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Playing Video Games Isn't Feminine

No, I'm not saying that; I heard someone say it.

Yes indeed, believe it or not, I heard someone say those very words just a few days ago. It wasn't a joke; the statement was made in earnest, and believe it or not, the person who said it was quite familiar with video games. It wasn't as if an 85-year-old grandmother made the comment; this person said it in a matter-of-fact-way and is a self-admitted gamer. While my first instinct was to disagree, something gave me pause...I can't quite put my finger on it, though, because in all honesty, I've never met any women who play games.

Even so, there was definitely something stopping me from disagreeing. I did, however, want to make it abundantly clear that I thought certain video games catered to the girly-girl. As the industry has expanded, it has become much like other entertainment venues in terms of diversity and variety. In short, we're reaching a point (if we haven't reached it already) where I believe there's something for everyone, provided you look hard enough. He didn't disagree with this, per se, but he insisted that the practice of playing video games - at its core - simply wasn't "feminine." It lies in the nature of the hobby, which is two-fold: firstly, it's electronic-based and for decades, electronics and gadgets were almost solely the male's habitat. Secondly, it has to do with the subject matter of most games, which admittedly isn't "feminine."

Still, in this day and age, every soul alive has a cell phone or a smartphone, and it seems to be a commonly accepted belief that girls are more into texting than guys. They're also into Facebook and MySpace and what have you; and those are electronic "at their core." And as I just said, gaming is branching out; the variety gets bigger with every passing day. It's true that the most popular games may be considered "guy fare;" i.e., all the shooters, GTA, action games where you run around killing stuff, etc. And it's also true that the mainstream populace still views gaming as a male-oriented hobby. Therefore, if you include social stereotypes and other elements of the situation, perhaps we can say that playing games isn't...well, "ladylike."

I'm just wondering what people think about this. I have no experience in the matter; I can only go by what I see and second-hand information. No offense to any women out there, but I think this is worth discussing. Is it that different from saying interior design isn't "manly?"

Tags: video games, games industry, girl gamers, female gamers

4/7/2011 9:16:14 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (68 posts)

Jawknee
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 9:38:00 PM
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I wouldn't disagree either. I don't see anything wrong with girls playing games but I myself just associate the hobby more with boys/men.

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 9:39:00 PM
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My GF games pretty heavily, I don't see it as feminine but I sure do see it as attractive. Even if it is a male dominated hobby, I fail to see how women getting more involved would be a bad thing in the slightest. I mean that's just one more thing you can have in common with your woman. And in the end it's a very fun hobby to share with two people in the same household as systems are meant to handle more than one controller at a time for a reason ;) Share the love of gaming!

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LightShow
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 9:41:05 PM
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ive met (or dated) many girls of all strains of nerdiness, from LoTR geeks to MMORPG chicks. except console gaming, outside of games deliberately designed for anyone to pick up and play, like little big planet. seems strange to me.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 9:58:21 PM
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KZ3 isn't feminine by all means, yet before my PS3 died, I saw quite a few female gamers playing in the MP Warfare mode.

And one, GamerGirl666, who took the top honors on almost every leaderboard matches she played in while I was online.

So who's to say

"You go girls"

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:05:44 PM

Mind you there area quite a few guys out there who pretend to be girls O_o

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Vitron
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:43:29 PM

Haha... true..

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kraygen
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:59:46 PM

true, but that would seem to be taking it to the extreme if he made his psn I.D. gamergirl666.

Making female characters in a particular game is one thing, but to name your entire psn experience under a false sex?

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:18:42 PM

You never know! One day on Mw2 I saw a 'girl' playing with the PSN Naughty_Girl(I think it was this but im pretty sure im 45% wrong, long time ago). Naughty_Girl did not have a mic the day I 1st met Naughty_Girl. Sent Naughty_Girl a friendly friend request, 4-5 days later invited Naughty_Girl to my party & Naughty_Girl had a mic, I was like, "So.... Wassup". Then Naughty_Girl replied, "Wassup man" I was like O_o OMG!!! It was a guy! I was scared. He had a deep voice...

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JMO_INDY
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 12:02:54 AM

Case and point.

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aaronisbla
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 1:27:42 AM

we all know by now that girl: guy in real life

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evilmunkie
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 8:24:02 AM

your better of just laughing and telling yourself she put her boyfriend on the mic. that would atleast actually be funny and alot better than asking yourself why or what. hah, do i even got to say delete anyways?

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Mr Diamond
Monday, April 11, 2011 @ 1:26:53 AM

i remember playing once on an all female team on modern warfare 2. they all had headsets and they all played awesome. apart from those girls i have met lots of women that play video games and own at least one gaming console to the girl who owns all 3. and of course the geeky girls who play WoW lol. Girls are in the gaming scene for a long time now, but some are very quiet about it since most men would think they are more likely to be a bit of a tomboy. that or the huge mass of guys that when they know they are playing with a girl they start hitting on her. thats just pathetic imo.

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LittleBigMidget
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:19:57 PM
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Gaming is accessible by both genders, but males dominate the majority.
I know I feel like running over people in GTA after my girlfriend moans about where I put the syrup.

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Eld
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:32:29 PM
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I don't know nor do I care is it feminine or not, but I sure find it attractive. I mean, myself being interested in games, it would make sense that I look for girl who is also interested in games.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:02:47 PM

definitely, its a common interest.

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Vitron
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:42:30 PM
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Though I'd like to disagree, deep down inside me admits its somehow tr..u..e.



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PasteNuggs
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:42:55 PM
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I honestly think most girls would love RPG's or great action/adventure games with really good stories except the fact I don't always think there to fond of the setting such as a fantasy or sci-fi universe. I believe they are more in to the practical this could actually happen kind of stuff.

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FxTales
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 10:51:27 PM
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I don't agree with comments like that, it doesn't anger me, it's just ignorance.

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Underdog15
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 8:35:35 AM

See my post lower. I originally began replying to you, but removed the reply once it got longer. lol

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:02:00 PM
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The hottest girl I know plays games, shes a sexy model and, well yeah I might find it cute when she breaks out the DS but I don't find it particularly feminine.

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kraygen
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:02:30 PM
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I would agree that most gaming isn't feminine in that it's not designed to be all girly girl for the ladies, but at the same time I know some girls that like to be girly sometimes and sometimes they like to get online and kill stuff.

Gaming may not be feminine, but that doesn't mean that some ladies don't enjoy it.

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kraygen
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:04:19 PM

On a side note, I got an email from best buy today. Wanted to mention it because it was a response to a complaint I made. A complaint I made over 4 months ago and I just got a response. How sad is that?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:07:10 PM

depends, did they rectify the issue?

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kraygen
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 7:22:06 AM

LOL no! They told me my blu rays would be here within a few days, some time between 12/4/2010 - 12/10/2010.

I wrote them back and said that was interesting since that was 4 months ago and I didn't get my blu rays until the 22nd of december. I had forgotten about it until I got the email last night.

I was mad they were a couple weeks later than I was told, but I had them so I forgot about it, but now I'm thinking Best Buy's customer service is about as good as 4 month old scrambled eggs.

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Kiwi of DOOM
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:12:21 PM
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As a girl gamer, it might be surprising that I agree with this and am not offended in the least. Yes, gaming it's not 'feminine' but I don't see why it should need to be just for us to play. On that same note, I'm happy to see more titles that cater to the female crowd, but there are many of us who will still prefer the grittier and more 'manly' titles we play now. Take it or leave it, but if the gaming deals a hit to my image as a female, I'm cool with that. I'll still continue to love games just as much as I love my sappy romance movies and other more 'feminine' things.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 12:50:54 AM

"but I don't see why it should need to be just for us to play."

Exactly.

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Underdog15
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 8:36:26 AM

.HACK GU.

Awesome.

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, April 07, 2011 @ 11:25:24 PM
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Gaming today is not like how it was years ago... Before, I used to hide that I played videogames because noone played back then. Now when my friends ask what im going to do later, I tell em' im going to play my playstation 3. In todays world almost every teenager has either a 360, Ps3, a Wii, or a PC to game on. Since there are more people gaming out there, mostly males, soon the females will join the party. There's nothing that can stop it.

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The Doom
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 12:59:11 AM
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Why would anyone care if something is 'ladylike' for the girl in the first place? I never understood that. More often than not, the people saying this aren't their parents. Sure playing games isn't feminine, but holding a controller while looking at things that go on on a screen isn't masculine either.

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Excelsior1
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 1:24:46 AM
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girls are just wired different. there is definitely something about them that makes them less inclined to be hardcore gamers.

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poisonedsodapop
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 8:24:01 PM

I know this is probably gonna start a fight but how so? What specific examples do you have?

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Lawless SXE
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 3:19:30 AM
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Depends on how you choose to look at it. Another example from a different perspective: It is typically considered masculine for a person to be fit and active, while femininity is more tuned into sedentary habits. Would you agree with this? If so, does it not make sense that gaming, in its very essence, is feminine? I mean, that's a very limited view, and I'm certainly not disagreeing with the thought that they are not specifically aimed at the female market, or may not necessarily appeal to it.

I suppose I consider gaming more of a male hobby as that has how it has been seen since its inception. I have no trouble whatsoever with a girl playing games, regardless of what I might otherwise think of them. Saying otherwise is discrimination.

I think with more games like Heavy Rain and L.A. Noire being created, it makes it easier and more likely for girls to become interested in games, simply because they're not so focussed on violence and machismo. As I've mentioned before, I think that the more that gaming matures from a literary and thematic standpoint, it will naturally incline itself more towards feminine interests. Am I the only one that thinks this?
Peace.

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___________
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 3:53:04 AM
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well if your going to stick to the book then yea i guess not.
but nor are allot of things, but that does not stop them from happening.
im sick of the mindset that games are for kids, and girls dont play games.
its just stupid!
you would think society over time would wake up to the stereotype.
but you would think wrong!
just because thats how things were 20 years ago, does not mean thats how it is now!

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Lawless SXE
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 4:14:02 AM

Well... it's not negative, and that makes it a start. :D

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JMO_INDY
Saturday, April 09, 2011 @ 2:48:57 AM

Zing!

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RebelJD
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 5:58:14 AM
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True, gaming is a male dominant form of entertainment. Just like sports are male dominant as well. Racing is also a male dominant, so is wrestling. Comic books are male dominant...I'm sorry, where are we going with this?

Some women are attracted to the sport. Others are attracted to the men who play them. And yes, some women have the passion to make it their own and be great at it.

Billiard is male dominant and so is professional gambling...I'm sorry, where are we going with this again?

I have a female friend who's level 15 in Metal Gear Online (have knowledge of the game and you'll know what I'm talking about). I got her playing GT5 and she's level 24 and I told her jokingly "don't talk to me unless you're on my level" and mind you she's determined to get there.

The world is full of people (an obvious observation) so if you were to expand your line of sight it shouldn't surprise you in what you see.

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Lord carlos
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 9:48:33 AM

Metal gear online is a hard game!!
Could never get the hang of throwing an enemy to the ground and stabbing downwards.
Kudos to your lady friend.

hmm now i feel like playing mgo
Team stealth deathmatch FTW!

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poisonedsodapop
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 8:10:08 PM

I'm level 14 in MGO. Could be 15 if I didn't quit lol.

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tes37
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 6:23:42 AM
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I like the fact that my favorite hobby isn't considered feminine, but I'm fairly certain that you look like you're participating in a neutral activity while playing.

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Ricochet
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 6:57:04 AM
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Even if the context of video-games are solely "non-feminine" based. I think we are now a point in time, where hobbies can either be defined as "niche" or "mainstream" without as much prejudice - in this case, the female-gamers fall in the former category.

Don't get me wrong. In no way whatsoever I'm a trying to put females as a seperate entity. But if we genrally have to establish a class of distinction, then my point is just for reference.

From the way I see it, the only relevance when it comes to gaming and girls is when there is a marketable aspect attached. Just like TV shows, the more "mainstream" the product is, I wouldn't be surprised to see future games being "feminine" based as long as developers can see that how mainstream gaming can go. And when that happens, age-old discussions on gaming/females would quickly be dissolved.

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frylock25
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 8:32:14 AM
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made by men, for men, approved by men


honestly video games seem gender neutral. just appeals to men more.

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Underdog15
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 8:35:02 AM
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I also think there's a distinction between activities that are inherently "feminine" vs. "masculine". I mean, the entire French language puts ALL nouns into either a feminine or masculine context regardless of whether or not there is any relation to gender or not.

Some sports for example: "football" is masculine in the French language and is preceded by the article "Le". Whereas "volleyball" is feminine and would be preceded by the article "La".

Obviously, both men and women participate in both, but my point is, there is a general understanding that labels different nouns and activities as "inherently" masculine or feminine. It by no means implies only men or only women participate in a particular activity.

In terms of gaming, while there are most certainly many women participating, it is predominately understood as a male hobby. I mean, just look at marketing. HD gaming advertising is almost always directed at the 18-25 year old male. Obviously, people above and below that age play games, and obviously, both men and women play games.

@Ben
You and I both have education in psychology. So think about the psychology of men and women in terms of relationships. Humans are relational in nature, yet, typically, both react to different cues. Men are typically all about actions and "doing", while women excel in "being" or relating. There are of course exceptions, always, but think about conversations... Men typcially ask each other about work or sports as a fall back conversation with another you aren't as familiar with, whereas it's well understood that women are far better at talking about things that matter.

I know in my relationship with my wife, she is far more likely to want to talk about feelings than I am. It's not that I am incapable of it, but it isn't the first thing I think about. I typically concern myself with the financial stuff or the basement reno's we're doing. Women definitely are, at a higher percentage rate, anyways, more into texting and social networking because they are just that... SOCIAL. And in general, women are FAR better at communicating than men (again, exceptions... I know.) and are more likely to enjoy that kind of social networking since women -TYPICALLY- rate their worth on how people view them. Since guys are "doers", they rate their worth on what they can or can't do, and as doers, it should be no surprise that "gaming" is understood as a male hobby, despite the fact there are plenty of women involved in gaming and excellent at it all at the same time.

I guess my point is, that typically, males and females fall into different roles, not because they aren't equals, but because men and women each inherently have their own strengths and weaknesses. I know there are exceptions -ALWAYS-, but as a rule, I'm sure there the percentages support this. So, no, I'm not surprised gaming is considered a "male" hobby, as it most certainly is male dominated. As long as people can also acknowledge that women are also interested in gaming and are very good at it.

Afterall... in Canada, hockey is a "man's game"... in the states, football is a "man's game"... and figure skating is "for women"...and men identify strongly with both sports in general... and certainly both are marketed towards men... as is figure skating or gymnastics to women... but we all know, there are tremendous athletes from both genders involved in all of them.

But I think we all know the percentages.

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Lotusflow3r
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 9:30:06 AM
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Duke has something to say with his new trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=KkmtBdkmlo0

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Lord carlos
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 9:52:58 AM
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Who make the best politicians? Men!
Who make the best soldiers? Men!
Who make the best murderers? Men!

Can anyone guess what game this is from????

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Highlander
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 10:11:21 AM
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I think video games cater to the specific genre audience that they target, neither masculine nor feminine. My wife loves games, but only certain genre. I can quite imagine though certain genre being perceived as 'feminine' by the overtly masculine players of games that stereotypically appeal to masculine gamers. For example, how do you reckon the average (generalizing) first person shooter fan feels about JRPGs? You know those colorful, cartoony games full of characters with girly hair and girly voices?

Perhaps there are genre that appeal more to one gender than the other, there are certainly some specific games that cater more or less specifically to male gamers. Perhaps there are some games, a smaller number than those that appeal specifically to men, that appeal to female gamers.

Perhaps the answer is - as usual - it depends. It depends on the game whether playing s given game (aka video gaming) is masculine or feminine not so much on whether video games as a whole are one thing or the other.

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parasitic
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 11:16:57 AM
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In a way I would agree with this statement, games aren't seen as a very feminine thing, especially when we can associate many ugly stereotypes with it, such as 'sitting around in your pj bottoms, crisps, greasy hair playing games all day'. Now that's obviously not the case for most of us, but this common stereotype doesn't seem that elegant.

I guess there are many games catering for female gamers out there, look how well Facebook games are doing, my mother is now a 'casual facebook gamer'. And so many other girls I know.

I am more into FPS and other games that would probably classify me as a serious gamer. Afterall I am studying computer games tech course, so I have to play a lot and variety of games when I'm not making them. On the course there are only me and another girl so its 2:120 ratio. That kind of shows just how many girls play games, but it doesn't show whether we are boyish or not. I know some female gamers who are very feminine, pretty girls that love console/pc gaming and still have social lifes. I'm sure we can make gaming more feminine for ourselves by wearing skirts, having a glass of rose wine at hand whilst killing in games. Obviously who the hell cares how we look when we are relaxing at home and gaming. It really doesn't matter if the act of gaming if masculine or not, many girls do it very well. It's like cooking, slightly feminine right? But we all love men who can cook us a nice meal :)

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Highlander
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 11:44:04 AM
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A question - regarding gender bias in games, and the stereotypical roles and whether games are masculine or feminine.

In a game where you have a choice of which character to play, or can customize your character's appearance, skills and gender; what constitutes that being a masculine rather than a feminine game? Can the player's choices alter that perception?

I've always wondered why gamers choose particular games and play games in a particular manner. For example, a game like Gears of War. The typical player of that game is supposedly young (teens/twenties) male, heterosexual, and likes action. OK, so, why are the characters in the game so unremittingly masculine? Seriously, given the player, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect lots of scantily clad women with incredible physiques?

Now, taking this back to whether games are masculine or feminine, or are at least in touch with their feminine side. What would constitute a game being feminine? what would a typical female gamer want from a shooter - for example? Would they prefer a male lead character, or female? Would the game still be so action heavy or would there be a stereotypical watering down with associated interior decor improvements?

Seriously, what would constitute a shooter being feminine?

OK, so back to the original musing, when you're playing a game, you are going to spend a lot of time looking at your character in a third person game, and your team mates in a first person game. At very least in a first person game you adopt the character you play. So, would a male gamer always choose a male character? why? Would a female gamer choose a female character? Why?

For me, if I'm playing a game for dozens of hours and have to watch my character for the vast majority of that time, I prefer something pleasant to look at. Call me sexist is you like, but I'll choose the female character every time. So I can feminize my character, but how would a game be feminized? Is the approach take by the player in choosing their appearance or character sufficient to alter the perception of the game?

For example, I played all three Xenosaga games and my party invariably came down to Shion, KOS-MOS and either Momo or Junior (sometimes his attacks were just plain necessary). To me, the game plays very differently with an all female party. For a start some NPC interactions are different, but also the tone of the game changes because you're only hearing female voices, and the attacks are decidedly (especially with Momo) different to the male attacks. My wife first got into JRPGs by watching me play Xenosaga, and today it remains her favorite of that genre. Looking back on it, I don't know whether she would have found it so interesting had I used an all male party - say Chaos, Jr and Ziggy. I suspect not.

So, could it be that games that do not explicitly cater the 'masculine' gaming are sufficiently neutral that the player's choice can alter the perception as to whether the game is masculine or feminine?

All that said, I do use exclusively female fighters in Soul Calibur, but the reasons might not be very feminine - on my part...

;)

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Ludicrous_Liam
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 4:10:10 PM

All women in Japenese games = MASSIVE BOOBS THAT SWAY FROM SIDE TO SIDE! (Depending if you move the controller or not ofcourse...[wonder if anyone get's that...Jawknee this ones for you XD])

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Ludicrous_Liam
Saturday, April 09, 2011 @ 12:53:48 AM

Seems Jawknee doesn't know what I'm talking about so I'll spill the beans.

In MGS4 (Jawk's fav game), when talking to rose, if you shake the controller, see what happens..

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Wissam
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 1:28:43 PM
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Totally agreed. but there are some games for girls.there are few girls playing cod and
kz games. that's some violent girls if you ask
me.lol.

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parasitic
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 4:34:53 PM

Wissam> I swear most girls online do play COD and KZ. KZ2 is my favourite game so far and hopefuly KZ3 will be just as good once I get my hands on it next month. I wouldn't even say they are violent. It's just like prefering a horror film over a chick flick. Besides fps tend to be full of action, it requires fast responses unlike adventure games which may have a lot of action, but doesn't require fast responses. I love twitch gameplay.

Some interesting points were raised by TheHighlander. I noticed many guys prefer female characters in gamers. A nicer picture? Doesn't mean it's a feminine game afterall, however I personaly do find it slightly weird when a guy is playing a female character. It's not wrong though at all. I think by generalising it would be safe to say most females would choose a female character in a game. The whole 'sims' effect, we want our character to represent us. Obviously there are many exceptions to the rule and some women would choose a male character. I know I have a thing of choosing a character that makes it look more like me, or at least represent what I really like in terms of hair colour, clothing and etc. This isn't even to immerse myself in the game so that it's as if I am experiencing everything that the character does.. It's simply the fact that I find it more appealing, also it's almost like I'm programmed to do so. Perhaps the whole barbie syndrome comes in play.

I think most games are quite masculine in terms of characters apart from JRPG. The guys are often bulky, hairy/stuble and sweaty looking. Obviously depending on what game it is, this only adds to the realism. But imagine a sexy long haired guy from JRPG game, slightly feminine physique in COD environment. It would be a bit silly? However if a developer gives me this in the future, I am all for choosing a male character on FPS :D

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Ludicrous_Liam
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 4:06:09 PM
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To be perfectly honest with you, if a girl told me she played games as a hobby I would be some-what surprised. So I guess, to an extent, gaming isnt feminine. Not that it should stop girls from gaming...(y'know just saying, before the pitchforks are out :P)

It's like me putting on handcream. It's not masculine to an extent, its more of a feminine thing (not to say men shouldn't wear handcream..).

See what I'm saying?

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Alienange
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 7:10:26 PM
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Hold the phone! You have NEVER met any women who play games??

You're joking right?

Damn... Something is wrong with you boy!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 8:31:44 PM

No, never.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 11:46:26 PM

Me niether. Well, if they did they never told me of it xD

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Croik
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 10:22:26 AM

If you've seriously never met a female gamer, methinks you've got to get out more!

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Ludicrous_Liam
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 5:24:41 PM

Rather odd assumption. Don't think 'getting out' more will lead to meeting gamer-girls.

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Underdog15
Monday, April 11, 2011 @ 2:44:54 PM

I think it's great that Ben doesn't go out and start a conversation asking girls if they game!

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PharaohJR
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 12:37:22 AM
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LOL GAMING FEMININ HELL NAW. im lookin at it from my aspect & another way that could help me be able to see how it could be considered this & i just cant, not cause of my manhood either.

is playing cards or dominoes wit ya bredrens feminine? is playing board games now or when younger feminine? video games consist of the same elements that board & gathering games have. is playing games considered feminin to those cause it doesnt involve physical contact?

either way it go i have came across some feminin individuals in my life & they either got jus as much or more females than the hard body or koo dudes. gaming is a hobby just aswell as board games or sports. so my aspect of this.... gaming isnt feminin. my idea of feminin is a man who mistakes his idehtity with a woman.

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Sir Pouncealot
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 2:38:16 PM
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"because in all honesty, I've never met any women who play games."

...Do you live under a rock?

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Underdog15
Monday, April 11, 2011 @ 2:45:22 PM

Hmm... do you typically make games a main topic of conversation when meeting women?

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Sir Pouncealot
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 @ 12:33:40 PM

"Hmm... do you typically make games a main topic of conversation when meeting women?"

This implies that you're just assuming that a large majority of women simply DON'T game because you're incapable of bringing it up in conversation.

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evasaur
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 2:49:46 PM
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Though you failed to mention it, the person whom you are quoting is, of course, a man. Which is far more relevant to showing the ignorance of his comment than the fact that he is a gamer.

I'm not sure what's supposed to be so "masculine" about sitting on your ass mashing buttons all day, anyway. Isn't masculinity defined by how many cars you can benchpress or how many buffalo you can kill with your bare hands? But I shouldn't know about brutish things like that, as I really ought to try to be more "ladylike," since it is apparently the 1890s. Let me get out my petticoats.

"because in all honesty, I've never met any women who play games."
Have you tried leaving your house? The constant repetition of "WHERE ARE TEH GAMER CHICKS" is really getting old, and ignorant. I'd feel a lot more special about being some mysterious mystical creature if I didn't personally know at least twenty other women who are gamers.

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Cabalavatar1
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 4:37:52 PM
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Women =/= feminine
Men =/= masculine
Femininity and masculinity are merely social constructions that people perpetuate. It doesn't matter what your biological sex is with regard to videogaming. It -may- matter with regard to your gender identification, however--if you choose to reinforce it.

Unlike Evasaur, I don't find this article offensive. It's investigative, which I most often appreciate. I'm not surprised that Ben asked such a question, because although I agree that videogames are associated with masculinity (or are at least most often played by men), I don't understand why anyone wouldn't find them engaging and entertaining. I also really wish that I knew more women who play videogames; I find it very attractive and would love to have that in common.

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stgclawson
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 7:12:32 PM
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I'm a 41 year old gamer girl!! I'm not a tomboy either - actually pretty feminine! I have been playing sine Atari and I just love games!! I don't see why only guys can enjoy gaming! I love them and don't plan on stopping playing them either. I'll be an 80 year old gamer girl! My mom and sister never got into them, so I was alone in my gaming hobby growing up. I love RPGs the most - especially strategic/tactical RPGs. I also love action/adventure and I will play FPS (COD, Halo, etc) with my 14 year old son and also racing. I prefer the shooting in games like Uncharted, Alpha Protocol, 007, etc. I have every system (PS3 being my favorite (been a Sony fanatic since the beginning). I personally don't know any girls that game - but hey - they're missing out!

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poisonedsodapop
Sunday, April 10, 2011 @ 8:15:12 PM
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I've been a gamer since I was a kid. My mom and sister are also gamers. I honestly don't see how it's not feminine. I don't assign genders to hobbies or tasks. Are female police officers instantly considered not feminine? Are guys who play the flute less masculine than a guy that plays the drums? I get picked on at work for being a "girly girl" but I play shooters and what not with my coworkers. And I work at GameStop.

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Underdog15
Monday, April 11, 2011 @ 2:48:25 PM

For as long as men and women continue to be drawn into certain roles, hobbies, jobs, etc. will continue to have either a masculine or feminine connotation to that.

It does not mean the activities are exclusive to said demographic.



In other words, for as long as Barbies are for little girls, and GI Joes and Tonka's are for little boys, recrational and professional activities will continue to have a gender role steriotype.

It is not, and has never been, an absolute. It's all about percentages.

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Countess1002
Monday, April 11, 2011 @ 3:21:59 AM
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Gamer girls are out there, trust me. I have been gaming since the 80's and haven't stopped. Nor do I ever plan too. I'm 35 now and even my 12 year old daughter games. I never think about if gaming is either masculine or feminine. I love video games and really that's all I think about. Never been into the cutesy games geared towards female gamers. They honestly come across as an insult to our intelligence. But you can catch me on BFBC2 mostly with my boys and girls :)

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