E3 2011: Watch The Full Sony E3 Press Conference Here

WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:07:01 PM
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I hate to say it but that conference wasn't very good. Where were all the new exclusives? Where was Quantic Dream? Agent? Kevin Butler? Where was Last Guardian? No God of War 4? Final Fantasy Versus? It was all about the Vita, and there wasn't much to that. Move with some games is all well and good but we are hardcore gamers here. I say boo.

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15 up, 7 down

Claire C
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:11:56 PM

I wonder why they didn't show Twisted Metal during the conference.

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Highlander
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:15:00 PM

Not sure what conference you saw. Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, not hardcore enough?

Personally I thought the conference was a good one, light year's better than the Kinect conference.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:21:55 PM

The Uncharted demo was impressive looking, the R3 demo was kinda brief, and we already knew all about those games so it isn't especially exciting you know.

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Shams
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:30:33 PM

I hear ya, World. Not as much of a showing for ps3 titles as I expected, but as Highlander has said, the showing of U3, R3 (and Starhawk amongst others) is a big deal, and the knowledge of the others, like Last Guardian suffices my heart.

I, myself, am quite excited about the Vita, though (not so much about the name, but what'evs). Even if it meant nothing more than ps3-like games on the go, that would be good enough for me, but it will also be my first smart handheld device. Yep, I'm getting the 3g model.

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Teddie9
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:34:32 PM

yeah im with world i was waiting for that "shocking" moment to happen and then consume me for the rest of the evening

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:35:02 PM

Warmed my heart to see Chloe and Elena again. But that won't keep me excited like last years E3 did.

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:36:26 PM

World,

I thought it was very good, but it could've been pure awesome sauce if Sony had added everything else in that you just stated too.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:01:25 AM

Shocking moments?

PS Vita priced at $249 when people were scared it would retail at $400-$500?

New 3D 24-inch monitor that has the ability to allow two completely different views of the game locally allowing two players to play head to head on the same console and screen - including glasses and game for $499? I *never* anticipated that screen bundle, or the local head to head play feature. That is very much a 'wow' for me.

The clarity of the Uncharted demo on the PSVita was ridiculous. Remember that was a camera over the shoulder of the player live on stage, no tricks or post processing to enhance the screen, and yet that was clear enough to be visible in the conference room and for us at home. That told me masses about the Vita hardware, the screen is bright and crisp and that was a 'wow' for me too. The other thing that was a 'wow' was how mature the Vita hardware was and the number of games running live on stage in a playable state.

Perhaps I'm easily impressed, but relative to MS who I might rate as a 'C' passing grade, this was at very least a B+.

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Fane1024
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:24:40 AM

The Vita screen even looked good in Home. OLED FTW.

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bebestorm
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:02:23 AM

@Worlds ITA with your first comment.. I cringed when he said Vita,its a sweet machine but I only play jrpgs on portables so I'll be waiting on jp developers.

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___________
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 5:52:41 AM

hows vitas price a shocking moment?
seriously if your that easily shocked.........
everyone knew they would be announcing its name and price point, its just common sense!
wheres the shocks we have come custom too?
wheres the gabe coming to there presser and saying the ps3 version will be the best console version?
honestly NOTHING out of sonys presser was even remotely shocking!

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ColonelKain
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:48:01 AM

Rockstar didn't show up again this year, so that's why Agent wasn't shown.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:50:09 AM

I disagree with you World. There were plenty of games (U3, R3, BI, NBA12) to appease the hardcore element.

Gaming is not just about hardcore anymore.

With some of the titles you mentioned, it's obvious they weren't ready yet.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:40:29 AM

Excuse me Mr Anonymous Cowherd? How is $249.99 for the PS Vita not shocking? the hardware in it outclasses ever smartphone available and things like the Xperia Play retail for something like double that amount without a contract, and that's only a single core CPU and GPU. Considering how much *you* thought the Vita would come it at, 250 USD would appear to me to qualify as at *very* least surprisingly low, which in the context of this discussion is as close to 'shocking moment' as I think we need get.

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packersfan66
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 4:19:56 PM

Yeah, all in all a decent e3. Nothing eye opening, but I'm not disappointed with the lack of content either. Vita at $249.99 and $299.99 was a nice sigh of relief, but I'm still never going to spend that much money for a handheld version of the real thing (that costs the same price).

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shadowpal2
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:06:13 PM

Thank you World...those were my frustrations with the conference. OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW this was better than Microsoft's conference...but overall it just got "meh..." near the end.

We already knew about the NGP's (I'm still going to call it that) capabilities ever since we saw it in Tokyo! Heck it was running Uncharted there... - now we just got to see it for one more time. And then the other NGP games they showed just wasn't appealing. I thought it would have been cool if they showed a bit of Gravity Daze since that thing looks as if it can truly implement the whole augmented reality thing.

We all knew it was going to be priced @ $250/$300...that honestly did not surprise me. I mean c'mon Sony has played the game over and over with Nintendo, they learned once with the PSP and a 2nd time with the PS3 (REGARDING PRICING) -> and now...they are definitely going after them. But kind of bummed out that they got rid of the memory storage =/

And ok as far as PS3 games though...yes there was Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, StarHawk and DUST 514...but maybe it's time for something else...instead of a TPS/FPS? And while Uncharted goes more under Action & Adventure...I still wanted a different genre. LIKE...AN RPG. Seriously, where on earth have they gone?

I'll repeat what World has asked...where was Last Guardian, AGENT, Versus XIII, and a new God of War? And ok...I was kind of waiting for Kevin Butler too, for some humor...though Tretton is quite charming at times ;)

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___________
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 8:26:09 AM

almost everything shown at E3 we had already seen.
how can you be shocked by a price, i mean seriously?
its definitely a excellent price for the device, but it certainly did not have the wow factor a new game would of had.
hell, GOW4 or KZ4 would of shocked people more then the NGPs price!

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Claire C
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:08:04 PM
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Really liked the Uncharted 3 demo, however, I think a few other games looked better (not that it doesn't look fantastic!!). So far my favorites from the show are..

Batman Arkham City
Bioshock Infinite
TES Skyrim
Assassin's Creed Revelation
Uncharted 3
Tomb Raider
Far Cry 3

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:23:02 PM

Assassin's Creed had the best Demo and the best Trailer at the show today. Period.

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Claire C
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:41:43 PM

Look up the gameplay demos of Batman AC and Skyrim too. They weren't at any of the big conferences, but they were stellar.

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Claire C
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:23:15 AM

PS: Far Cry 3 looked so good I went and bought FC2 (even though I've played it before) off Amazon for $16 brand new. =^.^=

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 4:11:56 AM

Finally I got to see it too, and Far Cry 3... One word. *wow*!

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Riku994
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:11:50 PM
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I'm sorry but the conference was a litle underwhelming for me.. The cool new TV has gotta be the best thing about it.

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Highlander
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:15:34 PM

PS Vita was the best thing. The TV cam a close second, especially with the dual view feature.

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Highlander
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:16:30 PM
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Jacks remark at the journalists at the start won't earn him friends there, but I loved it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:23:29 PM

The truth hurts.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:24:15 PM
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How big was that monitor did he say?

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sunspider13
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:34:17 PM

24 inches if I remember right.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:35:28 PM

they said 24" ... not very big, they couldve gone with a standard 32" monitor instead...maybe later on, since the tec so new and all :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:40:41 PM

Pffft. What am I gonna do with that use it as a fancy pizza plate?

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:06:13 AM

You wanted 32-inches in 3D for $499? Bloody hell, what more do you want Vita for $99.99? I loathe this constant entitlement minded crap from people who aren't willing to pay the actual price for something. If it costs $499, it costs $499, either save up, or buy something else.

5 up, 11 down

Claire C
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:20:10 AM

The TV is also bundled with 3D glasses and Resistance 3. ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:22:54 AM

If you think I feel entitled you are mistaken, but who games on a 24 inch screen these days? There's no point in even making one that small.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:22:26 AM

I'm with World. 24 inches is like the monitor on my office PC. Who games on a 24" today? Nevermind the price, they have to make it big enough to be relevant!

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:13:10 AM

Worlds, you were not the one demanding 32-inches at the same price point, unlike 'x_JoNaH_x'

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___________
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 5:56:22 AM

little touchy today high?
hes got a point 24 inches is just too small, i mean come on my freaking PC monitor is larger then that!
they should of gone for that at that price, but offer a larger screen at a slightly higher price point.
there going to loose allot of interest in that simply because its far too small!
ok for people playing in a bed room, but what about the people who want to play in the living room without spending 2+K on a conventional 3D TV?
great idea, poorly executed!

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mindmurderer69
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:18:41 AM

highlander he said nothing of the price i believe he was stating that the tech is so new that they for some reason they haven't applied this tech to a screen size most people use, true it will cost more for a 32+" but i would buy it...it seems they know they messed up with such a small screen especially since one of the points of the screen is multi-player action, that why they are bribing people with the game also.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:50:02 AM

@highlander: i wasnt demanding anything...i never said that i would've wanted a 32" at the same $499 price point....i just said that it would've been nice if they went with a 32" screen or bigger with an obviously higher price. But as i said the tech is so new that they probably want to see how well it does in the market first before they make bigger sizes...and to allow people to sample the tech without breaking the bank, so they went with a smaller screen size, to keep costs for everyone down.

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:18:45 AM

I agree with World. Who plays videogames on a 24" TV....now granted the 2 player mode is VERY interesting, but you'd have to buy another pair of $70 glasses for that. Doesn't seem worth it, IMO. Walmart was selling a Vizio 42" 3D TV the other day for 659.99. I'm still deciding if I should take the plunge into 3D, and if I do it'll be with the 42" not 24".

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:53:54 AM

Who games on a 24" TV? My children do. The TV in the living room is 65"(my TV), so a 24" TV will do quite nicely for a bedroom/office.

The multi-view screen is a Godsend.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:45:50 AM

I fail to see how pointing out the bleeding obvious to people whining about the size of the screen is being touchy.

You know what? I guess I must be the one being unrealistic to think that $499 is a pretty damn good price for a 24-inch full HD monitor with 3D and dual view capability, a set of 3D glasses and a copy of Resistance 3. I mean, far be it for me to suggest that someone whining about the size of the thing is being entitlement minded. If you are so concerned about the size of this *monitor* then go buy a regular 3D TV and stop whinging. Personally, I play on a 22-inch wide screen display by Asus, a 24-inch screen would look great by comparison, either would be perfectly big for single player gaming of any kind other than the main living room. I mean come on, this isn;t a freaking TV for your living room, it was described as a monitor for your desk, bedroom dormroom etc. If you are so demanding that you can't see how this is a great product idea, then go buy a 32-inch 3D TV and see whether you can find room on your desk, watch out for the sore neck you're going to get trying to play games on a screen that big 2-3 feet from your face.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:31:40 AM

If you live in a student flat or use your ps3 like one use a PC then sure, this may be a good deal.

But I dare say most of us use the ps3 connected to the tv in the livingroom, sitting in a sofa several meters away. And to those users this itty bitty tiny screen is *useless*, regardless of price, also because it needs to be used as a TV display.
So it's not a question of pricing, but usage. And this is, at best, a niche product only because of the size.

To try to make a really bad analogue: If a fully functional, high quality Sixaxis Sony controller the size of a lighter were sold for $3 USD it would, objectively speaking be a darn good deal. It's just... it's useless!

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sunspider13
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:38:27 PM
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It was a decent press conference but I do feel that they could have jammed more into it. It felt like it was all about Vita at the end. But all in all light years better than M$ conference. I'm interested with the new console that nintendo is going to unveil tomorrow. If it's a glorified wii then I will be highly upset. That and I'm hoping that they will have less shovelware to go with it. We shall see.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:42:14 PM

I think the shovelware thing will depend on whether or not 3rd party devs will put 360/PS3s on the Wii2 as well. I think because those games couldn't go on Wii it just filled with crap that used the wand in some way some how.

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Fane1024
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:50:48 PM

I foresee about 2 years of cross-platform games and then the Wii 2 gets left behind (again).

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Claire C
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:52:08 PM

I'm excited for Nintendo's conference too just to see what they unveil as the Wii 2. Will be very, very interesting no matter what.

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PorkChopGamer
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:38:36 PM
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Uncharted 3 looked boring as all heck. Dang near 10 minutes of nothing. I'm not sure why ND tries to put so many different animations while he's walking, but he looks like he's having a serious bout with some muscle disorder. I thought the trailer would save it, but, unh uh. Neat visuals, but that's about it. I thought they were going to 'blow our minds at E3'? Then they play another Uncharted later on the Vita for 5 more minutes. My goodness.

Sony had a pretty weak show. Not MS weak, but still. Nintendo will probably put both of them to bed tomorrow. (today)

3 up, 15 down

WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:44:44 PM

I thought Deception looked great. Your interpretation is kind of strange, more environmental immersion and realistic physics are looking great to me. The water alone could cause a techie Geek a nergasm.

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Claire C
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:45:54 PM

I think Drake's walking/running animation spasms you describe are due to the fact that the ship is rocking back and forth so he's trying to keep his balance. o.O

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Fane1024
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:54:11 PM

I much prefer stiff, robotic movements myself. I reminds me of how much better games from past generations were.

;)

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PorkChopGamer
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:58:11 PM

Hmm, well they need to go back to the drawing board on that because it looks terrible. It doesn't look good at all.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:04:19 AM

Yeah, I've always known there was something seriously wrong with you.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:08:14 AM

If you had liked it, I would be worried about it, but since you have found a merit-less complaint to harp on about, I am secure int he knowledge that it was wonderful.

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:21:39 AM

And there's the 'professionalism' I've grown to admire...

The game looked good, but the animation seemed off. Like when Drake walks by a door, his hand flicks out. Why? Who walks like that? The animation didn't fit the rolling of the ship that well, and it looked like his body was all over the place. And the trailer was pretty lousy. Most was from the previous scene shown. Oh wait, we have a city. But Drake's running down a friggin' tight hallway. Okay. A horse? Cool! Oh, it's in a dang tight, linear canyon. Meh. I think I will dub this series 'One-charted' because there is only one way to go, and one way to do anything. Now the game may be better. But, right now, I'm not impressed.

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Claire C
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:25:48 AM

Uh oh, here we go.. =)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:46:52 AM

Whatever you say, champ.

And if there's nothing here to admire, you're MORE than welcome to take off. See if you can find some other place where people will ever understand what the hell you're talking about.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:26:43 AM

If I was on a sinking ship I'd probably reach out to some doorframes too. But, whatever, you need help or something.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:28:07 AM

@Pork: Thou shall not criticize Uncharted. That is the holy cow here. I have been punished in the past and learnt my lesson, now you get it.

Thou shall not criticize Uncharted, or unconditional rage and furious anger will fall upon thee.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:12:49 AM

Go ahead and criticize Uncharted, but come up with something that a reasonable human being might say that actually makes sense and has the backing of intelligent thought.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:14:21 AM

Beamboom, before you defend, at least check to see whether the poor downtrodden chop actually has a point, or if he's just trolling.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:33:01 AM

I wholeheartly agree with what he says about the linearity, as this is the core issue I got with it too. I find him to be way too picky about the animations though. Personally I think Uncharted is visually stunning, and that goes for the movements as well.

But my opinion on this is irrelevant, imo! Cause just look at all the crap that's being posted about other games, with COD being the prime example of course. How much of that is analytic and objective? In my opinion there is an *obvious* difference in;

A) How exclusives are treated compared to multiplats
, and
B) How Uncharted is treated compared to pretty much the rest of the entire world.

If you voice *one* word of criticism, objective or not, elegantly worded or blunt as a bat, you immediately are called insane, idiot, jerk, xbot and whatnot, and get *hammered* with thumbs down (or, used to be. We've grown a bit more sober with the thumb usage lately, something I'm very happy with), even with good chances of the owner of the site pretty much asking you to sod off.
That's why I call it a holy cow, cause really, it is!

(Just for the sake of getting my argument across I'm being a bit categoric here now, there are always exceptions, of course)

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 4:02:29 AM

... although, I have to admit I can't help but laugh when reading you guys wordings, "the backing of intelligent thought", and "the poor downtrodden chop" :D

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:46:50 AM

Thanks, Beamboom, but I wished you hadn't posted, my friend. Now Underdog will swoop in and say THAT is why I have the 'gumption' to respond now.

@ World
I think the term is Uncanny Valley. When something attempts to look real, but starts to look very fake. That is what I see here. Like I asked above 'Why did ND put SO many animations in the walking sequence?'. Personally, I think they overdid it and it doesn't look good to ME. And Uncharted is too linear for my tastes because I cannot play it more than once, but it is an enjoyable experience on the first run. But, at times, it's as scripted as a telemarketer. (and before someone yells 'Dynasty Warriors!', I EXPECT that from that series just like I expect to throw a footbal playing Madden)

My wife sat down and watched the first little bit of the press conference. When I said ' Uncharted 3. Yes!' She was like 'Alright' and got up to walk away. I said 'Babe, what's going on? Her exact words were 'I know what's going to happen. Drake will fall off some stuff, say something funny, shoot some people and something will explode. Call me when they have something new on.' Sure enough, that was pretty much the demo.

Now, I know that may not be a fancy enough an explanation for the self-professed geniuses around here, but that's what I got.

@ Highlander
How am I trolling? Abject trolling would be if I went and posted in EVERY Uncharted article about how I dislike something. Kinda how you and others do for Square and CoD again and again and again and again even in articles that are not wholly pertaining to it.? I hate Twisted Metal. HATE it. Never liked it after BUYING four games. But I challenge you to go in any TM article and see a post from myself saying that. I've expressed displeasure with Killzone 3 and WKC, but I did it in ONE article. Every time I see you write ' Square is dead! Level 5! The NEW kings of RPGS! ' I don't attack you. I disagree with that statement but you are entitled to say it. I may thumbs you down , though. Haha.

@ Ben
I like how you write but in this comments section, you tend to bully people and try to diminish and discourage them if they don't do something you deem the 'right' way. Like when AK278 said that multiplayer truly began in the arcade you implicated him and everyone else who enjoyed arcades as 'pale friendless virgins'. Now if someone said that about RPG fans, you'd probably blow a gasket. And then ,somehow, curling would come up. Haha. Just ribbing you. Or like when somethingrandom was defending COD, you blasted him for doing that but you have no words of discourage for posters who put TWICE as much effort into bashing it to the point that fans cannot have a friendly conversation without wading through tons of hate and thumb downs. Be consistent, fair, and try not to take things so friggin' personal when it comes to opinions. Life's too short for that.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:26:41 AM

And your wife's prediction is validation of Uncharted's shortcomings? Maybe she's an expert? (Im giving you the benefit of the doubt) I understand not everyone will like Uncharted...but you cant just say it sucks and give attention to detail as an excuse.

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:53:47 AM

Haha, she indulges me, but she has no real interest in games. But someone who has maybe watched a collective half hour of playtime of the two games, it proves that it's more of the same. I'm not knocking that, but it's just not impressive to me. And it's not the detail. It's the linearity and overuse of scripted events, I have a problem with. Example, The Chateau scene when Drake's foot gets stuck and he has to shoot as Sully tries to free him. It would be awesome to me as a random mechanic, not knowing when and if it will happen, but in this game it will happen at the SAME time, at the SAME point every time I play it. That takes the fun out of it for me.

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4 up, 3 down

maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:55:39 AM

I am shocked PCG is still here.

Really.

4 up, 3 down

PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:05:20 AM

Alive and kicking, sweetheart. Alive and kicking.

4 up, 3 down

Underdog15
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:18:04 AM

"Now Underdog will swoop in and say THAT is why I have the 'gumption' to respond now."

Nah. I'm happy just calling you an ass and leaving it at that. I might not agree with Beamboom all the time, but I at least like him and respect his opinion.

It's easier to respect someone who isn't a complete dick. It's even easier to respect him when he regularly brings up points that make me think and consider whether my points should be reconsidered! You've never done that. I think you're just the type to get a sliver of an idea, then cling to it and expand it without any reason or objectivity to expand upon it. It's 3rd grade research.

I actually wasn't going to comment at all because I didn't see any of conference due to playing a baseball game. And I haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

Unlike some porkers around here (or should that have been a singular noun?), I only comment when I feel like I actually have a legitimate point.

Thanks to your assery, I do now. You are a dick, and that's a very potent point that I raise. Why call me out when I've said nothing to this point?

P.s. The difference between you and me, PCG, is that when I dislike a game, I can still see quality. You think highly of games you like, and poorly of games you don't. I'm not a fan even a little bit of God of War, but I at least recognize it's a freakin' sweet production. And I fully understand why people go banana's over it!

On the other hand, I don't really like Dynasty Warriors either. Maybe something is wrong with me since I see absolutely no redeeming qualities in that title. Perhaps you could enlighten me on why that franchise is better than Uncharted? I'd love to hear your objective approach to that one. I love that so far your only defense for it is that you "expect" it to be the way it is. Tell me, please, why it's better than Uncharted.

See... I just don't think you're capable of doing that. You're just loud with a chip on your shoulder. The saddest part is, you don't quite have the articulation to express the legitimacy of that chip. That's why people gang up on you. It's like listening to that annoying nasal-y kid with way too much to say about his cool niche card collection using his prowess of collecting as an excuse to gain your friendship and bump his friend count up to 2 beyond that imaginary friend he can be heard muttering to on the bus on the way home from school - probably talking about how much of a meanie the teacher is because chances are, he doesn't even get good grades which means he's not even the kind of dork that will eventually prove to all the jock kids that someday he'll be rich from his cognitive prowess in technology. A sad existence that will leave your manic depressive single mother bewildered and embarrassed. Even the nicest kid on the block can't help but shove your twinkie in your nose given the opportunity. He's just THAT unliked. And he wouldn't even be that bad if he would JUST learn not to be so inwardly focused on a self that shouldn't be focused on. Sure he has actual talent somewhere, but his obsessive thinking disallows him from ever.... EVER... finding his actual potential.

You are that kid.

Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/7/2011 9:33:03 AM

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:26:00 AM

PorkChop, let me explain something to you-

You did this entirely on purpose. You knew exactly what sort of response you would get, and you did it so you could dump on everyone and come across as high and mighty. That's first.

Second, I can pretty much guarantee you didn't even know the animations in the E3 trailer were due to the rocking boat, and then you desperately tried to backtrack. But of course, you're not capable of admitting that.

Criticism is in how it's worded. Criticism has respect for something, and others who hear the negative feedback. Needless bashing based on nothing of substance to incite problems? That's what you do. You may notice that you seem to be the only one who thinks he's getting "bullied" around here. You also may notice that just about everyone on the planet disagrees with everything you say and more importantly, HOW you say it.

I've told you about this before. But obviously, you have no intention of changing. So maybe just adopt the golden rule- if you don't have anything nice to say about something, don't say it.

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:37:11 AM

WOW. Simmer down, tough guy. Just giving you aa hard time because once you said that was the only way I would respond is if someone agreed with me and gave me the gumption to continue. No need for the name calling and inuslting my intelligence. Though, I find it hilarious and am completely used to the 'intellectuals' here sinking to that level. A simple question would have sufficed.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:42:24 AM

I'd like you to point out the "name-calling," please. Nowhere did that happen.

This is what you do. You purposely post something that causes problems, then act like the poor put-upon victim when it happens. Constantly trying to prove your superiority to everyone here is getting annoying.

Quick, run over to a Microsoft forum and explain your problems with the Gears 3 trailer at the press conference. Then accuse them all of stomping on your opinion.

I have no problem with a single solitary member other than YOU. I don't like people who exist solely to cause problems in the community. But I guess you can't understand that from my viewpoint, because obviously, the only viewpoint that matters is yours.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/7/2011 9:43:51 AM

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:43:27 AM

I am simmered. That last part on my edited post was the most fun I've had posting here in a while.

@Ben
I called him names. I actually just dedicated an entire personality metaphor for him.

@PCG
"Just giving you aa hard time because once you said that was the only way I would respond is if someone agreed with me and gave me the gumption to continue."

And I was right too. As soon as someone agreed with me, you posted a monster of irrelevant BS, calling out people for no good reason. See? I told you I try to post only when I know what I'm talking about. Otherwise, you get nothing from me. Another thing that sets us apart... I've apologized a number of times in the past to various people, and if I'm not sure of something, I tend to post my posts in the form of a question to someone.

Why, just the other day, Lawless taught me something about FFIV I didn't know! And I thought I knew everything about FF!

Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/7/2011 9:50:20 AM

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:49:03 AM

Beamboom, he's criticizing the walking animation of a character trying to traverse the desk of a ship adrift in a storm. If you are ever in the unhappy position of being on a pitching ship adrift in a storm, you will be reaching for doorways and adjusting your gate with nearly every step. Chop's central criticism was pointless, and inflammatory. He made no points about linearity in that comment I replied to, or that you defended.

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:51:10 AM

Ben, I knew the animations were for the rocking boat, which is why they paused and let Drake sway a bit. It still didn't look good to me. What would you have me do? Keep anything against Uncharted to myself? That's what you're suggesting. And why not say that to others who just repeat 'Call of Doodie' over and over?

And yes, I know that posting dislike for ANY Sony game will get heat around here, but that is what this section is for. I should be ahle to say it. But not to be attacked personally when I'm commenting on a game. Just because it's written eloquently does not make it any less uncivil. That's not me being high aand mighty. That's me living my golden rule: Do unto others. I respect others opinions as jaded as they may be and I don't attack others personally, and I expect the same.

And you don't bully me. But I've seen others capitulate of fear of banishment.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:54:21 AM

Dear PorkChop....

This is why I said you were trolling (and you were).

"PorkChop, let me explain something to you-

You did this entirely on purpose. You knew exactly what sort of response you would get, and you did it so you could dump on everyone and come across as high and mighty. "

When you post something that is deliberately inflamming and inciting of a response. When you post an opinion that you know to be a) far from the accepted view, and b) extremely likely to earn a quick, heated or passionate response in a given discussion forum you are trolling. by any definition, your original post and much of your response in this discussion since has been nothing short of trolling, you know it, I know it, and Ben knows it. Unfortunately, some people indulge folks like you more than I do, or Underdog does, and they think we're being hard-butts (being polite) for jumping on your trollish behavior. That's fine, but you know after 20+ years online dealing with folks charging others to cross bridges, I know a troll when I see one.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:57:37 AM

Whatever. If you want to be purposely obtuse, so be it. You can't seem to figure out what constitutes constructive criticism, which NOBODY here ever assaults anyone for.

Just stop causing problems in my community.

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:03:09 AM

Let me make this simple and only one word answers will be enough.

Am I not to voice my honest opinion about any Sony game on this site just because I know it will be disliked?

That's it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:13:10 AM

'sigh'

You're not to do so until you learn how to write something without being purposely inflammatory. People post negative things about all games all the time. You seem to be the only one who has problems.

This can't be that difficult. It just can't.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:20:38 AM

HighLander: That's not exactly right. Quoting, "we have a city. But Drake's running down a friggin' tight hallway. Okay. A horse? Cool! Oh, it's in a dang tight, linear canyon. Meh. I think I will dub this series 'One-charted' because there is only one way to go, and one way to do anything." - this is about linearity, this is using examples to illustrate an overall problem with these kind of games in general and Uncharted in particular. And this, like it or not, is essentially what I've said earlier too.

But other than that, speaking of storm on the water, I think this is a "storm in a waterglass". ;-)

Last edited by Beamboom on 6/7/2011 10:21:16 AM

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:20:57 AM

Apparently, Trolls also sidestep any and all legitimate criticisms; never actually responding to good points. Either that or he simply cannot grasp what Ben is talking about.

PCG... out of curiosity... Do you have Asperger Syndrome? You don't seem to notice social cues or understand the importance of tact. (no offense to people with it. My wife's cousin has it, but he makes a conscious effort around it. Nearly impossible, but at least he tries...)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:24:21 AM

I also absolutely despise this belief that every single game has to be free roaming now.

Linearity allows us to TELL A STORY. It allows us to experience a cinematic story with developed characters. If Uncharted went free-roaming, I'd be pissed. It would entirely ruin it.

I'm surprised people will complain about shooters like CoD being the "same ol'" when at the same time, they basically want every game to have the same elements.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:40:32 AM

That's a legit argument indeed Ben, and I can only speak for myself, but I do *not* want all games to be the same. Quite the contrary, I want more diversity. Much more than is the case today. I want to see more risks taken, more truly *new* ideas come to life.

But that also means that I want, yes *want*, a world where I will not like every title released. Many of them will not be bought by me, but for the right reason: Because it's not my style, and *not* because they are crap!

Last edited by Beamboom on 6/7/2011 11:48:38 AM

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:46:34 PM

.......does this mean PorkChopGamer is disqualified from the E3 contest?

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somethingrandom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 5:27:02 PM

There are a lot of hypocrites in this reply stream...

Also surprised to see Highlander make a spelling error.

That's my two cents. Enjoy!

Last edited by somethingrandom on 6/7/2011 5:27:43 PM

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Underdog15
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:43:29 AM

@smothingrandom

Your 2 cents did nothing at all beyond make everyone wonder if it was them you are insulting.

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 09, 2011 @ 9:43:04 AM

Explain. Why are people hypocrites?

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Underdog15
Friday, June 10, 2011 @ 3:46:54 PM

Yeah. That's what I thought.

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556pineapple
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:47:21 PM
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I had to work, but I'll be sure to check it out tomorrow probably. At least the highlights at any rate. I guess I'll have to judge how good it was for myself. Personally, I got bored last year listening to Move and 3D talk for an hour, but that's just me.

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kingjose
Monday, June 06, 2011 @ 11:56:51 PM
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At least the vita is gonna be a decent price

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cLoudou
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:04:06 AM
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So nice I need to see it twice.

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Geobaldi
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:17:51 AM
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The biggest news of the day for me today was hearing more info about Dust 514. Since I'm an EVE Online player I've been following the development of that one. Going to be nice giving command orders from ships in space to my fellow console players on the ground.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:27:34 AM

Never even heard of EVE online, what is it?

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Fane1024
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:29:07 AM

Starship MMO. Geobaldi can maybe give more details. I don't play it.

Last edited by Fane1024 on 6/7/2011 2:30:14 AM

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:35:37 AM

Seriously, World? EVE Online is a space mmo that's been around for AGES, must be close to a decade by now?
If I'm not mistaken it's developed in Iceland even, or thereabouts.

But Beobaldi, "Dust 514" what's that? An upcoming ps3 mmo?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:14:54 AM

I don't play games on PC anymore and MMOs aren't really my thing so that passed me right by.

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:23:38 AM

Dust looks like it has TONS of potential. You guys should go read about it in the PS Blog if you have any interest in FPS or sci-fi (and I know most of us geeks fit one of the 2 bills).

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:52:49 AM

Yeah I agree, done some research now and it looks very, very promising indeed. Seems 2012 will continue the trend of 2011 regarding quality releases.

And I have no words to describe how happy I am about the overall tendency of new games being sci-fi themed!

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Geobaldi
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:54:51 AM

World - EVE has won the MMO of the year award the last two years now. It has a really high learning curve and is not for everyone. It takes some real dedication to progress in that game as there's no real power leveling and it has the largest MMO world of all MMO's on the market with over 5000 solar systems currently. You're free to play as you see fit be it trading, military, pirating, etc., since you develop your pilot to be what you want him to be. And there's no griefing since the game mechanics encourage that type of gameplay from those that seek it out. To get a good idea of the game just check this vid out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBWi6KUH9mk

Beamboom - yes it's an upcoming MMOFPS that takes place in the EVE Online universe. It's console only but it allows console gamers and PC gamers to cooperate together and alter the EVE universe. PC gamers will take control of space and all the space battles, corporation business, crafting and other intensive details while hiring mercenaries, the console players in this case, to fight other corporations on the planets surface for control of the planet itself and the resources it provides.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:56:15 AM

Beamboom, Dust 514 was shown at the Sony conference along with Eve, as an integrated product bringing the PS3 game and the established MMO together.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:02:03 AM

I did not see that! Dang they need to cut that video up in smaller segments, skipping in it is almost impossible!

But *yay*, this sounds *awsome*!

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:26:48 AM

I endured G4's leanings so I could watch live...It was a good conference, despite some people's expectations of other things.

Dust looked good, as did the upcoming Star Trek game.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:24:46 AM
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New firmware just went live for PS3 - version 3.65 is up now. It's an optional update that increases stability and renames an XMB option for save files for PS Minis to be save files for Minis/PSP games.

Last edited by Highlander on 6/7/2011 12:29:31 AM

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:45:55 AM

Thanks for the 411 on it Highlander, as I was wondering what was in it.

IMO, all these console maker's should at least give us a brie Cliff Note's version as to what we're D/L'ing.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:04:11 PM

Definitely. Especially if the update is an optional one.

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Bloodysilence19
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:43:36 AM
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i think the conference was B at best. i just was expecting a omg stuff like last year when the showed so many exclusives for this year, having the awesome Kevin Butler give the best speech ever in e3 and having Gabe Newell come on stage and pretty much eat his own words. this year vita of course was the big announcement people were most excited for. im very please sony did their pricing right this time with their handheld device instead of that ridiculous price they charged for the psp go. other than that it just felt like that OMG! was missing in it. maybe tokyo gameshow will be different and they will announce many things they couldn't at e3. hey at least Sony didn't talk about their motion control the whole time *cough cough* MS

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somethingrandom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:38:54 AM
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Kind of ironic that a game called Uncharted is perfectly linear. Your way is completely CHARTED out for you... lol

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:58:05 AM

Here it something random.

Naughty Dog has said that the Uncharted series is NOT an open world game.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:37:37 AM

lol, you could almost say it's reasonable to "expect it to be that way".

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:02:23 AM

Well, unlike a role playing game, or a sand box game, the Uncharted games are essentially interactive movie serials. They have very strong story, and chapters that are laid out - almost like the old movie serials, or perhaps an interactive novel. The story is linear, you should expect the game to be linear, it's the nature of the game. there are open areas within a given chapter so you can explore and approach objectives in a different manner, but really, the game can never be an open world sand box game, that's not the way it is made, or intended. Expecting otherwise is really not very realistic.

Honestly, why does everyone think that every game should be a completely open world/sand box game? I mean I get the point, I was one of those criticizing FFXIII for it's linearity. However with FF games there is plenty of context to make such a complaint valid. Besides which it's an RPG and they are in general replete with backtracking, sidequests and towns to explore, FFXIII had very little of this which only emphasized it's linear nature.

Uncharted is very specifically a story based game where each chapter advances the story towards the final climax. The Multi-player element is arena based and open in that sense, but that is not what the game itself is about.

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somethingrandom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 5:33:31 PM

Oh, sorry, what I mean to say is that Uncharted is the MOST linear of all of the linear games I have ever played. Metal Gear Solid 4 managed to tell a good story without being entirely linear.. Why not Uncharted?

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:40:49 AM
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psV was slick, great price, and AMAZING features. Finally with 2 dualsticks.

Great conference. Only thing that I agree made it not as good as last year's was the lack of secret exclusives...

I'm guessing the Tokyo Game Show will be the big event this year (it has been pretty weak for many years now).

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YashaZz
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:56:45 AM
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I'm going to save up for this bundle. Looks great!

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LittleBigMidget
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:43:07 AM
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Eh, it was OK. expected waaaaay more.

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:54:21 AM
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Where did the 5 hr press conference statement come from. What an ass. The e3's ps3 was better, but not by much. Especially when you suspect a LENGTHY press conference.

No disrespect, but can someone please explain to me why the big three console companies can't hold a much longer press conference? They can have a press conference Anywhere and Whenever they want. They don't have to be in the same auditorium as the other video game publishers.

It's just a once a year event. Sort of like the summer of triple A action movies.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:03:33 AM

2+ hours of actual presnetations and then there were onstage performances, further demos and videos and an opportunity to play any of the titles shown on PS Vita, PSP and PS3 at the event itself. All told it lasted 5 hours, and was (no doubt) a catered event also.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 4:37:24 AM
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Wow - a Move Star Trek phaser! *That's *so* gonna be mine! :D

But when will there be a *good* Star Trek game released? I just have no confidence in movie games...

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:57:18 AM

If that trailer is indicative of what's to come, I think we'll be fine!!

It had such a Dead Space feel to it.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:57:18 AM

I agree, but it looked very much to be built on cut scenes and moments like that. I need a bit more than that before I dare hope.

However, the very idea of a Spock/Kirk storyline coop is in itself extremely promising.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:04:32 AM

LOL! I thought that. I've always said (and bear in mind I am a huge Trek fan) that if you want to sell something, find an excuse to stamp Star Trek on it and you will sell millions.

However, a phaser shaped controller is....way cool.

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tlpn99
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:00:58 AM
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I am with World on this one while some may say wow we seen R3 and Uncharted 3 again but we already knew about those.

I was waiting for the blow me away kinda moment. Hearing sly 4 was being done I already knew about it as i'd heard it on here before.

I am not saying I won't get a PSV jst not day 1. I did like the video I seen of the game game where the guy was using the back touch screen to move a ball or something round the screen could have been Katamari or something similar but it looked interesting enough.

I did enjoy seing the videos for Battlefield 3 and MW3, recently seen one for Driver San Francisco too.I think deep down we were all waiting on a MGS announcement (knew it wasn't going to happen) but it could have and God Of War 4 which never happened either, same as The Last Guardian. Oh well enough gaming goodes to keep us going this year and no doubt some will be pushed back into 2012. so plenty to look forward too.

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___________
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:08:43 AM
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WORST E3 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1st all the technical hitches, wasted 200MBs downloading all the spaces so i could watch it in home, then 20 minutes staring at a black screen!
got sick of waiting and tried to watch it off the blog.
that was not any better either, for some reason first time i started the video it started at jack inviting kaz out to show the NGP, then i re loaded the page and it started at them talking about move for infamous 2!
was so slow too, 2nd time i thought stuff it this will do but then every few words jack got out it would freeze to buffer!
what happened sony, i thought you said you have the best streaming service out there!
yea the best, thats why it started twice, half way through the show, and it was slow as a slug!

then i FINALLY found the full thing on gametrailers, watched through it and........ IS THAT IT!!!!!!!!??????????
wheres GOW4?
wheres syphon filter 4( I TOLD YA!)
wheres the getaway 3?
wheres heavenly sword 2?
wheres those 4 announced games sony santa monica were suppose to announce?
one was dust 2014 i think it was called, so wheres the other 3?

wheres all the new game announcements?
all they had was dust 2014 i think it was called, a new NGP game, and a new star trek game!
WOW, THAT WAS TOTALY WORTH ALL THE HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WORST E3 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wheres the big shockers we have become accustom to?
wheres the gabe coming out and announcing valves finally bringing there games to the ps3 moment?
year in year out we have had at least one announcement that blows everyones minds, everyone says HOLY SH*T I CANT BELIEVE THAT JUST HAPPENED!
then re wind the tape to make sure they saw that they think they saw, and its remembered forever!
what will be that moment from this year.......

M$, and EA were not much better either.
i mean the best part of M$s conference was ghost recon future soldier i have to admit the kinect features were really cool!
only good part of EAs presser was insomniacs reveal, but not really worth it because no gameplay was shown just a teaser trailer no real info.
thats it?
for the industries biggest event!?
come on, i was expecting SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more then that!
:(
cant believe im saying this, but looks like ubisoft will win E3!
only company to announce a few unexpected games, and show off some really cool features.
i watched every second of there presser, M$, EA and sonys i was scanning through bits because they were boring!
cant believe im saying this, but E3s open for ninty to steal the show a second year coming!
hey, rarer things have happened........ ok that was a lie.
;)
god, when the fate of E3 rests in nintys hands you really know your in trouble!
i mean if you dont bring your a game to E3, where do you bring it?
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:33:17 AM

Firstly can you learn to write in a calm manner.

And secondly it was now way near as bad as last year, I think I was a little disapointed as i was expecting Square-Enix to appear there, but obviously they have there own show.

Uncharted 3 and Resistance 3 both looked great. I sold on both of them. Also I thought they did a great job demonstrating the PSVita, playing games from PS3 to PS..PSV seems a good way to go.

I tried the Home E3 booth too, never worked at all, but i watched it all in HD on the PSBlog anyway so i was fine. The only real boring part was about move, which i just did not care for.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:00:06 AM

The day "_________" learns to actually use capitalization and avoid the negative posts is the day hell freezes over.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:11:49 AM

Worst E3 post ever!!!!

Seriously, coherent thought please?

You know, Sony spent the best part of two hours talking about upcoming games and significant products and still it wasn't enough? I mean really? OK, they didn't mention *every* game, they didn't show *every* game, but let's face it, had they tried to, their conference would have been nothing more than a mish-mash of 1 minute clips. You are putting on a show, each segment has to make sense, you choose the upcoming blockbuster exclusive games - such as Uncharted 3 and resistance 3 for some special treatment. You spend a long time talking about the hardware, services and games for your upcoming refresh of your primary hand held gaming product. And even on the Vita the games presented were again primarily exclusives that are well established system selling games.

I honestly cannot see what else Sony were supposed to do in their conference. Perhaps next time Tretton should just step up, say "Roll the tape" and sit down for a 120 minute montage of every game coming soon to a PS3/PSV near you?

::rolls eyes::

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:22:33 AM

... I do think the UBISoft conference were good, though. I found myself watching larger segments on that conference on their homepage than I did with this Sony recording.
And Far Cry 3... *wow*.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:03:07 PM

Haven't seen Ubisofts stuff yet. I'll try to catch highlights, it sounds good.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:00:34 PM

Oh man you gotta see the Far Cry demo they did there.
Again... *wow*.
;)

Last edited by Beamboom on 6/7/2011 3:01:03 PM

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SolidFantasy
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:25:05 PM

Captain negative strikes again!

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___________
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 8:37:05 AM

when they show mostly games we know about, then spend the rest of the show on the NGP how am i suppose to react?
no ones still answered my question.
wheres the gabe coming up and announcing portal 2 is coming to the ps3?
EVERY E3 theres massive shocking announcements, this years was as shocking and entertaining as watching the grass grow!
especially after all the rumors of syphon filter, GOW4, QDs new game, a new medievil game, MGS5.
what happened to the 4 titles sony SM were suppose to announce?
E3s the industries BIGGEST GAMING SHOW!
its like having the Geneva car convention, and the biggest most amazing car is a freaking ford fiesta!
if you dont bring your A game to E3, then where do you bring it?
i would be singing a different tune if this was TGS, or gamescom, but this is E3, the worlds biggest gaming convention!
id be like having a spike game of the year award show and having zero game announcements!

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whosthedoc
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 11:57:56 AM

How about this for a jaw droper. Sony is happpy to announce that ATT will be the exclusive provider for the VITA. That went over like a lead balloon, full of lead, tied to your foot and dropped into the ocean.

Name - VITA, strike one. Carrier - ATT, strike two. Not a great start for a new system. Hopefully $250 and Uncharted will save this ship.

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sniperflash
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:36:11 AM
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the only thing i found shocking was that the psvita is gonna have party chat and they are not gonna put it on the ps3 that would have been cool if you ask me

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:37:43 AM

Agreed.

Only reason my friends game on 360 instead of PS3 is all because of party chat. They still think Halo is the greatest game ever too, think Uncharted 2 is "meh".

I really don't see their logic.

One thing I do know is that PS3 needs party chat, and it needs it now!!! Otherwise, I'll never play with friends online. (Stupid friends)

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:46:49 AM

Did they explicit say that it would *not* come for the ps3? I did not hear that, but I admit I skipped a lot in that video (it was waaaaaaay too boring... Sorry...).

Unless stated so I'd find it strange if it's not coming for the ps3 too, eventually. But perhaps, to give th ngp a little bit of extra whomp on launch day they will wait with upgrading the ps3 until that day comes.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:33:50 AM

I heard a rumor that Sony was looking into implementing Skype to enable cross chat but MS got it now (and already making a mess of things)so i guess we'll never know

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:36:44 AM

Skype is already on the psp - but surely that can't be what they mean by cross gaming chat??

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Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:10:30 AM

sony needs cross game chat on the ps3. it makes getting a game togeteher so much easier, plus people have been begging for it for years. apparently it's a bigger technicical challenge for sony than it leads on. they must not have the bandwiidth or something.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:17:44 AM

The chat audio streams would be client-to-client plus the log on/off handing is already done with psn so it can't be related to bandwidth or server capacity.
My best guess is that it is related to the multitasking challenge of having two separate programs (the running game + chat software) both accessing the audio hardware (especially the mic) at the same time... Maybe?
Pure speculation of course.

Last edited by Beamboom on 6/7/2011 9:24:01 AM

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:17:16 AM

Adding cross game chat is vastly differnet to adding the existing in-game chat, or chat features in XMB mode. For cross game chat, there has to be a complete voice chat client that can be resident in memory at the same time as the game and the rest of the OS. It's not enough to put app hooks into the OS so devs can add the feature. For it to be real cross game chat it has to be game independent and has to work with all existing games.

Sony has done a great job in reducing the memory footprint of the resident portion of the OS to help game devs. If they threw in a significant chunk of new code to handle cross game chat it would eat into the memory budget for the resident OS. Considering the memory available, it would be extremely difficult to find the additional room needed from what is currently committed to the OS. It's not like there are lot's of pointless OS services remaining resident.

As much as many people want cross game chat, it's more than likely not going to happen.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:14:47 AM

I keep forgetting the ram bottleneck on the PS3.

Oh well. PS4 then.

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TheAgingHipster
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:19:05 AM
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I'm just bummed that the new FF announcement Ben teased didn't happen......

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:38:55 AM

SquareEnix has yet to do their presentation. Here's hoping!

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:17:45 AM

Not every game announcement for the PS3 can be doe in a single press conference by Sony.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 7:27:22 AM
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I agree with many of you here, but I think you're being a bit harsh on Sony.

Sure, FF XIII Versus didn't get the spotlight, nor did Last Guardian, Twisted Metal or Agent.

But I think there was more than enough to satisfy the gamer inside me, and with a new hardware launch, it's no wonder that it hogged the spotlight for some time!! Sony are just promoting their new wares, can you blame them?!?!

As for Move, I thought it was awesome to see many developers throwing support behind it. Ken Levine's speech hit a nerve in a good way by addressing people who doubted the Move and saying that he was once like them, and now loves it!!

I reckon FF XIII Versus will get a big showing next year, and while I miss Kevin Butler, I think Sony is being wise and drawing him back a bit so he doesn't become old and stale too quick. Good idea.

All in all, Sony's was a good show. Nothing spectacular, but effective and satisfying nonetheless. MS' show was an improvement on last year's, but not by much. The Halo 4 trailer certainly knocked it up a few notches for fans though. Trusty Halo, the ultimate fallback strategy.

Now for Nintendo. Let's see if they can blow us away like they did last year!!!

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:26:53 AM

I thought the show was solid. If you were grading it on, or expecting a ton of new exclusive Sony-first-party announcements you might have come away a bit disappointed.

That being said, they touched base on almost everything I was hoping they would- HD collections, Sly 4, sick Uncharted 3 trailer, Vita price point. Wish they showed a little more Starhawk gameplay, and twisited Metal- but there is always the actual show floor for that.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:37:48 AM

Why would they show FF versus 13? That game is multiplat and im sure Sony is not too happy about SquareEnix's change of heart (opinion not based on fact).

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:22:58 AM

The funny thing about the Move talk was that in contrast to Kinect, Move is seen as adding elements to mainstream games, but is completely optional in those games. The Move controller still features all the same controls and buttons that a DS3 has, so even if a player is using the move controller set, the game doesn't have to function any differently than with a DS3.

That's one reason I don't mind too much when Sony talks of adding move abilities to a game. the other aspect is that move specific games actually make good use of the controller, and thanks to the 'buttons'- whatever they are - the controller allows the player to do things without shouting things like 'Lightsaber ON!'.

Sony mentioned 3D a lot too, which I think is kind of overlooked. I was thinking about this. 10-15 years ago it was all about VR. People thought that VR would be the next big thing. Fastforward to today.

PS3, with full 3D and Move controls in the same game. Think about it. You are playing a game in real 3D (even with the active shutter glasses for extra VR credibility). But more than that, you are acting in three dimensions thanks to the controller. That is exactly what people were talking about almost as science fiction just a decade or so ago. Are we so jaded that we can't see how ridiculous this is?

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vicious54
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:50:57 AM
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I thought what Sony showed at the conference was great but I hate how there are no real surprises anymore. I am definitely going to buy the Vita, crazy how much it offers for only $250. Before the conference started on G4, I looked like Adam Sessler was talking to Jessica Chobot about Sony bashing. The faces he made were hilarious whenever she would talk.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:23:49 AM

Jessica Xbot?

;)

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sunspider13
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:26:53 AM
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I was happy with the press conference. For some reason I was expecting more but I was happy with what was shown and it just goes to show that Sony is really catering to the fans. And OT I just picked up my Hero edition of I2. Woot!

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LittleBigMidget
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:34:17 AM
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I'm lol'ing my ass off at the gulible people who held their breath for rumors like "Heavenly Sword 2" and "GOW4".

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:46:56 AM

Well, even if Sony only mentioned first party games at their presser, there wasn't time to mention every game in development. If those games are in development and far enough along to be shown, they'll get a write up I'm sure. But hey, I wasn't holding my breath either.

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gangan19
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:41:20 AM
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whts supposed to be 5 hrs long?

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:12:16 PM
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OK, I know that this is the Sony thread, but I was just looking at some E3 coverage from Nintendo.

All I can say is OMFG!! That 'controller' is freaking *huge*. I mean *huge*. It has a 6.2-inch screen and at least a 1-inch border all around. It looks very thick, and must be all of twice the size of a PSP. But other than the sheer size and weight, the controls are in the weirdest place possible. How are you supposed to weild the thing in action? Just don't drop it though folk...breakage could be unfortunate.

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Bloodysilence19
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:23:36 PM

well according to ign it is big but its quite light for how big it is and comfortable. im still confused to why Nintendo is calling it a console when to me it looks like a tablet add on for the wii pretty much.

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vicious54
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:58:50 PM

I would hope that is not the final product because the placement of the analog sticks looks uncomfortable. I wonder how much the controller/tablet would cost.

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JDC80
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:32:17 PM
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I'm reading the back and forth here between Ben, other posters and PCG let me get this right PCG is complaining about Nathan Drake's movement on a ship that's rocking in a storm? I guess some people want Nate to have Spider-Man like ability to stick to the ground regardless what's going in the environment?

Moving to Wii U I think the only people excited are those who live and die Nintendo. I mean if I already have a PS3 why would I want a Wii U? I can play Ninja Gaiden 3 on the PS3, I can play Dark Siders II on the PS3 but can I play something like "Uncharted 3" on the Wii U? No.

As for the Sony Conference I can understand it was all about the PS Vita so they had to do what they had to do.

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DjEezzy
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:18:46 PM
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I have to agree with both World and Highlander. The conference was a bit underwhelming for me as well because i thought they would announce more exclusives. There were also a couple of wow moments as well that really got me excited for whats to come. For instance, Dust514 looks phenomenal!!! Of course U3 and R3 looked great. I was also surprised that BioShock Infinite is going to be compatible with move. Pure awesome!!! Last but not least, as Highlander has been saying, the Vita is absolutely impressive all around. From the actual performance of the hardware to the outstanding lineup of games it's going to have. It's just so impressive. I'm also glad to see the GOW Origins 3d remakes. Those are going to be awesome. Ghosts of Sparta was a blast to play.

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godsdream
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:09:27 PM
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I liked Sony's press conference. For me, all was good, the move support for more and more games, the psvita was amazing, the playstation brand display was amazing (I think this was the bomb of the show, and I don't know how come almost nobody seems to notice it). And all with mega reasonable prices. It seems Sony is listening the fans more now, which is very good. It was a little short for exclusive games but still, those were amazing.

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tazdood1199
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 2:32:17 AM
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I liked it. UC3 looks amazing, PSV is a must have, especially at $249.99. R3 looks awesome. Could have been longer, but overall, I thought it was a good presentation. Yay, SONY!

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