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Analyst: "Consumers Are Just Drowning In Shooters"

Oh, how true it is, regardless of how good some of those shooters might be.

We asked EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich about Grand Theft Auto V, and whether or not it could reclaim the sales crown from current industry blockbuster Call of Duty. And while he wouldn't hazard a guess as to GTAV's release date or coming-out party, he did say that despite CoD's stranglehold on the market, consumers are begging for a change. We've heard something similar from our readers. Says Divnich:

"Call of Duty provides a differentiating experience than Grand Theft Auto, and vice versa, but both are definitely the top dogs in their market segment. The market has been absent of a high-quality sandbox title for a while and that has resulted in a migration in sales from sandbox action titles to modern war first-person shooters. But that works in GTA’s favor. Consumers are just drowning in modern day shooters right now and I believe the next 16 months present an excellent timeframe for a high-quality sandbox game. My prediction? GTA V’s sales will be of epic proportions."

It must also be noted - even if it's of little consequence - that due to the inordinate number of bugs and glitches experienced by Black Ops players, some have predicted this bitterness would translate to lower CoD sales this year. Also, analyst Michael Pachter apparently agrees with Divnich in saying that GTAV might hit 20 million in worldwide sales.

But there's one fact that does indeed ring true- the shooters are everywhere these days.

Tags: eedar, jesse divnich, gtav, grand theft auto v, fps

3/30/2011 3:04:58 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (71 posts)

maxpontiac
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 3:23:23 PM
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Drowning in shooters?

Understatement of the year.

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ColTater
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:35:48 PM

I just wish Infamous 2 would get the recognition it deserves and be that HIGH quality sandbox game. If part 1 wasn't considered high enough quality, I don't know what is.

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telly
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 10:48:24 AM

I love a good shooter, but enough's enough you know?

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shootu
Tuesday, April 05, 2011 @ 12:28:11 AM

GTA needs to change shooter gaming and make the first shooter game that is first person and third person. In my opinion all shooters should be this way. It cant be that hard racing games can do it why can shooters???

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laxpro2001
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 3:29:57 PM
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Not so much drowning in shooters, so much as it is experiencing a drought of other options... There are a lot but there always have been (for the past few years)

EDIT: They better make GTAV good and undo the mistakes they made in IV. I loved GTA III, VC, and SA as they were all excellent games. There was no reason I shouldn't have liked IV

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 2:12:17 AM

Actually that's a *very* good point, Lax. We do not need fewer shooters, we want more of the other stuff.

What I want to see sometime soon, is a *really* complex, large, deep RPG for the rpg geeks. A game where I can spend days just figuring out stuff, a game where nothing is "on auto". I want to craft, I want to make decisions, customize skills, The battles should be a bonus to test your skills, not all you do.

I do not mean to sound ungrateful, the BioWare rpg's was really a lifesaver for me and there's Mass Effect 3 just around the corner, but dang I miss those games where I had to not only think, but *ponder*. I want to be forced to use a spreadsheet just to figure out where to put my skillpoints! :D


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MadKatBebop
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 3:33:25 PM
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Ive never been a fan GTA, and I probably won't play this one, but it does kinda feel like the shooter craze is coming down a little, I think, I hope.

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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 3:45:21 PM
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He pretty much summed it down with:
"but both are definitely the top dogs in their market segment."

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slugga_status
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 3:46:58 PM
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So true..everything is a shooter these days. If it isn't a FPS then it's a TPS. Some are good some are average and I've seen some that shouldn't have been a shooter at all..

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 3:55:42 PM
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well if patcher said it, it must be true. gta5 will be a great seller no doubt, but i still think the multiplayer is driving cod sales to their heights. this isn't 2006. the market has changed to one that prefers a close quater run and gun shooter named cod. i don't like it, but the sales of cod say a lot. i think it'll be tough to knock cod out the top spot unless the next game is really bad.
those glitches won't even phase cod sales. if something does overtake cod it'll probably be another twitch shooter.

maybe the oversaturation of shooters explains the poor kz3 sales. i wonder how crysis 2 is doing? i heard it was at the top of the 360 charts in the uk, but that's all i know. the shooter craze is far from over in my opinion.

gta4 split a lot of people's opinions on the series with many claiming the fun of the series was lost. it will be interesting what direction gta5 goes becuase that could factor into sales as well.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:06:55 PM

what did Pachter say?

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:29:50 PM

he said he agreed with divnitch that gta5 would sell 20 million copies. at least that's what this article says at the very end.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:33:39 PM

Guess I spaced at the end, it will be interesting to see what the sales are. I'm tiring of GTA but I don't think the market is. Still, just about everyone complains that GTAIV wasn't a compelling game despite the quality.

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 10:11:01 PM

World, I have never played a GTA game, so GTAV will be my first outing with that I.P. Surely it should be a memorable experience...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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DjEezzy
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:01:24 PM
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I definitely agree. Although, there are some great shooters out and coming out. Brink looks pretty cool and everyone one knows Battlefield 3 and Resistance 3 are going to be great. As far as another Call of Duty goes. No thanks. I really like COD but they need to change it up a bit. Really diggin Crysis 2. It'll probably be my FPS fix for a good while to come. Socom is my next buy and at least it's a TPS. Gotta love 3d gaming. LOL.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:16:06 PM

socom 4 is my next buy as well. i wish ben would do a preview on it. the beta looks, and plays great so i think it deserves a little more attention. i don't want this to be another ps3 exclusive that slips under the radar. it's much improved over confrontation, so i encourage people to check it out for a great tactical tps fix.

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ColTater
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:45:30 PM

I must just be really terrible at it, but I can't even see where I am getting shot from and 1-2 hits and BOOM dead and it isn't even from a sniper rifle, yet when I unload a clip at someone, nothing. Although it may not help that I am only level 10, and you have people that are already level 50 and higher on the beta. Also, it seems the characters run so darn fast that even if someone goes right by me while in crouch or prone, I can't even keep the aiming reticule on them to hit em. I can't get an even KD ratio. The camera doesn't seem to move fast enough, even with both set to the highest sensitivity. Maybe SOCOM and the TPS style just isn't for me, but I am great at Uncharted 2 so I don't understand.

I'd give the beta a 7 out of 10 right now, but maybe thats cuz I am getting pwned.

Guess I am stuck with the Sharpshooter for KZ3 and Dead Space Extraction until R3 comes.

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DazeOfWar
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:47:23 PM

I've been loving the Socom beta. A friend of mine was over this last weekend and tried it out and loved it. I also gave him my extra code from KZ3. It reminded us both about all the fun we use to have on GRAW. Socom 4 just feels and looks so much better. Can wait for the final copy.

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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:12:01 PM

@ColTater

It only takes 3 shots to kill someone. You might need to play a bit longer to get used to it. Also, by the time the final game releases, it will be completely different because of the feedback. That, my friend, is what betas are for.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:06:56 PM

yes, you do get cut down fast, and there is a learning curve. it''s definitely not for everyone. when you get several good players with mic's in a group it's great. you can be a lot more aggressive when someone's got your back.

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:03:04 PM
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Gee, it must be so nice to be paid to state the blindingly obvious. I truly envy these analysts, when they're right, they're right, and when they're wrong, the market changed in an unanticipated manner requiring further analysis. Talk about a win/win job.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:35:17 PM

Well, for the record, Jesse didn't want to guess at the GTAV announcement because he predicted it would arrive at last year's E3. ...obviously, that was way wrong and he's afraid to make any new predictions.

Not everything is so obvious in the analyst's world. ;)

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:09:23 PM
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I blame consoles, there I said it. The 360 community has brought about this plague of shooters upon us. Where are the great RPGs, Adventure games, or even RTS. Too many are fine with a generic formula that is reused over and over.

Hell Crysis2 is not what it could have been. They finally released a patch PC-Side to deactivate autoaim. Pretty obvious who the lead platform was in that development.

I'm looking forward to Battlefield3 but other than that I'm done with the shooter genre, especially on consoles.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:16:46 PM

Not sure how you can blame consoles when the first PlayStation provided us with the greatest diversity of RPGs ever seen...something beyond the same real-time D&D format always seen on PC. Not to mention the popularity of certain titles in the action, platforming and sports genres.

I mean, if the PC has relied on anything at all, it's shooters. At least there are more than three genres on consoles.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:27:38 PM

there might be some truth to that. at least on the 360 side. xbox fans have always preferred their shooters, and the shooter craze on consoles can be traced back to halo. i think the rise of the 360 as console of choice for hardcore gamers definitely is a factor in this shooter craze.

ben, will you please do a preview of socom 4, and offer your impressions of the beta?

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ColTater
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:52:46 PM

360 only has the popularity it does because the PS3 wasn't out at the time when it first arrived so all the whittle boys went and asked their mom to buy it for them because they had to have the latest (not greatest) tech at the time, and the 360 was the ONLY option console wise, not talking about high end PC's, then again little kids probably know next to nothing about high end PC's and wouldn't have asked for that anyways.

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coverton341
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:57:37 PM

I'm siding with LV on this one with one point of contention. I don't outright blame consoles, I blame this generation of consoles and the new console owners of this generation.

Like Ben said, previous console generations had great diversity in their genres but then again, I think a lot of that has to do with the owners of those consoles vs the owners of these. (New owners that is)

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:00:04 PM

Ben,

Sorry I didn't clarify. I was referring to this generation. The PS1 and PS2 have given me my favorite gaming thanks to all the RPGs and Adventure games.

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coverton341
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:01:57 PM

I redact my statement, I completely agree with LV on this one.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:36:09 PM

Oh, well, that makes more sense. ;)

But the trend seems to be blind to platform, in my eyes.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:38:20 PM

that is the same argument that the original xbox fans used to make about the ps2. sony won that gen by winning over the hardcore gamers, and with its stellar game line up. the success of the ps1 carried over, too. it wasn't just little boys picking up the 360, it was the hardcore gamers. the same people who owned, and loved their ps2's that jumped ship over to the 360 for whatever reason. sony had all the momentum going into this gen, so what happened?

i blame the $600 price tag, and the poorly handled multiplats. it wasn't just becuase the 360 was out first. there was an unbelivable amount of negative buzz around the ps3 early this gen. that, combined with the price scared many in the ps2 crowd who then jumped ship. so much so the 360 survived the rrod disaster virtualy unscathed. it was only when we saw the price drop to $299 did the ps3 show any signs of life. by then it was too late, and the 360 has consistently outsold the ps3 in na since. almost by a 2:1 margin.

it's a little more complicated than being first, and mommy buying them 360's. sony's doing better now, but i think their loss of marketshare has contributed to this shooter craze. japanese developers covet the na market so badly they have thrown out their traditional way of making games so we see less diversity.

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 10:12:59 PM

I enjoy my FPS's but a lot of shooter bling bling has dumbed down gaming somewhat!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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___________
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 3:02:37 AM

no offense ben, but that shows how little about the PC you know!
yea, all the mainstream titles are shooters but your forgetting all the indie titles it gets.
PC is the only platform these days that actually gets a decent flow of puzzle and platforming games.
puzzle games especially are very rarely seen on consoles, but are popping up all the time on PC!
super meat boy to name one of my most recent favorites!
basic, simple, PISS HARD, elegant and fun at the same time!
one of those few games that manages to be ridiculously hard, but not frustrating, and somehow very rewarding!

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wizzardofozzy
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 7:03:15 PM

Yeah but I would have to say that it started with the xbox and halo.

Am I the only one that saw it coming like years ago?Call of duty 3 said it all,for me(respawning enemies,the fast pace,multiplayer)that was the last console game I would buy.I put maybe fifteen minutes into it.

...ok maybe the move was partly because I was poor att and couldnt afford a ps3 but hey it worked out pretty good anyway,I found half-life2,gmod and battlefield.

Dont get me wrong,im still a huge sony fan,always will be.



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tes37
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:14:09 PM
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You can't drown a man unless he gets near the water. Right now, I'm just splashing a little bit on like cologne.

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:57:21 PM

Do you have any recommendations on colognes? I have been trying to find the right one but i can't find any that suits my taste.

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coverton341
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:00:30 PM

Armani Attitude. It's heavenly

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:02:18 PM

Ok, thanks. I'll have to try it out then. How much is it by the way?

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coverton341
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:06:33 PM

You can find a 1.7 for $40USD

I have a tonne of different colognes because I am a scent Wh0r3 so a 1.7 bottle lasts quite a while for me.

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tes37
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:15:20 PM

It was a stupid joke. I hate cologne, so I recommend not wearing any and using unscented deodorant.

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:21:40 PM

I don't mind wearing cologne.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:12:17 PM

Axe Twist

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:39:28 PM

I wear axe too, but I wear phoenix.

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DjEezzy
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:36:30 PM
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I think that is a totally biased statement about consoles. Honestly let the shooters come and go. Thats what makes these action, rpg, rts and games like Heavy Rain so great. If every game were the same then we wouldn't have AAA titles. The action games wouldn't feel so fresh. The sandbox games wouldn't feel so overwhelmingly awesome. If we had too many action games then they'd start to feel stale and watered down. I enjoy my shooters and to be honest, nit picking about the auto aim is just being well... Nit Picky!!! I hardly notice it and it definitely doesn't detract from the main experience. The things people complain about sometimes just amazes me.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:48:56 PM

do you ever get the feeling that pc gamers look down on us console gamers? like we stole the show unfairly somehow. they did all the work, and we get all the credit. that's the vibe i get.

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GuyverLT
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:37:26 PM

@Excelsior1
I agree but don't forget how allot of PC gamers constantly going on & on & on about how much better graphics are on PC like it's the important thing in gaming when it isn't.

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 2:21:57 AM

I agree with what you say Guyver, but graphics sure has a huge focus on the consoles too. We just compare with the xbox instead, and of course the infamous multiplat discussion...


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DazeOfWar
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 4:39:54 PM
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I'm drowning in to many great games. Which isn't a bad thing just wish I had more time to play.

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just2skillf00l
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:04:28 PM
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Laxpro,

I like that perspective better. A drought of other game genres.

Shooters aren't the bad guys, but if I flipped over the chess board I would say that for every game that is released that's a shooter, that's one less RPG, or interactive drama, etc.

On a completely off-topic question...does anyone know what has happened to Ni no Kuni? Just fell off the radar. Haven't heard a thing since the announcement it was going into development.

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ryu
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:05:06 PM
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never got into fps w/o mouse and keyboard,

in fact, never even touched it

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 2:27:22 AM

Using a stick to move your body is like sitting in a electric wheelchair, right?
I hear you, I had a major struggle with that too, for a very, very long time, and even today after 5 years exclusively on the ps3 I move like a duck compared to the m+k combo.
However, have you tried to play a fps with Move? I've not, but I hear good things about it being at least one good step closer to the mouse.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:46:31 PM
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Can't say he is wrong though, while I play many kinds of genre, I happen to love shooters a bit more, especially TPS.

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LightShow
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 5:57:22 PM
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normally i wouldnt care, except most are trying to be COD clones.

this drives me bonkers. i wasted an entire summer playing bad company 1 online, i spent about a week on bad company 2 online, mostly because it got hybridized with COD to appeal to the people who normally wont touch any shooter unless its COD.

homogenization is killing FPS's, not inundation.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:03:59 PM
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PSXE is getting awful cozy with Jesse Divnitch, which is good cuz it helps to know somebody in the biz who isn't Pachter.

If he's right about sandbox games then inFamous 2 should rule the exclusive charts. Although I don't really think of it as being as sandboxy as GTA. There's more of a focus.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:23:36 PM

i hope you are right. the sixth axis was pretty impressed with it during their hands on session. i hope sony advertises it heavily.

off topic. did you guys hear about the 360's beta regarding a new dvd format that may add a whopping 1gb to the format? what a joke. i thought the standard dvd9 format was all they need.

ben did not answer me on my request regarding a preview of socom4's beta:(

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:36:04 PM

Yeah I was disappointed, just 1 more gig? They might as well erase their copy protection from the disc and open the whole thing up since they are all pirated anyway.

We should have a Socom Beta hands on over at Titan Reviews pretty soon. Not doing it myself though, I've got a jam packed schedule.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:23:17 PM

For a moment I thought they were going to use different format.

But I didn't know the details, just 1GB?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:45:14 PM

Its just a beta test of a new "format" so who knows what the endgame for it will be.

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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 7:40:08 AM

ill never get tired of typing this...mikey shoulda recycled all that hd-dvd media

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Wissam
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 6:36:23 PM
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And they are all the same. that's why I only play kill zone games on my ps3.and that is the
only shooter game I play.

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Lairfan
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:31:41 PM
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Wait, so Assassin's Creed II and Brotherhood and Infamous aren't high-quality open world games?

I think his reasoning is a bit off for this one. Open world games are just as high-quality as ever, even without GTAIV or V or whatever the hell number they come out with next. I mean, just look at how many copies each new iteration of Assassin's Creed sells.

No, Divnich, its not that open world games are less high-quality, its that shooters have multiplayer, plain and simple. The sense of community, peer pressure to play online with friends, and addictive quality is what drives their sales. I do agree that the FPS genre is in danger of being deposed from its kingly spot soon by something better (GTAV?), but Divnich has to be joking if he thinks open world games aren't ruling the roost because they're not as high-quality as before.

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:42:55 PM
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Don't know that I'm drowning, but definitely high pressure water hose to the face. Anywhere but here and about the only info you can find about video games is fps info.

As for sandbox, Infamous 2 deserves to own the crown. Over 40 million ps3 owners, there should be at least half of them that purchase it. I know they won't, but they should.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:46:11 PM

Owning a PS3 and not inFamous 2 this summer is like owning a PS3 and not Uncharted 2.

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 7:52:46 PM

Personally I think owning a ps3 and not owning Infamous 2 is more like owning a ps3 and not having it connected to the internet, or not owning a blu ray, or not taking it out of the box.

Did I mention I'm looking forward to Infamous 2?

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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 8:22:28 PM
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I'm a huge FPS fan and have liked around 2-3 of them this gen. Not only are we being bombarded with a certain genre....but a genre done wrong.

The 90s and a few early 00's FPS games were genius. So much to them. That age is gone and a 1st person Hollywood war movie is favoured.

Well...Someone's about to get schooled come June...so it's all good.

Anyway, this analysis is mostly in line with mine, as i pointed out in the other similar topic.

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JMO_INDY
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 8:47:32 PM
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Im drowning in receipts from all the good games I've had to buy this and last year...the rest of the year will definitely be to one sandbox...inFamous 2 and definitely GTAV if it does release this year. I really have no room to complain.

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BigBoss4ever
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 1:35:35 AM
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i have not even loved one single FPShooters this gen, not ever, its that clear. (MGS and Uncharted are the only games I loved this gen associating with shooters if you consider them as shooters, but that is about it)

or put this way, anything else other than FPS released this gen may all potentially interest me. -- my love for shooters is as thin as to this degree, for wutever reason, and yes, i am biased on this.

peace

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Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 3:09:15 AM
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A-F*CKING-MEN!
we seriously need a break from all these shooters, i mean its almost every week we have a new one!
if you were to list every shooter due for release in the next 2 years, you would generate such a long paper trail it would be large enough to drown the entire population of planet earth!

as for whether GTAV steals CODs sales crown as i said the other day it depends.
IF and thats a MASSIVE IF R* go back to the old days and give us a old style GTA, or even better GTA vice city HD then yea it probably will.
i doubt it though, there much more likley to give us a new game like GTAV, in that case i doubt it.
GTAIV only sold so well because 1 it was GTA, 2 it was the first GTA for the new systems, 3 everyone had massively high expectations, and 4 almost every review was a 10!
GTAV is going to have none of those advantages, and theres going to be allot of people sour from IV so that will hurt its sales.
just like the next COD will have to deal with, BO was so buggy allot of people have sworn off it, and the whole IW debacle wont be helping either!
does not mean they wont sell, just means its going to make it harder for them.

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tridon
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 10:28:58 AM
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Consumers drown in both genres, it's just that each genre takes a turn every few years. This isn't the first time we've drowned in shooters but 2011 is probably the most severe year yet. Just a couple years ago, though, sandbox titles were absolutely everywhere. Personally, I prefer shooters as I dislike mission-based games as I tend to get bored of them. Sandbox titles are usually quite lengthly, too, and I just don't have the time. The only sandbox I've truly got into in the past couple years is Just Cause 2, and even that I never did complete. I have no doubt in my mind that GTA5 will be enormous and the most likely contender for CoD's crown but I won't be there for myself. I've always thought the series was over-rated. I wish games like Metal Gear Solid, the Team ICO titles and even Uncharted would get the sales and publicity that both CoD and GTA receive (and yes, I know that'll never happen because they're exclusive to one platform... I'm just saying). I think they're much more deserving.

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poisonedsodapop
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 12:08:34 PM
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I love third person shooters but this influx of FPS has me annoyed. I tried the beta for SOCOM and have decided against purchasing it. So really I'm looking forward to a new GTA, but before that I'd like to see the new Saint's Row. Really, anything that's not an under 10 hour shooter adventure looking to cash in is gonna be amazing at this point. And the last shooter I played was CoD:BO so really I'm lucky that I'm not into the genre I guess. I hear a lot about it though since I work at GameStop.

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Godslim
Thursday, March 31, 2011 @ 2:47:29 PM
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i think its more the lack of other types of games.....

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