I liked how more methodical and tactical the game's design is compared to the crop of so many other FPS games on the market. Basically, I like the more sandbox design opposed to the more in your face linear high intensity shootouts you'd see from something like CoD and KZ. Not that I don't like that, it's just that there's plenty of "those types" to go around and KZ3 is looking to take take that crown already as it is and I wouldn't want another me-too twitch-fest.
Anyway, I think Crysis 2 is looking like a breath of fresh air for FPS, and barring out really poor reviews I'll be giving Crysis 2 a shot at some point.
WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:04:45 AM
maxpontiac
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:59:12 AM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:01:47 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:03:12 AM
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Maybe they think with their approach they have "maxed out" a system, but the bottom line is anything that maxes out the 360 will fall short of maxing out the PS3. Well, unless their development process is extremely redundant and flawed.
I'm thinking bargain bin for me.
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bigrailer19
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:20:33 AM
ace_boon_coon
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 4:16:05 PM
Underdog15
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:12:33 PM
Lawless SXE
Friday, February 18, 2011 @ 1:40:57 AM
Underdog15
Friday, February 18, 2011 @ 9:39:39 AM
kraygen
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:39:47 AM
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Lets see, one dual layer Blu-ray = 6-10 dvd's, what a bargain they'll be getting. Unless you factor in the new shelf you have to buy to store it.
Dancemachine55
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:11:26 PM
Highlander, perhaps you could help me out with this?
A 360 DVD game can only hold a max of 9GB. But what if that is compressed? Blu-ray isn't compressed so that same game is about 18GB. Sure, no compression means the game might look or sound slightly better on PS3, but only barely, and it also comes down to how well the code is optimised for that specific console.
I'm not arguing that Blu-ray isn't big, because it certainly is, by a long shot!! But I'm thinking with compression techniques in mind, a blu-ray PS3 game may only equal a 3 or 4 disc DVD 360 game, tops.
Anyways, regardless of that, I'm sure Crysis 2 is being optimised using 1 engine that can run well on all machines, meaning once again the PS3 isn't being completely utilised to its full potential and we can all thank the 360 for holding back progression on multiplatform game development including the PS3.
kraygen
Friday, February 18, 2011 @ 1:13:53 AM
Yes a dvd can hold 9GB, but with the piracy issues and ease of pirating dvd's, most 360 games use 1-2 GB for protection coding. Which leaves only 7-8 GB for the game.
You can compress the information on dvd, but the more you compress, the more quality is lost. Meaning a blu-ray can hold over 60GB of uncompressed data and to do the math, it would take 6-10 dvd's to equal that.
somethingrandom
Thursday, February 24, 2011 @ 2:21:26 PM
Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:39:49 AM
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godsman
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:46:38 AM
If i have to choose between Rage and Crysis 2, Rage is on the top of my list then.
Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:49:54 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 12:57:09 PM
As for the graphics, I think most folks just pretend games like Uncharted 2 and KZ3 simply don't exist or they don't know about them so they figure if their game equals exclusive graphics on the 360 then that must be the top of the line everywhere else.
... it like isn't though.
Dancemachine55
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:16:38 PM
With the G4 and IGN awards for best graphics, the nominations were so bias towards 360 or multiplats, it wasn't funny. Seriously? Alan Wake over Heavy Rain? Halo Reach over Killzone? Assassin's Creed 2 over Uncharted 2? What the hell were these people smoking when they wrote that thing?!?!
godsman
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:43:03 AM
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Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:47:38 AM
maxpontiac
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:28:10 PM
Wesleypipes6
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 12:03:07 PM
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Lawless SXE
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 12:12:11 PM
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NazzyQ
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 12:44:11 PM
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There are some extremely talented multiplatform developers out there, and they include the likes of Criterion,Crytek and many others. They tend to be overlooked, because they don't champion a particular platform. If Naughty Dog say they are improving physics or animations or particle effects, we applaud them (and rightly so).Yet, if a multiplatform developer like Crytek says the same, we automatically dismiss their comments, becuase they can't possibly be using all of the PS3s power. That may be right, but talented developers can work around hardware limitations. Its part of their job
The 360 is certainly showing its age, but its not crippling multiplatform development.
WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:01:01 PM
I think LA Noire will be an exception though, that face stuff is definitely a noticeable tech advancement.
Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:04:30 PM
maxpontiac
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:36:03 PM
Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:55:51 PM
Snorge
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:37:51 PM
360 has singlehandley almost destroyed this genearation of gaming. And if you feel like we automatically dismiss them cause they're multiplat, you're wrong...we dismiss them because they are REALLy trying to hype there game up and CLEARLY it doesnt compare to the likes of Killzone, Uncharted or even God of War!
We just want the facts and not some big announcement every 2-3 months about how they're the new multiplat gods. (Well maybe not that far, but you get the point.)
I was actually excited about this game until I saw it in action....maybe its me but it looks nowwhere near as good as the first on the PC running at max! And how long ago was that?
SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 12:58:39 PM
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Underdog15
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 3:24:11 PM
Bloodysilence19
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:24:23 PM
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aaronisbla
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:34:15 PM
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But i also haven't seen anything from Rage that made me go 'holy sh!t, thats awesome!, all ive seen is really good textures and open worldness. Thats great and all, but if its boring, no amount of graphical fidelity will help it
Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 1:53:48 PM
aaronisbla
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 6:34:00 PM
NazzyQ
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:17:08 PM
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Snorge
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:40:52 PM
Underdog15
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 3:31:09 PM
I don't think anyone here is (realistically) disputing that with you. I think the issue people are having is the fact that the Crytek guy is claiming he's maxing out a console that will blow our minds. Certainly, they could make a great quality game, but I think people, including myself, are skeptical that he's somehow creating a game with so much processing power, we'll be blown away.
You know what I mean? No doubt, it could be an amazing game despite limitations. But busting through system limitations into something that "taps every ounce of power our systems have"?
Yeah... not sure that can be done with both 360 AND PS3 at the same time. And that's what people are arguing.
Jawknee
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 3:40:10 PM
We are long past the point where developers projects aren't being released at their full potential and this is a direct result of the 360's short comings. The developers are even saying so. Capcom on more than one occasion complained about 360 limitations only to walk back their statements when the Xbots on Capcom Unity popped their top. Square has admitted the 360 and LIVE hindered their development plans for FFXIII and FFXIV. The devleopers of Rage have also complained(see link below). The list goes on. The 360 has been the reason PS3 owners get screwed(lazy developers deserve their share of the blame too of course, but the 360 and MS has given them incentive to be lazy.)with crappy ports and lack luster games. As far as most multiplat games go, they are just 360 games. While PS3 exclusives really are ahead of the curve. They're in a league of their own.
Now since Crytek has on more than one occasion stated Crysis 2 will be identical on both consoles, that right there should tell you that Crysis 2 WILL NOT have the same level of graphics fidelity as games like Uncharted, Killzone and God of War. If you really think that point is arguable, based on the developers own statements, not mine, than you are the one who is deluding ones self.
http://www.1up.com/news/rage-held-xbox-360-limits
Lord carlos
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:29:59 PM
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BOOM!
I think i'll buy this day one :)
Snorge
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 2:41:56 PM
Wrote
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 3:28:20 PM
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side note... I also dont know much about rage but it does look like a better looking fallout 3 and its published by bethesda so is it like fallout 3 or is there no rpg elements? just all post apocalyptic and first persony?
idk ill get this game in a year when its 20 bucks.
sirbob6
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 5:48:56 PM
Wrote
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 7:52:11 PM
Temjin001
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 5:12:12 PM
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Their motives are clear: they want licensing deals for their engine and they can't do that as effectively when so many multi-plat devs have already settled on and bought into engines like UE3.
Crytek wants to jump start the next gen when a large portion of devs are more receptive to upgrading their IDE's.
They're trying to stimulate developer demand for new hardware. THis is evident when they constantly cite these so-called "old consoles" as to being tapped out and they're ready for more processing.
The CE3 is a scaleable engine. One that can co-develop current gen games and next gen games without too much extra effort. Really, I think when looking at escalating dev expenses their angle and reasoning is a logical one. If a MS/SONY/Nintendo were to make a move into migrating into the next gen, they'll need to placate to publisher expense woes. Having an engine in place to make a smooth, more profitable transition would seem to be in the cards.
Crabba
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 5:52:39 PM
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Crysis 1 was an awesome looking game on PC several years ago, and I'm not even sure the sequel is better looking, or even at the same visual quality as the first one. I'm thinking Crysis 2 will be best played on the PC, unless they've made the PC version worse because of the limitations of the 360 in the new engine...
jdt1981
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 7:11:04 PM
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It's very hard for me to believe that a muti-platform game such as Crysis 2 that the developers swear will look identical on the PS3 and 360 will measure up to PS3 exclusives such as Uncharted 1-3, GOW3 and Killzone 2 & 3.
Lairfan
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 8:24:34 PM
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Judging from what I played of the first game's gameplay and what I've seen so far from this one, it'll probably be mediocre to ok at best, with the only good thing being the strategy. I'm holding out hope that its great, but if they have the mentality of most devs nowadays (keep things the same) it'll probably not be very good.
Also, the story seems to be a rehash of Resistance's story, if the Dead Men Walking story trailer is any indication. Not to say that it won't be good, but it'll probably not have anything unique about it (which is disappointing given the fact that the guy who wrote it kept bragging about how good and unique it would be).
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NoMoreWar
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:55:40 PM
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___________
Friday, February 18, 2011 @ 2:11:01 AM
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theres allot of good looking games out there but there fairly linear and small.
crysis 2 is freaking massive!
the buildings, no skyscrapers are everywhere!
unlike most games if you can see it, you can visit it none of this invisible wall syndrome BS!
i was worried that the transition from jungles to city would make this a corridor shooter, but gladly i could of not been more wrong!
the environments in the game are freaking huge!!!!!!
the comfy chair
Friday, February 18, 2011 @ 3:13:47 PM
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Both consoles equate to low settings though. The PC version should look mind blowing. Crysis today still crushes every other game (shut up, yes it does, even the mighty uncharted 2 gets ass raped by the jaw dropping vistas of crysis. Although Uncharted 2 is a much more fun and interesting game overall and i love it!).
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LanceNLT
Sunday, February 20, 2011 @ 1:51:54 AM
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NoMoreWar
Sunday, February 20, 2011 @ 12:20:33 PM

Crysis 2









kraygen
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 11:36:10 AM