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February NPD: Sales Rise, Black Ops Hits All-Time High

Well, it was bound to happen.

The February NPD results are in and before we even bother with the monthly numbers, we should announce that Call of Duty: Black Ops is now the best-selling video game in US history: the sold number has hit 13.7 million. ...anyway, moving on- after a 5% slip in January, things are looking up after February, when the industry enjoyed a 3% rise to hit $1.36 billion. Hardware was up the most; this category rose 10% to $466.9 million, with the Xbox 360 leading the way at 535,000 units (a February record). The Wii sold 454,000 and while Sony is not in the habit of releasing hardware sales numbers, NPD analyst Anita Frazier confirmed that all three consoles "realized a unit sales increase over last February." So that's something.

As for software, that side fell 8% to $637.4 million. Black Ops was once again atop the list, while Capcom's Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds landed (perhaps surprisingly) in the runner-up slot, followed by the Wii exclusive, Just Dance 2. NBA 2K11 and Dead Space 2 rounded out the top five, and we notice Bulletstorm and Killzone 3 coming in at seven and eight respectively. And here's Sony's statement, from SCEA Sr. Director of Corporate Communications, Patrick Seybold:

"NPD’s February numbers illustrate continued growth of the entire PlayStation 3 ecosystem, including increases in hardware, software and peripheral sales. PlayStation’s exclusive titles, combined with stereoscopic 3D and precision motion controlled gaming, continue to resonate with consumers, and we look forward to furthering the momentum with MotorStorm Apocalypse and SOCOM 4 next month."

Tags: npd, february npd, npd sales, games industry

3/10/2011 8:42:31 PM John Shepard

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Comments (96 posts)

Lairfan
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 9:37:14 PM
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The fact that Killzone 3 is #8 and CoD:BO is #1 isn't surprising, but it still depresses me that such a crap game (CoD) sells so much better than such an excellent game (KZ).

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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 9:39:37 PM

If MW2 sold that many I would understand, but black ops, wtf?

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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 9:38:49 PM
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That is a pretty crazy figure for what is a mediocre game.

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JSwayze
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:23:50 PM

Yeah that game sucks...got bored after 1 day of play

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OPHIDIAN
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 7:22:28 AM

I gave it back after 1 hour of play, too glitchy.

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Temjin001
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 9:40:54 PM
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Personally, I'd like to have seen KZ3 at number one, but it's placement is nothing to sneeze at either.
I also think it's a good point by Sony that their eco-system isn't so clearly polarized into a couple classifications. It's great to see games like Heavy Rain, GoW, LBP, Infamous, GT, and KZ3 draw in solid sales; yet, they're all clearly different experiences. Which is demonstrative of how healthy Sony is when considering the breadth of their offerings. Many eggs in several baskets.

Currently, I'm enjoying Lost Odyssey a lot, and it's too bad that the 360 audience didn't give the game the kind of loving a PS userbase would've more than likely have given it, like Alan Wake.

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PorkChopGamer
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:31:07 PM

That's like the 100th time you've snuck Lost Odyssey into a post. Are you looking for props/ thumbs up because you decided to play a game that's three years old and that any gamer with even the slightest interest in the best genre of gaming would have already owned and finished by now? There. You got one on me. And as far as 360 owners not appreciating it, that may be true but the PS community has overlooked their fair share of gems ,as well. Okami, Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, Demon's Souls etc. etc. etc. and PS3 owners haven't exactly welcomed great titles like Eternal Sonata with open arms, either. Some times great games don't sell, no matter the system. But, hey, this IS the internet, so logic is an enemy and truth is a menace.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:40:16 PM

Actually one day I'd still like to play Lost Odyssey. As soon as a 360 is for sale at the price its worth though.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:10:46 PM

"That's like the 100th time you've snuck Lost Odyssey into a post. Are you looking for props/ thumbs up because you decided to play a game that's three years old and that any gamer with even the slightest interest in the best genre of gaming would have already owned and finished by now?"

No hostility huh?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:49:20 AM

PorkChop: Do you even have a point? What was the point of that? And PS3 owners supported Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles quite well, and same goes for 3D Dot Game Heroes.

Sounds like a desperate attempt to defend the 360 userbase, which doesn't even make any sense, considering all Temjin said was that he liked the game.

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GuyverLT
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 8:10:04 AM

@PorkChopGamer

That was knida an unnecessary post homie. Like seriously I see if he was just down right bashing the 360 but he wasn't so there is no need for you to get so defensive.

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Temjin001
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:12:38 AM

"That's like the 100th time you've snuck Lost Odyssey into a post. "

I have to admit you got me there. I love the game so far so it's first on my mind. But hey, I found a way to work it into the topic, eh?

"Some times great games don't sell, no matter the system."

And I agree, but not in the case of Lost Odyssey. When this game was unveiled it took center stage during an E3 presentation with plenty of hype and exposure. It had notorious FF devs behind the quality game. This should have been enough to have kicked this game up into platinum hits status easily. I have no doubt that if Sony had Mistwalker on their side marketing nearly the same game to a PS crowd it would've been much better received.

So to connect this to mine and Sony's point, something like Bulletstorm sells better on 360 because their eco-system is much more shooter saturated. Or in other words, less balanced in gamer interests compared to Sony's.

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Deleted User
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 9:59:38 PM
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When I clicked onto that link and read the comments from the teenagers with the horrid grammar, I realized that I'm too old for the Internet; it's a young punk's domain. I'm sick of these little boys who comment on the major video game sites.

Most of them also probably play Black Ops.



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Jawknee
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:27:08 PM
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Ugh...Black Ops should be number #8. I recommend Killzone 3 to one of my friends on my list, he said nah because her heard it was just like every other shooter while he was playing Black Ops. O.o

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Qubex
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:43:50 PM

It is a damn shame Killzone 3 is only at number 8. I thought it would have been much higher... what has happened to PlayStation owners? I will help the numbers when I finally get around to purchasing my copy!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:03:51 AM

My only guess is a lot of them were turned off my the controls in the second and didn't get the memo about the revamped controls in 3. Either that or people are losing their minds. Which seems plausible too. ;)

Plus I am sure the biased reviews didn't help. Too many people look at the score and think "8? that's not a good score". Sucks too considering the game should have been a 9 at least.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:34:14 PM
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I find it awkward that Sony doesn't release it's hardware sales numbers. It makes them look like the embarrassed quiet kid in the class. Speak up and let's hear what you've done.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:42:06 PM

Yeah that was strange, last I heard NPD was the one shutting down units sold numbers. And now they do again but without Sony? *Conspiracy mode on*

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Deleted User
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:11:35 AM

Once Sony does that price drop at E3, maybe they will be more open to announce their numbers. Then again, all MS has to look forward to are sales numbers because they have no games other than a Halo remake, Gears Of War 3 and every multi-platform FPS they overpaid to promote to their lemmings. English-speaking video gamers love shooting people and aliens and very little else as well as swearing every second word.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:37:24 PM
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Ouch for KZ3. Just ouch. What is wrong with people?

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PorkChopGamer
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:41:19 PM

I guess if you're going to play a stale FPS, which KZ3 and COD BOTH are, you might as well play the one everyone else is playing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:43:32 PM

Relax your hostility Mr. Power Ranger, if a person is gonna play an FPS they might as well play the one with cutting edge tech versus the one that's basically a 4 year old game reskinned.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:51:21 PM

"I guess if you're going to play a stale FPS, which KZ3 and COD BOTH are, you might as well play the one everyone else is playing."

Says the guy who still plays Dynasty Warriors.

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PorkChopGamer
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:52:15 PM

Cutting edge visuals? Yes. Cutting edge gameplay? Not by a longshot. Pretty doesn't translate into sales. And there's no hostility. Just my honest assessment of why one sells more than the other.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:05:46 PM

People just don't buy as many games as they should. They buy a PS3, they go with the flow, and pick up the shooter that all their friends have.

In a perfect gaming world, there'd be 40 million copies of certain games being sold on day one.

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PorkChopGamer
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:08:23 PM

Yup, Musou is and, more than likely, will always be a guilty pleasure of mine. Not sure why that should in any way impair my judgement of completely different games and genres, but you seem to have a wild hair that it does. How about this? I'll continue to buy/play/finish different types of games and remain diverse and informed and you can continue to make 'intelligent' observations about games you haven't played. Oh and before you say it, uh, 'duurrrrrr' and *facepalm*. If I've missed any other little useful nuggets you repeat ad nauseum, you have my sincerest apologies.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:18:20 PM

Maybe because it's evidence of your abysmal taste in games?

Just a observation. Oh and "That's like the 100th time you've boasted about how diverse you are in a post. Are you looking for props/ thumbs up because you decide to play mediocre and stale games that any gamer with even the slightest interest good games would have already pushed to the way side because of how stale the franchise has become?"

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PorkChopGamer
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:33:53 PM

And yet, somehow, Killzone 3, Black Ops, and Fist of the North Star can coexist in my collection for the time I am in the mood to play either of them. As far as my diversity, that's just a plain fact. No boasting. You think following reviews and owning strictly hyped/9.0 titles makes you a great gamer. I think owning those hyped titles AND owning games that I want to experience myself, reviews be damned, makes me a great gamer. Just a difference of opinion/.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:38:16 PM

Nope, just makes the gamer who spends his money more wisely.

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Qubex
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:46:22 PM

PorkChop... Killzone 3 may not be that innovative, but it is still a great experience I think... and visually you can't fault it. Thank goodness it has both, great visuals and great gameplay...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:50:29 AM

I'm sorry, I must've missed the last FPS that was "innovative."

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RadioHeader
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 5:19:38 AM

Just for the record; Killzone 3 has been a revelation for me. It introduced me to the PS Move (total game changer), but even if it didn't support the Move, it's far from being a stale FPS. Your face is a stale FPS!

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jimmyhandsome
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:02:16 AM

@ Porkchop

Don't waste you're time. You made the unspeakable offense of talking negatively about a PS3 exclusive. You're now considered a "troll" within the PSX community.From now on your opinions don't matter and you will receive an excessive amount of "thumbs down".

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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:31:45 AM

@Jimmy

Last I checked it was a conversation with Jawknee. Not the entire PSXE community. You're the one spouting anti-psxe hate the last couple days. Nevermind the fact that it's completely baseless. In case you didn't notice, PCG started out the convo with lots of histility.

Anyways, I'm ok with PCG thinking KZ3 is stale, but first I'd like him to point me towards an FPS that isn't. Then I'll respect his opinion. Unless of course, he simply doesn't like FPS's. Then it just means he isn't as diverse as he claims... which means all his posting so far is bogus!

So uh... PCG... what IS an innovative FPS?

And Jimmy, got anything constructive to contribute for once? Surely you're more than a mass of opinionated website hate. I mean... heaven fobid people who frequent a Playstation site prefer Playstation exclusives! Imagine that!

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:05:04 AM

Jimmy is smelling more and more like a rotten troll with every comment. Seriosuly, if you dislike this community so much, why so you continue to post?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:22:54 AM

jimmy: Looks to me like the only one causing problems is YOU. All you ever do is whine about how nobody can voice their opinion, when everyone is merely disagreeing and explaining why.

Nobody is flaming anyone, and nobody is being uncivil. Sounds to me like you just want everyone to agree with someone because they're "against the grain" and go, "oh yeah, you're definitely right about that; we're all biased morons."

Knock it off. Either contribute to a discussion or don't post.

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jimmyhandsome
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:07:57 AM

As I've mentioned before I've been coming to your website for over a year now. I recently just opened an account to start posting/discussing on the stories you post. I really enjoy read the editorials and reports from this website. I enjoy reading different people's opinions on different topics and seeking people's advise, especially Underdog and Ben. You both generally are very well spoken (written?) and seem to have a great passion for your hobby. That's cool to me. For the record, I have never posted or had a "username" on any other video game website, so that's something you should feel slightly proud in, Ben. That this is the first time I've wanted to openly discuss/debate with others on a website.

However, in the time I've been posting I can't help but notice that there is an overwhelming amount of anomosity towards people who "go against the grain" in terms of loving and worshipping anything and everything "Playstation". There are a particular few that always seem to pop up when this happens. Now I own an Xbox360 and just love playing games in general. So there are some posts I can over look, but the general amount of fanboy hate that a small few spew out can be quite unbearable. And believe me, I get that its a Playstation website and that obviously people are going to be biased toward the PS3, but sometimes it gets ridiculous.

Jawknee, you in particular are quick to "bash" or insult anyone that would dare speak negatively against a Sony exclusive. You flat out were trying to dismiss porkchop's opinion by trying to backhandly insult him about liking dynasty warriors. And I've seen you do it numerous other times. I'm sorry for lumping the entire PSX community in my post, I certainly didn't mean that. But it seems that the same few regular posters will come to his aid and suddenly its a gang-up sesh on the guy with different opinion.

You're quick to tell people to "knock it off", Ben. But the blatant insults from the people with the "popular opinion" goes unrepremanded. Hardly seems fair. People aren't "merely disagreeing", Jawknee has made it his business to insult, dismiss, and *facepalm* anyone "that goes against the grain". So if thats how its going to be than maybe I will stop posting and visiting your site.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:19:46 AM

"You flat out were trying to dismiss porkchop's opinion by trying to backhandly insult him about liking dynasty warriors."

WRONG! Read his posts again. You are obviously over looking who started with the hostility as you always do. Now once again, if you dislike the community so much, why continue to post? You haven't contribute anything to these threads except constant whining about how others are being uncivil or calling names. I called you a troll because you are acting like a troll. I call like I see it. If you don't like it than too bad. I recall your first post on this site, you started out by calling us "pathetic" if I remember for holding a different opinion than yours. How big of a hypocrite can you be? Shameful, the amount of projection you're throwing onto me and others around here.

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jimmyhandsome
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:30:02 AM

Like I always do? Was he being blunt about how he thinks KZ3 is stale? Yea, he sure was. Was he being "hostile". I didn't think so. You are blinded by your constant need to defend certain things that I don't think you realize what you're saying, dude.

Maybe you should take your own advice and re-read my post and not over look the fact that I listed all the reasons why I ENJOY COMING TO THIS WEBSITE. People like you, actually mostly you are ruining it for me, however. I never said "I hate this place" or whatever else you're swawking about. I enjoy debating with people with different opinions so long as they don't insult or dismiss, which you almost always to do me and others. My problem is the fact that Ben will tell me to "stop spewing hate" but nothing will be said to the people with the popular opinion that throw around insults.

And by calling me a troll, you're only proving me right about the insults.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:42:04 AM

Maybe not "hate" but a whole lot of whining. What ever you say though hypocrite. You come around here, start off your debut by calling some of us "pathetic" and "weird" for holding a certain opinion and you expect things to be civil form there on out? Who doesn't know what who is saying?

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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:22:44 PM

@Jawk

I was paging through some other threads re-reading some articles and looking throuhg past posts, etc. And with the exception of the 3 times or so I read Jimmy upset at the apparent bias he perceived, he does have some good insights.

So I wouldn't consider him "trolling" so much. IMO, despite having differing opinions from him on some things, he is the kind of poster you would want on this site. And I'm not just saying that because he complimented me. :p Just in comparison to others, just by his one response on this thread alone, you have to admit he at least responds intelligently to what we actually say, and he even took back the generalization! Something a few unmentionables would never do. :s And we wish they would! My suggestion is to let this topic drop and start fresh! I'm sure you can think of at least 1 member on this site you didn't initially get along with that now you get along with just fine, right? ;)

@Jimmy

I'm of the thought that if you want to put down a PS3 exclusive on a PS3 site, that's fine to express opinion and all, but it's wise to be extremely tactful in how you do it, since, unsurprisingly, fans will be quick to defend their title with equal or greater bluntness. PCG probably could have used more tact. I certainly wouldn't go onto an XBOX site and try to claim bluntly that Gears or Halo isn't as good as other games. lol (Both I think are good, actually, but just painting a picture.)

I dunno... If you go to a Playstation site, and put down something Playstation, fine, but you need to be prepared to be ganged up on. The people who are indifferent won't say anything. Only the people who feel strongly will. And that's why it can feel like it's "the whole community". Nobody ever replies forcefully with a "I THINK THAT GAME IS PRETTY OK, YEAH!" lol

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:34:48 PM

Fair enough Underdog. Not every post he has made has been "trollish". Just his very first comment and the few in the last few threads. I retract my "he's a troll" statements and replace them with "he has exhibited trollish behavior."

It's fine if he wants to express his opinion and not everything he says is wrong, offensive or whatever but if he's going to start out by calling people "pathetic" and "weird" then cries about the lack of civility, I find that tremendously hypocritical and there is nothing that bothers me more than a hypocrite.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:35:52 PM

Okay, everyone calm down.

Jawknee, I don't consider Jimmy a troll, although you're right in saying he didn't start out on the right foot. So just lay off him for a while; we'll see how that works.

jimmy, I know what you're saying. But you have to remember something- this is a PlayStation-oriented site. If you'd like, feel free to head over to a Microsoft-oriented website, and watch what happens if you call Halo a "stale shooter" (as PorkChop called KZ3 here). Go right ahead. And after all the flaming, personal abuse, and a half-dozen death threats in your mailbox, you'll realize people treat everyone with a lot more respect than normal around here.

I have no problem with you. I do, however, have a problem with people making the accusation that nobody is allowed to voice different opinions at PSXE, because that's entirely untrue. Nobody ever gets flamed for that, and there are always agreeable, civilized debates amongst members. Hardly everyone agrees all the time.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 1:23:55 PM

One word: WINNING!

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jimmyhandsome
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 2:07:39 PM

@ Underdog

Thank you for at least understanding where I'm coming from! I think sometimes people that post on this website can be ridiculous (that _______ fellow comes to mind) and I automatically can be lumped into that pile, which is very unfortunate. And I understand completely about the fact that this is a Playstation only website and I should expect that kind of reaction.

You also make a very valid argument about the indifferent people not commenting. Thats something I should've thought off as I used to do the same thing before I opened an account and started posting. The ironic thing is I'm currently b***s deep in Killzone 3's multiplayer after beating the SP twice, so it's a game that I thoroughly enjoy. I just have such a hard time watching people get torn to shreds because their opinions differ. I honestly think its a vicious cycle, I know its part of the reason why I come across as arugmentive, because I'm expecting that type of response out of Jawknee and/or others.

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jimmyhandsome
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 2:18:15 PM

@ Ben, fair enough. Like I said I retracted my "PSX community" statement. I unfairly lumped everyone together, which was a result of the past few threads I've read. As Underdog pointed out this is probably a result of people with lesser opinions on the topic avoiding posting altogether. Like I said I have been a reader of your website far longer than a poster so I'm sorry if my "debut" got me off on the wrong foot with some of you. I still believe that there isn't much of a reason to think that KZ3 was the victim of "bias and BS review scores" but I don't feel like getting into that. I love the game, I personally would've graded it a 9 or higher, but hey thats just my opinion.

I'm willing to put the whole topic at hand behind me and not hold any hard feelings.

Peace

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jimmyhandsome
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 2:28:35 PM

And Jawknee,

I feel as though you think that I'm a "troll" because you're quick to go on the attack with anything I post that you don't agree with. You simply don't comment on my other posts that you agree with. You either don't notice them or don't care to comment. Its ironic that you consider me a troll when you are drawn to arguments yourself. You def contribute to the community in other ways, but you are always the first one out there to throw around an insult or dismiss someone else who you don't agree with.

But like I said I have no problem moving on from any of this. If you do, then so be it.

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 2:40:57 PM

The internet.. the drama..

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 3:20:45 PM

Jimmy, I only took issue with your comments that seemed "trollish". As I said, I retract calling you a troll. My apologies. My issue wasn't that we have disagreements. Disagreement is fine and it can be fun. I took issue with you calling some of us "pathetic" and "weird" right out of the gate. Why would you expect civil discourse from there on out when you, yourself kicked off your comments by being uncivil? Had you not done that, then proceeded to lecture me about civility, these conversations wouldn't have ended up where they did.

In the case of others that will remain unnamed, they have a history not of simply disagreeing but being disagreeable for the sole purpose of stirring up controversy and hostility. That is the reason I may seem brash when responding to them. These people don't get "torn into shreds" simply for having a different opinion. It's the way they arrogantly go about it. As a long time member here, I have learned who these people are and it's almost always predictable at this point. Disagreeing is fine. Being disagreeable is what I take issue with.

Anyhoo, I also have no problem moving away from this. Water under the bridge as far as I am concerned. :)

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just2skillf00l
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 10:59:28 PM
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Crazy numbers there? Congrats Treyarch, congrats. Now if we could get an updated game engine for your next title, that would be extremely appreciated! Oh yeah, and more stable multiplayer action too! You know while I'm at it a different take on guns as well like futuristic elements or something new to counterbalance the same ol' from year to year. But don't mind me though cuz I'm just a naive little fan.

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booze925
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:01:29 PM
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what makes a great fps is the fps with the biggest fun factor. from what ive gathered, call of duty is a much for FUN game than killzone. not BETTER than killzone, but just more FUN. another thing goin 4 call of duty is the fact that it is fun for casual and hardcore gamers alike. killzone is NOT fun for casual gamers.
while killzone may be a higher quality product, call of duty is just pure good fun for friends to have together. ive begun to realise this as im discovering more and more people i know in real life actually HAVE have ps3's, and CoD is just a good time for all of us.


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Jawknee
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:06:21 PM

Too each his own I guess. I haven't found any replay value in a Call of Duty game since Modern Warfare 1. Really, how many times can you hit Prestige before the game gets completely boring? Killzone 2, I can agree with you. There was such a learning curve to that game it makes sense why a lot of people were turned off by it but 3? I don't get it. It's the most fun I have had with a FPS since Modern Warfare 1 while Black Ops is the same game as that last three Call of Duty's with worse graphics.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:13:03 PM

If what you say is true, Duke is gonna be the best FPS ever.

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LanceNLT
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:30:06 PM
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This is a mistake, NPD has only been tracking games since the late 90's, so I believe Super Mario Bros. 3 is the best-selling standalone game in the U.S. I'm very disappointed that Call of Duty has this title... I won't bash the games since I haven't actually played any of them extensively. But I will say I haven't played any of them extensively because when I do try to play them I get bored very quickly with the drab and dull colored environments, the generic and uninteresting characters, and the emphasis on technical prowess over any kind of creative or artistic depth. Plus, the blood really disgusts me. I know the top-sellers list would look very different for Japan with games with creatively and colofully stylized visuals, memorable and interesting characters, (usually) engaging stories, and deep and engrossing and rewarding gameplay like Dragon Quest, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, MOTHER (EarthBound) and possibly The Legend of Zelda. THOSE are my favorites. I think I will move to Japan after all...

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A2K78
Thursday, March 10, 2011 @ 11:49:14 PM
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Look to me like people are out spending their income tax checks.

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___________
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 1:25:22 AM
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not surprising.
never ceases to amaze me how sheep like humans are!
throw a steak off a cliff, and half the flock will chase it down!
you ask everyone why they bought BO and 99% will say because my friends did.
this is why developers are in the mindset that your game has to have MP otherwise it wont sell well.
because, well, its kinda true!

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Highlander
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 2:04:11 AM
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Screw all the petty differences and arguments. Japan has been hit by a 8.9 magnitude Earthquake and there are Tsunami waves sweeping the coast. Waves upto 10 meters (30+ feet) have been reported, and the TV coverage has been humbling. People are dying. My thoughts and prayers are with Japan and the nations of the pacific rim. If you're reading this and in that area, there are Tsumani on the way, if you're near the coast, check your local media for warnings.

Suddenly, the games don't matter so much.

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Mog
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:34:03 AM

Woah you are right. On the news it just happened, apparently now Australia and New Zealand are in possible danger. Thats me, NOOO, though I dont think it will be as strong as when it first hit Japan.......how very unfortunate indeed.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 8:45:47 AM

Tsunami Alertfor New Zealand, the Philippines, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Hawaii, and others. Waves expected over the next few hours, caused by 8.9 earthquake in Japan.
- Google Home Page

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Deleted User
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:15:14 AM

We had a 5.0 earthquake here in Ottawa in June 2010 and it scared the hell out of me. I feel so sad for those people in Japan. You never want to ever experience the wrath of an earthquake no matter how powerful it is. My thoughts go to the people there today.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:23:59 AM

Indeed. I experienced my first and only Earthquake while at work in Irvine Ca. Was a some what weird and frightening sensation. It was minor. No damage, just scary. Those poor people in Japan. :(

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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:29:37 PM

I've never experienced an earthquake. I've only seen hurricanes and tropical storms when I lived in Atlantic Canada. Canadian news was kind enough to keep updates on any Canadian citizens involved. Apparently, the government reports over 12k Canadians are in Japan right now.

Terrible. :( Hope emergency crews stay safe too. Prayers for the Japanese.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 1:52:07 PM

My prayers also go out to the people that live in the far east. I have relatives, friends and a couple of girlfriends there. Stay safe my Asian people.

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Mog
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:11:56 PM

magnitude of 8.9
the biggest that has hit Japan
the 7th biggest that has been recorded
Alerts for some surrounding countries have been downgraded except for California and New Zealand.
Death total at 300, expecting to rise to about 1000.



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Lairfan
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:55:21 PM

My prayers go out to the Japanese. They're such nice people (I've vacationed there a couple times before, and I've made many friends over there), and they really don't deserve something so horrid as this.

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kraygen
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 3:00:58 AM
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I just played the black ops demo the other night and I'm sorry, but their must be a lot of people still playing on SD tv's because that game has the worst graphics I have played on ps3.

The snow just looked like a white blanket and the scope on my gun looked more like a pipe bomb. So I guess all those black ops fans need to save up some money and get an HD tv so they can realize that game has worse graphics than a lot of ps2 games. At least the demo version does.

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_valdips3_
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:00:32 AM
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killzone 3 as release in the final week of the month, so 8 place is very good for a exclusive, is GT5 all over again that come out in the last week of november and people saying that as doomed to fail, it seens that the 7k of units shipped proven the contrary, lets wait the final figure.

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Wissam
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:20:38 AM
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Black ops looks like a freaking PS2 game in HD.
Its really sad it sold this much.

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D1g1tal5torm
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:34:22 AM
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I like Black ops, It's the map design that makes these games incude into that a massive userbase and it sells.

Why berate someone for playing a game they enjoy?

What is it with the mentality of you RPGrs?

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Mog
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 5:22:53 AM

Making a generalisation there?
I am a hardcore RPG fan but I enjoy COD, ONLY when it is with friends.
For your first question, I'm on your side. People should not berate those that play COD. As for your second question.....I still dont get it. What mentality? Is it the mentality where people dislike COD and its followers? Well, speaking on behalf of myself, its not the game I dislike, its the people that play it. This is based on personal experience, i can recite countless times where i have recieved messages that contains death threats and swears used in ways i even didnt know about. That sucked the fun of the game for me and as i said earlier, i now only enjoy it with friends.

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D1g1tal5torm
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 5:50:44 AM

I must admit it is a generalisation.

However the readership here skews towards RPGs, JRPGs at that.

Historically, anyone who plays and, god forbid, actually enjoys COD seems to get bashed.

A fair proportion dont get get why COD in some gamers eyes is an enjoyable game to play.


Missed the your last point...

...the only reason you get snide remarks being send through is, generally speaking, because they've lost and if that's the case, take it as a badge of honour.


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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:43:35 AM

@Digital Storm

You're continuing on generalizations. I'm one of the RPG/jRPG faithful. It's unusual how many here enjoy those games, but with the exception of 1 or 2 members, people don't make a habit of bashing CoD. The editor doesn't. He likes CoD. Ben gave the last 2 entries great reviews!

I, for one, simply find it annoying for CoD players to ONLY play that and not branch out a bit. I've got no issue with people enjoying it, but from a production valued standpoint, it doesn't measure up to many other titles. NOTE: FROM A PRODUCTION STANDPOINT! lol before I'm misunderstood.

I, personally, believe that CoD is a fun experience, particularly with friends. I've platinumed MW2 and Black Ops now, and I even remember way back when, playing the original CoD and loving it!

I think your problem is that people here are able to recognize when another FPS is a better designed game than CoD. Only 1 or 2 people actually all-out bash it. And so what if they do? It's equally annoying to know that CoD could be better than it is, but won't get better because people are happy with the problems.

I for one am sick of the online problems I encounter, and now I prefer KZ3. But I've never been "CoD sux dood!"

So this, "RPG'ers hate CoD" nonsense is a little strange. I think you're just of that opinioin because the VERY few that do hate on it, say so. No one ever comes onto a site to argue with you or shout and say "YEAH! I THINK COD IS PRETTY OK!" lol you know?

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Excelsior1
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 6:22:05 AM
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so sony is in last place again. my, how the mighty have fallen, that's all i can say. they can spin it anyway they want, but the numbers don't lie, kz3 at 8 is dissapointing, too. i did my part by picking up kz3.



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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:30:29 AM

8 isn't that bad considering it released on the 22nd in the shortest month of the year. I really think you're worrying more than you should be. The PS3 is doing just fine. It doesn't need to be in first or second place as long as it is seeing steady sales and profitability which it is. So no need to worry. :)

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 8:51:35 AM
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Black Ops visually looks horrible. Its just so horrible that I just cant stand in front of my TV and play the game. I wish developers stop thinking if their game wasnt anything like black ops, it wouldnt sell... This is why I like Rockstar so much, I like their games and most importantly their humour. Every single game ive played by Rockstar I just love. I like how they dont make their games anything like CoD.

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FatherSun
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:01:02 AM
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1. Killzone 3 went on sale on 2/22/2011. Febuary has 28 days in the month allowing only 6 days for sales numbers. Coming into the charts in 8th place is an accomplishment Not a failure.

2. Killzone 3 is a Playstation Exclusive while other FPSs are multi-platform. That is not a fair playing ground.

3. Killzone 3 requires just a little more skill to play and does not cater to the instant gratification dependent types that support other FPSs. This entry is much more accessible but who would know this unless they actually played the game. KZ2 scared them off.

4. The negative review conspiracy has accomplished its goal. Whether we like it or not Metacritic scores affect game sales. Personally I think that Meta should limit or control who can submit reviews. When I read some of them it is absolutely clear to me that most are biased and just pick and choose between consoles or specific titles. This is an outrage.

Killzone 3 is a satisfying game. I do not regret my purchase whatsoever.

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Excelsior1
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:35:52 AM

i agree killzone 3 is an excellent game.

the playstation brand is just down in na. i don't want it to be true, but it is. look at gt5 na sales. gt3 7.15. gt5 1.5. the 360 has been outselling the ps3 almost 2:1 recently. i wish something could be done about it. sony has lost a lot of hardcore gamers.

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Deleted User
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:05:32 AM

@Excelsior1

Yeah, I'm going to agree with somebody with crappy grammar skills like yourself.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:27:13 AM

Don't buy the hype Excelsior. If the PS3 was doing so bad, they wouldn't be catching up to MS. the last hardware numbers Sony released put them at 48 million vs MS 50 million. It's only a matter of time. You have to keep in mind the US isn't the only gaming market.

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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:29:28 AM

@Brighat
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@Excelsior1

You're absolutely right about NA being Microsoft territory. It is too bad GT5 didn't sell as well, but also remember that GT3 sales are over a couple years, and not just 5 months. Grandted, a majority of sales typically occur shortly after release.

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FatherSun
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:53:04 AM

There is more to the world than North America? I didn't know that!

sarcasm

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:58:59 AM

Um...our comments were directed at Excelsior, Fathasun...0.o

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FatherSun
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:02:24 PM

@Jawknee, I know. Mine was directed at those who think otherwise. ;)

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:16:50 PM

Gotcha. ;)

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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:32:36 PM

I'm quite aware there is more to international sales figures than North America.

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Scarecrow
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:02:31 AM
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The majority of American gamers are a disgrace.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:11:27 AM

Dude, seriously, knock it off with your cheap shots at America. It's getting old. If you hate this place so much, move.

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Excelsior1
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:01:32 PM
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i'm not buying into the hype. it's just the cold hard numbers here in na that i was citing. i've been hearing for years now that the ps3 is going to overtake the 360 yet here we are still talking about it. sony's poor performence in na is why it's taking so long.

sometiimes, when i look at the sales i just think how did it come to this? the percentage of market share sony has lost is just massive.

listen, i love my ps3 and i will be the first to cheer if the ps3 overtakes the 360. i just wish things were different.

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FatherSun
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:11:28 PM

The US may never be overtaken by the PS3. That is just something we may need to get over. 360 is entrenched. There are too many factors as to why but that is another discussion altogether. Lets have that discussion in a few more years.

Sony has made the sprint/marathon analogy almost since day 1. They stick by it and I am sticking by them. If they did not provide quality then I would not support them.

This console war madness is fueled by fanboyism. The only reason I would have worried is if the PS3 did not sell enough to provide a viable platform for developer support. We have passed that point a long time ago. Totals sales is no longer a priority. Its nice but not a necessity.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 12:15:33 PM

@Excelsior1

No one predicted the PS3 would overtake the 360 before 2010, 2011. People can be wrong. Like I said, with the install base of the PS3 being at 48 million vs the 360's 50 million, and the 360 had a full years head start, it's only a matter of time.

I don't see how you can say they "lost massive market share" with an install base of 48 million. 2 million isn't massive when compared to the over all numbers. The PS3 is doing just fine. :)

Sony made some mistakes in the beginning. Launching the console at a whopping $600 even forced a loyalist like myself to pause and think about how much money that was for a game console. But they have largely been able to turn that negative debut around. It wasn't until the price drop that sales really started to take off and that was only 2 years ago if I recall correctly? Sony is concerned with profitability more than beating MS in over all consoles sold. I think that's a good strategy and as long as they keep selling, they won't need to over take MS in over all install base. The PS3 was obviously built to last and we will see it continue to grow over the coming years much like the PS2.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I just think you're worrying too much.

@Fathasun, Agreed. :)

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Excelsior1
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 4:47:11 PM

sony had over 70% of the console market last gen. now it's in tthe mid 20's. that's what i meant. the $600 price tag and some poorly handled multiplats helped drive a lot of negativity.

sony did bring the ps3 back from the brink, but now the 360 is entrenched. i accept that, but that doesn't mean i'm happy about it.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 5:31:41 PM

Gotta remember to though, last gen Nintendo was in last place. No one anticipated they would do as well as they are this gen. They take up a whole of that lost market share. Plus there is a lot more consoles sold this gen than last gen so Sony losing some ground isn't much of a surprise to me. I do agree with your sentiments though and I too am not happy about it.

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Danny007
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 2:12:45 PM
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I'm sorry, but Black Ops is so undeserving of the title of most sold games in US history. I just wish that a game like Uncharted or Heavy Rain was the most sold in the US. Those are games that people should be truly enjoying.

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Snaaaake
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 5:49:36 PM
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Activision seems to has the best marketing team in the world. They know their stuff.

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Deleted User
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:31:28 PM
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Pachter said the PS3 sold 403,000 units in February.

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Excelsior1
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:50:41 AM
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nintendo really went after a different market, though. a strategy that has worked well for them, but i'm not so sure that the wii has really cut into ps3 sales. you are correct that it was a factor in the % of lost market share, but so is the rise of 360.

what really drives me nuts is all the hardcore gamers that think the 360 is best machine out there. blu ray? don't need that. overrated, the 360 upscales everything 1080p. ps3 exclusives. never heard of them. uncharted, what's that? i guess i got to keep in mind that not everyone surfs gaming sites, but come on.

thanks guys for your comments. they made me feel a little better. 403,000 units is nothing to scoff at.

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