Full Gameplay Trailer For Battlefield 3 Turns Heads
Battlefield 3This year's Call of Duty better be the bee's knees. The competition won't take a drubbing lying down.
Last year. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Call of Duty: Black Ops launched at opposite ends of the year. In 2011, Battlefield 3 and the new CoD (expected to be Modern Warfare 3, despite no official announcement) will likely clash in November. DICE has made a lot of boastful claims about their new title, powered by the excellent new Frostbite 2 engine, but those claims appear to be justified...just watch the full 12-minute gameplay trailer below.
It's just one of those games that should be polished to within an inch of its life; "professionally produced" is a good description. We don't expect much in the way of hitches and glitches (that'd be disappointing), but we do expect a defining shooter that can stand with the best of the best. Better than Killzone 3? Who knows? Maybe. Better than CoD? Perhaps. It'll be a very interesting fall, nonetheless.
Related Game(s): Battlefield 3
Tags: battlefield 3, battlefield 3 trailer, dice
4/16/2011 10:37:21 AM Ben Dutka
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Beamboom
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 10:52:30 AM
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booze925
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:00:23 AM
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this and UC3 are my two most anticipated titles for 2011
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DirtySkillzHD
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:01:22 AM
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CH1N00K
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:07:39 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:09:32 AM
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AshT
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:17:47 AM
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Lord carlos
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:20:19 AM
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As for next gen material?
Its a youtube video so the quality isn't the best but their doesn't seem to be any graphical leap so i say no its not next gen material,just a developer talking up its product which is fine untill you start saying stupid things!
The ps3 could make a better looking bf3 game if it was exclusive imo.
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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:33:59 AM
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booze925
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:45:12 AM
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Pandacastro
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 2:51:14 PM
how do you download this on the ps3? Link?
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booze925
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:47:58 PM
go 2 PS3YOUTUBE and follow the directions at the top to enable HD playback
once u do tht, when u watch a video there should be a download option there
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Pandacastro
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 5:11:12 PM
By PS3YOUTUBE do you mean the ps3 version of youtube?
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dkmrules
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:26:38 AM
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daizycutter
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:38:40 AM
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:48:09 AM
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Textures, lighting, geometric complexity, filtering and resolution will all be paired back. DX11 games are using rendering techniques that can not be done the same way on the RSX or Xenos. There's an outside chance they could do some custom stuff on SPUs, but it's unlikely. Especially considering that a portion of the SPUs are already tied up doing the the threaded multi-core calculations of what the 360 would be doing.
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:51:12 AM
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Imagine games specifically made for PC and completely optimised for it...
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"play.example.enjoy"
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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:59:10 AM
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:10:35 PM
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Wissam
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:11:41 PM
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:59:19 PM
PC version of Mafia is leaps and bounds ahead of the poorly PS3 conversion. Whilst the PS3 could pretty much pull it off, with all the bells and whistles, they didn't bother to convert it or make a decent job of the conversion at all. That is why I never bought the game. Even the 360 version of Mafia is better.
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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Geobaldi
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:28:32 PM
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/05/Another-view-of-game-piracy
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TheCrazyMerc
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:51:33 AM
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Sorry wiping the jizz off my keyboard :P
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Jonesy555
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 6:59:28 PM
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Wissam
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:11:06 PM
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:14:54 PM
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I am sure Sony will up the anti now... they will have to give us hardware that is x4 to x6 the order of magnitude of what we have today, so it could handle BF3 with ease, in full stereoscopic 3D at 1080p for each eye. Its the only way Sony can stay ahead...
As for me... I have to announce something... I am going to purchase a very high end PC to play this game... this game deserves it, and because my rig will be fully expandable, I can upgrade as needed in the future. This game has pushed me onto getting a PC... I needed something and this was the catalyst.
Does it mean I will not use or play my PS3... absolutely not, of course I will still use it as there are some great exclusives to collect still. Uncharted and Last Guardian will continue to show the way for the PS3, but for some games you simply need a PC... it's like playing a movie :)
BF3 is a paradigm shift; like GoW, GT, Heavy Rain and Uncharted were/are... pushing both tech and story telling to the limits on consoles... BF3 will be a game changer in its own right... It will push PC and console developers to start adding those touches of realism that makes BF3 look and feel so immersive... like a film.
Resistance 3 looks a little second hand now when comparing... KZ3 stands firm as the best console shooter, but even with KZ3 tech, BF3 in comparison, adds another dimension to the immersion with its gritty realistic scenes and real-world lighting and shadow casting. It looks ray-traced to some extent. All PC owners can finally rejoice and know their equipment is being pushed. Similarly with Crysis 2, I think the best version is the PC version as well.
Would be great to get Highlanders comments on the video once he has seen it... remember, turn up the volume.
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"play.experience.enjoy" >> BF3 goodness...
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:19:16 PM
Paying a very large sum of money for what may only be a slight graphical upgrade in one game just seems a little silly to me, that's all.
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:34:34 PM
Would I lay down 2k to have BF3 now for it to look like that? Heck no, not right now on my budget. At the most, this vid makes me glad to know whats in store for us console gamers in the coming years. I can wait. And I'll save a load of cash by doing it.
Okay. Back to work.
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:47:33 PM
I wanted a general purpose PC a few years back to do surfing and word processing; and not necessarily having one to play games on it, because the PS3 was promising so much. Therefore I didn't feel i needed an additional machine.
Running Linux earlier on was great as I was able to do everything i needed. The low ram was a frustration, but other than that particular constraint, running Open Office and browsing with FFox was great on PS3 Linux...
As I can't do this anymore on my PS3, using a 9 year laptop for general computing tasks is getting tiresome and slow... so why not take the plunge and go out and get a decent machine?
May as well get it to play BF3 in the Fall, good timing. By the end of the year further improvements to mother boards and GPU's would have been made, so the machine will be top of the line tech and I will spend enough on it to really make it last... at least 5 to 8 years.
A few of my peers have PC; nonetheless, when I show them what the PS3 can kick out they always leave impressed; especially the exclusives.
These guys have 12 gigs of ram on their motherboards and are sitting with the latest GPU cards with 2gig ram. So they are already enjoying real HD gaming so to speak. I will join them at the end of the year - specifically for these types of games which I feel will be developed for the PC platform first and foremost, and then go through the conversion process to "fit" the game onto home consoles.
I would expect the next wave of consoles to be closer to their PC counterparts on release, with much more ram included on the outset. I wouldn't be surprised if some expandability options are also included in some way, shape or form. It may be a closed system, but hardware upgrade cycles seems to be accelerating, therefore adding "expandability" options into future consoles may help extend their lives further still...
With regards to PS3; no way am I giving up on her. There is plenty of exciting things to discuss about PS3 gaming, and we have the best place to do it on the web.... PsxExtreme... so this doesn't change a thing for me... I need a PC and I will celebrate getting it with a purchase of BF3 for it. I needed a real push to make the decision, and this has done it.
BF3 for consoles could look just as good, but all be it, at lower resolutions. Probably sub 720p. I wouldn't be surprised if the shadow casting issues are still present, and that we will see some visual artifacts with environmental and texture pop in (Red Dead Redemption - sigh) and others.
Anyway, with the PS3 exclusives still looking at employing all that Sony trickery, SPU anti-aliasing techniques and advanced streaming technology, we should still see some awesome displays of what the aging PS3 can do...
What else can I say... at least she is aging gracefully...
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:59:32 PM
Personally, I just can't ever seem to find a single PC exclusive I desperately need to play, and nothing I've seen in terms of graphical differences make me want a high-end PC. Maybe I'm just too old to care about the sharpness of a brick in a wall. ;)
Besides, there is a distinct visual presentation difference I seem to notice, in that console games - especially PS3 exclusives - tend to have far better color saturation. Even the best PC titles seem to have this certain sci-fi, almost monochrome slickness that diminishes the richness of hue and color, while maybe enhancing specific detail. There's more to a picture than just intricate detail, after all.
This is why I see Uncharted 2 - and Uncharted 3 - as a cut above anything else in the gaming world, and that includes anything a PC can do. I'm not sure why developers don't use any extra power in a PC to make a more realistic - rather than a more detailed - presentation. Just my two cents on the whole issue.
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:19:22 PM
The one thing that struck me about Uncharted 2, and why it blue my PC colleagues away was that colour and the environment modeling which was so freaking good. But Naughty Dog and Santa Monica are a cut above the rest.
The MotorStorm Apocalypse environmentals are also very good I have to admit... and, happy to report, they have managed to somewhat tame those nasty shadow artifacts the dogged the first Motostorm game. The shadows this time around are smoothed out and blurred, creating a softer shadow masking artifacts far more easily. The engine has been vastly improved.
Uncharted 3 will be a jump from Uncharted 2. This will make PS3 owners believe the unthinkable. It will be one of those moments where you look at the screen and shake your head and say, " is this really a PS3 game". It will be very good, so good infact that people would question why they would ever need to consider a high end PC for some of their gaming... yes, it will be that good... but still, I think for some games, some developers specifically - if one can afford it - it would be great to have the PC option to fall back on...
I am intrigued by BF3 on the consoles... I think it should translate well. If DICE can use each target platforms best features, they could make a cracking game... I fully believe they will pull something out of the bag. What would disappointed me though would be if BF3 ends up being better on the 360 than the PS3... I hope that will not be the case as has been the case for so many multi-platform titles in the past :(
We wait for the first console videos to release... then everything should become much clearer for all of us...
Sony... it's your turn to role the DICE - oO
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"...what out for that ****ing sniper"
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___________
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 3:17:53 AM
DICE arent.
DICE have always been about pushing hardware no matter where its from to the absolute limit.
crytek use to be the same till cryengine 3 was made.
the fact that fans are making better looking stuff on the developers engine then what they are is just pathetic!
how can one of the worlds most talented devs be outmatched by fans?
tis like a ford out lapping a ferrari!
....... oh wait!
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Geobaldi
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 6:35:02 AM
I have yet to see any fan, or anybody else for that matter, make anything as impressive as Crytek has shown with CryEngine 3 in this preview video for the engine. What others developers have done in their games CGI segments, Crytek has done even more impressively in the actual game itself. Though it is too bad that we have to wait for the DirectX 11 patch, which has been confirmed now by Crytek, to see how Crysis 2 was expected to look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeMx1CbQ1XA
And this engine is still in it's infancy.
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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 6:41:27 AM
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Qubex
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:07:41 AM
Exactly what I have been saying about the lack of memory and how crippling it has been... Not to mention what a pig the RSX is...
"GPU side, when programmed properly, they are fairly similar. We just have to be conscious of the clear handicap on PS3 RSX in terms of vertex processing, but other than that, on fragment processing side they are relatively similar, both have their strengths but such differences become irrelevant in the long run, especially when compared to PC platforms," Sousa says, assessing the overall experience of working with the two consoles.
"My finger-pointing at Microsoft/Sony would really be on the memory side. It's way too low, and the biggest crippling factor from a visual perspective. I would really like to see next-gen console platforms with a minimum of 8GB."
...enough said!
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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Qubex
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 9:37:46 AM
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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___________
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 @ 9:17:30 AM
sony went out and spent a bomb developing a new optical medium, spent a bomb on a new architecture, then skimped on the ram.
sure its fast, but whats the point if its so small?
no point having a race car thats 10 times faster then everyone else if it has 100th the size fuel tank!
may be faster, but its going to loose so much time constantly in the pits refiling.
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dkmrules
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:17:29 PM
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:45:48 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:47:11 PM
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:52:51 PM
...and on a PC... no sweat in getting it to run at 1900x1200!
They have the rest of the year to improve it... omg omg omg!
...but I still love my KZ!
oO Reminds me... I need to still pick up KZ3 at some point, haven't got it yet Oo
:)
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:57:44 PM
Qubex, yes but as Ben said most can't or are not willing to spend hundred or even thousands of dollars for a PC rig that can or will run it.
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:07:04 PM
Similarly to the way Sony has been at the forefront of "creating" and "expanding" its market for 3D enabled content to be played, watched and enjoyed on their 3D TV's. People who want to experience it now, have made the effort to trade in their HD 2D screens for HD 3D screens. Did they really need it. No? Could they have afforded it? Maybe? At a push yes, but we would need to sell our existing TV first. Yes?
So in my case, and others, with people needing to upgrade, or people even having thoughts of possibly going the PC route for SOME of their gaming (not all), a game like BF3 may be the catalyst to spur them on.
BF3 maybe end up being so good people may simply say they are not willing to wait for the next console generation and plough ahead anyway and get a PC for general use and gaming... doesn't mean they will not get the PS4. They probably will, as I will; but the PC will go some way in getting you back to the cutting edge while we await the PS4...
Anyway, with imminent announcement of the Wii2 HD, that alone will start getting Sony and M$ to move their butts...
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:13:26 PM
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:17:54 PM
As for PC. yes I think you care correct. I myself am looking into a nice PC rig. Not just for BF3 though. I want to take advantage of Steam more than I have been able to on my laptop. Limit_vertigo picked up Bioshock 1 and 2 for like $5 each I think the other day. They have so many great deals all the time, it's hard passing up on them just because my laptop gets too hot and loud running games. Most games run fine, but it just gets too hot. I want my Vaio laptop last. I think heavy gaming will shorten it's life.
@Jimmy, I do too but with EA's track record, they will not show us much more than what we are seeing now. They showed off Medal of Honor constantly on the PC and when people got it home and popped it into their consoles, it looked and performed like crap. Plus with this game being a multiplat on consoles, I just don't see them "maxing out" the PS3 like most developers claim to do. We'll likely have another Crysis 2 on our hands only this game will be loads better and much more fun to play because...well, it's Battlefield. :)
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:22:30 PM
OH... one other important point I forgot to raise... something that I have to admit has been wanting on consoles...
THE ABILITY TO MODIFY games and expand them with MOD PACKS!
I mean, in the case of BF3 specifically... having the FrostBite 2 engine as its base... can you imagine the USER MODS for this game. I think for these types of titles I get much more flexibility than consoles can ever give me...
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:46:39 PM
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yak4life85
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:47:18 PM
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Really looking forward to this and U3.
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booze925
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 12:52:52 PM
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0_o
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:12:09 PM
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:28:14 PM
The 360 version will probably be 720p, with its unified graphics architecture; and probably faring better than PS3, due to the nature of the multi-platform architectural development environment employed when making this game...
...but we need to wait and see...
Can't get the bridge scene and city battle out of my head. My goodness... and the way that building shudders when he pumps the rocket launcher into it...
I get that butterfly feeling in my tummy, similarly to when I first saw the Killzone 2 e3 trailer for the first time...
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"...move quickly... from cover to cover"
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:33:58 PM
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:43:41 PM
Time will reveal all...
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"watch out for that ****ing sniper"
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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:48:45 PM
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Temjin001
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DazeOfWar
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:42:37 PM
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Qubex
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:45:11 PM
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Frostbite 2 and David Cage... can you imagine it's child?
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"play.experience.enjoy"
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karneli lll
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:55:14 PM
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 2:53:39 PM
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RadioHeader
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 1:56:13 PM
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 2:56:17 PM
I'd imagine most have moved on already.
=p
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RadioHeader
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 3:21:12 PM
Sorry, I know you have a soft spot for the $haft :3
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PorkChopGamer
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:02:51 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 5:07:07 PM
If you have better ideas, it's usually more effective to state them rather than claim they're not doing anything new. Anybody can do that.
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kraygen
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 8:42:33 PM
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 9:26:03 PM
Saying that books using something other than letters is like asking videogames to use something other than TV/pixels to show the game.
Yeah, I'm nerdy like that to even care to make this stupid post.
I am a gamer =p
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PorkChopGamer
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 9:49:06 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 12:42:46 AM
Maybe one of these days you could drop the self-righteous attitude. And the next time you imply that all I care about is graphics, I'm basically just going to flip out. It's insanely insulting but then again, you're good at condescension.
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kraygen
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 3:56:29 AM
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PorkChopGamer
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:50:06 AM
And that is such a magnificent contradiction. I'd expect that if I ever took the time to post on a Xbox or Nintendo site, but not here. Playstation used to be synonymous with diversity. It's why Sony had had such a hard time having a 'face' for their product. You could love any type of game but no one seemed to down you for it. Now, if you aren't impressed with graphic flash and you're not bowing down in front of Uncharted 2(or any other exclusive), your name is mud. I guess that's what happens when exclusives slip from a couple hundred a year to about ten or fifteen.
Anyway, I'm not trying to down anyone. I just give my honest opinion and in most instances, it's in defense of something. Do I think that gamers as a whole should be diverse and willing to try new stuff, no matter they system? Yup and I'll never apologize for that. And if anyone hates my somewhat opinionated posts, fine by me. Remember, any time you see PorkChopGamer to the right of the mighty pic of OhRanger Red, pretend it's not there.
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Temjin001
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 12:14:35 PM
Porkchop, I like your posts and the sometimes against the grain attitude =)
The opposition makes for some interesting conversations.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:46:41 PM
When I say "faster and dumber," how exactly is that referring to the people who play it? It's a description of the gameplay. Typically, something that relies on reflexes rather than any form of reasoning, strategic thinking, or powers of deduction, is indeed "dumber" than something that requires more of a thought process. The faster a game tends to go, the less room there is for thought.
Nowhere did I ever say anything about people playing them being "dumb." And considering I play all the FPSs (and generally enjoy them); the same games I say are absolutely faster and dumber, I guess I'm always just insulting myself. Or, just maybe, it's that reading comprehension problem of yours.
Nobody said you can't have an opinion, and nobody said anything about diversity or variety or some other junk. Nor did anyone ever imply that if they don't like something, they're stupid. That's all in your head, because you have to find a way to contradict me IN EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE.
This isn't you making original opinions and speaking your mind. This is a self-righteous adolescent mentality that absolutely must make an impact by being arbitrary. It's the philosophy that if you go against the grain, you're automatically more "tolerant" and more "enlightened" than everyone else. A whole lot of people post a whole lot of various posts about a whole lot of topics.
And yet, only yours reeks of a ridiculous superiority complex that always says, "I'm better than you and if you say I can't speak my mind, I'm going to remind you I'm better than you." You think it's just me? Do you have any idea how many complaints I've received about you?
I've asked you before. I'm asking again. Knock it the HELL off.
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 4/17/2011 7:48:19 PM
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PorkChopGamer
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 10:50:40 PM
I'm not sure WHAT you are asking me to knock off. If you are asking me not to post anything ever again that is in disagreeance with a news article, I'm telling you now, you shouldn't bet money on that. But if your asking me not to tell people to play games before they trash them, I can quit that, no problem. In fact after this post I plan on never hitting the reply buton again.
As far as people complaining, there can't be that many because I do not post here often and if I do, it's normally because I'm having a debate/conversation like this. I don't go attacking everyone in every post for their opinion. Anyone that says or even implies that, is a liar and needs psych help because they have an unhealthy obsession with this old fella. And what could the complaints possibly be? 'This guy thinks he's better and is preachy because he plays a lot of games' The only post I've made that was pretty stupid was ripping on Temjin (Sorry, Temjin, if you read this) for playing Lost Odyssey. I'll admit fault there because I was wrong. But ANY other post I'll stand behind as my HONEST opinion.
The reason you never see me post agreeing on news articles is because it seems redundant. If you've said it well and the videos speak for themselves, then what's the need? You've never seemed like the type that needs reassurance that he's right or has done a good job, but I can accommodate you if it makes you feel better. And I don't know why you would take it personally, anyway. You're a journalist reporting news. Impartial. We're not talking editorials, because I normally agree with those. Why do you really care if I disagree with something looking great or not? I'm just one anonymous friggin' guy you have never met in your life.
When I'm in the office at work crunching numbers, or ordering new books, or tallying inventory, I'll take a peek, get some news and few laughs from blankguy, post if I feel strongly or have an easy night. I rarely visit any other site besides youtube when my gaming friends send links for gameplay vids. When I'm home with my wife, this site is further from my mind than anything on this planet. So I have no need to put on an act or try to seem like some maverick by disagreeing or going against the grain. To what end? Popularity? I have too many friends as it is(wife says I like everyone.) just from my comic book store, let alone trying to make new ones in internet space. Heck, the only person that consistently gets more thumbs down than me is blankguy. And how is being 'tolerant' an act? I own every single video game system ever made. That may seem self righteous to you, but it's a fact. How many times have I trashed a system or the people who enjoy them(like,xbot)? Never. I'll complain a little about some under supported peripherals(move and kinect), but that's it.
Anyhoo, I'll tell you the same thing I told you before. If you feel that strongly about banning someone, you should do it. And I'll survive. My life won't end. I'll continue to enjoy and love games immensely. I just won't waste valuable work time having these long, drawn out discussions over absolutely nothing. I guess that ain't so bad when I ponder it.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 10:23:19 AM
You know exactly what I mean, and it has nothing to do with disagreeing with articles or other people. It's the tone in which you reply to them that holds the "I play more games than you so I'm better than you" attitude.
If you can't seem to find a way to simply respond to people civilly WITHOUT the attitude, I would suggest not bothering. I don't know why you can't manage to just adopt a civil tone in any post, regardless of subject matter.
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pillz81
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 11:42:05 AM
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Temjin001
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 6:23:31 PM
Not a problem. Water under the bridge my friend.
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Pandacastro
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:07:38 PM
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:09:30 PM
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Alienange
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:18:53 PM
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This video tells me DICE wants us to be wooed by graphics rather than gameplay. BFBC2 tells me this game is going to have screen tearing all over the place. And Medal of Honor tells me the online mp is going to suck balls.
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MadKatBebop
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:16:18 PM
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bigrailer19
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 1:41:43 AM
Or are you?
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MadKatBebop
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 4:05:21 PM
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Aranha
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:21:50 PM
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Even if I could play this on a PC (which mine just happens to have that 12GB of RAM that Q spoke of and 1.5GB Video RAM), I'd still want it for the PS3. Kind of like the PS2, how games near the second half of it's life cycle were blowing people away, I think this game on the PS3 will blow people away. My interest in shooters had diminished in the last few years, but this instantly just regained it. BF3 looks like a contender if nothing else. The PS3 will have its work cut out for itself, but with efficient coding, and a few tricks remaining up it's sleeve, this game can really show what the PS3 is all about.
On the 360 side of things, assuming that even though this is a multiplat, it should still look good, just not as good as the PS3 version. Not hating, but we gotta be real about this: the PS3 is a powerhouse, and the 360, while powerful, lacks the oomph needed to make it's best games look better than the PS3's best.
Now back for round 2 of this lovely gameplay footage...
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 4:26:20 PM
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Temjin001
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 8:15:00 PM
http://www.slideshare.net/DICEStudio/spubased-deferred-shading-in-battlefield-3-for-playstation-3
"This session presents a detailed programmer oriented overview of our SPU based shading system implemented in DICE's Frostbite 2 engine and how it enables more visually rich environments in BATTLEFIELD 3 and better performance over traditional GPU-only based renderers. We explain in detail how our SPU Tile-based deferred shading system is implemented, and how it supports rich material variety, High Dynamic Range Lighting, and large amounts of light sources of different types through an extensive set of culling, occlusion and optimization techniques."
It's very easy to become a member. Create a username and password etc.
Then you download the power point slide presentation. This is a gold mine of info guys. ANd it shows that DICE is taking the PS3 seriously this time. In fact, visually, this game should be as impressive, graphics-tech-wise, as PS3 exclusives. They're pushing a lot of effects onto SPU's.
But don't take it from me. Check out the slides. It's good stuff.
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Qubex
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 3:15:52 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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___________
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 9:59:12 AM
they say by 2015 it should be a reality but thats on high end PCs, consoles wont be seeing it for a while.
think it was on the geforce website.
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Temjin001
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 12:31:20 PM
It would seem they did consider doing a SPU deferred rendering solution for PS3 but because of Crysis 2's very large and open levels it ate up too much main memory for the type of game they were trying to create. This is something I can believe, because in terms of scale, Crysis 2 is fairly open for a campaign FPS.
"It is possible to use the SPUs to support deferred shading, run post-process effects and do triangle culling. But again, it all requires main memory we did not have as our levels are fairly large compared to other games and our SPUs were in fact pretty loaded with particles, animations, physics, low-level rendering and culling already."
Interesting stuff to ponder.
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Pandacastro
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 3:35:37 PM
So there going to actually try to max out the ps3 version?
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Temjin001
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 6:27:22 PM
Well, judging by this information it looks like they're tackling a lot more of the PS3 than the standard 3rd party would. I'd say, PS3-only fans should be optimistic about this one =)
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parasitic
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 7:07:37 PM
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gangan19
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 7:20:20 PM
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kraygen
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 8:47:10 PM
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I can say though that it's nice that some companies are willing to build an engine for a game they believe in, instead of re-harvesting ancient technology and selling it as something new. Sorry, but in the tech industry, an engine that's 5 years old, is ancient.
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JMO_INDY
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 9:23:59 PM
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Kiryu
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 10:00:00 PM
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MadKatBebop
Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 11:12:35 PM
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Kai200X
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 1:11:06 AM
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CrusaderForever
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 1:22:07 AM
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FM23
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 6:05:14 AM
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Qubex
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:08:35 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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FM23
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 10:20:38 PM
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Qubex
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 2:15:16 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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___________
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 3:20:03 AM
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now THIS is a next gen game!
forget all the other games that have come out, this is the first next gen game ever released!
it may be a swede, but take it from me its not a turnip!
a imaginary cookie for the one who can remember who said that, and where its from.
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Qubex
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:09:57 AM
PS4 will be what people have wanted all along...
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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___________
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 9:57:07 AM
wont be out for at least another 2 years, then it takes another 3 or so years to really start to see the system hit its stride.
first though i want to see todays consoles do what they can.
as said the other day theres allot of things todays consoles can do, but have not done yet.
look at RAGE, its got such high textures, heaps of visual effects, looks amazing, yet its in 60FPS!
once we hit 1080P 60FPS with decent AA then ill be ready for new consoles, till then i think its just being wasteful ushering them in.
its like buying a bottle of drink and only drinking half of it and throwing the rest away.
exhaust these systems, then move onto the next.
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FM23
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 6:03:35 AM
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MadKatBebop
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 4:06:22 PM
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FM23
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 6:37:36 PM
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Qubex
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:22:28 AM
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CryEngine 3 is being mooted as a technology that crosses the next generation divide. Crytek says that it's ready for the new wave of consoles that are coming in the next few years, and the firm has an exciting vision for the kinds of visuals we should be looking forward to.
"I'm a strong believer that we should already be at Avatar quality in real-time, but the mass market (not everyone has the highest end cards or CPUs for example) is significantly delaying this next step," observes Tiago Sousa.
"The transition to a new console generation that is far less memory-bound, will allow for less painful QA/maintenance of PC assets versus console assets from an art perspective. Ideally, you want to have the same asset everywhere and not have artists making custom assets, or even levels, for specific platforms."
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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___________
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 9:52:51 AM
theres nothing stopping crytek from giving us everything they can, but they seem content to dish out a game of lower specs then there 4 year old game!
the fact that crysis has higher textures then crysis 2 is just pathetic!
the fact that crysis a 4 year old game uses a newer API then crysis 2 is just dumbfounding!
only thing stopping PC games from "avatar quality" is lazy developers!
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Jonesy555
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 7:06:37 PM
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CoolBLKguy
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 8:52:47 PM
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FM23
Sunday, April 17, 2011 @ 10:21:51 PM
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CoolBLKguy
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 1:09:10 AM
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Nick Maim
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 12:23:52 AM
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Nynja
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 12:07:04 PM
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Temjin001
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 6:21:54 PM
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=p
Last edited by Temjin001 on 4/18/2011 6:25:12 PM
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Lairfan
Monday, April 18, 2011 @ 7:00:32 PM
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PharaohJR
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 @ 5:04:30 AM
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am i the only 1 who thought this look like a modern day KZ?
COD i dunno.... its only a matter of time befor somebody realises ya faults & executes on them & this is a solid move for BC.
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Temjin001
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Saturday, April 16, 2011 @ 10:50:16 AM