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E3 2011: Sony Conference Reflections And Thoughts

Sony's E3 press conference has come and gone for another year, and it's time to offer our thoughts.

First of all, they actually didn't spend as much time addressing the PlayStation Network fiasco as I would've expected, and interestingly enough, I didn't notice much of an apology. We got a lot of thanks to consumers and partners from SCEA president Jack Tretton for sticking with Sony, but "I'm sorry" wasn't really part of the speech. I was surprised and a little miffed, to be honest. But recently, I've been thinking about it another way-

They've apologized like crazy. Kaz Hirai did so when the PSN came back. They did it in every post at the PlayStation Blog. And once again, we have to remember to place the blame in the correct location. That was the fault of criminals and nothing more. While we could argue all day about the susceptibility of the Network, past weeks have essentially proved that nothing is safe, as both Nintendo and Microsoft has experienced hacking issues. And really, it was a good idea for Sony to step past that and focus on the games.

And speaking of the games, those were definitely in abundance at the conference. Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception looks absolutely ridiculous and at this point, there isn't a single other game that is even remotely close to competing on that technical level (at least, not so far as I can see). I also liked the look of Resistance 3, Starhawk, and DUST 514, despite the fact that I will probably never play the latter. Oh, and you gotta love the return of Sly Cooper!

As for the PlayStation Vita, I've often talked about it in the past: no matter how slick it is, I remain on the fence simply because I'm really not a portable gamer. That being said, Uncharted: Golden Abyss looked incredible and the launch lineup of titles is impressive (love me some Wipeout). Obviously, the Vita was the highlight of the conference, which is both good and bad. Personally, I was looking for an unknown PS3 exclusive that would finish the conference with a bang.

I really thought Sony started strong and put on a good conference for the majority of the time, but they sort of went out with a whimper. It really was lacking that one total surprise to blow us all away. And where the hell was God of War IV? Or Final Fantasy Versus XIII, for that matter? I really expected to see GoWIV. It seems Quantic Dream isn't ready to present their next project just yet, but I also wanted to see more from the PSN titles...what about Journey? Kinda wanted that one.

All in all, I'd say the conference was well-paced and I always appreciate an emphasis on the games, which has always been Sony's strong point. The Vita also looks like a winner and Uncharted 3 is just going to dominate the world. Just lacking a little oomph at the end, you know? If I had to assign a grade, I'd say a solid B.

Tags: e3 2011, sony e3 conference, sony press conference

6/7/2011 9:21:02 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (89 posts)

firstc624
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:39:34 PM
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I kinda agree on these points. Where was Square Enix in everything or are they having a press release a different day at e3?

For me i honestly wasn't expecting gow4....would have been neat to see something...but their is always the show in september

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:18:54 PM

They have their own conference, but if Versus was staying exclusive they would have been there.

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Dridion
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:40:01 PM

@world Really? I had no idea. When is it or did it pass?

I'm kind of disappointed with this years show. It seemed very lackluster. Most, if not all, of the games at the show were already announced. Nothing really jumped out...NOTHING!

I really, really, REALLY wanted to see what Square had up there sleeves as well as Sony's "ton of unannounced exclusives."

Also what happened to Contra. OMG I almost died inside when I saw the teaser; then they go and show absolutely nothing. I do know that there's such a thing called TGS but come on! I guess I'll go back to playing HC for now.

Same thing with DmC. The new trailer looked MUCH better than the initial reveal but again, nothing earth shattering.

As for Nintendo's new machine; color me a skeptic. I'll just stick to the PSP2(hate the name vita), and my good ol' trusty PS3. In essence, it can do almost exactly what the Wii U can. Plus, unlike the tab controller, the PSP2 can go all over and not be hindered by it's home console. Plus the $250 entry price is OH SO GOOD!

I give this years show a C-. I've seen much worse but damn....what happened!

EDIT: Forgot to mention the monitor; if it does what it's meant to than nice job Sony. The price point for 3D has been a turn off for a lot. To see them making huge strides to break that barrier is refreshing. Pushing the envelope at an affordable price is something they stumbled on in the beginning ;)



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Looking Glass
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 8:38:39 AM

@WorldEndsWithMe

Actually, I think that the reason that Versus didn't make an appearance during Sony's conference was because it's still nowhere near completion in general. Keep in mind that it didn't make an appearance during Microsoft's conference either. And Microsoft would have certainly loved to have the chance to brag about stealing yet another exclusive away from Sony.

I'm starting to think that Versus is only being worked on by a relatively small team within Square-Enix as opposed to Square-Enix in general and that the company is diverting the lion's share of it's resources toward the development of Final Fantasy XIII 2, the revamping of Final Fantasy XIV, and other more mainstream projects. Of course this also makes the idea of a 360 version seem somewhat far-fetched. I believe that Versus will at the very least be a timed PS3 exclusive.

I mean if Yoichi Wada did, as rumored, agree not to interfere with the development of Versus then it does stand to reason that he wouldn't be interested in lifting a finger to help the project along. Even so I hope that we will be getting some kind of new information on Versus.

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gbhsiris
Thursday, June 09, 2011 @ 11:52:08 AM

@World
I think the bold "PS3" at the end of every Versus XII trailer kinda hints at the obvious exclusivity. I would assume, with all of the tremendous occurrences in the home country of Japan, we can expect to see all of Tetsuya Nomura's projects and Kojima's presence at the Tokyo Game Show as a show of support to the country and people that are most important to them.

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GuyverLT
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:44:48 PM
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I agree with the grade of a B. Microsoft pissed me off though, there was literally nothing that I wanted to play (exclusive wise).. Well I WAS looking forward to Fable @ least and then they had to go and make a damn FPS Kinect thingamobob, that there took the cake.

On a lighter note those Disney & sesame street games looks sweet *SIGH* >sarcasm<

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Lionheart377
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:45:36 PM
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It really sounded like an apology to me. You could tell Mr. Tretton legitimately felt bad about the whole issue, and even if he didn't use the phrase "I'm sorry" (I can't remember if he did), his demeanor, as well as his tone, delivered the message brilliantly.

The Vita stole the show for me. I've never been much of a portable gamer either, but the price point along with the multitude of features and slick titles sold it for me. It's a day one purchase for me, and I've never done that for a console.

And I couldn't agree with you more on the lack of a big moment. The ending was seemingly leading to something great, but sadly, there was nothing there. Oh well - there's no doubt in my mind that Sony won E3. Maybe by default, as I thought that Microsoft and Nintendo had very poor showings, but Sony won nonetheless.

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Claire C
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:32:25 PM

He didn't say 'I'm sorry,' but he said he'd "like to apologize, both personally, and on behalf of the company, for any anxiety caused." Or something like that.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:46:38 PM
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Sly 4 and that $500 3D package have me excited. So does PS Vita.

People have been poo-pooing all 3 companies' press conferences but probably because MS showed nothing exciting or unexpected and Nintendo raised more questions about Wii U than answers, though I think this next-gen console looks very intriguing.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:44:08 AM

Current-gen.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:34:48 AM

Yeah, I agree that the jury is out on how powerful Wii U is. Probably will be between the 360 and the PS3 in horsepower. We all know Nintendo isn't known for hardware.

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:21:26 PM

Not to mention it won't appear for another 12-18 months. By which time PS3 and 360 (with HDDs) will cost between $199 and $249, and will be doing everything that the new, expensive WiiU can do - including integration with a handheld peripheral device.

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thj_1980
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:47:31 PM
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SONY DOMINATED E3 THIS YEAR!!!!!

GAMES GAMES AND MORE GAMES and a little cheery good NGP pricing!!!!!

Thought my biggest let down was WHERE'S KEVIN BUTLER?

I was dying to hear another good gamer speech from him once more.

A few games they could of added into the mix as well, because I wanted to see some other PS3 titles as well.

Microsoft did okay nothing earth shattering.

Their whole thing was basically KINECT games after another. Ghost recon used kinect's features really well.

Their Highlights were:

Mindcraft

Youtube

Lot's of partner ship

Halo 4

uh can't think of anything else nothinc else extremely important.
and uncharted smooth no jagged lines or anything while gameplay!!!!!



SONY: everything was awesome!!!!

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Qwarktast1c
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:29:22 AM

I wouldn't say that Sony necessarily "DOMINATED" E3, since there weren't that many things announced at the show that we didn't already now about. But it is all about the games and Sony certainly had a lot of good ones to show off, which is why they take the cake again this year.

As for Microsoft and Nintendo, but both of their offerings were complete crap IMO

Halo 4. I know it has a huge following but it is seriously the only exclusive they have besides Gears and Alan Wake, and I don't really care for any of them. (I lol'd while typing this part since 4 is the same key as $, cause we all know M$ is milkin' it!)

And Wii U? That controller is an oversized Gameboy with a fancy screen and analog sticks. The thing is seriously more gargantuan than the original Xbox controller!

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mexgeo86
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:50:27 PM
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I'm definitely sold on Vita (day 1 purchase), and I was glad to see gameplay of upcoming titles. I also like the support they keep giving PS Move with upcoming titles.

However, I never really was 'wowed' or surprised by some unknown title or project. I at least expected some 'FFVSXIII' coverage or ANYTHING on 'Agent.' The absence of Kevin Butler was also a slight letdown. Finally, the ending drum performance with some DJ kinda turned me off.

Overall though I'm content with their presentation and look forward to Vita.

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thj_1980
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:10:35 PM

Agent is no longer in development anymore apparently.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:23:00 PM

yeah it is, it just isn't exclusive anymore.

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The Doom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:31:54 PM

@sha4dowknight05
Don't you mean "The Agency" was cancelled? "Agent", from R*, was confirmed to be still in development no more than a month ago and was still an exclusive.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 2:41:48 AM

Tretton was asked about exclusivity at E3 and he was like "We have to see where we are at with that" or something similar. Basically, he didn't say it would be so it probably won't be.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:29:26 AM

I read not too long back that Sony had secured the exclusive rights for Agent... Damn, we all got conflicting sources.

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rogers71
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 9:59:45 PM
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This was probably the least exciting E3 in recent memory. Noone dropped any bombs, like Ben said, and all in all, pretty much everything the companies showed off was already on the net. Just felt a little blah to me. Really excited for Uncharted 3 though.

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godsman
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:41:13 PM

I agree, only the NGP pricing were surprising. The games were awesome, but we all expected these games to be shown at E3.

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Agent_47
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:24:36 PM
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I was really looking for that unknow exclusive to close
the show...Agent...were have you gone? But other then
that I thought Sony put on a good showing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:26:58 PM
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I agree, crappy presentation. It really hinged on whether or not you are a portable gamer excited about Vita. Too many things were missing ya know? Last Year they just slaughtered the competition, this year it was like meh where's all these unknown exclusives?

I rated it a 7.7, and I don't think this particular rape victim needed to apologize for being victimized but I guess they had to address the elephant in the room and I got the sense that Tretton was sorry. I loved his remark about the press, that was dead on.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:31:34 PM
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Wasn't Square-Enix supposed to announce something huge? Or do they have yet to present anything?

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Alienange
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:38:19 PM
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Didn't really enjoy that Sony press conference myself. Flashing quick snippets of games and then focusing on a bunch of useless hardware didn't hold my interest long.

And we've got to stop talking about FFVsXIII as if it exists. It doesn't. It's nothing but a 5 year old pipe dream that's been tossed aside by a company that doesn't have a clue what it's doing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:45:42 PM

Some folks might like that vita, but that monitor is pretty useless.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 8:47:38 AM

I agree. That monitor is cool and all, but I highly doubt I would ever get it at the price and size.

I imagine I'll jump on the Vita train as soon as they release a title I MUST have. I didn't get my PSP until Crisis Core was released. (Worth every penny with that title, by the way)

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:18:36 PM

I play games at a desk in our family room to eb considerate to non-gamers. I'll be looking at the new monitor, it's bigger than the one I have, and has 3D. So I get 3D games without investing heavily in 3D. If I like 3D on the monitor and can convince the family, then there may be a big 3D TV appearing in the future. This monitor kind of acts like a taste test for 3D.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:56:00 PM

non-gamers deserve no consideration ;)

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dante_zero
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:51:33 PM
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i think of all three conferences Sony came out on top with a solid showing. Yeah it probabl could have had abit of ommmph and there wasent anything earth shattering and some nice surprises like the 3DTV. But Microsoft seem to be flogging old franshcise to death and shoeing awkward kinnect controls into everything. i also thought it was funny that the new UI for XBL looked awfully familiar to the one i see everyday when i turn on my ps3. swap the back grounds from white to balck and hey presto, instant PS3 XMB.
As for nintendo, i though Sony had done some terrible launches but wow and the more i hear about WiiU the more i'm sure that they dont actually know what it is. the tech specs and media format reports from different sources dont seem to be consistant as as for ripping of footage from other console that was abit cheap for them. I also still dont really get the concept of WiiU much like an ipad, They are kinda cool and quicky, they dont some unique things but do i really need one considering the lack of funionality. i would replace my laptop with an ipad thats for sure and i wouldn't get one to compliment my laptop and that for me is the big question with the WiiU. Is it enough to convince people to buy it when it's not really needed. As for the controller well i can play on my ps3 upload save to cloud and them take my save and resume gaming where every i go which i think is more innovative if i can do a simular thing with WiiU but only in the confine of my house.
Sony with that in mind, Yeah this E3 really goes to Sony because while not setting the earth on fire they were solid and steady where as the other two seem to be suffering from trying too hard that they've forgotten to really push things in the industry forward.

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Kevin5
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 10:51:36 PM
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E3 as a whole for me was the best E3 in years personally. The love for fighting fans was heaven.

Tekken Hybrid (the big one for me), SF X Tekken, SFIII HD, KOF XIII console announcement & SCV.

I was also impressed by the HD remakes to MGS & the SH collections. (SH3 in HD is the big one for me though).

Uncharted 3, Mass Effect 3,BioShock Infinite, Silent Hill Downpour, Dead Island, Halo 4 & Halo Anniversary, Gears 3, Ninja Gaiden 3 & that new Tomb Raider all look like must buys.

My only disappointment was the lack of VF5:FS announcement from SEGA & DmC, which looks like digital vomit in it's early stages. I mean wtf is up with the new look & starving, Dante!? I know it's early in development but i really am not liking the new DmC going by that teaser. It's wierd but if it was just a new IP then i'd reckon i'd probably be ok with it but the fact that it's part of the Devil May Cry family makes me feel bitter. I hope Ninja Theory prove me wrong on this & the game doesn't turn out to be aids on a disc.

Anyway, overall i was pretty damn impressed with E3 this year.

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Teddie9
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:17:08 PM
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Yeah I would have loved some last guardian or a shocker from square about an rpg that we may actually care about. Sigh TGS is a long way away.

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godsdream
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:21:09 PM
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I think this e3 was very well for Sony. I mean great to see more move support to normal games. Great PS3 games. The fact that we are now used to see new gadgets every minute (say smartphones, tablets, etc.) doesn't mean the PSVita wasn't a bomb, I mean, where is all the hype surrounding the psp2 now? I remember the days when a lot of people were exited about this idea, of a new psp.

The 3D TV for me was THE BOMB of the show, that bundle is insane! And to add those points check the price on both PSVita and TV. Almost everyone of us had complained about the price tags, and Sony listened this time, you have to give credit to them this time.

For me this Sony press conference was a A-. The final detail for the A+ would be obviously an exclusive new game, or an existing franchise going exclusive or something like that. Or perhaps a new megaultrahidden secret remake that everyone of us want, that starts with F and finishes with inalfantasyVII????

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The Doom
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:42:01 PM

It was a good show. People really need to stop complaining about it sucking just because there wasn't any news for x-game chat for PS3. I mean at least 3-4 new exclusives were announced, they unveiled a PlayStation TV monitor, we know the official name of the NGP and its affordable price-point, Playstation versions of some games will get exclusive content...and all of that and more STILL wasn't good enough for some people? Kids these days I tell ya...

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cLoudou
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:33:55 PM
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If there was an E3 for Sony to be less than stellar thus year would be it.

MS had a horrible E3.

Nintendo, despite revealing a new console, only seemed to care about showing off their new gimmick of a controller and came away a little bit better than MS but nothing I wanted.

Sony is the clear winner, showcasing games for everyone.

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Dridion
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 12:00:16 AM

Wow, now that you put it that way, I totally agree. Had Sony pulled this last year they would have been up a $h!t creek without a paddle.

Still complacency = DEATH! Hope they don't get too comfortable. Things can change at the drop of a coin.

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Dridion
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 2:27:18 PM

Wow I meant drop of a hat :P It was late.

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 @ 11:59:47 PM
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Please, please, explain this to me. Here I am anticipating the e3 of the big three console presentations. Just to see it last a freaking hour to an hour and a half!

If e3 is a huge gaming convention and the place is too crowded to give them just the 2 to 4 hrs they want. Hold the press conference in another stadium or bulding. Who the heck is giving them time limits on their presentation?

I get it, I get it, the three consoles wood be nowhere without their 3rd party developers. Just saying.

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Dridion
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 12:06:07 AM
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And how can I forget, another year without Kingdom Hearts 3. Where are these people heads at? >.>

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Qubex
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 12:55:31 AM
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What can I say but say that I strongly agree with Ben's synopsis here.

As some have stated above, it maybe more of a "personal" E3 this year, whereby some game packages will appear more to some than others.

Uncharted 3 was phenomenal. I am sure we can all agree on this.

PS Vita is exciting, but I too am not sold on the whole package yet. I am not going lie about this, but I am concerned it may lose features along the way should Sony find security loopholes or other technical issues that may arise at the start of its life cycle. I don't think it will, but the PS3 experience has burnt me a little, hence my apprehension.

The entry price point is tempting, but remember, once you have bought into Vita you will realise quickly how much it will cost you in games. The system will be paid for by the high price of the games I think. I also believe that the Android and Apple onslaught will be relentless... and mark my words, within 24 months we will see 4 core tablets and the like to rival the Vita. Competitors will not let its lead stand for long even though its current design is quite evolutionary.

At the moment I am on the side lines. I want to see how all these technologies pan out. The WiiU was very interesting, but we will see what Nintendo can really do with it. Looks like they have no choice but go for the hardcore gaming market to buff up sales... if they don't they could very well be sidelined and eventually die... scary thought but companies don't last for ever...

Not overly impressed either way on the presentations. To be honest guys, I am actually more excited now about pimping out my new laptop for the end of the year with a mean CPU and GPU combination, with loads of memory (apparently you can put up to 12 gigs in the newer models now - and they come with USB 3.0 too! )... that will hold my attention for multi-platform gaming until PS4.

I will be investing though in a couple of the top PS3 exclusive games that come out between now and then, such as Uncharted 3 and the like.

Also interested in titles like Trine 2 etc. There should be enough around to keep me engaged anyway...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:43:12 AM

Qubex,

The PS3 has never lost a feature related to PS3 gaming or BluRay playback. The dropping of PS2 support was a hardware cost issue, and the deprecation of OtherOS had zero impact on the machines primary purposes. I don't think you will see any significant feature changes in the Vita for the same reason, once a game uses it, it can't be removed. So no game related functionality will go away, especially if it's something done in software.

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Qubex
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:05:44 AM

Yes, that is what I am hoping for. Let us hope no more security issues either :)

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:55:34 AM

For the sake of the platform, let's hope Sony has figured out how to protect their games, even if the firmware is modified. For the sake of the users, let's hope that Sony has figured out how to catch and trace people attempting to access the system in unauthorized ways.

I still favor individualized encryption based on two factors for digital distribution, and systems that can detect attempts to hack them, or even modifications to firmware at runtime, resulting in a quick "phone home" and ban.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 2:04:02 AM
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Realistically, I'd say nobody dominated E3 this year. Pretty even on all fronts from all companies.

MS was heavily focused on Kinect, which is both a good and bad thing. I reckon they're saving their big bang for next year where they'll announce a new console, hence these last 2 years being rather quiet on the MS front.
I'll give MS a B-

Sony gave us a speech about the PSN hack, even if it was pretty brief. They showed off heaps of great exclusives and some cool Move games, but Move, 3D and PSVita seemed to be the biggest focus of the show. Dust 514 looks very promising for hardcore RPG and FPS lovers.
I'll give Sony a B.

Nintendo was incredibly short and to the point. Wii is out, DS is old news. 3DS and Wii U were the biggest focus. Nothing on console games, just 3DS titles coming, all ports or repeats of franchises with little that seemed fresh. Wii U was shown off, but we only got tech demos, no official games to show off what this bad boy can do, and most of these looked like Wii games, not Wii U games. This early news raised more questions than it answered, and their show seemed to end with a bit of a whimper too.
I'll give Nintendo a B+.

So yeah, pretty even on all fronts. All had their strengths and weaknesses, but Sony seemed to have the most content and games.

Few surprises and the earlier leaks of the PSVita name and Wii U controller seemed to take the edge off what could've been exciting news and incredible surprises. Shame the internet has to ruin everything for everyone.

I'm hoping next year's E3 will bring a little more excitement and surprise with it. The spectacle was there, but the content seemed lacking, moreso for Ninty and MS. Time for a new generation of consoles to reignite the buzzm and here's hoping they don't all focus on touchy, motion gimmicks to sacrifice the hardcore gamer.

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Qubex
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:07:12 AM

Can't deny that the PS3 exclusives are strong... it is keeping me engaged in the platform. I am still not sure about Vita... when I have it in my hands and playing I will get a better feel for it and whether it is worth the money.

We may have leakage about PS4 by E3 2012! This will be of great interest to me.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 10:14:11 AM

Sony came closest to dominating, but you're right no one dominated.

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:21:51 AM
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I liked Sony's press conference, it wasn't the best they did in this E3 compared to last years E3's, but it still was pretty good in my books. When I heard about Dust 514 I was glad we got a cross-platform game, and the concept of it seems really cool, I like how you can impact the war on a different planet and other possibilities it could end up doing.

And the price cut for the PS Vita I was surprised, I thought it might end up being a bit more up in price but it wasn't, and I loved the fact that they are making less expensive 3D TV's with PS Eye, Move (I believe that was in there?) And resistance, I can't remember what else was in it but that's damn awesome I believe for 150 it was? Memory is pretty fuzzy I was up all night.

If anyone knows the price just let me know I don't remember. :/

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:55:03 AM

TV w/ Resistance 3 = $500

Move Sharp Shooter w/ Resistance = $150

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:19:25 AM

Ah, thanks Fane! That's a pretty damn good price though in my opinion.

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Vivi_Gamer
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:39:58 AM
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I enjoyed the show, Uncharted 3 and Resistance 3 look like sensational games, i cant wait to get either. By the time the show ending... I was still wanting more. I actually throught it was an intermission.

I think the problem was that we knew everything that was going to be there, there was no suprise title. I was expecing XIII-2 for that show, but we got the trailer for that later so I a bit more satisfied.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:13:21 AM
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i didn't think it was that great a show. no surprisises. oh yeah, where's that high profile ff remake? playing games with people's hearts.

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___________
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:39:56 AM
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so if you leave your door open at night, its the persons fault for waltzing in and helping themselves?
as the saying goes, if you dont protect yourself NO ONE WILL!

i was really disappointed and shocked with there presser!
not only was there so few games announced, so few live demos, the structure was broken too.
they normally start with statistics and sales, then go onto live demos of announced games, then show off a few games, then get to the PSP, then PSN, then see ya later.
this year no sales talk, no PSN features talk, no upcoming features talk, no PSP talk, just heres the games we have announced, here are the games were bringing to the NGP, heres the NGPs name and price, see ya later!
what the?
what a disappointment!
i mean every single year we have at least one shock announcement!
thats what makes E3, thats what makes people remember it forever!
ill never forget the day gabe came out and announced portal 2 for the ps3, it was just so unexpected!
this year had no shocks like that!
most E3s go down in the history books and are remembered forever!
this years though will be forgotten by the end of the week!

one thing thats really shocked me about E3 this year in general, not only sony but everyone, is the lack of live demos.
most of the time at E3 companies show a trailer of the game, then the devs come out and show off a live demo.
this year we had so few of those!
most games had only trailers, why so few live demos?

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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:57:26 AM

E3 is more than just Sony/MS/Nintendo. Ubisoft had live demos on almost everything they *could* demo live! Even that Far Cry 3 demo was live, you see the guy playing it in a separate picture.
... And yes, I shall shamelessly plug Far Cry 3 at least 1000 more times before the end of this year - that was one helluva promising view we got there. Ubisoft might just become my new favorite action publisher now with both Assassins Creed and Far Cry 3.

... And did I mention Far Cry 3?


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Looking Glass
Thursday, June 09, 2011 @ 12:14:56 PM

@No-name

That metaphor is inappropriate for more reasons than one. But no matter what the case it's always the perpetrators fault first and foremost and not the victims no matter what the circumstances.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 5:54:10 AM
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My rating for the Sony presser:

As is: B+ (mainly due to $249)
As is plus Sony announces they're finally fixing the ****ing browser: A+
Sony announce nothing except that they're finally fixing the ****ing browser: a solid B.

p.s. If this double-posts, you know what to blame.

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Zorigo
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:35:41 AM

Woah, theyre fixing the browser how?

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 8:57:59 PM

They're not. I was saying that if they were it would have made the show for me.

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0_o
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:20:52 AM
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Surely last years E3 was better. This year Sony did show some cool stuff like the new PSP, 3D TV and of course Uncharted 3 but they could show more as they have more to show but I think time didn't help. However Microsoft showed everything they had to offer in just 2 hours! And they've use the word "Kinect" like million times!

Nintendo's press conference was a bit dull for me but I'm sure they are targeting the younger players with 3DS and the new controller (WII U) it isn't a new console! I want to know how it will really work and if I have to charge it every 5 min! :p

The one thing that I disliked about Sony was the name of the NGP like really Vita I think it's a cheese name! And I have 3 things I want to know about the new PS Vita:

1.Battery life.
2.Front and rear camera resolution.
3.More about the new media device.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:41:05 AM

Eh? The Wii U is assuredly a new HD console, not just a controller. It's just that the controller is 'oh-so-revolutionary' that Nintendo couldn't help but make it the core presentation. There was a console behind it... And it's not much more powerful than the PS3 apparently. What kind of a company announces a product, then shows no games running on it and not even announces the basic tech specs? I know that it could still be eighteen months away, but that's VERY dangerous behaviour from Nintendo

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 12:19:14 PM

Lawless, what is most odd is that They couldn't even show anything running on a dev system. That indicates that only the most rudimentary dev kits are available, otherwise why not put a dev system in a box and run an exclusive game on it? So they are really at the same kind of early stages Sony was at during E3 2005 when the 360 was announced. Sony announced the PS3, but had nothing but empty shells to show. The product was a year away from manufacture.

I think Nintendo is desperate to remain relevant, and so they jumped early with the WiiU announcement.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:23:17 PM

But it's also been said since that the dev kits have been floating around third party studios for over two years in order to get a good launch line-up from them. They're something strange going on... And I don't mean the Ghostbusters kind.

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:58:49 PM

With apologies to any and all that like Ghostbusters, my only defense is that I *had* to do it...

If there's something strange
in your press conference
Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!?

If there's something weird
and it don't look good
Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo

I ain't afraid of 360
I ain't afraid of PS3

If you're seeing things
on the video screen
Who can ya call?
Nintendo!

A WiiU game
running on 360
Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

I ain't afraid of Vita
I ain't afraid of Halo

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

If ya all alone
pick up the WiiU
and call
Nintedo!

I ain't afraid of PS3
I here it likes the games
I ain't afraid of 360
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

WiiU! WiiU! WiiU!

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

WiiU! WiiU! WiiU!

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:01:31 PM

Apparently, all of the third-party game footage were PS3 or 360 builds as well.

@ High

I can't hear you!


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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 10:09:12 PM

...I can't hear you...

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

WiiU WiiU WiiU
WiiU WiiU WiiU

Nintendo!

Who ya gonna call?
Nintendo!

Who can ya call?
Nintendo!

Who ya gonna call?
Um...well, OK, since you asked nicely, I'm calling Sony.

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Zorigo
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:34:55 AM
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Apart from uncharted, the reveal of a name for the PS Vita and a price (which btw for the UK im still bloody miffed about), and that cool 3d tv, nothing made it a standout show.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 6:42:00 AM

What does the Vita cost equate to in American dollars over there?

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:50:27 PM

A more relevant question is the price in Euro since the UK price is calculated off the Euro price. Of course everywhere in Europe you have quite high sales taxes. I believe that Zorigo did the math yesterday and arrived at something like 267GBP. In the US, it will cost $250 plus sales tax which will typically be between 85 and 10%. So the unit will cost about $270 including tax in the US.

But, US pricing is set by SCEA and UK pricing is set by SCEE...so a USD comparison isn't always going to be good.

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Palmetto
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 7:06:47 AM
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Did anyone catch that they are giving the Vita cross game chat but failed to mention it for the PS3. What the heck?

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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 7:47:33 AM
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No mention of Ruin yet? My biggest surprise.

Looked and sounded like a dream! Sold me the Vita ALONE.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:56:21 PM

what? that looked generic as hell

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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 4:23:31 PM

I guess people didn't listen to what actually can be done on it.

It's taking that Demons Souls concept (concept only) and magnifying it!

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Qubex
Thursday, June 09, 2011 @ 3:19:21 AM

More than you can imagine...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:23:53 AM
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I'm with Ben on this, it was a solid conference for playstation. Vita dominated and with the launch price it's a win!

But lack of a brand new ps3 exclusive didn't go well with me.

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 10:18:53 AM

Perhaps they are saving things for the TGS or GDC later this year? Then again, perhaps they are being strategic? After all, they want people to pay attention to Vita this holiday season.

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McLovin519
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 9:53:43 AM
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I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about Twisted Metal.
Is that not being released this year also?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 10:15:21 AM

Already has a release date. October 4.

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McLovin519
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 11:27:53 AM

I thought they should have shown some game play footage. It is a Playstation exclusive.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:56:45 PM

G4 showed some, looked neat.

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 10:18:22 AM
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Looking at the three main presnetations, I think Sony came closest to dominating the show, but in the end, no one dominated.

I think Microsoft was lots of light and smoke and very little substance.

Sony had substance, but not enough for hardcore gamers looking for specific franchises. I think the Vita launch was very powerful in terms of the handheld market.

Nintendo started out well, focusing on games, and then out of left field comes WiiU - which, by the way, looks like the top half of a vertical Xbox 360 (old kind, not the squat). Nintendo gave us next to no detail about the system, and there was not enough real in-game footage from the WiiU itself. But, the step-too-far was taken by Nintendo with the WiiU controller. That huge tablet shaped thing masquerading as a controller.

So, overall, no one dominated. Specifically for handheld gaming, I would say that PS Vita absolutely dominated. I say 'dominated' because the Vita really hit the targets like no one else - there were the the sweet game demos, crisp OLED screen, mature hardware and games running on what appear to be retail units. Not to mention the massive publisher commitment (stronger than WiiU I believe) and an extremely reasonable price that made the 3DS turn around three times before realizing it was sitting in it's own puddle.

I'd pitch the relative grades for Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft as B+ for Sony, solid B from Nintendo, and a C- for Microsoft.

Microsoft really could try harder. Gears of War and Halo was about it for 'hardcore' gamers from them, but unless I misread things, Halo4 is slated for a 2012 release (holiday 2012 according to some publications)!? If they'd brought more, or not announced a game 12-18 months ahead of it's release, I'd give them a straight C.

But their presentation was more about Kinect than gaming, and more about Kinect games than 'real' games. I just find it significant that of the three major exclusive franchises mentioned during their presser, one of them isn't due a major release possibly until after the next E3.

Sony's presentation reminded me of last year in that they kept coming with games, but there were so many other games that people wanted to hear about. With a major hardware launch in the Vita, Sony had to put a lot of eggs in that basket, and so many core gamers were disappointed that their favored games were not presented.

Nintendo missed the boat in so many ways, but in contrast to Microsoft they talked about games and having fun, not controlling your TV, Bing searches or lightsabers using voice recognition. Although I don't think they outdid Sony, they did bring the WiiU. That would be bigger if it were not simply them catching up with Microsoft and Sony. The touchpad controller would perhaps be innovative were it not for the PSP and remote play, or the Vita and it's entire feature-set.

Sony had an opportunity to blow us away with PS3 exclusive news and seems to have chosen not to. If they'd thrown an additional 30 minutes into their presentation and spent it talking about another half dozen PS3 exclusives (which they have), I think Sony would have dominated E3. It's almost a show of modesty for them to hold back as they did.

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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 3:07:31 PM

I think Sony is most likely saving some of their unannounced exclusives for TGS or another conference later this year or early next year. Thats the way they seem to operate- so that they don't spread themselves thin throughout the year (like MS apparently has). For instance, this years major releases (inFAMOUS 2, Uncharted 3, Resisitance 3) all were announced at different times throughout the past 2 calendar years, none of which at Sony's actual conference.

That along with the fact that Sony clearly wanted to use their press conference as a way to promote the Vita; and show off its games, features, and price. Seems like they're targeting all the tech-heads, and current PS3 owners first.

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DjEezzy
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:27:36 PM
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I'd say it was a B as well. They had plenty of great things to show, but i was expecting to see more of Twisted Metal, Last Guardian, Journey, GOWIV etc... I thought the TV was very cool but I already have a 50" 3D Plasma. Don't need that. Vita just looks plain awesome as well and I'm very interested in that. I really liked Dust 514 as well. Looks pretty sweet. U3 was amazing... Nuff said.

Now with all that being said. I actually thought Nintendo's presentation was pretty good!!! Wii U looks really cool. If they can really produce some great titles for it First and Third Party, it would be fantastic. I hope the best for Nintendo.

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 1:44:35 PM

Twisted metal is at the Show, but wasn't in Sony's presentation. I believe Journey is there also, don't know about Last Guardian.

Nintendo didn't show WiiU at all. They showed an empty casing and a tech demonstrator controller running two tech demos (not games). The supposed game footage for WiiU was actually PS3 and 360 footage. They won't have a WiiU for 12-18 months to sell to anyone, the device hasn't even entered production yet. The lack of working code on a Dev kit for demonstration suggests that they don't even have a specific dev kit version yet either.

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Danny007
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 2:49:42 PM
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After watching E3 so far, I'd have to say that it was a big disappointment. There were only a few good announcements for each press conference and it seems like games were lacking. After it was predicted that this would be one of the best E3's ever, I can now strongly disagree.

The best things I saw were Uncharted 3, Farcry 3, Uncharted Golden Abyss, NGP, Silent Hill, and AC: Revelations.

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FlyingKickPunch
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 3:49:46 PM
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Uncharted 3 ruled the school.

However, that Zelda demo in HD...eyegasms! And the controller looks freaking awesome.
Shut up and take my money, Nintendo!

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Crabba
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 7:00:06 PM
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I agree, I've watched all three press conferences now and there just wasn't any exciting news, but out of the three the Sony conference was still by far the best one.

I already knew Uncharted 3 is going to be great, but even though I've tried to stay away from watching any videos from U3 to avoid spoilers I couldn't not look at that awesome gameplay shown at E3, that is some SERIOUSLY awesome water effects! Everything just looks so polished and detailed already, it's just amazing how they do it!!

Resistance 3 impressed as well, and looked a lot better than the previous videos I've seen of it, definitely bumping up my interest in it!

Couldn't care less about portable gaming so Vita didn't hold my interest, but Ruins looked pretty cool, so I was happy when they said that Ruins was coming to PS3 as well, I just hope it's a good single-player game!

Basically the only real new game announcement was the new Sly game, which I've never played but the trailer looked really cool so I'm definitely putting that on my list of games to look out for, but other than that they should have been able to show some more upcoming games! What about GOW4? The new game from Quantic Dream, and why didn't they show anything at all from The Last Guardian or Twisted Metal??

All in all though a good show by Sony which was actually fun to watch, unlike Microsoft & Nintendo's conferences where I was just kept wishing for the damn thing to be over, MS with their constant blabbering of new Kinect kiddie titles and Nintendo was not much better and although they announced the new Wii U they basically had nothing to show for it and hardly said anything about what it can do. I don't see how anyone could be excited about any of the games they showed...

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Danny007
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 7:11:59 PM

Totally true Cabbra

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Lairfan
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 @ 7:13:20 PM
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It seemed like this E3 was more about individual games than overall conferences. Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, AC: Revelations, Far Cry 3, and a couple others were the main standouts. The only other thing that was worthy of much note was the huge amount of time Sony showed off the Vita, which looks awesome as hell.

But as far as overall press conferences, there was a lot to be desired this year. M$'s was just a huge push for Kinect and a (crappily directed) teaser for Halo 4, Nintendo's was WTF with the WiiU, and Sony just didn't bring the bombshell exclusives. So this is definitely one of the least exciting E3's in quite a while, even with games like UC3 being shown off.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, June 09, 2011 @ 10:23:55 AM
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I agree with what Ben had to say. There wasn't any bomb shells per se, so without those Sony's conference deserves a B in my book as well.

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