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Crytek Tries To Explain State Of PS3 Demo For Crysis 2

Okay, we aren't about to attempt an interpretation. We'll let you guys try.

So it seems very clear that Crytek is hell-bent on not only promoting Crysis 2 but also proving that the PlayStation 3 version is not graphically inferior. Despite this, several sources - and gamers - are saying the multiplayer demo that just recently arrived on the PSN doesn't pass muster. One Crytek developer addressed this, but we're not entirely sure what he means.

In this recent interview, there are two sections that have generated plenty of discussion. Firstly, something about a previous demo on the 360:

"...it was due to the timing of the certification. We did a previous 360 demo, but there was some issues with it. This is actually a patch, effectively on the previous 360 demo."

As for the PS3 version, he talks about it being based on a code "prior to submission:"

"PS3 version was the version that was set up… effectively, the PS3 demo is based on the code just prior to submission. Whereas the 360 demo is based on the code that we’ve used for the first demo. So, it’s complicated and messy but essentially it’s all due to when things were entering certification."

Forgive us, but this sounds a bit like backtracking. We could be wrong. But we'll find out soon enough when Crysis 2 lands on our doorstep next week.

And by the way, check this out.

Related Game(s): Crysis 2

Tags: crytek, crysis 2, crysis 2 ps3, crysis 2 demo

3/17/2011 9:52:26 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (85 posts)

Highlander
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:07:57 PM
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Sounds like he's saying we submitted the demos for certification based on version 0.9 (totally made up revision number for the sake of illustrating the point). The 360 version passed certification first and went out. We noticed some bugs and fixed them, subsequently releasing version 0.95. Meanwhile the PS3 version (0.9) passed it's certification and became available - and includes the unfixed bugs. Oopsie!

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:08:07 PM
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Give it up Crytek. You blew it.

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Qubex
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 2:50:41 AM

Its quite a crap demo from what I have seen and played of it...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:38:40 AM

Yeah, it's funny how they have been caught with their pants down after all this, "were gonna create the best looking console fps" nonsense.

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 9:00:50 AM

Indeed they did. When are developers going to realize that the majority of PS3 owners/players over the age of 19?

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Beamboom
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 6:46:53 PM

Oh well... I'd say buggy/unrefined code in the demos are more the rule than the exception. Crytek hasn't blown anything... Yet.

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PasteNuggs
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:09:42 PM
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Honestly, I just wish they would shut up. When the game comes out we will all see if they are full of themselves or not.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:13:08 PM
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Confusious say.....

Snake oil salesmen speak in forked tongue

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Deleted User
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:20:56 PM
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The war of words between Crytek and IGN over the "inferior" PS3 version features two sides I don't care for. I don't care for Crytek's games and IGN has sucked the big one for years.

Who cares?

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:22:58 PM
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Any game using CryEngine NEEDS to be played on PC. Period.

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DeusExMachina
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 5:55:06 AM

Any game using cryengine should be stayed away from, everyone knows crytek sucks at programing, both far cry and crysis took a year or 2 (i think it was 2-3 years for crysis) to actually run 60fps on the highest settings, consumers just didnt have the tech when the game came out, and I still think the visuals/perfomance ratio for both games are way off. Now they wanna program for multiple platforms all i can say is gud luck

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DeusExMachina
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 5:55:15 AM

Any game using cryengine should be stayed away from, everyone knows crytek sucks at programing, both far cry and crysis took a year or 2 (i think it was 2-3 years for crysis) to actually run 60fps on the highest settings, consumers just didnt have the tech when the game came out, and I still think the visuals/perfomance ratio for both games are way off. Now they wanna program for multiple platforms all i can say is gud luck

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The X Factor 9
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:26:27 PM
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This would be a terrible shame if Crytek ends up botching their PS3 version of Crysis 2. As you can imagine, PC gamers are up in arms about the "bastardization" of their beloved Crysis. Gone is the open world, replaced with levels with "multiple routes", to placate the limitations of game development on consoles (namely Xbox 360).

Crytek sold out to gain a share of the console market. Although PS3 sales are not as high as Xbox 360 sales, I would argue that their user base spends more money on games. It's not smart to alienate the PS3 fan base.

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Highlander
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:53:15 PM

Sure about that thing about PS3 sales not being as high as 360 sales?

PS3 outsold the Xbox360 by 2.2 million consoles in calendar year 2010 - oh, I should add - global sales, not US alone.

Sony estimates that 80% of it's 50 million PS3s are net connected and with free online play, that's 40 million or so online players on PSN.

By comparison Microsoft recently confirmed that even though they claim to have *shipped* 50+ million Xbox360s they only recently tipped past 30 million Xbox Live subscribers (both Silver and Gold). They have previously confirmed that about 56% of Xbox live users have the Gold subscription required for online play. So in fact regardless of the number of 360s apparently shipped/sold. Fewer than 20 million Xbox360 owners are online playing games. Now, I may not be a nuclear physicist, but I know enough math to see a 2:1 ratio there of PS3 online players vs 360 online players.

Now, what was that about the 360 outselling the PS3?

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:10:20 AM

"PS3 outsold the Xbox360 by 2.2 million consoles in calendar year 2010 - oh, I should add - global sales, not US alone."

Yet the Google headlines are still dominated by "Xbox Spanks PS3, Wii...again" blah, blah, blah. So sick of gaming "journalists" this generation.

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Highlander
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 11:38:36 AM

OK now, I can see the point of down voting an opinion you dislike or disagree with. But everything I stated in my post was factual, so apparently, at least 3 people are so blinkered that they can't deal with reality.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 1:43:27 PM

Facts are like Kyptonite to the oblivious.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:28:00 PM
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LOL! Crytek is shutting down the PS3 demo early due to connection issues.

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/03/17/crysis-2-ps3-demo-ending-early-due-to-connection-issues/

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Temjin001
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:42:57 PM

early? As far as I'm concerned it never began. I could never get a single game to connect.

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PasteNuggs
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:44:04 PM

Wow, pathetic. I will give it this. I didn't freeze my ps3 like the first 360 demo did. It just quite a bit longer to find a match then the 2nd 360 version.

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Karosso
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:49:32 PM

They just don't want bad word of mouth spreading to quickly before they get some suckers to fork off the money for it... so sad, they should have kept it PC exclusive.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:08:06 PM

I actually only had one connect issue when I first tried to get in. I was able to get in my second try but I deleted the game 10 minutes later so there was no third try. LOL!

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:41:21 AM

That's a crying shame. I'll just stick to the superior KZ3.

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ColTater
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 11:45:07 AM

Does the demo feature cross platform play?

I downloaded last night for $hits and giggles to appease my ADHD 13 year old brother while he was over visiting to prevent him from playing COD-BO that he brought over, and he was mentioning something about the online ID's having spaces and that only Xbox allows that and PSN doesn't. Don't know if there is any truth to that.

Also, after seeing the abomination, it probably would have been better to just let him play COD, but after he left, to get the stank out of my mouth, I popped in KZ3 to let me know all is still right with in my FPS world.

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GuernicaReborn
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:41:45 PM
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So they're now admitting that the PS3 version is in fact inferior and behind the 360 version, while the whole time they've been saying that it is the superior build.

This little Crytek soap opera is entertaining in its own right.

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sirbob6
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:43:02 PM
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Well sounds like someone fails at porting.

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:44:07 AM

That sucks because EA has a great reputation at having identical ports and Crytek has screwed that up.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:43:53 PM
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And yet another demo screwing up people's expectations of a game. Oh thank GOODNESS we have demos this gen. Whatever would we talk about?

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:48:47 PM

We had demos last gen and the gen before it. I still have some of them on disc.

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rogers71
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:54:24 PM

Yeah, Jaw is correct. We have had demos for quite some time now. The only difference is that companies are essentially putting out 'beta' demos of multiplayer when they should concentrate on single player demos of finished product.

It all boils down to trying to quickly appease the twitch market.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:06:34 PM

Yup, which reminds me of what David Jeffe said about how back in the day, before updates and patches, developers had to make sure the demo/game was running as bug free as can be because once that disc shipped it was over. Now they have an avenue to correct their mistakes after the fact which gives them less incentive to make sure everything is 100% before it goes out. I suspect that's the reason we see more problems with games these days along with them being more complicated than they used to be of course.

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xnonsuchx
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 2:09:03 AM

I think Alienage meants freely accessible demos via online access...PS2 (and PS) demos were only really available as gaming mag or other 'promo' discs, so only a few people got to play them before a game came out.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:46:03 PM
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Crap like this is exactly why they should have done a PS3 beta first.

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Temjin001
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:46:31 PM
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For all the hype these guys were puffing up for themselves, it's sad that they're making a terrible first impression with everyone. I think rendering issues + network issues with the hardcore crowd who's in "the know" with what's hot and what's not with FPS games will probably have a trickle down effect with the masses vocalizing adamantly that Crysis 2 "is not hot"

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Bloodysilence19
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:50:23 PM
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Crytek stop pulling a peter molyneux ok. just admit you messed up and you couldn't figure out the ps3 hardware and you just ported the game over. the funny thing is though, a youtube vid heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvwioAx0n
actually shows all the version in hd and actually makes the ps3 demo look better than the 360 version. i cant believe they already pulling the plug on the crysis 2 demo, its only been out for 2 days, and now its being pulled, thats really stupid ea.

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BIGRED15
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:09:49 PM
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the potential the game showed was great but the lofty statements by crytek are clearly too farfetched if they cant get a stupid demo right. This game needs at least an avg. review score of 8.5 for me to consider buying it. Shooters for me can no longer skimp in any part of development if they want to compete with any of the most complete games out there. That means at least 10 hr campaign. robust and lengthy online component, and a quality narrative. Graphics also have to be up to par. Im tired of BS in shooter depts. Crytek is still a great developer but they simply have to put their money where there mouth is and impress a great amount of people this week for crysis 2 to succeed. if not i can wait till BF3 because at least DICE has proven that they can use the PS3 right and not make excuses.

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DazeOfWar
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:12:53 PM
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Guess I didn't miss anything, like I thought, on checking out the demo. I have never been that impressed with this game. Plus devs that constantly seem to brag over and over about how their game is going to be so great and gamers just don't get it or need to step out of their box end up with crappy games.

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bluedarrk
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:13:58 PM
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this demo beta or whatever you call it was a complete joke I wouldn't even buy this game at the bargain bin, takes too long to connect to a game crappy graphics frame rate is way too slow I'll stick with homefront that multiplayer is a hell of a lot better crysis 2 is the biggest disappointment so far for 2011

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johnld
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:27:01 PM
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i liked the crysis 2 demo. at best its an excellent replacement for COD. i like the fact that you can jump to rooftops and the multiplayer customization look/sounds great. gives crysis more dimension than cod. it seems more tactical than cod run and gun mechanic which is a breath of fresh air. doesnt come close to killzone 3 though, not even 2 i think.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:08:53 AM

...not even Killzone 2. Killzone 2 destroys Crysis 2 on consoles.

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bigrailer19
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:18:06 AM

Theirs not many things that come close to KZ2. That game was a masterpiece. A true defining moment in the FPS world was KZ2 release. KZ3 is as good but it managed to do nothing more surprising as far as story telling goes, but played more fluidly which I really liked.

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Qubex
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 2:51:20 AM

Have to agree... Killzone 2 was the business!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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bigrailer19
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:15:23 AM
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Well I enjoyed the demo regardless. It's not all about graphics for me. If the gameplay is fun then I can deal. MoH was my favorite shooter last year n although it really only competed with COD, it still isn't a grand looking game like say KZ3. so here's hoping what bugs they need to work out get worked out, and here's hoping the SP is fun since I didn't get a sampling of that!

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:20:32 AM

True it's not all about graphics but the performance was equally bad.

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bigrailer19
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:22:50 AM

Really? Well I guess I'm hoping for the best lol... Idk I am waiting for a few reviews since I have no idea what the sp will be like. But I do want it to be good so I can enjoy it, considering I'm not a mp whore!

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:30:08 AM

The frame rate was all over the place, the control input lagged as a result and the hit detection is poor.

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CrusaderForever
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:30:05 AM
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Tried to play the demo today and I couldn't connect. Tried 10 times and still I haven't played this demo. Went back to Homefront SP playing on Guerrilla. So far so good almost done with chapter 3. Really want to try the Crysis 2 demo. Oh well, I may just wait for the review.

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MadKatBebop
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 1:17:39 AM
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I thought the demo was fun, I just really wanted to play a singleplayer demo. When it comes down to multiplayer in any other fps I really just don't care unless its the Battlefield games, Crysis 2 seems like it could have an awesome singleplayer campaign I don't care to much about the MP.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 2:01:54 AM
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So why did they put it up if it wasn't at the point that they wanted it to be? Why couldn't they just hold off releasing it for a couple of weeks or whatever to make sure that everything was working properly? 'Oh, but platform preference can't be displayed!' BS. You say that the PS3 version is better, I'm sure we can wait a couple of weeks for you to prove it, rather than releasing something that is clearly inferior to what the 360ers get.

Seriously, use your bloody brains and you'll avoid the potential bad press, and consequent mentality for gamers to skip this bad port. Y'know what, I'm starting to think that Crysis 2 is going to be Haze all over again. Talked up, and bombed. Big swing, no ding.
Peace.

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___________
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 2:44:30 AM
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since when do we judge games on demos?
yous do realize they could easily release a patch on release day that fixes everything up right?
eh, i dont care ill be getting the PC version so it will blow both out of the water, and into next century!

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Lawless SXE
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 4:19:30 AM

Since demos are supposed to be indicative of the final game... That's why it's called a demonstration, which usually makes things seem better than they are, not worse. And of course they cuold release a patch, but that's lazy dev work and unavailable for me.
Smiles and Peace.

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___________
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 8:17:39 AM

just because its a demo does not mean thats how the final games going to be.
you do realize it was already old code when they submitted it to sony, and it takes several weeks to get things through their submission process right?
this demo would be based of code probably from mid jan, which is the same as the code which was leaked online of the full game.
compare that to the online demo they have now, its improved massively!
funny how when a ps3 exclusive demo comes out, and people complain and people jump on them saying its only a demo.
but when a MP demo comes out and everyone complains its not up to spec.
hell, remember the KZ2 demo?
i kept getting stuck in walls, not to mention the bug where the AI would not give you a boost up so you could not progress in the demo.
come release that was gone.
theres still heaps of time for crytek to neaten this up.
if this was retail code ok, but its demo code so lets save the flaming pitchforks till the games out, no?

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PorkChopGamer
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 10:30:54 AM

@ Lawless
Clearly, you've never read the disclaimer in the beginning of EVERY video game demo that states it's a work in progress and is NOT an indication of final game quality.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 1:41:46 PM

Never played a demo. :D

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evilmunkie
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 1:30:59 AM

@ ___________ , I remember the KZ3 MP beta vividly, I also remember it having connection issues once in a while. The big difference between that MP demo and the Crysis 2 MP demo is that KZ3 got updates, updates for pete's sakes, for a MP demo, I'm going to let that sink in for a second........... ok. So why can't there be a simple and quick update for Crysis 2 like KZ3 had? It didn't take long for the updates to take effect either,so why not update instead of cutting their losses and running? Now I got that bad taste of failure in my mouth thanks to this. Personally I couldn't get a single game running which is sad and it makes me think this game is broken one way or another, on the PS3. Hope they can get back on the ball but after this I'm not expecting to be impressed.

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___________
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 7:06:52 AM

you people dont read do you?
ok, maybe if i explain it again this time maybe it will get through.
EVERY SINGLE GOD DAM THING THAT RELEASES ON PSN HAS TO TO GO THROUGH CERTIFICATION THROUGH SONY.
THAT TAKES SEVERAL WEEKS, NOW WHATS THE POINT OF SUBMITTING A UPDATE FOR SONY TO APPROVE WHEN THE GAMES COMING OUT IN LESS THEN A WEEK?
BY THE TIME IT RELEASED THE GAME WOULD OF BEEN OUT FOR WEEKS!
that sink in?

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Lairfan
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 1:34:00 PM

@__________:

It can't take that long for patches to be certified by Sony, seeing as how it only took a couple DAYS for KZ3 to get patched. That sinking in yet dumbass?

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___________
Sunday, March 20, 2011 @ 7:33:16 AM

im the dumb ass?
you do realize they would of been working on patches previously you know?
my lord, the shortsightedness of the people here never ceases to amaze me!

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Snaaaake
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 2:50:44 AM
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Looks awesome but what's with all these crap???!!?
Crytek, you had almost 3 years to make this and you guys failed.

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Excelsior1
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 3:16:05 AM
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sorry, don't believe them. there has been little ps3 footage becuase they have been trying to hide it. it's been confirmed the ps3 demo is running at at a sub hd resolution, unlike the 720p 360 version. that's an old trick a lot of multiplat develoipers have used to try to keep the frame rate up on the ps3.

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Snaaaake
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 3:57:00 AM
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EA should have supervised Crytek.
This will only hurt both EA and Crytek's reputation.
While I never expected Crysis 2 to be a graphic phenomenon like Crysis was.
I never thought it would have issues coming.

And what we have here is just a lame excuse.
But I might put aside the technical issues if the gameplay is good and it does look good so far.

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A2K78
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 4:43:23 AM
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"Any game using CryEngine NEEDS to be played on PC. Period."

I disagree and why? Crysis 2(console versions) are merely scaled down versions of the PC game. Aside from that, when console-centric developers start using the CryEngine 3 we're going to see games that surpassing everyting currently consoles.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:24:42 AM

Doubtful.

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daizycutter
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 4:58:04 AM
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i just find it astonshing that they tried to sell us crysis 2 from a demo that did not work !..well i could never could get it to connect anyway...just sends all the wrong signals

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Excelsior1
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:14:27 AM
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ea pulled the demo. what a disaster. crytek challenged people to spot the difference between the 2 versions, and when 100 articles came in pointing out the inferior ps3 build they finally put it out of its misery.

i am glad they are being called out on it, since they have done nothing but lie.

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Fabi
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 9:42:30 AM
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I really didn't think the demo was all that bad, I don't like multiplayer and wish it would have been a single player demo, but from what I saw it wasn't as bad as everyone says.

Maybe cause the last FPS I played was Killzone 2. But even the graphics seem to be decent, maybe not on Killzone level, but pretty close in a different way. KZ has a grittier look, and I don't think you can compare them in that way.

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Jawknee
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 1:05:07 PM

Then Crytek shouldn't have compared them and they shouldn't have bragged about how this would look better than Killzone. It's not US who did the comparing. It's THEM.

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Fabi
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 3:58:34 PM

Is it just that I haven't played a FPS in such a long time that it doesn't seem bad at all to me?

I haven't been playing much of any genre actually, last game I played and passed was Vanquish, and nothing but FIFA after that.

About to start on Bullestorm and Killzone 2. And I cannot put into words how bad I want Infamous 2. The first one was my favorite game of this generation.

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oONewcloudOo
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 9:43:32 AM
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Why a developer would release a demo in that state is beyond me, so somethink sounds fishy

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Veitsknight
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 10:30:18 AM
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I am definitely getting this for the PS3 if the actual game is not "buggy as hell"

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kraygen
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 12:06:54 PM
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Hadn't gotten around to trying the demo yet, now I probably won't have a chance, but it doesn't matter.

Apparently Crysis 2 on ps3 has already crashed, burned, and died a horrible death.

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Lord carlos
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 3:35:21 PM
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Lame
I never judge a game based on its demo but it seems like crytek has fooked up the ps3 version,this game was going to hold me over untill socom 4 but now it might have to be mortal kombat instead.
I hope this does a mass effect 2 and surprises everybody :)

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PANICinc
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 4:58:55 PM
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Got my review copy today. Let ya guys know how the campaign is later tonight!

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PANICinc
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 5:06:31 PM

Wow! 4 gig install for Crysis 2! Hello Sims 3, my longtime friend/time killer!
LOL

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PANICinc
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:18:10 PM
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Okay, so here's the jest...
Frame-rate's good, nice graphics (nothing to rant and rave about) controls are a little wonky and will take some getting used to. Feels like, well, another shooter. If it's your genre or you're a big fan of the first Crysis, buy it! Or at least give it a try! But if you feel the same as I: 'Burnt out on shooters'
Now, back to Dragon Age!!

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Bloodysilence19
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 7:45:44 PM
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according to OPM now the gave crysis 2 a 8/10.

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Nick Maim
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 8:38:22 PM
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The PS3 version is called Connection Crysis 2.

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BIGRED15
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 9:13:39 PM
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http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/03/18/crysis-2-reviews-on-xbox-360-and-ps3-dont-disappoint/

well guys, you should probably check this out. Im thinking we're all being a little too harsh? maybe? from what it sounds, its no uncharted or killzone, but it still delivers so it at least worth a play or two

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Steel
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 2:49:19 AM
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so much to say... but how to organize all my thoughts! so first off, PLEASE bear with me, its late here and im battling insomnia so I may make a couple typos but i want to get my thoughts out:

1. Everyone in this community (that i generally love. its the only site i even post comments on) seems to be ripping cryteks head clean off because of a bad demo.. but to me, I can't really understand it. Frankly if it wasn't for my bro in law i wouldnt have even bought KZ3. the open beta absolutly fell flat in my honestl opinion. Maybe its my ps3 but i clearly read that connection problems were NOT the only problem. it straight up froze my ps3.. enough times that i quit playing it, and im pretty patient. I would rather play something that may not have the 5 star framerate than play a demo that freazes the **** out of my system. and no, I am not the only person with the problem and we all know that. Connection errors was a HUGE problem, and everyone knows that but is trying to turn a blind eye to it because KZ is one of our best treasures.

2. i DO think crytek stuck their foot in it when they got all arrogant about how superior this game would be on consoles, but frankly, who doesn't boast that anymore? its part of the advertisement game these days. I am not saying that it will succeed in its attempts, or that other games have failed when they said they would succeed, im just pointing out that a ton of devs spout the "best" word anymore.

3. weather its a port in hiding or it truly is its own build, these guys are freaking new as hell to consoles. Jesus they are lucky the 360 version isnt "bad" in peoples view as well. Maybe they were arrogant, maybe they did get in way over their heads. But at least they DID remove the demo to try and fix it. I think its unfair to say it "crashed and burned" before we even see the real damn thing. I am just as skeptical as everyone else and i pre ordered the game months ago (28$ with amazon coupons) hoping, and its yet to be seen if I will be dissapointed.

Just like games get pushed back for release, this demo got pushed out too soon and ya know what... we don't know all the gory details. Everyone is holding the branding iron to crytek, but you know, EA could have just as easily been the ones forcing this demo down the devs throat to make it by whatever date they decided. personally i dont love crytek (because i havent played their games yet) but EA is NOT my best friend, and their hands are just as bloody as cryteks.

That "we have had demos since ps2" statement earlier was laughable at best, and thats the truth. demos were like a xmas gift in may. a great suprise but you never count on it. and now we are practically deciding the fate on a game (and MOST games) before we even see the real thing? i don't think thats fair to ANY dev or studio, and frankly, I think it makes us look like arrogant jerks to try and judge something before its even done.

"that cake looks like crap" ...
"sir, i havent iced the cake yet, i havent even trimmed the edges" ...
"Don't care. I saw a part of it, you didnt impress me before you finished.. so im not buying that"

Think whatever you want. the sad truth about the world is that everyone out to make money off consumers lies through their teeth. some deliver, some don't. We shouldnt even imagine comparing crysis 2 to KZ3 because its freakin multi plat. you can say that we should be able to because of the "crysis 2 will be the best console shooter in history" comments from crytek but we should all be smart enough to know that we cannot actually listen to that garbage, as its a ploy, and Crytek is NOT the only developer to use it. and we shouldn't condemn them for it either. They are following suit. Difference is, unlike Naughty dog (first that pops to my head) they MAY not succeed with their claims, where ND has so far, and has most people pretty convinced they will continue to.

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Steel
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 2:54:19 AM
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theres a ton of demos I know i wouldn't have bought the game, and missed out on a great exp. unless I reminded myself that we don't know what actually is going on at the desk of all the hard working devs trying to make games work. Dragon age II froze 4 times in the demo for me. But i gave it a chance, and I love the game. Only froze twice, and im at least 35 hours in.

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Excelsior1
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 2:34:58 PM
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people are ripping crytek's head off becuase the ps3 demo is not up to snuff. they claimed it was running better on the ps3 at 1 point, but strangely we never managed to see any ps3 footage until now. people are upset becuase of the quality of the ps3 build.

funny you should mention kz3. crytek claimed crysis 2 alpha looked better than kz3, and turns out that was absolute bs. there was nothing wrong with kz3 beta, either. it looked as good as the final product.

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Steel
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 4:21:04 PM
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thumb down all you want but the truth is that people on this site turn a blind eye to exclusives more and more everyday. the KZ3 beta had plenty of problems and you know it ex. id hate to see what you think a problem is if having PS3s freeze across the globe during the kz3 beta is "just fine" to you.

Great how everyone can seem to forgive exclusives without a second thought for under par demos but condemns multiplats for it. keep turning a blind eye.

id love to see your reaction if you were a new programmer or even a vetren, doing the best you can while your boss makes lofty comments when he shouldnt be. you know, sometimes the people working hard on something, are not the people talking about it to the press.

btw, you have a link to the claim that crysis 2 on ps3 looked better in alpha then KZ3? i think i missed that official announcment. what i read was that it looked better than KZ2.. not kz3

Unless you write a comment that bleeds only PS3 exclusive game content blood on this site, you get chewed on.

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Beamboom
Sunday, March 20, 2011 @ 7:21:16 PM

This is *exactly* how it is. Remember the vote for the "Killzone CATASTROPHY", where the readers were expected to vote what they thought of the less-than-90% reviews BEFORE they had a chance to play it? That really says it all about the attitude around here.


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BIGRED15
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 11:43:23 PM
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im gonna laugh if some condemned game pulls a rabbit out of a hat and becomes one of the best games of the year crysis has the ability to be that underrated game. It will probably be better than some of the games some ppl consider high quality entertainment. if we can just bury the hatchet until tuesday... we are really beating this in the ground too much. Proof is in the pudding and we only need to wait a bit longer so until then we just need to let crytek do their thing. if crysis is as good as they claim, we'll be in for a treat, if not. whatever, we'll spend our money elsewhere kz3 bf3 uncharted3 R3 inf.2 we're not exactly in a gaming drought tons of games out there

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Steel
Sunday, March 20, 2011 @ 3:02:46 PM
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amen bigred. funny how so many people were just so sure that it was totally bleak, and that crysis had already failed... all i have to say is... http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/03/20/crysis-2s-final-build-proves-crytek-correct-ps3-version-is-solid/ now its just up to everyones PERSONAL opinion if the graphics look better than KZ3. everyones eyes are different. but they seem to have lived up to their claims, its a damn sexy looking game. Oh, dont just click the clip without reading. it DOES have some spoilers! its a playthrough from the beggining-ish part of the game, so just be warned :). anyhow.. glad i kept my faith with them instead of jumping on the hate band wangon over a demo.

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