Sony: PS3 Has No Overheating Issues With L.A. Noire
L.A. NoireYou may have heard about the overheating issues associated with L.A. Noire.
At first, it seemed to only be happening to older PlayStation 3 models (original 60GB and 80GB machines) and furthermore, due to Rockstar's wording in an update, it sounded like recent firmware update 3.61 might be the culprit. But since that time, we've learned both PS3 and Xbox 360 owners have experienced some crashing issues, and Sony has confirmed such problems have nothing to do with the PS3. Nick Caplin, head of communications at SCEE recently clarified:
"There is not an over heating problem with PS3. Occasionally a PS3 over heats for numerous reasons and we’re not seeing an increased number of reports at the moment."
After which he added:
"The point is that there is no problem. With so many PS3s in the market, the odd one is bound to over heat and for some reason this has been made to sound like an particular issue. We have not seen an increase from the normal level of calls that are received by our call centres on a daily basis."
For the record, after more than a few 3 and 4-hour sessions, we've never had the game crash, although it is clear that it demands a great deal from the system. The fan kicks in a little faster than with other titles, it seems. That being said, this sounds like a rare problem and one you probably won't encounter, especially if you have a newer PS3 or 360.
Related Game(s): L.A. Noire
Tags: l.a. noire, la noire, ps3, playstation 3, la noire overheating
5/20/2011 10:52:14 AM Ben Dutka
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Fane1024
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 7:41:53 PM
Uncharted 2 caused my first YLOD, not because the game is flawed, but because it demanded a lot from my PS3 and exposed some weakness in the "health" of the hardware. The failure could have occurred at any time, but it was more likely during U2 because it pushes the hardware more than Go Sudoku.
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:08:00 AM
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Jdogtoocool
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:07:41 AM
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Zorigo
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:26:14 AM
My computer, when i run a lot of videos and tabs and prorammes etc etc the fan gets very loud as im damnding more of my computer.
and two, LA Noire technically still is a game. not a 'game'.
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Jdogtoocool
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:25:49 PM
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Underdog15
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:23:03 PM
Eventually, if you're lucky enough, you'll even amass a downvote stalker or two like me! You know you've made a lasting impression on people when they downvote just by seeing your name! :) That's how you know you have revolutionary thoughts on gaming!
:p
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Jdogtoocool
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 2:28:44 PM
Nah man I didn't know Savage passed away he was one of the cooler wrestlers even till today. I wonder what him impersonator on TNA will have to say about this next week. So what was it a heart attack or car crash?
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leatherface
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 2:53:35 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 4:30:48 PM
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Underdog15
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 4:59:55 PM
It would only seem that way to people incapable of realizing I couldn't nor wouldn't ever make a comment like that seriously. I'm only too aware of my flaws! Married life tends to give you that perspective! *yuk yuk*
Apparently there are 7 at this point incapable of proud humor. lol (Rather 5 minus the two stalkers! HA!)
But perhaps it is as Beamboom (I believe) said in another thread... people seem designed to find only the negative... *exasperated sigh*
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Underdog15
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:08:24 PM
LV said, "Get a sense of humor man, it was funny. "
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:12:05 PM
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Underdog15
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:23:07 PM
Sorry about that LV. I saw your avitar at the top of my screen when I was editing... I totally don't think about you on my spare time... nothing creepy like that.... 0.o
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:42:51 PM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 12:30:07 PM
It's important to keep up with good workouts. It'll last longer into life. Motor memory and all that. lol
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jimmyhandsome
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:14:16 AM
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....oh sh**, nevermind. I'm only 3rd.... :-(
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cLoudou
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:28:58 AM
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Jdogtoocool
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:22:26 PM
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jimmyhandsome
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:31:44 PM
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Alienange
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 3:37:38 PM
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Underdog15
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:01:20 PM
:p And you would know since your humor is hardcooooOOOOOOoooore.
;)
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:09:22 AM
Last!
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Excelsior1
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:38:41 AM
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hundreds is a relativly small number, but apparently something is going on out there.
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bigrailer19
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:52:34 AM
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:12:03 AM
Simple facts are;
older console tend to overheat when pushed hard
Some consoles pass all the tests when made, but still harbor a latent fault that emerges at some time in the future.
It's called imperfection, and it happens, an it's no one's fault. The only thing going on out there is that someone's console decided that it's time had come after a particularly long session of LA Noir and now it' got to be someone's fault. People love to assign blame, and the anonymous complaint box called the Internet magnifies that by a million or so times.
Last edited by Highlander on 5/21/2011 12:13:31 AM
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kraygen
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:56:18 AM
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Perhaps this mixed with a game requiring a lot of the system is all it took for the old ps3's to finally overheat.
I treat my fatty like a king, but I've seen how some people treat theirs and it's no surprise to me that people are having issues.
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anjpikapp3
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:09:15 PM
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RadioHeader
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:01:57 PM
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kraygen
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 2:04:26 PM
However after tons of online research I discovered that most people who open them find little dust deep inside the machine. The majority of any dust found is near the ventilation holes in the side and back of your ps3.
Also found that Sony and several people who had cracked open their ps3's said that it's best to use a low power vacuum all around your ps3 system once in a while in order to keep it dust free. A powerful vacuum if given full suction of the vent could pull free some of the soldering and should be avoided.
Other than that make sure it's in a well ventilated area, keep it cool, and most people will have no problems.
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RadioHeader
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 3:50:20 PM
I'll be honest kraygen, I find that hard to believe, but if that's what people are saying then I'll just carry on hoovering the grills. Thanks!
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kraygen
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 4:43:43 PM
If you do enough digging you can find pictures people have posted of them removing the casing for a cleaning in a step by step process for the first time.
Apparently the internal fans do a good job of keeping most of the dust pushed away from the internal components.
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RadioHeader
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:41:05 PM
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The Doom
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:19:01 PM
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AshT
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:19:04 PM
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tlpn99
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:28:22 PM
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Enjoying thegame so far failed one mission but got the culprit someone else got away though lol. Finding it hard to read the people sometimes.
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CanadianGuy420
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:29:26 PM
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matt99
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:03:11 PM
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spiderboi
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:05:11 PM
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CanadianGuy420
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:22:14 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 4:33:01 PM
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Bandit1
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 12:49:53 PM
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bigrailer19
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:58:27 PM
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 1:06:11 AM
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xnonsuchx
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 1:15:35 PM
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aaronisbla
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 2:05:39 PM
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JBLAZE
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 2:50:28 PM
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Karosso
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 2:51:14 PM
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That is normal with most pre-slim hardware but, the fans on mine seem to be able to handle the heat so far.
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Karosso
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 3:14:50 PM
Its not even funny that people try to pull this crap about Sony's hardware, it's way beyond what the competition offers in terns of quality. I do IT support in NYC and was just on a client's home the other day, and when looking for their Apple TV to troubleshoot an issue, I opened a closet and found three XBOX360 piled up, and that's not the first time I see this. I now believe what Highlander has been preaching for a while, with X360's high rate of failure, Sony must be ahead of MS already on global "active consoles"...
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Alienange
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 3:44:14 PM
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Nah, I'm only kidding, the latest patch has really improved things.
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Snorge
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 3:59:13 PM
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Lawless SXE
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 5:07:50 PM
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Peace.
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NoSmokingBandit
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 7:25:17 PM
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If your ps3 is going to die there is nothing you can do about it. When most people are playing LA Noire there are going to be a higher rate of failures while playing that game, simply be default. Correlation does not imply causation.
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 1:09:22 AM
Even if all you ever do is switch the system on, it will eventually get to the point where it can overheat as soon as it has to 'think' about something. A decent clean out of the interior, new thermal compound and if possible a new 19 blade fan, and a more efficient PSU will do the trick.
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BikerSaint
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 7:28:46 PM
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I've been a marathon gamer & little by little, I've heard my fan kick in faster, louder, & longer & longer, until one day about 11 hours into another 36 hour marathon, my Phat Princess had enough of that & kicked me out of KZ3 & went into a final red-blinking mode(no, not the YLOD) for good, with a stuck disc inside, and no way to get it out(and yes, I tried all the Google & YouTube methods to no avail)!
And then, as most of you already know the rest,.....the f*cking USPS Planet Of The Ape's,Package-Bungling Gorilla Handler's Murderer's Division smashed my beloved Phat Princess beyond repair, & also broke my brand new 2-week old 640GB HD inside, that had over 50+ game saves.
And because of that "March Madness Massacre", I WILL still do my marathons, but I have decided to change the WAY that I do them all in the future......
This time into a long marathon, I'm going turn my new Slim Mistress off for a 1/2 hour or so every 3 or 4 hours, just so my sweetness's hot button can get it's beauty rest.
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Fane1024
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 7:54:02 PM
That's a lot of pent-up rage.
:)
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:23:08 AM
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BikerSaint
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 8:19:37 PM
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Especially even more so since I just found out yesterday that they even destroyed my brand new 640, GB HD too..
And even worse that I had over 50+ games on that I've now lost forever.
And worse yet, I had tons of marathon sessions saved on that HD, I had 66 hours in just the KZ3 game alone, and that was in less than the 1st two weeks it was out.
And worst of all, I can't even put that brand new, but broken, $70 on-sale GB HD I had just bought, into my new slim. And I've recently been laid off, so no money now.
BTW, I'm trying to say away from my local post office in the meantime till I get satisfaction for my $500 insurance claim against them.
This way I won't wind up on one of their 10 most wanted poster right away, and for nothing more than simply going all Postal on their a$$es.
"Go figure"
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Bloodysilence19
Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 10:07:52 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:15:01 AM
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:20:29 AM
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 9:08:38 AM
I were you I'de get a reball best repair option!!!
Lasts really long since you are basically getting new solder underneath the GPU!
My estimate is around 6-2years.
But the let down is price, time, and the fact they use lead to reball the new solder.
NOBODY likes lead!!!!
But I think 10 years ago all electronics used lead soldering?
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 7:12:01 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 9:26:10 PM
I have spare 19 blade fans but I would like to know the one that you talk about. And the PSU as well. Also one thing many consumers and repair shops don't do it remove and change the thermal paste between the GPU's heat plate. Put some arctic silver 5 between the heat plate and you should be good to go.
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 11:07:55 PM
I was under the impression that the 60GB PS3 uses a single integrated 5 heatpipe heat sink rather than two separate units. That said, I will ask Gophermods to make sure that the thermal pads for both the CPU and GPU are replaced when they do the service.
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 12:16:00 AM
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Anyway, this issue of overheating consoles is nothing new and to be quite honest, nearly 5 years into the lives of some of the units out there, it's to be expected.
Anyway, I posted this earlier on another site, I think it pretty well covers the issue;
Hmm... lets see. What are the ingredients here?
Take a 4 year old console that's been heavily played. Stir in a power hungry CPU and GPU combination that put's out considerable watts of heat. Add some thermal paste that is aging, and 1 aging fan that contains 4 years of accumulated dust and grime. Mix well and add to a PSU that's aging and less efficient than it used to be and you have a recipe for excess heat production in an environment that cannot remove the heat as effectively as it could when new.
Now, take that recipe and bake with new games that push the performance of the hardware further and further and you end up with a situation where older consoles stand a decent chance of overheating - thanks to their age. It's inevitable really. Heck, I have an older PC at home that needed a new video card because the Geforce 7x00 series GPU in it fried itself after 5 years, and that's in a well ventilated case with two extra fans.
This isn't the firmware, as much as the haters and conspiracy theorists would like it to be, it just isn't. It's consoles that were state of the art when built, and running at the edge of the envelope in terms of the thermal performance of the system. There's really no surprise here for anyone, A system's thermal performance will decrease as it ages, it simply will not remove as much heat as it did when new. yet at the same time the PSU becomes less efficient and produces more heat and software places ever greater demands on the hardware resulting in more heat.
The system is designed to cope with that, but some will perform less well than the reference design, and they may suffer a failure as the heat outpaces the cooling. Anything else would be a great surprise.
What can be done? Well, if you own an older PS3, have it professionally cleaned, have new thermal paste applied to the heat sink, consider replacing the power supply with a newer, more efficient one and possibly replace the fan with a new one. these are all sensible precautions you would take with an older PC - assuming you wanted to keep it running. Why would we imagine a PS3 (or 360) would be any different?
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 9:13:58 AM
I'm not sure how you can get a more efficient PSU??? THe 60gb and 80gb (2007 model) use the same PSU sometimes alternating between two PSU models. Unless you use a Desktop's psu?
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 7:23:06 PM
None of it is a solution, it's all a case of making the best of the situation. Considering that the system consumed up to 210 watts of power in operation, there's a lot of heat to be removed already. When you have a 380 watt slightly inefficient PSU churning out it's own heat as well there is a lot of heat for a HSF to remove. So if you can increase airflow with a clean, and a better fan, along with reducing the PSU's contribution to the wattage of heat to be removed, you take some of the load off the HSF. At the same time if you clean the heatsink, and re-attach it with Arctic Silver, you are increasing the thermal performance of the HSF in an environment where it now has to do less anyway. The system itself is nearly 5 years old already, and it's a near certainty that it will not survive another 5. But if I can get a year or two more out of it, I will be a happy consumer.
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___________
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 3:19:21 AM
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wickedproxy
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 11:25:48 AM
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Highlander
Saturday, May 21, 2011 @ 7:24:57 PM
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Spanky
Sunday, May 22, 2011 @ 12:35:53 PM
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There was only one time in it's life that the fan kicked and I couldn't figure out what it was for a few seconds! ;) I was several hours into RDR and it was over 90 in my room AND my PS3 sits right next to my LCD tv and you know how hot THEY get!
I had more probs with RDR than about any game I can recall. There were at least three times I was into a marathon hunting session without saving(like a dum@$$)and the game just froze up tight. Couldn't do anything with except a hard shut down which lost ALL of my kill progress. One time I had like 30 grizzlies, 100+ wolves etc...(sigh) It really ticked me off.
Now I need to go hoover my fatty(no, no! mind outta the gutter)...
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frylock25
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Friday, May 20, 2011 @ 11:05:16 AM
also annouced by sony: ratchet and clank all for one is 10/18