Sony Issues Update On PSN Outage

big6
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:28:47 PM
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These clowns at Anonymous are really starting to piss me off!

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RobiinzZ
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:32:40 PM

Same, it all really is just pointless

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big6
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:41:54 PM

I think they're extra mad because their April 16th Sony store crash event wasn't nearly as successful as they were hoping.

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Looking Glass
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:53:35 PM

@big6

I think you're putting it too mildly. From what I hear that so called event wasn't successful at all.

Last edited by Looking Glass on 4/21/2011 12:54:33 PM

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RobiinzZ
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:56:48 PM

Yh i heard that hardly any one turned up for any of them, lolzz.

I also read one guy went to the event and ended up buying a bravia TV xD

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coverton341
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:12:14 PM

<rant>
I really like how they have made public statements going to great lengths to say that they aren't targetting the gamers and will find other avenues of "attack" on Sony that doesn't interrupt the consumers because it is the consumers rights they are fighting for. Yet, all they have been able to successfully do is cut off consumer's access to features that we bought the system for....the very thing they are "combatting" by attacking Sony.

So, they are fighting Sony for taking features away from us, the gamers, by preventing us, the gamers, from accessing features....

DOES NO ONE SEE THE IRONY!?!?!one!!!eleven!!

I remember when Anonymous actually took a stand against things that mattered and things that actually did infringe on the rights of individuals, now they are alienating people for the sake of not being able to pirate games under the guise of "great justice"

</rant>

That is, to say, if this is because of them.

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:17:48 PM

I read some of them ended up buying a Bravia. Haha

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sonic1899
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:20:01 PM

You know what the irony of it is? They claimed their reason for taking action was because Sony "Stuck it's hand in the hornets nest." Sony only pissed off the hackers and pirates, but those guys were pissing of EVERYONE. Apparently THEY'RE the threat to gaming freedom, not Sony and their DDOS attack is more than enough proof.

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coverton341
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:24:33 PM

In all honesty, them buying bravias goes to show that this isn't really about "Sony" per se. It's about not being able to pirate games and being shut down pretty effectively. I personally don't agree with Sony being given lease to gather any IP address that visited George Hotz's website or youtube channel. That being said, I'm not going to go out and make it a point to throw a temper tantrum and shut people out of the network.

If worse came to it and Sony did use those IP addresses to target individuals for accessing the website or youtube channel, there are a number of reasons why it would not legally hold up in court i.e. no reason to attack Sony since in the end they can't leverage that info against the people who did visit.

The whole reason for collecting the IP addresses was to get the trial set in a place favourable to Sony

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Clamedeus
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:44:54 PM

I heard that Sony only got the IP's of the people to see if they actually did wrong with the source material from the site, not just because they visited the site.

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Highlander
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:31:38 PM

1) Sony did not get the IP addresses, their attorney's did.
2) the sole reason for obtaining the IP addresses (and other discovery) was to establish jurisdiction in the Californian court.
3) Any other use of that information gained by anyone, or the passing of that information to anyone inside Sony for any other purpose would have been met with the full and very nasty force of the law.

The people behind this kind of hing have no great principles, they are simply rebellious kids with an ax to grind against the world, and they decide which laws they wish to obey because they are anonymous and feel invulnerable to the consequences of their actions.

Truly, if anyone is acting beyond the law it is the hackers and anonymous, and if anyone should be feared, it is the hackers and anonymous. They are criminals and should be treated as such.

</rant>

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:37:22 PM

Amen Highlander.

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Alienange
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:50:57 PM

@ coverton341 - LOL I loved your "one/eleven" joke. That's friggin funny man.

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jaybiv
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:16:15 PM

Should I ever be fortunate to meet a member of this group I am going to greet him with a forearm shiver to the chops! What a bunch if Internet gangsters.

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Imagi
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 5:42:23 PM

So, do we know what the actual cause is yet? or are you all just blaming the hackers because they are the default reason/excuse for all the shortcomings of the PS3 these days.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 6:15:21 PM

People are blaming the hackers because the group came out and said they would attack the PSN as recently as a couple of weeks ago. PSN goes down again today mysteriously, why wouldn't people blame them?

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Imagi
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 4:28:33 AM

So that's a yes then. I will wait to hear the truth before I join you lot marching with flaming torches and pitch forks.

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Qubex
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 5:33:43 AM

Anonymous have repeatedly stated that they are not the source of the attack and are being used as scapegoats. People logging onto their IRC channel have been banned apparently, for asking this because they have already said they are not the source of the attacks.They are pissed off too...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 7:55:34 PM

Qubex, Anonymous has no regard for the rule of law and have shown they are not to be trusted. There's no reason to believe anything they say. They could be denying any involvement while still attacking Sony behind the scenes in an attempt to avoid gamers wrath. Just because they say they are innocent doesn't mean they are telling the truth. They have no credibility.

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Ole_Gunner
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:30:21 PM
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On the release day of Portal 2 which sucks for me! I was so excited about the using Steam on my PS3 but now I can't.
Why should we suffer because of Anonymous is idiotic beliefs towards justice!?! Grrrrrr

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:32:57 PM

Because that's how narcissists operate.

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Gimmedat
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 2:30:44 PM

This is BS,I just formed a KZ3 clan on gamebattles .com.Now we cant even play as a legit clan at the moment,Iam all for beefing up the security ASAP.

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kraygen
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:37:11 PM
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I just got access to Infamous 2 UGC beta and I can't do much with it because of the network being down. =(

Oh well, thankfully I still have a crap ton of rpgs to play.

Still want my network back though.

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slugga_status
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:44:52 PM
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Sony needs better security for their network if this is the "hacking" issue again. I hope it isn't but one to two days certainly isn't maintenance..Oh well..more MK practice time for me

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:49:05 PM

This is so annoying. I agree they do need some better security. Hackers or not, this is getting ridiculous. How am I supposed to slay some insurgents on Socom with this nonsense going on for a couple of days?

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:50:21 PM

Indeed. It shouldn't be this easy for an outside party to disrupt their services.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:58:27 PM

It honestly makes my blood boil thinking of those pimply faced punks that is "Anoyomous". Once you remove their keyboards and computer screens and their "anonymity" and "power" is taken away, they all become a bunch of asocial losers who can't adopt to real life situations or problems.

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Underdog15
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:16:36 PM

It's not necessarilly "hacking".

My sister once ran in a beauty pageant. My uncle wrote a program that automatically kept her ahead in the voting for "people's choice awards". She won. lol

It's not like he hacked the server. He just kept feeding it data. If you're aware of how to send data and demand data from the server, you could theoretically write a program that just overloads the servers to the point of crashing by forcing it to give priority to all reqests at once.

Hacking would mean they actually have access to the private servers, which is likely not the case. It isn't really server security so much as it would be writing better code for filtering out bogus requests for receiving and accepting data.

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slugga_status
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:18:52 PM

Well I blame this on black hat hackers. I'm getting ready to take my CEH (Certified Ethical Hacking) certification test..so not all are bad..

In this case though I'm sure these hackers gave away the "how to" so to say if this is not the same people. You'd think Sony would've improved the security of the network after the first fiasco a few weeks back.

Last edited by slugga_status on 4/21/2011 1:21:48 PM

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slugga_status
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:28:57 PM

@Underdog

What your Uncle did is indeed hacking. Hacking just doesn't involve getting into a server. What you're Uncle created is a virus, trojan, or worm.

Sending data to crash a system is a computer crime of Denial of Service. Writing a program to do so makes is hacking.

For Sony to keep taking the PSN down lets you know these "hackers" gained access to the Sony servers. Which is extremely likely. Just as the Pentagon network has been hacked twice in the last 6 months. Not really too much coding involved in networking..They simply need to secure their network with different security b/c as of now..it looks like the "how to" is out in the hacking community

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BeezleDrop
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:49:56 PM
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Hey Kraygen I'm in the infamous beta as well, my Id is MOGUNS82, I'm working on an assassination mission right now called "Cole's Creed" add me when you can so we can bounce back ideas on missions. If your up for it, and when the network is back up of course.

Lame news that I pay for PS+ and I cannot even connect. I actually started getting this error when I attempt to install games, it stops at 14% then gives me an error code. Now I cannot download any games in the background.

Last edited by BeezleDrop on 4/21/2011 12:50:44 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:51:44 PM

Are you signed in? I can't even get on.

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kraygen
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:38:12 PM

I can't sign in at all, I hit sign in and it automatically tells me I've been signed out.

I can try to add you and see what we can come up with, but I haven't gotten a chance to even see how it works yet, so I might need a little time to get acclimated.

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P 10 Gaming
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:51:26 PM
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They claim to be helping out gamers but how are they helping me if i cant pwn noobs online now? Not WINNING!

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Miggy
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:55:10 PM
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This should be good for me. I have 15 games I still haven't beaten. I've spent most of my time on the Killzone 3 multiplayer. Now I can try to complete those others.

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Wissam
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 12:56:47 PM
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So That's why I couldn't sign in.hmmm. I wonder what caused this.

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Looking Glass
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:01:01 PM

Well you know, one poster on the official blog just stated that according to N4G and various twitter posts the network downtime has something to do with Japan.

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frylock25
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:00:57 PM
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i was signed in as i had my ps3 on since last night. only when i reset my ps3 cuz i couldnt figure out why i couldnt get on. i was on modnation racers and started thinkin i had been banned or something lol. i didnt do anything but leave it on all night in the lobby. i fell asleep. anyway, now i cant get on. to find out it might be a few days is not cool at all. we probably wont get an official word on what happened either. it will just be "its fixed".

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maxpontiac
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:01:02 PM
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Wow. Glad I am at work.

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kraygen
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:39:54 PM

well unless you'll be at work for a day or 2 I am afraid you might also be effected. lol

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Ludicrous_Liam
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:02:09 PM
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Ah...I feel stupid now. I damn near broke my controller getting fustrated while trying to connect. Fu*king hackers honestly, I hate how they BS saying their the good guys, whats all this then?

My friend just invited me into a chatroom to say he got Infamous 2 beta (I share accounts with him). I was like OH HELL YE-nnnnn arggGHHHH! :(

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Looking Glass
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:03:21 PM
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Hey everyone. It's probably worth noting that one poster on the official blog just stated that according to N4G and various twitter posts the network downtime has something to do with Japan.

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Lord carlos
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:32:50 PM

I heard that individual severs were taken down in japan eg. MGO & FF14 online to conserve energy due to the earthquake & sunami but i don't see how this could effect europe & north america!!
But you could be typing about something different.

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:44:29 PM

Carlos, that's true but MGO and FFXIV were already restored. So I read. I haven't tried to get on MGO in a while.

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big6
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:19:08 PM

Them taking down the MGO and FF Online servers to conserve energy in Japan was within a week of the quake. They've all been restored for weeks now.

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Lord carlos
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:52:25 PM

Thanks for clearing that up guys!!

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Bloodysilence19
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:13:25 PM
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for one i really don't think its anon hacking the psn again, cause they said they would stop. if they are doing it again all its doing is really pissing off the gaming community making them hate those guys more. psn being down is mostly likly due to home 1.5 and steam hopfully being integrated into psn finally

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Looking Glass
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:18:34 PM

That's possible. But on the other hand those anonymous bastards have no credibility.

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big6
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:21:15 PM

If it was a legit reason, then the PS Blog would give us that reason. Like, how hard is it to say, "we're down for maintenance due to integration with Steam and Home 1.5"
Instead they're just say it's down for "maintenance"...as in securing firewalls or something.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:46:10 PM

@Bloodysilence19

These guys are hackers. I wouldn't really trust anything they say. Their credibility/trustworthiness can really only be determined by their actions. So, it seems we've got a good picture of how they work.

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Fane1024
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:18:21 PM

Plus, they aren't really so well organized that one voice speaks for all of them.

I think it's possible that Steam or Home 1.5 may be the cause, but it could also be the case that an attack was meant to ruin the launch of those services. Anonymous hasn't taken credit, though.

The good news is that people are blaming them regardless of whether they're responsible or not.

Did anyone else get a friend request from some random person just before they lost the ability to connect to PSN?

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Lord carlos
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:13:27 PM
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I'm usually pro life eg.dont squash insects or spiders if i find them in my house,i just gently put them outside.
But my sith lord anger gets the best of me when c**ts start f**king with my video gaming time and my pro life philosophy goes out the window instead!!!
If this is infact the work off hackers then the streets should run red with their blood!,or atleast make them feel the full weight of the FBI's boot on their throat.
As my favourite fictional dictator said
'Wipe them out,ALL of them!'

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DjEezzy
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:14:47 PM
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i bet COD fans are flaming right now. LOL. Glad i have Fight Night Champions and Portal 2 to hold me over. No netflix though. That blows...

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kraygen
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:43:34 PM

I've still been able to use netflix actually. I just click on netflix, it asks me to sign in, it says I've been signed out, I hit circle and netflix has loaded up anyway.

A couple of times after watching something when I tried to start something new it would start to load and then just stop and I had to reload netflix again, but then it worked fine.

Give it a try.

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Arvis
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:38:44 PM

Yep, Netflix still working for me, and honestly that's all I care about right now.

-Arvis

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:17:31 PM
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I thought Anonymous issued a statement saying that they'd realised their attacks were hampering the enjoyment of consumers and so they would stop. We know though that they have no honour. Even so, how would Sony be able to predict how long the attacks would continue?

I think that Looking Glass may be right here based on those tidbits of information.
Peace.

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:19:41 PM

There was still a group that claimed to be an offshoot of Anonymous that said they didn't care what the heads where saying and were going to do what they wanted. They were the same criminals that were going after Sony employees and their kids I believe.

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Looking Glass
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:22:08 PM

@Lawless

Whatever the case may be one really shouldn't believe a single word those anonymous bastards say.

Last edited by Looking Glass on 4/21/2011 1:23:14 PM

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Looking Glass
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:27:01 PM

@Jawknee

Well, that's the thing about anonymous. They're not a real organization or group. Hell, they don't even qualify as a movement. They're more like a bunch of random strangers that just happen to like to hang out in the same room. This is probably one of the reasons why their attempted protest was a total failure.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:40:24 PM

Considering there is no real authority amongst them, a general statement means nothing if any of them are still feeling an urge to be destructive. I guess we'll just have to wait for any further developments to see what comes of it, or the real reasons behind it.
Peace.

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 12:52:56 AM

Anonymous is a collective of loosely associated groups of malcontent-ed morons and some actual smart people. It's right hand literally doesn't know what it's left hand is doing because there is no single command and control channel or structure. Just a bunch of self deluded fools that think they are fighting the good fight - instead of breaking the law and hurting regular people.

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 1:34:47 AM

Sony's prediction may be based on technical requirements to restore certain server functionality or put in place additional network safeguards. It's an estimate anyway, not an absolute. It depends on what is happening and why.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:41:33 PM
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Maybe it's just the addition of Steam.

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 1:45:31 PM

Ha, Steam actually works quite well. I synced my with my PSN account beautifully. Even showed my Steam avatar when I paused Portal.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 7:04:35 PM

Maybe the sheer number of portal 2 purchases overloaded the system.

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faraga
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 12:47:15 AM

Maybe the PSN just needs time to blow off some Steam!

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Bugzbunny109
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:10:11 PM
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Great! When I have time to actually play Killzone all day, duchebag hackers want to hack PSN. My day just gets better and better...

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RadioHeader
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:11:13 PM
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i want kill ppl @ KZ3 :(

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big6
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:24:44 PM
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Someone should introduce Anonymous to GIRLS.

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kraygen
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:45:55 PM

That's actually a great idea, they would be so freaked out and not know what to do so they would just freeze.

Problem solved no more hacking, all of psn saved by girl power. lol

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BikerSaint
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:48:51 PM

Big6,

Someone should introduce Anonymous to...."MY FISTS"!!

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The Doom
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 5:35:59 PM

Didn't Geohot have a girlfriend? Even so, I seriously doubt any female companion would stop a hacker.

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BikerSaint
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 11:51:05 AM

The Doom,

I heard geohot actually has 6 girlfriends.....

Mrs Palmer....and her 5 daughters

(or 12 if you count both hands)

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:24:57 PM
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I just had to sign in to comment on this one. It annoys me to no end that the consumers, like everyone here, have to get the bad end of the deal when it comes to others' stupidity and hacking. I'm not one to make too big a deal of things when PSN is down due to normal network issues, (I had my PS3 for about a year before I was actually able to get on PSN) but when it's down because of these clowns, it gets me frustrated. When they claim they're trying to help gamers, they're only making themselves look like hypocrites with acts like these.

Also, like a few comments that I read above, I agree that Sony does need to bump up its security. If these guys can get through this badly, it's a wake up call for the rough edges of the security to be shaped up. It makes me really sad to hear this because I made my first inFAMOUS 2 UGC beta mission last night, and was looking forward to coming home to see what ratings I'd gotten today. Two days isn't what I'm complaining about so much as it is the hackers I'm complaining about.

Yeah, sure, everyone likes free things, but time to grow up and give up the hacking. Come on.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:38:57 PM

Well said. Unfortunately these losers are on a power trip. And as much as it affects you and I, it also costs Sony lots of money. Money to fix the servers. Money to pay employees to work round the clock to fix the servers. And loss of sales from the PS Store while the network's down.

Last edited by jimmyhandsome on 4/21/2011 2:39:21 PM

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:42:35 PM

@jimmyhandsome

Even more reason for this Anonymous group to be treated as criminal hackers. They aren't helping anyone at all, even themselves. They're just lowly thieves, defeating the purpose of the cause they're fighting for and taking money out of others' pockets. It's just a vicious cycle that'll end up biting them right back in the very end.

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slugga_status
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:46:43 PM

There shouldn't be too much money spent to correct the issue actually. Unless they take down all the servers and bring in brand new ones but even then they'd need to fix the security. Sony needs check their ports and configuration settings and go from there.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:28:06 PM

I admittedly don't know much (anything, actually) about hacking or network servers, etc, so I don't know how much money it's costing Sony. But you have to think they are losing revenues if only from the Playstation Store being offline. I'm sure whoever that is doing this knows that it's costing the "big bad corporation" $$$.

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Danny007
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:25:10 PM
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So much for wanting to play the Portal 2 multiplayer today. :(

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Highlander
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:33:16 PM
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One last thought. This kind of action confirms every one of Sony's statements against hacking and homebrew and it all goes to re-enforce Sony's stance on hacking and their efforts to increase security to prevent this kind of thing. Well done Anonymous for making Sony's points far better than they ever could. Morons.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:35:51 PM

:Clap, clap: Very well said, Highlander. Amen.

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kokoro
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 2:13:51 AM

Morons is way too nice of a word to describe them.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:48:41 PM
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On another note, I'm hoping their hacking won't permanently harm PSN. I'm sure that if that happens, Anonymous will have a hell of a lot more to deal with than just a crippled company.

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Alienange
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 2:59:28 PM
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Oooor... It's a Sony ploy to get the internet up in arms against Anonymous. The old we're-under-attack-let's-turn-the-tables-on-them trick. Sony goes public basically saying they don't know what it is and it could take days to fix and everyone blames Anon. Brilliant if you ask me.

Let's face it, Sony spanked Geohot. Maybe they know how to deal with these clowns too?

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Ludicrous_Liam
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:09:33 PM

OMG!! CONSPIRACY!
Alienage...common. 0_o

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:09:39 PM

I doubt it. Two days without PSN is lost revenue. Not sure they would be willing to risk all that lost revenue just to make a point.

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Alienange
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:19:49 PM

Maybe, but it's going to cost SOMETHING to defend themselves regardless. No?

Anyway, Sony's statement certainly leaves me feeling that they don't have a clue what the problem is. And that's usually a bad thing.

And hey, are the xbots celebrating anywhere? I haven't heard that "Live is the best" rant in over two years.

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Fane1024
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:25:07 PM

I saw a few such comments on Joystiq (e.g., PSN is free, so it sucks).

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:40:07 PM

I'd be alot more p*ssed if it were XBL that I couldn't sign on to right now. PSN is free, so I have no ground to stand on by being mad at Sony for not being better about fixing the problem or communicating what the problem is to its customers.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:07:26 PM
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Oh no, GlaDos has finally taken over the PSN.

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frylock25
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 7:14:30 PM

"you should have made that left turn back there"

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Excelsior1
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:09:43 PM
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no!!! 2 days is forever. aren't there ways of stopping these attacks? how hard is it to isolate where these attacks are coming from? maybe highlander can answer. sony needs to increase its security period. they know they are a target now so it falls on them to get the network more secure. a dns attack should not able to knock out a network for 2 freaking days. i was so upset about this that i called sony but they played dumb and told me to check every hour. 2 days?? what did these hackers do, go in there and physically remove the servers?

Last edited by Excelsior1 on 4/21/2011 3:22:48 PM

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sha4dowknight05
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:17:24 PM
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I told you guys!!!!! I can't get on without troubles. The only way I can on is by signing in an out without it letting it reach th error code real fast then it lets me on!!!!!!

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:37:49 PM
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Kids these days... Bunch of hypocritical douchebags if you ask me. You know making an entire world of gamers pissed doesn't make you cool, it just makes you a douchebag, but I'm willing to bet it's a server error from where SONY runs it's online services. I read something about Amazon being affected too for a short bit so it's quite possible it's not Anonymous or Geohot.

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 3:53:24 PM
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Its probably _______ on here that did it (Anonymous) since we tease him so much, he's getting back at us!!!

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Jawknee
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:01:51 PM

Ha!

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Fane1024
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:26:35 PM

LOL

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Ludicrous_Liam
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:36:40 PM

Well, we haven't saw him on this thread yet...you don't think...nah. (Nervous laughter)

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Lord carlos
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 4:50:59 PM

That be some funny sh!t :)

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frylock25
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 7:16:09 PM

LET JUST LYNCH HIM ANY WAY CUZ HE USES THE SAME NAME!!

ha ha that was a good one though.

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shadowscorpio
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 12:49:37 AM

Gawd. I needed that. That was probably the funniest thing I've heard all month. Where is __________ anyway?

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DirtySkillzHD
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 5:30:50 PM
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These anonymous guys better watch thier backs on the streets

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 8:13:53 PM

How will you know who they are? I mean... they're anonymous.

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The Doom
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 5:39:28 PM
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B-But guys. Ananyomus are your friends. They're fighting for your freedom. I mean, sure they're damaging the industry by supporting piracy, being hypocritical and depraving gamers of their online experiences, allowing hackers to unbalance fair online gaming, and targeting families of the Sony employees, but that doesn't mean...

...yeah I hate these guys.

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PSTan
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 5:56:06 PM
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Most people who are fighting for Anonymous's "cause" generally have no idea what they're fighting for. They're a bunch of pack mules being exploited, and it gives them a sense of power that they've never grasped in their miserable lives. Those that do know what Anonymous stands for are delusional. They're hurting the majority for the sake of their own pride, and refusing us privileges by justifying that they "have" privileges that were "taken" from them when Sony sued Hotz.

Sony, if you really wanted to get rid of any problems to PSN's security, I suggest installing a "Kratos" security program. I've heard it's one of the best ways to keep out the haters and hackers :)

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daconverse
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 6:28:10 PM
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this is the reason why id rather have blu ray disks. whats that one game thingy? where its all downloads steam is it. at least we can still play with out internet. i did call sony and they said they dont know when ot will be up and running again.

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Jonesy555
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 7:13:55 PM
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Finally got me a 3D tv and was going to rent Tron 3D on PSN tonight... well, that's not gonna happen tonight. Thanks Anonymous!

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Excelsior1
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 7:37:23 PM
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i don't think its anonymous. they take credit for their attacks, and have denied being part of this. what a freaking mess. 2 days is just ridiculous amount of time for a network to be down. sony, please tighten up that network security. millions of gamers are counting on you. these attacks will probably continue and should not be able to knock the network down for 2 days.

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 12:57:15 AM

At least two groups have acted for 'Anonymous' one claims to be the real Anonymous and frowned on the attacks on PSN, the other was willing to target Sony's execs and families on a personal level. Are you really saying that you think Anonymous is well enough organized and controlled that it can prevent unauthorized operations by some or many of it's members? Sorry, I don't believe that for a moment. Nor do I believe that they have any control over what goes on. I think in some ways that Anonymous is rather like a migrating herd of wildebeest who're stampeding. The lead bulls can lead the general direction, but have to keep running forwards to avoid being over-run, so they haven't actually got a lot of control. The herd almost acts with a mind of it's own, despite the best efforts of those at the front. In the case of Anonymous, the collective's leadership labelled Sony as targets, and now the collective is acting, the leadership has precious little direct control over what happens next. It's the nature of the beast.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 7:53:09 PM

Besides what Highlander said, these people are criminals and have no regard for the rule of law. That's obvious. Why would you believe anything they say?

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mid10smaradoarg
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 7:37:44 PM
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If this is because of the hackers i hope that their computers burn in the next attempt

Last edited by mid10smaradoarg on 4/21/2011 7:38:33 PM

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bluedarrk
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 9:16:56 PM
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You know the psn being down blows but single player socom is fun. I'm just getting tired of hearing all the 360 fan boys running their mouths.

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 1:37:01 AM

You could always remind them that their paid service has it's own shortcomings, and was offline for more than a week - without external interference...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184221.html

Or you could simply walk away.

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Excelsior1
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 5:15:04 AM

yeah, they are using this as evidence that psn is crap becuase we are too cheap to pay for it. they claim their network has NEVER had an outage.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 7:50:18 PM

Ha, too bad in 2008 LIVE went down for 2 weeks and that wasn't even the result of an attack. It was MS's own incompetence.

Oh, Xbots sure do have selection memories.

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Bloodysilence19
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 9:31:29 PM
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everyone it wasn't hackers it was a problem over in japan, that ko all of psn. japan maintenance is working on it right now, so it probably was the energy/electricity that was ko out over there near sony. playstation_rls tweeted that today

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 12:58:12 AM

PSN uses regional authentication servers. The US and European websites and PSN servers do not depend on Japan at all.

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Bloodysilence19
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 2:47:28 AM

@thehighlander im not saying your right or wrong. im just saying what playstation_rls tweeted thats all.

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:18:03 AM

SCEE has publicly said that there is interference from an outside source. That is a roundabout way of indicating some kind of attack. I read the report from PlayStation_RLS as well, but SCEE has been more public and definite.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 7:51:10 PM

No, Highlander is indeed correct. If there was a problem in Japan it would not affect N.America or Europe.

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LightShow
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 11:05:08 PM
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good thing i was gonna splitscreen portal 2 anyways this weekend. cant imagine folks wanting to play either portal 2 or MK online are too thrilled...

Last edited by LightShow on 4/21/2011 11:05:24 PM

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BikerSaint
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 11:33:14 PM
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Hmmmm, I'm not tech-savvy but maybe it was a case of too much too fast?

I'm thinking maybe something like an overload blackout cause we did get SOCOM, Portal, MK, a update in Home, plus Steam's integration about the same time.

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playSTATION
Thursday, April 21, 2011 @ 11:52:45 PM
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no psn means no trophies so guess i shall watch some blu ray movies

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Beamboom
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 4:51:39 AM

New trophies are stored locally and synced with server later so not a single trophy lost while playing offline. :)

Last edited by Beamboom on 4/22/2011 4:52:15 AM

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dillonthebunny
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 5:15:59 AM

you still earn trophies with the psn down... surely? I have been.

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frylock25
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 2:52:23 PM

trophies do NOT need network support. some people like to sync every trophy, some like to hide 30 or 40 trophies then sync it. if they dont go to the network no one knows you got them.

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Fane1024
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 5:39:18 AM
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Apparently, Sony accomplished something: I'm no longer getting the error message, though PSN is now "currently undergoing maintenance".

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frylock25
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 2:47:58 PM

hopefully they did more than just change the message so far.

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Roach721
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 6:21:49 AM
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This is horrible,I just got my copy of Dragon Age 2, at Ebay. For just 35 bucks sealed,new and now I can't reedem my codes or download the demo to unlock more items, so I refuse to play it yet but seriously I am missing my network. This isn't funny anymore.

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parasitic
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 6:55:33 AM
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This has been going on for a week now. I can get on my online account fine, but my step-dad who's using my ps3 at the moment can't get online for a week now. It's ridiculous. I really hope they fix this soon, Easter holidays is about gaming when time allows.

I don't know if it's the Anonymous group, don't really care. All of their statements are complete bull poop :)
I just don't understand how someone with great skills in programming and similar have so little common sense and disrespect to others.
Once they're all put to jail or something, my PSN life would be so much better. I support the industry by buying games, afterall it's the industry I want to work in a few years.

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Highlander
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 12:05:57 PM
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One quick question for Sony.

Why aren't you communicating with your customers? We're into day two of what appears to be a global and near total outage of the PSN service, and your customers know less than nothing. If, as reported, there is a total outage in the SCEA and SCEE regions, whee are the public statements and updates of the status? A couple of brief blog postings by SCEE isn't doing anyone any good. Tell us what the heck is going on will ya!?

SCEA in particular seems totally mute these days unless they want to sue you. Did Kaz leave? I mean really, what happened to communicating with customers?

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frylock25
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 2:17:21 PM

as always when they have something to say they will tell us, and not until then sadly. i have a feeling the network will be back up before they say anything. then they will just say its up and nothing else.

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shiroxkatsuya
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:22:12 PM
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its not the fact that its down that really bothers me, its how in the dark we are. does sony really not have an idea what is going on?

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