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So, Modern Warfare 3 Doesn't Have A Regular Campaign?

I was told Brink had a single-player campaign, too. Based on my definition of "campaign," I was lied to.

And now it seems the multiplayer-focused Call of Duty franchise plans to do something similar with Modern Warfare 3. Am I the only one who happened to notice that one tidbit when the game debuted yesterday? "Single player has a very multiplayer feel to it." ...and what does that mean, exactly? Am I jumping the gun by saying it sounds like a possibly advanced version of Brink, where it's essentially pointless to play solo? Am I too rash in thinking that the "campaign" as we know it simply won't exist?

Possibly. But you know what? It's probably not a bad idea. Look, the vast majority of all flak CoD takes centers on the lacking single-player campaigns; why not just cut it out? I mean, who even cares? What percentage of gamers who buy these games buy them for the campaigns? 1%? Less? Why not just focus on what's most popular and what's best about the series? Just eliminate the single-player entirely - those who love great campaigns like me won't really agonize over the loss - and dedicate that giant budget to making the best damn multiplayer experience ever seen.

Better yet: make a subscription-based "Call of Duty Online" (which would inevitably be another massive cash cow like World of Warcraft) and maybe, just maybe, dedicate resources to separate CoD games with unbelievable single-player campaigns only. Maybe you'll triple the profits and finally appeal to both gamers who love single-player and those who indulge in multiplayer. ...so maybe that's their plan. "Single player has a multiplayer feel to it?" Great, you've just lost my interest. But maybe I need a clarification. It can't be what it sounds like, despite the positive business angle I noted above. Can it?

Related Game(s): Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Tags: call of duty, modern warfare 3, mw3, activision

5/24/2011 9:27:14 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (159 posts)

sha4dowknight05
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 9:51:31 PM
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If I wanted to play multiplayer I would go play multiplayer.

So hyped for this running at 60FPS gunna be the smoothest game for ps3 next to gran turismo 5 prolouge.

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 9:54:28 PM

Ninja Gaiden Sigma is really smooth too.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:13:43 PM

Dante's Inferno, God of War style action in stunning 60 fps glory.

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Spanky
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:14:45 PM

Exactly! We're not all out here panting for multiplayer games all the time...in fact I hardly ever play multiplayer games.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:52:48 PM

People that are looking forward to this game and the previous installments in the series must really love vanilla ice cream.

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Claire C
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:27:21 PM

Mint chip for me. =)

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PSTan
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:58:30 PM

@World,

God of War 3 isn't locked at 60 fps. Are you talking about the hd collection?

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:05:25 AM

PSDood,

You're correct but I believe the amount of time it dips down to 30fps is an insignificant amount.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:49:30 AM

Dante's Inferno is at 60 I said (God of War style action)

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:52:27 AM

Yeah, PSDood missed the boat on that one. DI is indeed locked at 60FPS.

GoW3 is locked at 30. Just to correct LV on that point.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:49:36 AM

i wish more games were available at 60fps. it makes a big difference. people may try to downplay this, but it makes a big difference in many types of games. i just like the ultra smooth feel in the gameplay of 60 fps games.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:24:57 AM

Lawless,

You sure about that? After playing it and reading several different sources I've come to the conclusion it's fixed at 60fps but dips to 30 during several parts of the game.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:15:06 AM

I believe LV is correct with his assessment on GOW3.

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sirbob6
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:18:38 PM

I'm with LV and Pontiac, I am pretty sure it is 60 with a few dips.

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 9:54:00 PM
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"Single player has a very multiplayer feel to it."

Maybe single player will be multiplayer maps... with bots!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:14:11 PM

It wasn't before?

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:41:54 AM

Nah, I think I would have caught that. There were way too many explosions and vehicles to feel like COD multiplayer.

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rogers71
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:00:16 PM
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As long as they bring back Spec Ops, they can do whatever they like with the mp and sp. They are both the same ol same ol anyway but Spec Ops was awesome fun and I still play it to this day.

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:44:36 AM

Yeah spec ops was great. I somehow managed to do High Explosive and the oil rig (the 10 juggernaut one) solo on veteran. MW2 was the only platinum trophy I've ever gotten.

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ElJefeDiablo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 8:55:18 AM

My buddies and I also enjoyed Spec Ops. I know a lot of people griped about it as boring and pointless, but I thought it was a blast having your friend sitting next to you wreaking some objective based splitscreen havoc…even against witless AI.

Splitscreen coop campaign has unfortunately gone the way of the dodo. There is something about sharing the SP portion of a game that can make a mediocre story more tolerable. I know that people would argue that SP should be SP, but we are talking about a squad/partner based FPS here. Just double the enemy AI. I would rather have my drunken brother defending me than some dumb@$$ ally who runs in front of my crosshairs, gets hit in the face by an RPG, gets back up and then plants himself in my cover zone. At least then the ensuing sh!t talk would fall on obliterated brain cells and not on impervious pixels.

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Alienange
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:54:49 AM

It's coming back. In a big way.

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kraygen
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:08:29 PM
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Off topic, but I hope Ben will be ok with this post.

I haven't posted in a few days as I live in Joplin, Mo. I'm sure you've all heard about the tornado.

My wife and I are fine, but our house is destroyed and we will be living with family for a while so you may not hear from me very often and it will be sporadic.

Please just pray for us and all the others effected. The area is still producing tornado's and sever wind/thunderstorms and flooding.

It's been a frightening and dumbfounding few days, please just keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:16:46 PM

I feel for you, I'm just south of Minneapolis where some tornadoes have also struck. I feel very lucky to be safe and wish you good will in the future.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:26:14 PM

Kraygen,

Wow, so sorry to hear that.

My condolences & prayers go out to you, your family, & all those others caught in those crazy weather patterns you're having out there.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:33:33 PM

It sucks that's happening to you because I enjoy having you here.

My best wishes for you Kray.

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HighOnFire
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:35:38 PM

We are definately praying for you guys. I cant imagine what you are going through. Stay strong.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:54:05 PM

You're in my thoughts. Glad to hear from you and know that you're okay. Let me and the rest of the PSXE community know if there is anything we can do.


-Andy S.

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frylock25
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:36:36 AM

kraygen im sorry to hear about this. i saw this on the news the other day and it really made me start thinking. what would i do if that happened, what would happen to my kid, what would we do.

i cant imagine what your going through and i hope i never do. the natural disasters are starting to get worse and worse and it sucks. from what i saw on the news it looks like a war zone. they said it happened in like ten minutes. the idea that your life has been altered like this in such a short time is crazy. i hope you have not suffered any loss of life in your family and friends. best of luck.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:41:05 AM

You've got to be kidding. Terrible.

We at PSXE wish you all the best.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:55:07 AM

Thoughts go out to you, bud. After Yasi, I have the utmost sympathy for anyone that has to suffer through a natural disaster of any magnitude. Wishing you the best, and I hope that you can get back on your feet soon enough.

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OPHIDIAN
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:09:35 AM

Man, so lucky to live in a country that such disasters rarely occur.

Wish those affected the very best.

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Jed
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:11:23 AM

Thoughts and prayers are with you buddy. I've been following the story on the news. I only hope the best for you and yours. Please let us know if there is anything we can do.

God Bless,
Jed

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Beamboom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:18:25 AM

Your entire house destroyed? I can't even relate to how that must be like. Hopefully you got insurance, either way take care and stay strong. You are not alone.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 4:04:18 AM

Unbelievable. Stay strong bud.

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tridon
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 5:53:27 AM

I had a regular funnel cloud go over my house a few years back and that scared the crap out of me. I can't even imagine what it's like to be in a tornado that's touched down, to have everything you own taken from you and destroyed. All that really matters is that you and your family are okay, though. Be safe!

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Sancho
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 6:20:18 AM

Glad you are all safe. Wish you luck with getting things back in order from down here in KC.

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FatherSun
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:12:55 AM

My Prayers go out to you and your family.

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slugga_status
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 8:57:39 AM

Kraygen, I'm located just 2 hours away in Kansas City. I know my job and the colleges and universities in the area are donating anything possible for help. Hope you and your family remain safe and strong man

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Underdog15
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:20:19 AM

Really sorry to hear that, Kraygen. I hope things turn around for you quickly. I'm just glad you and your family are safe.

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Karosso
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:27:09 AM

Best wishes to you your family and loved ones. Hope everyone you know and care about came out of this alright. When you rebuild your place make sure to have a strong basement built, not trying to be funny, just concerned...
Hang in there, it will get better soon.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:06:30 AM

I'm sorry to hear that. That's a terrible tragedy. I hope you and your family get through!

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NiteKrawler
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:25:57 AM

So sorry to hear about that. Hope everything gets better.

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BeezleDrop
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:56:55 AM

Indeed I have heard about this Kreygen, I had no idea many others that frequent here are Missouri natives like ol' Beezle. I wish you and yours all the best. Apparently we have a few touch downs around Kansas City right now, that right on top of me! Beginning of the end eh?

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Alienange
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:01:10 PM

I hope that whenever it is that things get back to some state of normalcy for, that you come back and read what your friends have posted here. You are clearly a cherished member here.

Take care of those closest to you.

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slugga_status
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:17:47 PM

@ Beezle

I work right on State Line Rd. The last 2 hours was nerve wrecking. We had about 3 funnel clouds over my job. Very nasty looking as well. I know Metcalf just got hit as well as the Holmes & Red Bridge area.

I hope any others in the KC Metro area and surrounding cities be safe for the next few hours

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Lairfan
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:36:21 PM

That's horrible. I don't even know how I would react to my life being torn apart like that.

I will pray for you and your family Kraygen. Stay strong.

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LazyVigilante
Thursday, May 26, 2011 @ 8:13:28 AM

Glad to know that your family's safe.Sorry to hear that you lost your house to the disaster.I will pray for you man.Stay strong.

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BIGRED15
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:13:55 PM
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well it sounds to me like cod definately needs to just make the jump to strictly multiplayer, I'll bet 90 % of cod players only play for the online so with that in mind, it really doesn't matter. It may make me think a bit more about actually playing another cod game. As much as I hate to say it, i think the campaign drags down the online. They just made cod capable of running on 60 FPS unwaivering. you know what would make that even better, extra disc space which would be even more crucial on a 360. This would really make sense IMO.

What doesn't make sense is trying to give single player a multiplayer feel. What the hell sense does that make? Just get rid of all the indecisiveness and be done with it already. Cod would benefit from it. Follow in the footstepts of Wow, hey wouldn't it be great if cod became another MMO FPS? Well maybe not to some, but i think thats a cool idea. Anyway, it needs to happen this way for cod to continue to grow its fanbase. Sure 10% at most might not buy it without SP, but you'll gain another 40% just for creating a more focused, robust, and varied multiplayer

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:50:03 AM

They could definitely jam a helluva lot more content and capability into an online-only version. It's pure genius. Though I do somewhat enjoy the SP but I've been taken more by the online since updating to a connection that didn't leave me with a full second disadvantage (1000ms ping basically like playing through a wire that wraps around the world twice before reaching the host (or server)).

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:19:20 PM
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Maybe they just mean the single player is going to feel even more rampant, unfocused, and anarchic.

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RadioHeader
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 8:52:14 AM

Maybe the AI teabags you when you're down?

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SixSpeedKing
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:17:43 PM

@Radio
Lol! That made my day man. Thanks :)

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:24:15 PM
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I still can't figure out what that means, SP with MP feel?
Come again?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:36:04 PM

It *feels* like there is even less of a semblance of a story.

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Vitron
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:43:15 PM

Yeah, i'm rather confused too...


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Snaaaake
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:14:58 PM

Kotick:"This will be a genre-defining FPS of all time!!! Forget DOOM and Quake!!! We got Modern Warfare 3 ya pussies!!!!! Using a half-decade-old engine that runs at 60FPS and 600 bugs in it!!!! Then there's also a campaign with MP feel to it!! How you might ask? You'll feel like you're playing with other players when in fact you're actually playing with enemy AIs."

Wait, what?!??

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:52:55 AM

Maybe they mean more open paths. It could be like Unreal Tournament where it feels exactly like multiplayer in the campaign.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:23:03 AM

Uhhhh, Call of Duty: The Tournament?

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Miggy
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:36:43 PM
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I always thought Call of Duty should just be a multiplayer only game like MAG.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 4:12:21 AM

If Cod turned multiplayer only that would actually be a relief imo, then we'd be done with all those "cod sp suck" topics.
And like stated by many, COD *is* a multiplayer game. That's what it is all about.

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shootu
Friday, May 27, 2011 @ 2:01:54 AM

Except Mag is complete crap and control is way out of whack!

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killerbee12
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:38:45 PM
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i only buy cod for campain

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BIGRED15
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:02:44 PM

well than you are likely part of that 10% my friend

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:10:47 PM

Why would you spend $60 for 5hrs of gameplay?

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:54:22 AM

Since COD invests so much in multiplayer I'd say you are either missing out or getting ripped off by just buying for single player.

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Zorigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 8:52:45 AM

dude, youre doing it wrong

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Sancho
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:38:52 PM
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The only issue with making it online MP only and charging a monthly fee is the majority of the people that play CoD would refuse to pony up $10-15 a month to play. A good chunk of people I know that play CoD that I attempt to explain the fee for DCU Online the only reaction I get is "you mean you pay monthly for a game you already bought?"

They just don't get the server maintenance, new content regularly along with constant patches implementing bug fixes tweaks and enhancements. It still comes down to, "but you pay for it every month?"

Thats obviously just most of the gamers I know in my area that play shooters primarily. Although if the ratio is similar world or nation wide it wouldn't work out very well for Activision

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Lairfan
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:39:42 PM

Eh, I'm not too sure about that. I'd bet you that most people would make some kind of "one-time exception" for CoD.

At least, that's what most people I know would do.

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Vitron
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:52:11 PM
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So what will happen to Soap and Price?

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sirbob6
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:24:36 PM

They start up a nice cottage in southern england that caters to vets.

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GuyverLT
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:55:27 PM
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Just leave it be people, cause from what I hear this game has already (Allegedly) gotten more pre-orders in 3 days then Black-Ops got in a entire week so it seems to me that the majority doesn't seem to care in the least bit. As far as I can tell Activision is making the game based solely around it's strong point which is the multi-player & the majority seems to play the online most of the time anyway so does it matter.

I'm really tired of hearing people complain about this game.

There is no point in complaining about it anymore just don't play it when it comes out.

I'm sure there other shooters out there for your enjoyment so pick and be done with it.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:57:49 PM

So I should be silent and not give my own opinion just because a game I don't like is selling well?

I'm failing to see the logic in your post.

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:40:37 PM

@LimitedVergo

Some things are better left to yourself. Like your constant bitching about FPS/Call of Duty games. Not everyone needs to know your constant opinion on everything. But you seem to think otherwise.

I'm all for expressing yourself or your opinion, but there's a limit to everything.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:50:35 PM

@MR.BoneThugsWannabe


This a game forum for all of us to share our opinions. I see nothing wrong with voicing my opinion about COD especially within a thread about COD. You're damn right I think otherwise to your narrow minded views/opinion on what I should and shouldn't be allowed to comment on. Thankfully you have ZERO influence around here so STFU.

I don't doubt you enjoyed it while I was away for a bit. Now that I'm back I've enjoyed pointing out your flawed logic, idiotic views, and all around moronic attitude towards the simplest of things.

Once again you've replied to something I've posted but instead of actually replying to what's being discussed you've attempted to personally attack me. You're a coward and continue to prove you know very little about anything discussed on this website.

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:55:30 PM

That's right. Keep getting upset over other people's posts, then even more upset when your own posts get called out.

Stop being so damn annoying on every CoD-related article that comes by. Jesus...

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:57:47 PM

LOL!

Way to come back and erase your last paragraph which originally said:

"You're also by far the most annoying user on here. And I'm not even joking. I liked it when you left. Should've stayed that away."


You really are a coward, you can't even stand behind you're original thoughts but instead you attempt to erase them.

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:58:47 PM

I didn't want to hurt your feelings. I see how easily you catch feelings then get upset on here. I'm sorry I didn't erase it earlier.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:00:35 AM

@The Art of War

I have no problem with others disagreeing with me. The problem with people like you is you're unable to actually carry on a conversation. Instead you attempt to personally attack me and don't even make an attempt to discuss or counter my thoughts.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:02:19 AM

Just a heads up, it's the internet. I have zero respect for you as a gamer or a person based on your post history so there is not a chance I could ever be offended or upset by anything you say about me.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:05:04 AM

Fine. Conversations it is. :)

It's funny you say that you have "zero respect for me", as that clearly indicates I upset you greatly. So please, stop lying to us and yourself about getting upset on here. Take it easy, relax and don't pop a blood vessel. Like you said, this is the Internet.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:07:28 AM

GTFO

I'm not going to continue this worthless conversation with you. You're the equivalent of a troll on other forums. You're not here to actually discuss gaming or offer any knowledgeable information on a particular subject. You'd much rather attempt to waste someone's time repeating the same BS.

You're on my ignore list.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:08:48 AM

I can feel the rage all the way from here. GOTDAMN!!!

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newchef
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:23:42 AM

haha wow this whole convo is pointless,,,


im with LV on this tho it is a forum for expressing opinions, and seeing his opinion actually has to do with the topic, it is valid...you bashing him for his opimiom is not however and all your doing to yourself is getting on more and more peoples bad side, which on a site like this with a strong, i guess family is a good word, your gonna get ignored/trolled everytime you come on

and this goes for Guyvers original post as well, although youre right he is complaining, his complaints were valid. and with every game there is going to be hate...especially generic shooters like CoD on this site where most posters are more diverse in there preferences.



on my own note: really if all you wanna play is a shooter thern an xbox maybe your better choice, unless of course you enjoy other types of games

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:33:06 AM

Yeah, I'm gonna slow down a bit. His constant rants were really annoying me, that's all.

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:01:38 AM

@LV
Technically a COD hater posting on a COD topic is the definition of a troll. You also use some pretty strong words that show you have a pretty strong temper, but I'm not here to get in an argument, so carry on.

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slugga_status
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:03:21 AM

I agree with Guyver on this one. It's one thing to not like CoD..but to spew hate about it constantly is rather pointless. We all know it's not the best FPS out there. At the same time Activision hasn't came out and said that it was.

You either like it our you don't. I loved the first Modern Warfare..and the series has gotten repetitive. I said I wasn't buying CoD simply to play with friends this go around unless I see vast improvement..

We don't know what this game really entails..so we just have to wait and see..

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:29:35 AM

somethingrandom,

Having a differing opinion on a product and conversing about that product in a forum dedicated to that product with other people is not trolling. There is nothing wrong with discussing our opinions (whether they be in favor or against) with one another.

Oh and once again no one has even attempted to counter anything I have to say regarding COD but rather personally attack me for sharing my opinion. Pathetic.

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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:25:25 AM

My post is in reply to Guyver:

I agree completely. I know I'm in the minority around these parts, but I've been a Call of Duty fan since Call of Duty 2 back in 2005. I admit the series have gone stale, but I'm a sucker for good trailers, and Activision sucked me back in once again. I was fully expecting to pass on this years version in favor of Battlefield 3, but I might be pre-ordering both at this point.

I'm also in the minority with CoD players that I actually enjoy the campaign mode slightly more than the online. I mean, compared to other shooting games, the campaign/story has plenty of "holy sh*t!" moments that I LOVE. Even comparing the campaigns to more recent shooting titles for the PS3, Socom 4 and Killzone 3, I believe that the Call of Duty stories sucked me in alot more than those two. Socom 4's story was non-existant, and Killzone 3's while better, didn't have enough "umph" for my liking.

I usually refrain from posting anything positive about Call of Duty because I know the negative stigma that goes along with being a "mediocre shooter" fan around these parts. But the announcement trailer that debuted the other night really impressed me. But alas, any and all Call of Duty articles that are posted here will be filled with more hate-filled rants than positive ones.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:38:42 AM

I'm with LV on this one. He's right. It is a glitchy franchise with a short multiplayer and unreliable party play. They don't improve it the way they should, and why should they?

I'm with him... it's frustrating that the best selling game, in fact best selling multimedia, in history does not take the time, effort, and monetary investment to make it the best game worthy of those sales. And that won't change until people learn about other BETTER titles.

I mean... on 360, Gears and Halo are WAY better multiplayer games. On PS3, Uncharted 2, Killzone 3 (and 2!), Bulletstorm, MAG, and more are better multiplayer games on PS3. Lordy knows PC has many better multiplayer games.

It's a bit of a phenominon, and his points are valid. And he's right... NO ONE has countered his first reply to Guyver. No one.

Personally, I'm frustrated with CoD too. But I'm not unfair. Go see my user reviews on MW2 and Black Ops to see for yourself. I still scored it well, and I acknowledge they are decent games. But my goodness... not to the extent it's been invested in by it's supporters!

I feel his frustration, and it isn't trolling.

Guess what?!?!? People aren't going to stop complaining about it's piss poor reliability, dumb AI, short Single player, and glitchy quickscoping multiplayer until... guess what... they FIX it.

There is NO way you can tell me they can't fix issues.

I mean, my friggin' goodness, MW2 STILL has the hide-in-a-rock glitch!!! Black Ops STILL favors players with a bad connection! It still has unreliable host designation... and it still struggles to keep parties together.

His complaints are legitimate. He isn't just saying it's stupid. He's calling out real life flaws that Activision refuses to fix. They release maps for $15 that have bugs, like that hide in a rock trick in MW2.

That's VERY poor service. You get a very shitty return for your investment. It's frustrating because it CAN be amazing. But it isn't.

LV is in the right, and I would LOVE to hear someone counter his original reply... legitimately.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:53:22 AM

To add, since after posting I saw Jimmy's,

I also agree with much of what Jimmy says. I liked MW and MW2's single player campaign. I also liked Black Ops single player too. And I definitely liked them better than multiplayer. But I like SP better than Multiplayer most of the time anyways.

I just don't like how short it is, and I hate the AI. I also don't like how the difference in difficulty is merely giving the AI perfect aim with a shotgun or uzi from 50 football fields away.

My biggest beef is with the multiplayer issues. Which is why I hate the big focus on a broken multiplayer along with the worry of making SP more multiplayer-ish.

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OPHIDIAN
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 11:02:34 AM

@LV:

My favourite games include MGS, FF, GT5 and Tekken.

To be impressed with a game, the game must accomplish an incredibly high standard, graphics, gameplay and story must be excellent.

My first ever COD experience was MW1 (probably a good start), I was very impressed with the single player gameplay and graphics, the story wasn't amazing, but reminded me of Michael Bay's movies. This was great for me, because I really enjoy his films, especially 'The Rock' and Transformers.

I hadn't played online ever before, but decided to start with MW1. I don't think I've been so addicted to a game my entire life. I had to find the right set up and get first each match.

This experience lead me to play other online games like Warhawk, which is the only other game I enjoy online.

I don't know whether you've given MW a chance (not Treyarchs bullcrap). A friendly recommendation. Give MW2 another go (about 30 mins), I'm sure you'll be addicted.



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coverton341
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:30:15 PM

I tend to agree with everything LV says here and this is no exception.

We, the members of this site, come here to discuss games. There are articles about specific games and we discuss those games in said articles.

He is complaining about obvious and glaring flaws in the CoD franchise. Why should anyone stifle their opinion because it is a negative one when people with positive opinions of the game stomp up and down the halls in praise of it?

Here are some facts: there are glitches throughout the multiplayer in CoD that haven't ever been addressed, the single-player campaign has been getting thinner and shorter each iteration, Activision overcharges for recycled maps that have clearly not gone through thorough testing because there are still glaring glitches, the games will sell like hot cakes.

If we as gamers in general just sit back and shut up about the flaws in these games they won't ever get fixed, and worse yet people will, just as yourselves Guyver and ArtofWar, will become complacent about them and worse yet, acceptant of them. That has clearly already happened, so I personally feel that it would be a disservice to the gaming industry to sit idly by and not voice our negative opinions about this franchise. The louder the dissenters are the more likely that these issues will be addressed or at the very least other people that have become complacent and acceptant will open their eyes and say "you know what, this is bad"

So no, people with something negative to say should not stop saying because you are growing tired of it, we should say it louder. Maybe soon you will look into what we are saying instead of complaining that we complain too much.

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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:41:53 PM

No doubt that the multiplayer is glitchy as hell. Its not an enjoyable experience for me. Having some idiot camp for the entire match until he cheaply strings together a killstreak and then things get exponentially unfair. Its just not that much fun. And its not because I "suck" or whatever else. I'd much rather prefer playing Halo Reach or Killzone 3 online any day of the week. Less glitches, less bugs, and in my opinion much more balanced gameplay.

But like I said, I tend to enjoy the single player campaigns of the CoD games. I find that they (usually) have an interesting story. Even if it gets confusing, they at least EXPLAIN why I'm trying to kill Fidel Castro, or who is planning on dropping nuclear weapons on America. There are other shooting games out there that shamelessly throw together single player missions with some crap "story" that ties it together (I'm looking at you, Socom 4).

CoD catches as much flak as it does simply because of its success. And I agree that the way the game sells you'd think Activision could take the time and money to update the engine and/or fix the glitches. However, if I go out and buy MW3 when it comes out later this year its because I think the good will outweigh the bad. No game is perfect, and its not me being "complacent" with mediocrity or glitches/bugs.

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Lairfan
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:45:51 PM

Wow, LV and Art of War are assholes. But what's new?

Also, even though Underdog agrees with LV, I agree with Underdog simply because he put it in FAR better terms than LV did.

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GuyverLT
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 4:31:52 PM

@anyone who complains

If you have so many problems with the game then don't play ignore it and move to the next FPS isn't there like 3 or 4 different ones coming out between now and later this year it it's as simple as that.

I'm just saying no point in giving yourself a Hernia over it. The developers obviously ain't listening and plus yall know yall still gonna play the damn thing and if you're not if you've made up you're mind that you're not gonna play this next installment then again I ask WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF COMPLAINING???

@coverton341
"If we as gamers in general just sit back and shut up about the flaws in these games they won't ever get fixed, and worse yet people will, just as yourselves Guyver and ArtofWar, will become complacent about them and worse yet, acceptant of them."

What the hell ever if a game sucks then it sucks I'm not finna waste my time with it, like I said before I'll just turn my attention to something that IS GOOD. You're dealing with Activision a company that is all about the money and if the game sold as much as it did despite all these so-called complaints then why the hell would they change if it's selling like it is, there would be no point if people keep buying it. There is no bigger statement that can be made then to SHUT UP and just not buy the next one (or any future installments), then you'll really be saying something because you'll be hitting them where it hurts the most.... THERE POCKETS... That's the only way a company like Activision is gonna hear you, cause they will definitely be forced to take a step back and rethink what they're doing and go back to the drawing board. Otherwise they're just gonna keep putting out the flawed/glitchy multi-player game.



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slugga_status
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 5:59:22 PM

Guyver is right again..

Just want to clarify I have no issue with anyone sharing an opinion. However, CoD tends to get brought to the forefront on this website almost everytime a article about a FPS is posted. Also it's the same complaints over and over.

The MP aspect of CoD has never surprised me. They all have bugs and stability issues. Some iterations with more bugs then the other. The point is despite these bugs you all (including myself) purchased the games. Despite the reason why, we still bought the game.

The SP were ok..and I agree with Underdog that the AI isn't up to par either. The MW story was good..I couldn't get into WaW..MW2 was good enough...BO..can't lie..was horrible..Even so we all still played it.

I don't think this community is the place for those to voice concerns or complaints about the franchise constantly. If it's that serious just e-mail Activision directly..or like Guyver said, don't buy the game..



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giant123
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:42:15 PM

@limited, up to this point in this discussion, all you have done is attack people, starting with "so i should just remain silent?".... or something like that, i think i speak for a few people when i say: chill man, chill

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shootu
Friday, May 27, 2011 @ 2:10:02 AM

@ LV and who ever else is agreeing go play Mario Cart and STFU if you cant play a gamers game!

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 10:56:14 PM
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Besides the lack of traditional RPGs the whole FPS on consoles craze has been the greatest downfall in terms of gaming quality for me this generation. Playing these mediocre shooters on consoles is like watching softcore porn instead of the hardcore.

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newchef
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:38:42 AM

i agree completely it seems with every shooter that comes out the single player gets even less attention, and this article shows it, it seems that theyre gonna use multiplayer elements in the single player, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of a sp campaign.

even with the quality shooters, like killzone nd resistance, it seems that multiplayer is taking over, with less attention to the single player story...it was abundantly clear in Killzone 3 (which i loved anyway) that the single player was, maybe not an after thought but it wasnt there main priority.

alot of time the games that go out of the box get shunned and ignored for being too "different" from the socially accepted norm which is rediculous in my eyes, because in all honesty some of my favorite shooters this generation were, haze, wet and fracture...all of which got lukewarm to cold scores, and the usual reason was that they were shooters but they were different and it always seems that the reviewer thinks poorly of them for that.

yes it is possible for out of the box shooters to get good score, i.e. killzone, resistance. but they often turn to theyre multiplayer to boost sales which often leaves the single campaign something to be desired

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:03:22 AM

C'mon softcore porn isn't that bad. Trust me you can find a lot worse hardcore porn than softcore.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:32:03 AM

I'd rather watch a dozen pregnant women get the good ole Brooklyn Alley Double Dipper than watch softcore porn. You must be underage if you think softcore porn is worth watching.

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:45:20 PM

Well honestly I've accidentally seen a lot worse than pregnant women. No, I'm not underage, and I think some hardcore is pretty torturous to watch compared to softcore. At least with softcore you're only left agonizingly bored at the worst and not puking as could happen with some stuff.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:15:32 PM

I've been told never to google two girls one cup. My eyes will never be the same. So thus far, I have heeded that advice/warning.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 5:15:18 PM

way off topic but...

Softcore = people pretending to have sex who look like they are actually having sex
Hardcore = people actually having sex who look like they are pretending to have sex

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giant123
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:45:14 PM

on this, i completely agree with you i'm so tired of every shooter that comes out mimicking CoD to some extent, EVEN HALO, KILLZONE, AND SOCOM have been affected.

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shootu
Friday, May 27, 2011 @ 2:08:08 AM

FPS ALL have really bad control. Not sure about you but when I am playing I want FULL control.

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BIGRED15
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:13:15 PM
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well LV...
i cant say i like the use of that analogy, but yea, this gen has seen shooter saturation. I fall victim to this at times, but i only play the shooters i know i'll enjoy (i.e. resistance)

@ Guyver and LV
I've said it before, ive never been a huge fan of RPG's (i've invested plenty of hours in several titles to make that opinion) but thats my opinion and mine only, i'll express that opinion here the same way i'll express my distain for COD. I'll make my opinions known regardless of what anyone has to say because well... thats what a blog/forum is for.

BF3/ R3 for the 2011 W.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:19:04 PM

Why don't you like it, the adult theme?

I understand not everyone is interested in RPGS, however they've become a staple of the console format and it's sad to see them fading away while other genres like shooters which don't fit into the console format very well (IMO) over saturate the market.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 4:23:14 AM

I take my chances and reply to a post of yours again LV :) cause this I agree 100% with. I *never* understood why fps of all genres, where the mouse really shines as a controller device, could become THE genre on consoles.

When I went from PC to ps3 as gaming platform I got surprised by the huge domination of first person view in general. I expected more 3rd person adventure and/or platform style games as well as RPGs and other slower paced games (I really did no resesarch before I got the ps3, I got it simply because of gtaiv).


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mastiffchild
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:02:39 PM

Ah,mouse and keys may well be the most EFFECTIVE FPS control method but I, for one, now do my MP gaming almost exclusively on console with a controller for three main reasons:1, It's a more equal playing field on consoles as everyone has the same controller and the same tech.2, Mouse and keys isn't a great way to immerse yourself because it's TOO good at times and makes your average Joe avatar guy behave like a a superman aim wise and speedwise and aiming on a different plane is also off putting and,3, I grew tied of the "arms race" here I felt I had to upgrade every time I saw a better gaming mouse!

For me consoles just offer a much fairer test of skill whether mouse and keyboard is a more effective control method isn't up for debate(it IS) but is it plain "better"? Not for me.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:36:31 PM

Indeed I agree about the equal hardware, mastiffchild. I jumped off the bandwagon myself, when I got the ps3. Also it's nice with one platform being "it", all future games relates to the same hardware setup.

But it was *amazing* how much difference there is between a good and a cheap mouse. I used to play Unreal Tournament a lot earlier, and going from a regular mouse to a Logitech gaming mouse made me immediately climb several places on the result lists.

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:37:22 PM
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So Ben, out of curiosity...this article does not solidify if Modern Warfare 3 will NOT have a campaign mode, correct? It's just speculation?

I am positive that Modern Warfare 3 will have a campaign mode, because I remember reading somewhere that Infinity Ward, out of the 3 total developers working on the game, will be focusing on the campaign mode.

Anyway, I personally, think that taking out the campaign would be a good idea. While I do enjoy the campaign mode, this would mean the developers can focus on other things, such as the multiplayer, because let's face it...that's the real and main attraction of the Call of Duty series. With all this more time and effort they can use for the multiplayer, just think how close to perfection they can come.

Guess we'll all just have to wait and see at E3.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:42:59 AM

It doesn't even suggest MW3 won't have a campaign; it suggests it won't have a NORMAL campaign.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:46:20 AM

Whoops, I misread. My mistake.

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556pineapple
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:42:27 PM
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Call of Duty never really interested me in the first place. I dunno, maybe I'm just tired of this type of FPS, no matter how good it was put together. If what you say is true, just count this as the final nail in the coffin for this series for me. I'll have no interest in it at all.

Though on a similar subject, Battlefield 3 intrigues me. I still doubt I'll actually purchase it, but after watching that game play footage, I'll probably rent it at least.

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Kangasfwa
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:49:14 PM
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So terrible AI bots will run around the levels screaming racial and sexual slurs in squeaky voices?

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 11:51:17 PM

If you get it for 360 yes.

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:07:47 AM

NOO! Don't forget the guys cranking their rap music into their headsets or the moms yelling at their kids to quit playing.

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darxed
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:11:22 PM

They will also get killed a lot while teabagging fallen opponents they didn't even kill...

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Fane1024
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:02:05 AM
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No (normal) single-player campaign?

If the MW2 demo is any indication, then I'd have to say "no big loss".

POS, even by FPS standards.


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Gabriel013
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:03:16 AM
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Ben, I agree that multiplayer should be stripped from the standard release and packaged as a subscription title.

I would love to see then publish a COD game which has a deep and involving 10hr plus campaign, maybe with multiple endings depending on how you completed previous missions?
Give us a reason to play the SP campaign more than once dammit!

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giant123
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:51:07 PM

i would be extremely upset with that, because Activision would probably still charge for DLC and their support (fixing glitches and hacks) is pretty bad. so what exactly would be the point in Pay2Play CoD?

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Geobaldi
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:03:47 AM
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I'm sorry. Call of what??

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:09:38 AM

I believe the answer we're looking for is... Drumroll Please................................................
Duty

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Jawknee
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 4:01:09 AM

Doodie.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 5:47:48 PM

"Call Of Doddle" on their old Etch-A-Sketch 1.5 engine

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godsdream
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:11:31 AM
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Wow, they amaze me (sarcasm) every time they intend something new. LOL It seems the publishers know what are the reasons why I don't like this franchise and they focus in doing it more and more every time. I'm glad I've never purchased one of their CoD games and never will.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:25:08 AM
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Okay, if I don't get to shoot crap up in a taco bell or burger time I'm gonna be pissed.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:41:19 AM
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I think it's just a way to hype the game.
SP is SP and MP is MP.
Multiplayer means multiple PLAYER or GAMER playing.
And I doubt that it's gonna have AIs so smart that they learn from you.
It'd takes years to do.

Or do they mean you go into one area and you start your deathmatch with the AIs, once you're done then you move into another area and start killing again and then rinse and repeat.

Wow, that's revolutionary indeed...........

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:11:44 AM

Gotta be the case. Well at least something similar.

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gangan19
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:26:40 AM
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I don't agree at all here, the ps3 has a huge amount of space to fit both a very huge single player campaign and a multilayer on one blu ray disc.


Damn microsoft didn't get the memo when, we said next generation of gaming.

these pampered devs just making everyone suffer, we paid allot of money for these consoles...and we get shit cause of the xbox.

I wouldn't mind the xbox, but the tech is outdated and dragging the pure art of the games.... swapping disc was ps1 day's for crying out loud

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:03:51 AM
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That's what killed even the tiny amount of enthusiasm I had for the game. Sowwy CoD, I hated the chance that I had to play of the Black Ops MP, and putting that sort of experience into the already uninteresting SP... GO AWAY!

If it means replacing NPC enemies with players... GO AWAY! If it means making constant spawn points, as is the entire point of MP... GO AWAY!

I'm sorry, the entire idea of this is painful to me. Maybe Raven will actually be able to develop a half-decent dedicated MP game, and allow the team of IW and Sledgehammer to implement their wannabe MP into the SP. Eh, I'm going to try to avoid any and all news articles on this game, but sometimes you just find something to p*ss ya right off!
Peace.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:31:10 AM
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COD can't be released as a subscription title, that's meaningless suggestions/speculations.
Like I've said in similar discussions before, there's not really anything to charge for, since both clients and game servers are run by the players.
The differences between COD and World Of Warcraft are so huge that you have to be one who don't play either to draw any comparison between the two.


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Fane1024
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 5:21:52 PM

shouldn't...yes, certainly
can't...I wouldn't bet against it

Just because Antivision isn't doing anything to deserve a subscription fee doesn't mean they won't try to milk the COD addicts for every penny they can squeeze out of them.

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slugga_status
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 6:07:46 PM

Honestly a subscription based CoD likely wouldn't go too far. Not saying they wouldn't make money b/c the hardcore fans will buy immediately. But for the twitchers and others who just like to play Team Deathmatch 3 million times, I doubt they'd pay for the game and then pay to play..

Especially as far as the 360 is concerned. I'm already paying just to have Live why would I have to pay more money just to play one game online...no

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Fane1024
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:59:59 PM

Agreed. I'm not saying it would be successful, just that Activision would try it.

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___________
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:56:41 AM
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1% of 15+ million is still quite a big number!
no way antivision will cut out any of there fanbase!
allot of people still like the campaign.
sure people stay for the mp but that does not mean cutting out the campaign will not effect sales!

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StevieRV
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 4:34:27 AM
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ive never played any of the COD SP campaigns, i enjoy the multiplayer though, i wouldnt care one bit if it had no SP campaign, i have resistance, killzone, battlefield among others for that, the whole game dedicated to multiplayer like mag would be better IMO

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tridon
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 5:49:41 AM
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I'd be fine with CoD going multi only but why couldn't they at least finish off the Modern Warfare series with a regular campaign? Yes, more people obsess over the MP than the SP but MW has been such a story-based series that to just drop the SP from the third and basically say, "s#!t happened and this is World War 3," well... that's just stupid. If a single-player campaign is missing, I'm buying ONLY Battlefield for my FPS needs this fall.

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PlanetDelirium
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:03:44 AM
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BATTLEFIELD 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Palmetto
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:23:53 AM
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Single player aside what exactly does this game have to offer regardless? Hey here is an idea... try dedicated servers! I am tired of this franchise raking in mountains of cash only to leave its customers with failed pvp matchmaking where your opponents internet is provided by carrier pigeons!

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SoulController
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 7:41:41 AM
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I said it before and ill say it again, its sprinkles on poop I tell ya...lol

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SoulController
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:15:50 AM

Lol I know people will like what they want but let's be honest here, there are so many better experiences out there. Especially on the ps3.

Call of duty 2012=Madden 2012

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slugga_status
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 6:10:42 PM

Give Brink a try..It isn't bad at all. Not saying it's great but it certainly is worth playing

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BeezleDrop
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 9:39:58 AM
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If you have played one you have played them all. So yes somethingrandom, and artofwar, you two will buy MW3 because you are satisfied with MEDIOCRITY admit it you sad foo's!

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:30:55 AM
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Sounds like it's going to be all about multiplayer, and the campaign will probably be real short and iffy. COD games not worth the 60 bucks.

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Alienange
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 12:07:50 PM
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No one's talking about it because it DOES have a campaign. Just because the scenarios will feel more like a mp match doesn't mean there's no proper campaign. The trailer shows us that much. In fact, it sounds like the campaign might just be the best one yet.

Whether or not this mish-mash of devs can get the mp right, is another question.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:00:26 PM
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If they start cutting out SP in these games, what footage will they use to make their award winning commercials out of that make everyone drool with excitement over?

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sunspider13
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 1:05:44 PM
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As a fellow Missourian (St.Louis) my prayers are with you all kraygen.

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Nynja
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 2:22:40 PM
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I have a feeling they will be going the MMO route for online with this next installment. Players will probably pick a faction to side with. Maybe even for the single player, where it essentially never ends... hence the WW3 reference at the end of the reveal trailer.

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Lairfan
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 3:56:37 PM
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Well, at least we all can say that its a natural progression for CoD to make single player more like its multiplayer. And indeed, that's probably what most of the fans would want, seeing as how maybe 1 out of every million gamers gets the game for the SP.

However, I'm still not getting the game. Just like all the other CoDs, it'll be a "rent for two days then return" game. There's absolutely no value in it, just like all the other ones (except for MW1 and WaW to an extent).

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giant123
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 8:00:25 PM

I still play CoD4 quite a bit.lol, but WaW had a pretty good story. I wish they would release a $5 cut scene to finish up MW3's story so i dont feel like I'm missing out... or wasting money

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Mdash0009
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 8:17:27 PM
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i personally buy it for its multiplayer, but i dont want sp to b like mp. i also hope they use dedicated servers and dont hav the same problems as previous CODs. im gonna wait to buy this 1, im gonna make sure its worth it first =/

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StangMan80
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:05:48 PM

Then don't count on buying it. Because it won't be worth it. Not by looking at their track record.
What happen COD!? I loved your COD 4 and after that.. Why did you guys decide to stop improving your game? and in some cases get worse.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 10:03:10 PM
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I love this article, My favorite by you, Ben in a long time. Love it!

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Spanky
Thursday, May 26, 2011 @ 9:18:56 AM
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*off topic but FPS*

What in the world happened to Medal of Honor?? I used to be a huge fan it was always on my must buy list. The whole storyline appealed to me...WWII, Ernie Patterson, sabotaging the baddies etc. Then they dump the whole shebang and try to do a modern FPS that is a totally saturated market. <shaking head> I didn't even bother to rent.

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MysticJon
Thursday, May 26, 2011 @ 12:55:06 PM
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I care about the single-player campaign. Heck, I may even care more about it than I do about the online multiplayer. MW2 online was such a disaster, it became virtually unplayable very quickly. Not to mention Special Ops, which was not very well received by fans.

They can remove the campaign if they want, it just means I can skip the game altogether. No biggie...

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wryslok
Thursday, May 26, 2011 @ 2:38:36 PM
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I never play Multiplayer. Too unstructured and chaotic. If a game is MP only, I won't buy it. Period.

Thanks Blur!

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