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DUST 514: The "Persistent Shooter" Powered By Choice

If you missed it during Sony's press conference last night, you'll want to check out the trailer.

And if you desire more information on this unique project, you'll definitely want to head over to the PlayStation Blog and learn more about the concept of a "persistent shooter." ...don't take that literally.

It's that first paragraph of description that will convince you that this sci-fi MMO is nothing like Call of Duty or Killzone or any other FPS. In fact, it's really nothing like anything you've played before. Well, if you've never played EVE Online, that is:

"When playing your FPS title of choice, have you ever wished that there was something more to it beyond your rank, weapon unlocks, your kill/death ratio and leaderboard prominence? Those things are all great – but what if those matches you fought in actually meant something? What if your successes and failures against your opponents impacted the course of events in a vast setting, potentially changed a virtual world and the gameplay experience of thousands of other players? More than that, what if that impact was felt across two separate games – one on PS3 and one on PC/Mac – that share the same sci-fi universe?"

Those of you who love EVE Online will understand where these developers are coming from, and will be intrigued at this new way of experiencing the EVE universe. The "persistent" part involves the MMO aspect; the world of DUST 514 is always there even when your PlayStation 3 is off, so you're "taking part in something greater than your own individual experience of that world."

Furthermore, your actions will have an impact on your surroundings. And with "thousands of solar systems," one can only imagine how far the ripples caused by those actions will travel. It's a great read so check out the full article, future MMO fans.

Related Game(s): DUST 514

Tags: dust, dust 514, dust game, dust ps3

6/7/2011 9:59:41 AM John Shepard

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Comments (69 posts)

Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:24:47 AM
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Oh, my heart SCREAMS in joy!

Sci-fi CHECK
Persistent world CHECK
One big happy Beamy DOUBLE-CHECK

Dear PSGod, please, *puuuhhlease* let this one be a good one!



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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:41:35 AM

The combat element of it reminded me of Vanquish - sort of. but I agree with you completely. This is exactly the kind of game I have wanted for years and years. A sci-fi game with the strategic element of building an empire, taking planets and such, but also being on the ground in combat. All those hours sunk into some sci-fi based online strategy game building an empire. I always wanted to do more than move things around like some general moving pieces around in a 'sand-box'.

This looked awesome.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:02:40 PM

Indeed you are right sir, I forgot to add

Strategy CHECK
Character customization CHECK
Ingame economy CHECK
Coop CHECK

I could have wished it was more of a RPG rather than a shooter, also pvn content too and not all pvp, but beggars can't be choosers. And I *beg* for a decent persistent, strategic mmo these days, with or without the trailing "rpg".


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Zorigo
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 3:47:58 PM

I'm with beamboom, i hope this does well because it has daaamn loads of potential. Thats sick, the whole affecting the bigger universe thing from your actions, that'd be sick in gameplay.
Hope this one does do well.

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:31:42 AM
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So this is just for the PS3? No PC version?

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vicious54
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:10:17 AM

From the sound of it, it is only on PS3 but the universe is set within the developers' Eve universe.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:29:04 PM

I believe it's PC and PS3, If I remember correctly you can go cross-platform with PC gamers as well. Unless It was a different game that I'm thinking of at E3.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 6:24:29 PM

There is no PC version, but apparently Dust 514 and EVE online will run off the same servers.

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NazzyQ
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:38:11 AM
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Sorry, off-topic but I have to ask:any word on when your Infamous 2 review will be up, Ben? It doesn't come out here in the UK until friday, so I'd like to here your take on it!

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vicious54
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:14:57 AM

If you liked the first one, you have to get the second one. I managed to get the games yesterday and it is awesome. You are able to continue your good or evil stories, I thought that was very nice. Better visuals and smoother gameplay.

Sorry for being off topic.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:25:03 AM

Probably tonight.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:44:04 AM

Sorry Ben, I like reading your reviews, but I will be playing the game....

;)

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SvenMD
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:29:55 PM

Agreed Highlander!

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:48:27 AM
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Sounds like MAG. Yes, the PC/PS3 cross over is unique, but premise is similar to MAG.

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Looking Glass
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:06:31 AM

I just checked the PS Blog and it's been confirmed that it's PS3 exclusive. No PC version if that's what you mean. Unless of course you're referring to the fact that it takes place in the same virtual galaxy as EVE Online.

And yes, it is similar to MAG in a basic sense. In other words a shooter with a persistent online world. But the thing is from what I've been able to gather DUST 514 is going to be taking this concept to much greater heights than MAG.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:36:10 AM

Indeed. My only hope is that you are correct, and and it doesn't come with a monthly service fee.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:48:49 AM

The way they talk about the players of Dust 514 and EVE Online being distinct and separate forces reminded me of starship troopers where you have the grunts who go in and take out the bugs, and the fly-boys who fly the ships and so the orbital bombardments. That's a neat way to bridge two different games into the same universe. Making allies of EVE players so that you can call on their orbital strikes or other abilities to augment your own, similarly they can do the same. It makes each game specific to a branch of service - Dust 514 players are the space marines, and the EVE players are the Naval forces. Nice.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:54:32 AM

That sounds pretty cool actually. This could be my shooter of 2012.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:07:20 PM

Yes it sounds *awsome*, no less. Two individual games, on two different platforms even, slightly overlapping eachother... I mean, *thats* new, and just incredibly cool.


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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:09:24 PM

This is actually a MMO/persistent universe game I may play.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:20:01 PM

Well, I do not have any of you guys on my friends list (shame I know).

So, if you get on the PSN prior to me, send me a friend request. My name is the same as is here.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:20:56 PM

Wonder if it will be possible to create persistent squads/guilds/orgs (whatever they would call it) too, like in "real" mmorpgs?
If so it would be a honour to serve as a member of the PSXE-squad!


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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:23:54 PM

I was wondering that. It would make sense since that way a group of players can ally with an EVE player or alliance.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:28:32 PM

Now that is a Good Point indeed. It probably *will* be possible. Oh man this baby is climbing fast on my excite'o'meter.

Maxpontiac: Request sent!


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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 3:50:22 AM

@max (first post)

...and just like MAG, I was interested until I learned it was an FPS. Shame, really.

I just find everything about FPSs so limited by the conventions of the genre.

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vicious54
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:16:34 AM
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Looks very promising, I hope it includes those vehicles the trailer showed with those price tags.

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sirbob6
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 8:42:06 PM

The website says that there will be in there.

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gangan19
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:26:27 PM
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It's also free to play, I believe

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:33:16 PM

Yep, microtransactions for in-game equipment. You can buy most of it with in-game credits too, but of course real cash get's you things a bit quicker...

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:40:18 PM

Personally I would have preferred a monthly fee (I think it's more fair) but I believe this is the right decision, a more gentle way to introduce a new gamer crowd to the mmo concept. Also, it's how EVE is based already, so yeah.

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OxyFenix
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:46:31 PM

Free-to-play MMOs are popular now. I wouldn't be surprised if FF14 became free-to-play too.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:51:05 PM

... As long as it don't affect the quality of the game (I'm now primary thinking of the typical mmorpg style games)! They got to finance the continuous support and further development somehow, or we will just be handed a world that is dead on arrival, sort to speak.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:05:26 PM

Nice you can buy stuff with in game credits? Sweet, I'm not much on the monthly subscription thing but this is a good thing for me. :D

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:15:56 PM

Yeah, from what I read you can buy some with in-game credits. I think it will be like the facebook games where you can buy certain things in-game, but the best stuff takes real cash. I also anticipate that many of the things you can buy will have a certain number of uses before requiring a replacement - which will drive a continuing revenue stream as long as people play the game.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:35:40 PM

Now I'm thinking very traditional mmorpg here, but I would not be surprised if *all* items can be bought or obtained ingame - just some of them being very, very time consuming or hard to get.
And then the easy solution becomes very tempting... A moment later... Ka-ching! One more micro-sale. :)


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Clamedeus
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 5:23:03 PM

@Beamboom


I don't mind getting Items/weapons etc the hard way, but it also depends on what it is for me, and how badly I need it.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:40:34 PM

Me too, Clam! I love getting the hard-to-get stuff. The epic experiences in a mmorpg are usually related to achieving such goals. Especially the large quests.

But let's not forget now that Dust is *not* a mmorpg, "just" a shooter. Still, one can always hope. :)

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 3:56:09 AM

LOTRO made more money after it went free-to-play (at least initially), so I don't think that will necessarily hinder development.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:15:01 AM

That's good to hear, Fane! I wish all good things for mmorpgs, though I've never tried Lord of the rings.
And I'm not surprised, now that I think about it. Once you're into a mmorpg one tend to get very involved. Money don't matter as much then. :)

... I just have to remind myself, Dust is *not* a mmorpg.

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sirbob6
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 12:59:21 PM
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This game sounds so obscenely cool. I can now mess with all my PC gamer friends.

Here I come PC elitist!

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:04:05 PM
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IT would be cool if you took the same interests into dc universe online. By the way, Dust is not exclusive to the pc, mac, and ps3. It's also coming in the same or somewhat different form on the 360.

Don't believe me? Go on their website. It literally says it. How can the president, vice president, or head manager go right in front of a stage at e3 and says it's pc/mac and ps3 exclusive?

It looks like a cross between vanquish and halo, but without the aliens. I don't know if there aliens or not in this game. Glad it uses the move though.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:16:41 PM

Timed exclusive?

Also, I don't know how a 360 version would work. XBL is a closed network. Microsoft have never allowed any 360 game product to see out of XBL or interact with another network like this. that's one of the things that has been a problem for people in the past. You don't see Steam delivery on 360 do you? Microsoft has rules against developers bringing their third party services into the XBL environment.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:50:56 PM

Marcus, I still got dc universe on my list. It's just... It looks *so* much like "City of heroes", a game I've played almost too much, I grew really tired of it. Still, as soon as I find dc universe in the bargain bin I shall give it a months run, at least! The mmorpg's on this platform must be supported.

And Highlander, I think the point you make there is the very reason why this is an exclusive in the first place.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:00:34 AM

bargain bin purchase =/= support
free month only =/= support

Put your money where your mouth is.

:D

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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:59:49 AM

Hmm... *Busted*.

:D

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DjEezzy
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:09:47 PM
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This game sounds extremely cool. Never played an MMO before, but this is very appealing. I guess we'll see.

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:49:22 PM
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Judging by people's reactions to this years E3, I'd say this is the most underrated announcement of Sony's show.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:16:35 PM

I agree!

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:17:55 PM

Yup!

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SvenMD
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:41:42 PM

This is one of those things that people really don't understand yet. And as details come out, people will start to come around and finally get it!

I just hope I have enough time to play it!

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Sol
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 1:58:49 PM
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Dust looks promising, but I've never even heard of Eve Online. Can anybody enlighten me?

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:08:32 PM

It's many years since I tried it, but Eve is a gigantic, free mmo space game for the pc, pretty legendary in the mmorpg world.
And when I say gigantic I mean gigantic. We are talking about a game world that spans over multiple galaxies, all with plenty of planets.
Even though you create a character it's your ship that's really your "character", with it's expansions and custom options.
You can play the game more or less how you want, from a law abiding trader crossing the galaxies to buy/sell goods, to a pirate, smuggler, explorer or a combo of those. The game is quite complex, a bit hard to get the grasp of right away, and imo it require a certain fascination for space.

Their website is eveonline com, just download it and try it if you like. :)


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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:17:36 PM

You know, there could be significant advantages to playing both sides of this, EVE and Dust...

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:29:25 PM

Absolutely. You shall not rule out that I'm gonna be sitting there with both the ps3 controller and a laptop.
Oh this smells like chaos. Lovely!

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:31:02 PM

well the game isn't free, however you can buy subscription time with in game money if you earn enough of it

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:44:33 PM

You are right! My apologies.
It *used* to be free though, that I am 100% sure of.
Today a 14 day trial is available, at least.

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soupdawg
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:32:01 PM
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So will this be like Planetside? I am intrigued but confused about the gameplay.

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:41:07 PM
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?? Is the cost to have an mmo exclusive the pc/mac and ps3 that expensive? Does the budget make mgs4 or gt5 look like wii mario game. I mean that would give them a huge leg up over the 360 if it was true.

Back then when ff14 was suppose to be released on the pc and ps3, sony would have you think that they paid square to have it exclusive. No, microsoft doesn't want a ff14 mmo, when asked to make the game for them.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 2:56:37 PM

Originally FFXIV was a PS3 *console* exclusive, but it was always going to be on the PC. But SE decided they might want to go multi-platform, especially after it got expensive and FFXIII sold some 360 copies too. However, MS and their XBL rules kind of killed that.

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Pandacastro
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 4:22:22 PM
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Looks pretty cool.

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DjEezzy
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 4:47:17 PM
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From what i'm getting... Dust 514 is fighting on the ground in the FPS mode. EVE is fighting in your ship from above. I'm also getting that Dust 514 Players on the ground can kill EVE players in the sky and EVE players can kill Dust 514 players on the ground. What i like is that either Dust 514 or EVE players can "Change the course of history" in real time. The concept is absolutely amazing and from what the 514 website is saying, they're even looking to bringing Dust 514 to PSVITA. Could get pretty crazy...

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:25:57 PM
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Beamboom, dc universe is awesome. Story: superman and the justice league and lex and the legion of doom duke it out in a post apakoliptic world on earth. with most of the heroes and villians destroyed, lex kills superman.

Then brainiac comes in and take lex hostage. Lex and brainiac thought they had a deal. Brainiac can rule, control, or destroy any planet or galaxy, just give lex complete control of earth. Brainiac lied, cause both the heroes and villians hate him, and if they joined forces, they might win.

So, lex is captured. He manages to escape, he steals brainiac exobytes. Exobytes are tools brainiac uses to scan humans and superhumans or is used to steals heroes and villians powers. Lex goes back to the past and releases the exobytes on the earth giving normal humans super powers.

Lex appears in front of superman, batman, and wonder women in the watchtower in outer space saying that we need to join forces to stop brainiac. Story done.

Gameplay: you choose to be a hero or villain. Each hero and villain has 3 mentors each. There are similar quests, but each mentor causes you to go on different quests. Everyone journey begins on brainiacs ship, with you trying to escape.

In the very beginning of the game, you choose to be male or female, you pick your outfits and create your name. You have a choice of 10 different weapons to choose from. Brawling (with fists), staff, 2 handed weapons, 1 handed weapons, dual pistols, rifle, hand blasters, martial arts, bow and arrows, and dual weapons.

A choice of 6 powers: fire, ice (tank), mental, gadgetry, (controller), and sorcery, and nature (healer). And finally, a choice of movement: flight, super speed, and acrobats. All of this you get from the start when creating your character.

I don't know about WOWarcraft, i think with them, they allow you to have 1 character per 15 dollar fee. DC Universe let's you have up to or a little over 12 characters to create, hero or villain whenever or whichever you choose for 15 dollars a month.

Granted the graphics on the ps3 looks ok. I hear it looks gorgeous on the pc. The in game characters look like that of a very polished ps1 game. But considering that you have 100's to a 1000 something characters on 1 of the 6 servers. The background, characters, and gameplay is pretty good.

Those weapons, powers, and movements are all interchangeable, and all have leveling trees. This is a button masher mmorpg. It sells at the store and at the ps store for 60 dollars. I strongly recommend you get the collectors edition at amazon for 60 dollars. It's tax free depending on what state you live in.

You get the statue, the standard size dc universe online comic book, a prequel comic book, and an art book. The slight problem i have, is that the game itself, comes in a hard paper case, instead of the standard ps3 case. Going from 100 dollars to 60, is a pretty huge discount.

There is more to say, quite a bit more actually. But I'm running out of typing characters. The game requires 18 gigs of hard drive space. That's takes literally about 8 to 10 hours to download. That may seem like a lot. But DC Universe is massive. You probably say to yourself, "that's all, it's not 25 to 30 gigs of required hard drive space?"

When i say massive, you start off in either gotham or metropolis. Each has two islands a piece. There's a 4 player co-op, it's optional. you actually can go questing by yourself, but when you reach a certain level. i wouldn't recommend it.

Another thing that is optional is your appearance. Once you upgrade your weapons and armor. There's a style tab icon that literally lets you keep your weapons and armor's appearance and lock it. Once it's locked, your appearance is permanent. Once it's unlocked, you can change your weapon and armor to whatever you like. Once the select armor or weapon is equipped, only the appearance changes.

Like I said, There's quite a bit of stuff I'm Ieaving out. For example, joining and creating groups, alerts, bounties, legends, raids, duos. I know, I know, I'm rambling, but I sincerely hope you give this a try. PEACE.









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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 12:45:15 AM

Mmorpgs are a lot of fun indeed. More than fun; addictive! And it looks like you've discovered the joy of a mmorpg :)
I don't think people really understand the sheer massive *size* of those things unless they try playing it themselves.
What you say still remind me a lot of City Of Heroes (another mmorpg for PCs). Cool with all the character slots. Often it's just as fun creating the characters as to actually play with them. :D

I'm gonna play this one. As a matter of fact I'll add it to my wishlist on Amazon right away and keep an eye on the price. As soon as it drops enough for me to not have to pay taxes to import it, I'll get it.
Gonna be a blast. And I can tell you right away: I'm gonna be one hot, dual wield(if possible?) sword/dagger babe. Oh yes. Baddies be warned!


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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:06:20 AM

$50 now on the PSN Store.

BTW the cities looked amazing in the Beta.

Dual wield same size blades only.

Oh and I hope you like big breasts, because the smallest size you could choose was ginormous.


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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:04:42 AM

Ginormous, is that so? Alright, I'll show you where my friggin' money is indeed, you s.o.b. Watch THIS:

Putting inFamous2 on HOLD, redirecting Visa card towards the only mmorpg on the ps3 so far.

...

ABORT: It's not that low (yet) in the store here in Norway. Still full price.

No dual wielding hooters for me... Yet.



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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 8:25:50 PM

LMAO @ "s.o.b."

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___________
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:57:14 AM
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meh.
did not really enjoy what we saw at the show yesterday.
what can i say?
im sick of shooter this, and shooter that!
can we please go back to the good old PS1 and 2 days where we had heaps of horror, action and platformer games?
198 million shooters releasing this year, but how many action and platforming games?
i cant think of any action hack and slash games, and only platformer i can think of is uncharted 3.
1!
1 game in 2 genres compared to the flood of shooters coming out!
looks like i have to go back to steam if i want something besides a shooter!
:(

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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:01:54 AM

But in this *ocean* of shooters (true, I agree!) at least this one has some radical differences from the rest!

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___________
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:17:02 AM

yea, but at the end of the day a apples still a apple, no matter what type, or what you put on it.

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