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Forget It, Square Enix...I Don't Want A FFVII Remake

I've waffled on this subject but then again, I'm entitled...it has been a topic of conversation for a long time.

At first, I hated the idea. I stuck to my guns by saying it's sacrilege to go and mess with perfection; to needlessly overhaul what may be the most perfect role-playing game in existence. Then, after being introduced to the wonders of high-definition gaming and seeing "Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children," I pulled a complete 180 and suddenly craved the remake. I figured that if they only put a shiny HD coat on the game without touching the actual gameplay, it'd be amazing. Don't add anything; just maintain the greatness of the game at all costs and make it visually stunning. I assumed that was well within Square Enix's capability, and the fans would love it.

But now, I feel the bottom line is this- they've waited too long. FFVII is too old. I'm sorry, but it is. In order for the gameplay to appeal to an acceptable number of younger gamers - acceptable to warrant the project's existence - they would have to do away with the archaic turn-based mechanic. I love it to pieces; the hardcore fans love it to pieces, and there are younger gamers who might also love it to pieces. But look at the direction this industry is going: faster, faster, faster. It's all anyone seems to care about. Square Enix would not be able to help themselves; if they did a FFVII remake, they'd mess with it. I'm convinced of that now.

In which case, just leave well enough alone.

Tags: ffvii, final fantasy vii, ffvii remake, ffvii ps3

5/8/2011 9:31:53 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (122 posts)

Kiryu
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 9:53:18 PM
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I don't want a MGS Remake or a FF7 Remake.

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:15:14 PM

I believe a MGS remake collection is a fantastic idea, with Kojima behind it's helm. If anything bonuses will be tacked on to an already great masterpiece. He would make it better.

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gangan19
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:27:06 PM

peace walker on ps3 i what i want

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:41:25 PM

That would be pretty sweet. I'm actually looking forward to Rising now.

Hey, any port in a storm.

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gangan19
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:01:48 PM

eh...rising might be upsetting to hardcore mgs fans....content might get cut. cause of a certain console.

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kitsune451
Thursday, May 12, 2011 @ 8:44:55 AM

I would kill for a MSG Trilogy remake. Not because the graphics are bad (in my opinion), but because the controls suck so much ass. If I could get a MSG trilogy with MGS4 graphics and controls I would buy it in a heartbeat.

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Pandacastro
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:02:58 PM
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Ben (or anyone here), if you were to decide to remake any game which game would it be?

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DazeOfWar
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:08:06 PM

Thinking about it I would like maybe Jet Force Gemini or Eternal Darkness. I loved both games and could just imagine how crazy ED could be nowadays.

One game series I would like to see finished is Advent Rising. It didn't get great reviews but I thought the story was amazing.

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MartyRules
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:11:29 PM

Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2+ all the side stuff like birth by sleep

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Riku994
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:18:11 PM

Legend of Dragoon.

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hellish_devil
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:20:29 PM

OKAMI!!!!!

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mexgeo86
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:27:14 PM

Legend of Legaia

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SayWord
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:28:27 PM

That would be awesome if they remade jet force gemini! As for eternal darkness and legend of dragoon I'd rather see a sequel.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:30:09 PM

Castlevania: Simon's Quest

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Sancho
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:33:01 PM

Both Shenmues and the third one to complete the trilogy.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:20:28 PM

I hadn't really thought about it, but remaking both Legaia and Dragoon would be awesome.

I also like the idea of a FFVI or Star Ocean: The 2nd Story in HD.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:27:58 PM

I want a Syphon Filter H-D collection.

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Riku994
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:48:58 PM

Ben, haven't we talked about a remake or sequel/prequel to LoD before?

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:17:21 AM

XENOSAGA with the turn based combat *intact*.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:30:24 AM

I don't remember. Probably. :)

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Scarecrow
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:29:45 AM

This was asked before, but easily Thousand Arms for me. Still the best rpg I've played.

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ColTater
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 11:51:33 AM

Psi-Ops.

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Miggy
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:02:57 PM

Legend of Legaia and Legend of Dragoon definitely. Legend of Legaia was the first rpg I ever played. Also I'd remake the Double Dragon games. Any of them; I love old school brawler games like that and streets of rage etc. I spent hours with my cousin playing them on the sega genesis. Battletoads and Double dragons still gives me trouble to this day.

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DazeOfWar
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:04:55 PM
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I don't need a FFVII remake either. I myself don't think it was the best one anyways. I would rather see a new FF the old school way.

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Stabs88
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 5:11:39 PM

I would LOVE to see a remake of FF8 but i agree with Ben. Its been too long for them to just "remake" any of the FF's for PS because they are going to mess with it.

Here's to dreaming *sips corona*

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tes37
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:07:09 PM
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I think SE needs to be remade.

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Milonakis
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:49:30 AM

It's called squaresoft, you hurt it's feelings when you bundle it with SquareEnix

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tes37
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:25:00 AM

Squaresoft is gone though. I was trying to keep in the realm of possibility. There's still a chance for SE.

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hellish_devil
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:10:02 PM
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Besides of all that, it wouldn't appeal the masses (i.e the west) because of how Cloud looks. Just look at what they did with Nier, Japan got the original design of the main character, a young, typical JRPG boy, but SE said "No, for the west we need a tough-looking guy" and forced Cavia to change the main character, and we got the "other" main character.

Also, look at Capcom, they did it with two of their biggest franchises. As far as I remember, Chris Redfield wasn´t all that big in RE1, but for RE5, he was all muscles, suspiciously really GearsofWar-like. And then they ask Ninja Theory to change the look of Dante, to make the complete opposite of what he used to be. We'd be lucky if SE used the Cloud model of Advent Children.

And after seeing what they did with FFXIII and Front Mission Evolved, it is better to keep FFVII as is... and the whole Squaresoft library too.

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SayWord
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:13:38 PM
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I still think there is a huge market for turn-based rpgs. Just look at how well the final fantasy games sold on psn. The majority who didn't buy probably didnt because they still own the physical copy. In sure that's millions. Shame they don't realize.

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:18:30 AM

There is a market for turn based games, it's just not the primary demographic that game companies are targeting because it's typically older gamers.

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ryu
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:14:58 PM
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I...

I...

i don't know what i want anymore... sob...

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eLLeJuss
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:19:36 PM
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Yeah. I don't think it would appeal to the next generation now that gameplay mechanics have evolved so much.. but meh...

FF7 remake will still come. I know it..

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Riku994
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:20:40 PM
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While you're right Ben, you tend to be psychic.
They'll probably announce the remake at E3 or TGS, push versus back for another 6 years, and disappoint everyone when FF7 doesn't even feel like FF7. "Wtf is materia? We use Crystarium now" Cloud: "..... I don't even WANT to be in this game." Yuffie: "W..What is this?"

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:34:40 PM

haha

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Victor321
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:24:37 PM
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S-E not doing the remake would be good for them, as they've announced and currently have more projects in development than actually releasing them.

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gangan19
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:28:18 PM
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if they do end up making a and hd version, be sure to see it on the xbox also

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:31:25 PM

I believe that Sony owns the rights to FF VII in America.

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gangan19
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:35:33 PM

still? even for the remake...?

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:38:06 PM

honestly? I have no idea of American copyright and trademark laws. they change so much. lol.

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gangan19
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:55:11 PM

very true

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:59:58 PM

hopefully the Highlander can set us straight.

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:23:43 AM

Sony owned the North American publishing rights on FFVII in the US for the original release, I think they did when the PSN version came out. It's still SEs game, but Sony owns the rights to publish it in the US. I don't know whether that would extend to a remake since that would essentially be a new game. The PSN release of FFVII was just a repackaging of the original game after all, so the rights didn't change.

A newly remade game would re-open negotiations on all of that.

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gangan19
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:30:30 AM

lol he did set us straight lol

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main_event05
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:12:21 AM

haha, I think the next big poll will be: Does PSX Rely on Highlander Too Much?

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:44:09 AM

Nah, the better question would be does Highlander rely on PSX too much....

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:28:45 PM
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Just cause Ben wrote this article, A FF VII Remake will be announced next week.

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Riku994
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:29:58 PM

I know, right? I mentioned that in my comment above.

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:32:28 PM

hahaha, I didn't see that, I usually post my comments right after I read the article but before I read the comments.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:34:41 PM
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I think it COULD be done right, but I agree that SE wouldn't be able to help themselves from ruining it with some kind of actiony battle system that sucks chocolate donkey balls.

It's terrible too, when something so classic and perfect isn't good enough to keep around anymore because of an unfortunate trend in gaming.

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gangan19
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:36:31 PM

ill have some sam adams summer ale with those donkey balls :)

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Douchebaguette
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:47:03 PM
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Squaresoft are no more: they were the requirement of making a great FFVII remake. The funny thing is, Squaresoft would probably be too busy making aurifying games instead of MMOs and misdirected experiments; Square-Enix have already milked FFVII enough to turn it into a separate franchise, distorting everything about the characters and the story, music and design enough to a miserable degree.

Could they ever recreate that exact aura? Doubt it. The prerendered backgrounds alone is one important feature that would .automatically. be considered implausible nowadays. The outdated sound engine they used that helped define the overall feel and flow of the game would be no more. Whether the remake would be great or not is a different story.

Bluuerggh.

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Fane1024
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 2:33:04 AM

RE: 2nd paragraph

That's why I don't see how they could even make FFVII with current, HD graphics like AC. The original is SO outdated graphically and the gameplay is SO tied to the presentation that I can't imagine a game that is both graphically new and faithful in terms of gameplay or feel.

It's the same reason why SRPGs all still look like Tactics Ogre.

If all you're gonna do is up-res the old art assets, why not just leave it as is? It wouldn't come close to looking like AC or something like Uncharted.

I can see a game that tells the same story using current technology, even with a modified sort of turn-based combat, but that likely wouldn't make the fans of FFVII happy.

It just seems like a lose-lose proposition to me, even if I thought S-E wouldn't drop the ball.

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newchef
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 10:59:24 PM
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the only game im actually craving a remake, is Crash Bandicoot, i miss it so much...it would be perfect if they took the same route as the new Sonic game did and just made a newer, prettier version of what made those games great

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:00:45 PM
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Has any game every actually been remade to current specs? I've seen new graphics and stuff but I can't think of an honest to god up to date remake like movies unfortunately get.

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Douchebaguette
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:04:52 PM

Mortal Kombat is a remake of sorts.

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main_event05
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:05:27 PM

I was thinking that too. but even then it's still kinda terrible.

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Douchebaguette
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:11:27 PM

Actually I find the new MK to be an excellent remake [of sorts]. Boon & Tobias know what the fans want.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:23:53 PM

That's a reboot, a little different.

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PorkChopGamer
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 4:27:23 AM

Tobias had nothing to do with the reboot...

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Douchebaguette
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:46:30 AM

Damn.

Just wikied this. How did I not know this. Mah baaadd.

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Alienange
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:21:32 PM

The two Monkey Islands.

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Dreno
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:08:04 PM
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Ahh the ff7 remake. For as long as I've heard people talking about wanting an ff7 remake, I've been one of the MANY other people clammering for an ff8 remake.

And I would still love an 8 over 7 remake.

But after rfeading this article, I agree with you ben. 100%.
They would mess it up. Theywould think they had to change elements of gameplay to match that of the interests of these "faster dumber" gamers. And that would seriously piss me off.

Infact, there is only 1 thing abput ff8 that I wouldn't mind changed, and that's the draw system, junctioning was fine, I liked that. But I didn't so muc likethe fact that you had to draw EVERYTHING unless you had the items to refine the spells from, and even then you needed to have x amount of the items to get x amount of spells.

S-E, itsprobably best if you just left gems like 7 and 8 alone. And let them go down as is in gaming history.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:26:28 PM
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I know a true to life FFVII remake would be too much to ask, but how about an HD FFX with the lips synced up to the voices? Maybe even X-2 as well, in anticipation of XIII-2.

That would be truly epic, XII was okay, but for my money X was the last game to have that quintessential warm and fuzzy FF feeling about it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:35:11 PM

I'd love it all...but I just keep thinking they'd mess with the gameplay. In fact, I know they would. Morons.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:01:04 AM

I would personally prefer half the team work on Final Fantasy Vs XIII and the other half work on an FF VII remake.

I'm not overly interested in XII-2 or FF XIV online, and while I'm sure there's a hardcore following who would care, I wouldn't doubt that many feel the same as I do.

Instead of focusing so much on building other Final Fantasy games and saturating the market, why don't they focus on new numbered titles (XIII, XIV and XV) as single player PS3 exclusive excperiences (thanks to 360, we now have XIII-2 containing cut-out content) and perhaps FF VII and FF VIII remakes for the PS3 in 1080p?

I fail to see their logic in it taking longer than making a new Final Fantasy game, which is what they're doing now, unless they're saying their old titles were so good that modern day standards can't compare. I mean, the script is there!!! The story is written!! It's done!! The environment art is there, they just have to render it in 3D, which might take some time, but will be totally worth the effort!! The character models are complete!! Simply copy and paste from Advent Children and spend several months programming actions and dialogue to fit the game!!

It just makes so much sense to do a remake!! Why are Square being such idiots this gen?!?!

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Red 5
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:27:46 PM
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Hi:

Hehehehehe, it seem that Our Friend Ben was playing FFVII trying to found another "unused scene" of the Game.. Well, I haven't played from Start to Finish FFVII yet but, every time when I RE-play FFVI, the experience is just BEAUTIFUL. My niece really loves to play Disney's Aladdin and The Legend of Zelda - A Link to the Past (both for SNes). I believe that a game like FFVI could be AMAZING in a Remake. By the way, FFXIII wasn't THAT good and PS3 owners still have hope for FFvsXIII to be an EXCELLENT Game. FFXIII is "faster" enough for this generation but, It doesn't sell well, isn't? Maybe, maybe a Remake of FFVII could be what you and a LOT of people want.. even for the "new" generation of gamers.
Red 5.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:34:42 PM

No, I've been playing FFIV.

But you really NEED to play through FFVII.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:49:52 PM
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Sorry Ben, I for one would still love to see one, contrary to popular belief.

Final Fantasy VII was all about the story, and it was one helluva fantastic story!! As long as the materia-system of the original is still in place, Instant Action would not be too bad. A button to strike with your weapon, a button to cast magic, a button to block temporarily, free-roaming around the enemy for strategic positioning, and perhaps a pop-up pause menu allowing you to select other magic types or abilities like GF's and items, along with swapping weapons or magic types while the action is paused.

I know it sounds a lot like the style of Dragon Age, but with a hi-def graphics coat, the materia magic system the same in the menus and the exact same story and script (with a revision of the lame script moments from 'comedic' characters), it could still be recognised as the FF VII everybody loved in the first place!!

Instant action and combat for younger audiences, with the ability to pause and cycle through weapons, magic, abilities and so on similar to the original game for older nostalgic players. Keep the menus similar to the original (except with a little more polish and character head models instead of the anime drawings next to their stats) and HEY PRESTO!!

I agree with many of you though, FF VII is my all time favourite game next to MGS, Uncharted 2, Sonic 2 and Mass Effect. Changing it would be borderline sacriligous.

But hey, incorporating the best features of other games in combat while maintaining the materia system and story for the fans would be fine by me.

(SPOILER ALERT!!!)

In the end, don't we just want to see the rising of Ultimate Weapon and the destruction of Shinra Headquarters in Midgar in 1080p HD? With the airship shaking around, Tifa's boobs bouncing everywhere and Barret diving to catch her? In 1080p?

Or the death of Aeris by Sephiroth's blade, and Cloud shaking in despair and fury with the EXACT SAME dialogue that was in the original? In 1080p? "Aeris!! This can't be real! SHUT UP!! The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean a thing! Aeris is gone. Aeris will no longer talk, no longer laugh.... cry.... or get angry.... My fingers are tingling... my mouth is dry... my eyes are burning!!"

Just seeing that nearly brings tears to my eyes. To see that scene redone with Advent Children graphics, in 1080p, in full, same as the original with all dialogue intact....

That would be my dream come true...

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:40:06 AM

Ah, Aeris' death again. Now I'm a sad Highlander....

;)

Aeris' death in FFVII is the only time an event in a game has been powerful enough to stop me in my tracks. I've never played past that point in the game, and had forgotten until I replayed on the PSP, and ran into the same issue - again.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:01:03 AM

And that battle thrown at you when you are at your emotionally weakest, Sephiroth's monster, Jenova mutated if I remember.

First time I played through that, I nearly died in that battle, even though it wasn't a tough boss, I was just too affected by her sudden death. And I was only 13 years old!!!

Same thing happened with me Highlander. I stopped playing every time I came to that scene, it almost felt like I couldn't go on without Aeris. She was dead. The world was doomed. She was the last Ancient, and she was gone forever.

Cloud's words could not have described the pain of her death any better.

I am yet to see a game where the player becomes THAT emotionally attached to a character. No other game has come close to making me feel the way I felt playing that scene.

The music and sound direction was incredible too, I think that along with Cloud's script made the perfect combination of a truly powerful moment, albeit, the very first emotionally powerful moment in a video game.

I guess all that put together is why it's gone down in history as the greatest video game moment. First time people played it in 1997, totally unexpected and far more powerful than by today's standards. Just goes to show you that fancy graphics and realistic physics can't make a great game by themselves. Today's gamers addicted to CoD have no idea. I miss the slower pace of the games of yesteryear.

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Mog
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:26:43 AM

Yep, the music is one of the most powerful aspect of final fantasy. I just went to 'Distant Worlds' a few weeks ago. I strongly recommend any final fantasy fan to go at least once in their life.

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:46:50 AM

Indeed. For me, Aeris' death killed the game, it killed part of the reason I was playing the game. I didn't, and still don't, see any point in continuing the game past that point, there's just no fun in it.

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kraygen
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 3:36:13 AM

I have to disagree highlander, Aeris' death was the best thing about that game. No other game has ever left me so emotional. I cried when she died, because I loved her character.

It made it feel, really feel, something about a video game. Moving past that moment was about helping the rest of the team make her life and her death have a point.

I loved her character, but her death in my mind is the single greatest moment in video game history.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:25:17 AM

You finish the game because that's what happens in life, horrible things happen and yet you go on.

In the game you can wreak vengeance on Sephiroth and of course go on to see WHY she had to die.

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Jawknee
Sunday, May 08, 2011 @ 11:58:53 PM
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Amen Ben. Amen. No need for a remake. They would most likely ruin it. If any remake must be made, a graphical HD upgrade, much like they did with FFIV for the PSP or NGP would suffice.

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marcusfrommo
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:50:07 AM
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I would say, please stop with the ff7 remake chit chat, but, BUT, could you believe if there were seriously talking about making or making a ff7 for the ps4?

AS for sequels or remakes, I would say "the mark of kri," "rise of the kasi," heavenly sword 2, and both maximos with move support.

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Fane1024
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 2:53:40 AM

Rise Of The Kasai had such potential for greatness, but it seemed like Sony rushed it.

A remake with drop-in, drop-out co-op and a proper set of commands for AI-controlled partners (D-pad), plus better camera control would be awesome. And that art would look great in HD.

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SuMtOnE
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:56:19 AM
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Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger foreals HD RM PLEASE

speakin of those 2 games, can't waitil they release it on the PSN so i can DL it n replay my childhood memories =)

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Mog
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:04:43 AM
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Sqaue enix..... Meh. Sqaue soft, HELL YEAH!!!

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PorkChopGamer
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 3:09:56 AM

Broken 'R'?

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Mog
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 4:21:27 AM

Yep

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Dancemachine55
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:11:32 AM
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I think I can summarise the PERFECT remake that would be less time-consuming and expensive for Square-Enix.

1. Keep the static backgrounds of the original, but just improve their art style or up their resolution to 1080p

2. Replace the polygonal design of the in-game characters with Advent Children style characters in a higher resolution.

3. Smoother but similar characters movement and actions from these new better looking in-game characters.

4. Keep the conversation text bubbles of the original, no need to re-voice everyone.

5. Recreate all the FMV sequences in 1080p 60fps hi def with similar flare of the original but new and better lighting effects, particle effects and character detail. Same direction, better polish.

6. Have it as both a download on PSN or available on disc, and allow it to work on both PS3 and NGP.

7. Instead of MIDI music playing in the background, use the updated orchestral score from Advent Children and update other musical scores from the game to make it sound even more incredible. Use the same musical scores, but use orchestras instead of MIDI.

8. Update sound effects to hi-def 7.1 surround that give a better sounding pop and more realistic sounds than the MIDI sounds of the original. Actual gunshot sounds, real sword swishing and impact sounds, make it sound like a modern game.

Simple points that update the look but keep all the mechanics and gameplay of the original. I think points 1 and 2 are the most significant, as it will save recreating all environments in 3D, thus saving a lot of time and money.

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main_event05
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:15:52 AM

yea, stick with the bubbles, cause the voice acting in Advent Children was God awful. It was so cheesy, I hd to pop in RE just to hear Wesker say, "Don't open that door!". lol


(maybe it wasn't the acting but the script, but either way)

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BigBoss4ever
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:29:48 AM
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sorry, but I don't want faster faster and faster, and I don't follow the direction of the industry which is completely hi-jacked by shooters and dominated by those heavy equipped bulky brutes.

i do take games out it when i see good ones (Uncharted, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rains...)in today's industry, if not, i play old classics and play it till the end, i can play turn based old school classic jrpg until i die, period, i don't have to follow the industry to the least. sorry industry, but that is my truth.

back to the topic, if a FFVII turn based remake, then it is more than welcome, if it remakes into the FF13ish or FFv13is fast pace this gen Squeeex junk, then forget about it and i am not sorry to the least to say it will suck.

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Scarecrow
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:34:04 AM
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You know what's worse they would actually shrink towns and tell us it would take too long to render them.

They would really ruin everything that made FFVII great.

Barrett would turn from a funny bulky dude into a strong and serious guy. Cloud would go from being heroic in a quiet/shy way into an assertive and OVERLY heroic hero*

^That alone would really ruin Cloud's original appeal. He was never truly heroic, Aeris MADE him become the hero that he later became. He was inspired.

Anyway Square-Enix is dead. I hope Level-5 can mold White Knight Chronicles into a legendary series. Or at least I hope they take over the jrpg genre and completely replace Squeeenix.

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Highlander
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:48:48 AM

If the Aeris/Cloud dynamic changed one iota, t would kill FFVII.

I'd be happy with Level 5 making it big. Perhaps they can deliver some more JRPG goodness in addition to White knight?

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Lotusflow3r
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 7:45:08 AM

For new, Second Land? Looks 10x better than WKC.

Don't forget existing L5 franchises like Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, Latter Dragon Quests, Professor Layton, Jeanne d'Arc.

Some of them titles defined RPG on their according consoles. Layton being a AAA title for DS.

They may concentrate on DS more, but with just two consoles they chose to work on, DS and PS, they have delivered a body of work vastly outstripping that of Enix and well on the way to matching SqSoft.
Second Land on PS3 will be the one that puts it right beside SqSoft and looks to be the best JRPG of the gen...and even IMO, possibly a top 5 RPG of all time.
Lofty expectations, but i'm very confident, given the extraordinary trailers.

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Cole
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 2:08:50 AM
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At this point ,I honestly don't care. It's just been one letdown after the other with Square this gen..Even if they did release an FF VII remake, I'm sure they'd find some way to mess it up.

I don't get it.. The games they've released on the DS and PSP have been great for the most part. It's just the stuff on the home consoles that suck..

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 2:17:32 AM
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I beg to differ. I could be an old man on my death bed and still want a FF7 remake. Obviously assuming it would be done right and keep all the main plot points of the original.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:02:54 AM

And if they changed the combat to something like we had in FFXIII...?

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shadowscorpio
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 2:34:55 AM
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Ben I agree. I no longer have faith or confidence that Square/Enix could possibly do a FFVII remake properly. I've believed this due to there track record this gaming gen.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 2:52:50 AM
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'And then, from the very back of the room, a tiny voice piped up "I do." The people turned to stare in wonder at the soul brave enough to utter those words, thinking perhaps that he was mad for believing.'

I've heard everything that the people on this site, and indeed the internet over, have had to say on the state of Square-Enix, the legendary quality of FFVII and the disappointment of S-E's latest console offerings. I myself have begun playing through FFIV, and am sore tempted to try out FFX/X-2 in the near future, if I can cut my PS3 backlog (which is more than possible, given my newfound desire to buy only those games that I anticipate most, rather than adding a constant stream of new games to my collection) way down. So far, I'm definitely more invested in Cecil and Rosa than I ever was any of the characters of XIII, and I'm only about four hours into the game.

I know that FFIV isn't the best indicator of FFVII (and believe me when I say that the day I get back on PSN is the day that I get it, and play it with breaks only to do what is necessary), but as I mentioned before, the battle system from IV to XIII has simply been refined. Sure, it has been sped up somewhat, but that isn't actually a bad thing. Needing to work out your enemies has less of an influence in XIII, and that's saddening, but I definitely need to delve into IV more in order to get better acquainted.

I suppose I'm saying is that I trust Square-Enix to actually be able to do FFVII justice. Sure, they may make changes, but I do believe that it will be an improvement. If Nintendo can improve (based on what I've read from hands-on previews) one of the best games of all time in Ocarina of Time, then why should we doubt S-E? It may not be the same company, but they know the legacy that they created, and I'm sure that they will respect that and all the fans. Come on S-E, prove that Ben can indeed be wrong ;P
Peace.

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Mog
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 3:04:13 AM

Lets just hope a sqare enix staff member reads your comment. :)

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kraygen
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 3:42:00 AM
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I guess in truth what you say is accurate, because in all honesty we've never really wanted a "remake" more like a make over.

No I don't want SE to turn FF7 into some button mashing, squeaky voiced hero's, twitch loving, nightmare.

I would still love it though if we all got what we truly wanted from it. FF7 with advent children graphics.

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PorkChopGamer
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 4:20:17 AM
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I'd really love to see all this Square hate be over and done with. It's becoming dull. Their games have left an indelible mark on this gamer. I'll never take that away from them. I don't know if I'll ever completely understand their situation, but it must be a horrible thing to watch Japan become increasingly irrelevant in the gamers' hearts and minds unless it's from Nintendo. They, like Capcom, are trying to do all they can to survive in a WORLDWIDE market where game production costs continue to rise. I'm not sure why people are clamoring for new systems where the costs are even higher. I don't think that higher production costs and the steady drop off of unique titles are mutually exclusive.

Yeah, there have been growing pains and a few missteps, but I have to have faith that there is a light for Square at the end of the tunnel. I have to believe that.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 1:29:34 PM

"They, like Capcom, are trying to do all they can to survive"

And their brands have suffered severely as a result. That's great that they left a mark on you. They have left a bad taste in the rest of our mouths. You are in the minority.

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___________
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 4:34:57 AM
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only remake i really wanna see is a RE, R&C, DMC, spyro, crash bandicoot, MGS, syphon filter, J&D, GTA, the getaway remake.
crash and R&C are my most wanted though.
though were already kinda getting a crash remake in the crash HD a fans doing with a cry engine 2 mod.
so id pick R&C.
but if your going to remake them, you have to completley redo the graphics.
not like what the collections have been, i mean create it with the ACIT engine.
if your going to redo it, make it look like a brand new ps3 game!
1,2,3, gladiator and both PSP titles, looking like ACIT would be freaking awesome!

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main_event05
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 7:38:00 AM

not asking for much are we?

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Dancemachine55
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 9:22:49 AM

Wii got a Res Evil remake, so I suggest picking up a Wii for that. It really is good.

As for the rest... you're being pretty picky. When you come back down to Earth, then you might see that a Ratchet and Clank HD Collection is sufficient enough. I thought the God of War Collection was fantastic, even if the textures were from last gen.

You gotta be realistic about these things. The FF VII remake I pointed out above using upgraded static backgrounds, character models from Advent Children and an orchestral score to replace the old MIDI sound effects was a far more realistic portrayal of a remake that I would gladly accept.

As for redesigning an old game completely using a totally different engine, voice actors and the whole shebang, that's a massive risk from a financial standing point.

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Lotusflow3r
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 7:48:28 AM
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I remember saying this about two years ago on another FFVll Remake news item and getting bombarded with negativity lol.

Never have, never will agree with a remake.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 9:25:51 AM

That was then, this is now. Many people have changed their minds since that FF VII tech demo on the PS3 in 2006.

I'll never forgive S-E for that. Teasing the fans by dangling the sweetest lolly pop in the world on stage, then taking it away and saying they will never get it.

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Lotusflow3r
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:04:49 AM

I wasn't tempted in the slightest. I just marvelled at the example of what the PS3 can do as was the purpose.

Never would have wanted a remake.

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Underdog15
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 9:59:33 AM
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Ben, Why do you fear Square Enix?

Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering.

If you fear a FFVII remake, you will become angry once it is announced. Soon after you will begin to hate SE and all they have become. And once released, you will know only suffering.

Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.

Embrace the remake.

Oh, I'm afraid once your friends arrive, the remake will be quite... opperational!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:03:46 AM

See? Evil. ;)

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Deathb4Dishonor
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:25:03 AM
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Hmmm Ben, I'd still like a FFVII remake if square enix doesn't change anything... And mayb the new younger gamers won't appeal to it but there's million of FFVII fans out there that would buy the game if they were to make it... I'd say it's prolly the only game that would beat Call of Duty franchise in sales since it's the only other game with a large enough fan base...

But only if square enix leaves it the same and just does it with advent children graphics... Blows my mind just thinking about it... But if squre enix was to start changing things about the game like gameplay, then i want nothing to do with it

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Underdog15
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 11:09:43 AM

I don't think it's bigger than CoD, unfortunately. I think it's better, but it isn't bigger in terms of a fan base. FFVII sold just over 10 million, which is more than any other FF. And the PSN sold another million or two. CoD has that nearly doubled with every entry it's had the last couple years.

Not saying that's fair or right, but it's the way it is. I also think that says alot about the audience video games truly appeal to.

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Fane1024
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 7:18:29 PM

"Hmmm Ben, I'd still like a FFVII remake if square enix doesn't change anything..."

They already made that game. It's called Final Fantasy VII. The great news is you can play it right now.

(If you don't want anything changed, why do you want a remake?)



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trinichinese
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:48:34 AM
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A metal gear solid remake would be great i welcome the ider and not just a hd remake but a complete rehall of the game as how they did mgs4 can u picture that seen that we replayed in mgs4 going back to that base we played in metal gear from ps1 days
but with mgs4 graphics and menu system that story remains the same but the control would be like mgs4 with the menu system like part 4 smarter ai its not imposable to do they have the tech

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godsdream
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:53:36 AM
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I tried to think that way several times, but the feeling of "I want the remake so bad" always comes back, and then comes back the opposite: "If Square Enix do the remake, they'd screw up big time by modifying it and making it multi, thus limiting the remake awesomeness". So yeah, that is my cycle for the last several years.

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coverton341
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 10:58:59 AM
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Ever since the PSN went down I have been doing nothing but playing FFVII and trying to get it to 100%. As close as possible anyway, and I am with you Ben. I don't think I would like a remake nearly as much as I loved the original game. Best to let this dog lie I think.

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CH1N00K
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 11:41:59 AM
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I would still like a FFVII remake, but not by SE...Maybe have it done by a developer who is actually a fan of the game instead of just a fan of the dollar sign.

Give it to someone like Level 5 or something, since they actually seem to enjoy making a descent rpg.

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Fane1024
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 7:23:25 PM

"descent rpg"

Got mountain climbing / skiing on the brain? ;D

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Alienange
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 12:28:21 PM
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It does boggle the mind that SE would remake nearly every FF except the best ones. Something tells me they'll come, but as you've made quite clear, who's going to care? A few here and there no doubt, but if they DON'T make any changes, and it's just an HD version of where we've been, I'm pretty sure I don't care either. It IS too late.

What I WOULD take though, is a FFVII sequel. Oh yes I would!

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kitsune451
Thursday, May 12, 2011 @ 8:42:52 AM

Well the only ones they've truly "remade" have been FFIII and FFIV for the DS or FFI, FFII, and FFIV for PSP. The DS games have horrible 3D graphics though and the PSP remakes are just beautiful artwork. Remaking FFVII would take a colossal amount of time because it's quite long and remaking it with PS3 graphics would take quite a while.

My problem however is that while they've been making all these other games (Dissidia, Dirge of Cerberus, Crystal Chronicles) they could have easily taken FFXIII's engine and made a FFVII remake. Would the amount of time it took be worth it? Well if it was worth it to make FFXIII I sure as hell hope it's worth it to remake FFVII.

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Nas Is Like
Monday, May 09, 2011 @ 11:43:18 PM
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This is crazy talk, Ben. Do you know how much of a profit Square Enix could potentially make if they remade FF VII?

But I don't want them to make it for the profit, I want them to re-make it for the satisfaction of many gamers/fans of the game out there. Myself being one of them. I've played a lot of differnet games before, and FF VII is still my #1 favourite.

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kitsune451
Thursday, May 12, 2011 @ 8:38:35 AM
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This is nonsense. Square Enix can easily turn FFVII's gameplay into something similar to FFXIII and while retaining it's superior story and Materia gameplay. I would personally love a 3rd person camera and seamless battles for FFVII. If anything, gameplay needs a revamp just as much as the graphics do. As long as the memorable characters and awesome story still remain, Final Fantasy VII is by all means ripe for a remake.

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Arukugatari
Thursday, May 12, 2011 @ 6:03:18 PM
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I want a Gaurdian Heroes remake,with more than 6 possible endings.And none of that GBA crap they made instead =/

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Senergized
Thursday, May 12, 2011 @ 6:18:01 PM
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Yeah your probably right oh well stick to the PS one game

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Omnipro
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 7:23:14 AM
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I'd rather have a FF6 remake.

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Underdog15
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 2:16:17 PM

How about a Xenogears remake?

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MASierra
Monday, May 16, 2011 @ 6:30:16 PM
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I agree. FF's have gone downhill since Square Enix has taken over. If the game were to be touched, touch only the graphics. But knowing SE, they would change things and ruin the game. My guess is they would change the materia system and make it more like Crisis Core's materia system, which sucked!

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