Ninja Theory Won't Forget What Makes Devil May Cry Great

Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:55:25 AM
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well, i don't like the new character design. looks like they changed his hairstyle again. enslaved had all kinds of screen tearing, and texture pop in so i'm not really that impressed with ninja theory's coding abilities either. this game will be using the u3 engine. an engine that does not favor the ps3 so i remain on the fence about this game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:41:29 PM

I echo your thoughts, lets just hope they pull a Rocksteady somehow cuz Batman used that poop engine too.

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Kiryu
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 10:15:23 AM
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What i love about the DMC universe are the characters.DMC 3 was and will be my last DMC.
Dante and Vergil fights were Epic.
Hope they make a HD collection for PS3.

Last edited by Kiryu on 6/14/2011 10:15:42 AM

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Shams
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:47:39 PM

On DMD difficulty, the final duel was the best boss fight evah. Most insane anyways. Vergil groaning "Dante" on the final hit still gives me goose bumps.

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sobleck
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 2:14:45 AM

I completely agree. Deveil may Cry3 blew me away, and the gameplay and atmosphere was crazy! i was sorta annoyed that it was all in the sam tower but it ended up being alright. I did like the polish of 4 but i didn't like 4 very much.

I do feel that DMC is usually very polished no matter what generation its been in. I, however, can see a distinct lack of polish in the e3 trailer, and the character design sorta makes me feel like i'm playing through someones depressing nightmare.

I think i'll just have to sit and wait and see for this one. Definitely not a first day buy for me. I love Heavenly Sword, but even that had technical hiccups. I just want to play a DMC game that worth playing over and over again. I can pick up DMC 3 anytime and be completely enthralled.

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sobleck
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 2:14:47 AM

I completely agree. Deveil may Cry3 blew me away, and the gameplay and atmosphere was crazy! i was sorta annoyed that it was all in the sam tower but it ended up being alright. I did like the polish of 4 but i didn't like 4 very much.

I do feel that DMC is usually very polished no matter what generation its been in. I, however, can see a distinct lack of polish in the e3 trailer, and the character design sorta makes me feel like i'm playing through someones depressing nightmare.

I think i'll just have to sit and wait and see for this one. Definitely not a first day buy for me. I love Heavenly Sword, but even that had technical hiccups. I just want to play a DMC game that worth playing over and over again. I can pick up DMC 3 anytime and be completely enthralled.

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GuyverLT
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 9:13:34 AM

"I, however, can see a distinct lack of polish in the e3 trailer, and the character design sorta makes me feel like i'm playing through someones depressing nightmare."

Yeah! That's probably why it is says "WORK IN PROGRESS" in the beginning It pains me that people keep treating this trailer like a final product. With no release date were still a long ways off from the final product being close to playable.

Last edited by GuyverLT on 6/15/2011 9:14:14 AM

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sunspider13
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 10:51:47 AM
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I'm still on the fence about this, leery is the right word to use here. I just have problems with the word 'reboot' being used. If this is a younger Dante from any of the games before, why call it a 'reboot'? From the footage here it does seem that the young heroin Dante is using Ebony and Ivory. It does give me hope knowing that the director has worked on the previous DMCs. I'm still mad at the fact that Capcom didn't develop this inhouse. I'll give it a shot but I'm not holding my breath.

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ColTater
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 11:24:35 AM
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I know it is too late, but I wish they would have used the much better looking Framework MT in house engine instead of the aging U3 one. How far from grace Crapcom has fallen for me. Give me a proper next gen Megaman and Onimusha, and quit making crap like Dark Void.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 12:06:07 PM

I know right, wtf was up with that Dark Void game? And I'm glad that other game Lost Planet 2 tanked, crap game. Hope to see a next gen Megaman or next gen Ghosts N Ghouls or something.

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slugga_status
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:05:36 PM

Dark Void wasn't that bad..but yes give me a nextgen Onimusha...You'd think we'd have another one by now..smh

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ColTater
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 2:51:21 PM

Dark Void had promise, just fell short on the execution part.

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Sogi_Otsa
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 6:19:53 PM

yeah, what happened with G&G's HD psn game? i've been waiting ages.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 12:09:39 PM
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This game won't sell. They need to understand that DMC is about Dante, the Dante which CREATED the series. Unless his story is concluded (which it isn't) we will never accept a new character replacing him.

Poor Ninja Theory accepting this project. And here goes Capcom ****** another one of their franchises. Let's count how many they've already *****d:

-Resident Evil
-Street Fighter (SFIV revived it but it was dead for years because of the SFIII reboot)
-Megaman
-MVC3 (sucks, you know, I know it, even the "hardcore" players know it)
-Dead Rising 2

Wonder what's next?

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GuyverLT
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 12:25:03 AM

"They need to understand that DMC is about Dante, the Dante which CREATED the series."

I suppose that would be the reason for them working with the guys who actually worked on the previous DMC titles.

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GuyverLT
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 12:25:04 AM

"They need to understand that DMC is about Dante, the Dante which CREATED the series."

I suppose that would be the reason for them working with the guys who actually worked on the previous DMC titles.

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Wissam
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 12:21:33 PM
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This is is finished once a western developer touched it. not like that I hate western developers or anything like this. some of them make great game. and there is no denying to that.
but they need to get their hand off the Japanese
games series. and we all know Capcom is to be blamed for this. this game needs a better treatment for the love of god. its the one that created the extreme combat genre. and the father
of all action games back in the PS2 times.

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slugga_status
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:15:27 PM
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I'm still not buying what they're trying to sell me. This reboot just seems off...I don't understand why Capcom wants to "westernize" their games. We don't want that crap and we don't need you to "westernize" games. We liked them how they were...

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Sogi_Otsa
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 6:12:38 PM

lol westernization is killing gaming.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:16:10 PM
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Ah quit your complaining, I see no need for it. The gameplay in the trailer (aside from that grappling hook) doesn't look all that different from previous entries in the series and Dante flaring up to the 'right' colours looks just sick. We really don't know anything about the story at this point, other than that NT knows how to tell a better one than most developers.

Everyone's doomsaying about this one based on information that is sketchy at best. Yeah, franchises often fall when handed off to a new dev, but that isn't always the case. Bioshock 2 was a decent enough game in its own right. Sony's PSP iterations of their PS3 franchises are, in most cases, exceptional, and we're all looking forward to Sly 4, yeah?

Besides, the listing of this one as a reboot is still up in the air, as NT and Capcom have said that it'll lead into DMC3. That would make it something of a prequel. Oh, ye of little faith, how about we wait until hands-on impressions from the DMC loving press begin to leak out before passing judgement... Actually, I hope that they go back to the difficulty of DMC3, DMC4 on hard was too easy for what I was expecting.
Peace.

P.S. Capcom cannot be stupid enough to want to do an RE collection and not a DMC one. Come on.

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sawao_yamanaka
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:39:41 PM

That's exactly it Lawless if they are going to reboot the franchise they might as well change the fighting mechanics as well. If everything remains the same then there was no purpose in changing up the character. Also as far as I heard this is a complete reboot and it doesn't connect with the other games in the series. Dante has always had white hair even as a child it was shown in the original Devil May Cry.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:42:53 PM

You tell em Lawless.

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Sogi_Otsa
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 6:17:16 PM

Dante is Dante. this new charecter is not. he harnesses no flair, and the color shift is not 'sick' it's 'sickening', Ninja theory looked at people saying stuff, said: oh the colors durrr... that's what makes a Dante. no more devil trigger, let's just do this. the trailer was annoying in music and sound. this is a bargain bin game. I'll get it when it's under $20, much under, and that's because i do like ninja theory and devil may cry, but this is crap.

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Oyashiro
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 8:03:00 PM

This Dante doesn't look like he is into rock... more like 80's British Punk.

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GuyverLT
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:27:46 PM

I'm guessing no one here reads comics.

I'm just using this as an example, but you know how in the comics you have all these different iterations of Iconic characters like The Amazing Spider-Man, The Spectacular Spider-Man or the The Ultimate Spider-Man, X-Men, Ultimate X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, The Avengers, The Ultimates, hell in the regular Marvel universe Nick Fury (The guy from S.H.I.E.L.D. with the eye patch) is/was a white guy, but in the Ultimate universe he's Samuel L. Jackson... Yeah they are all basically reboots and different iteration of one another and they share the same story-line but each tells it in a slightly different way.

That basically what's happening here it's thing same thing only it's video game character instead of a comic character. In one universe you have the old Dante, in the new one you have the new Dante.

Those of you who read comics might get where I'm coming from with this.

Also they have changed his Face and Hairstyle again, probably because he looked exactly like that Tameem guy or whatever his name is. I take as a good thing as I do not know why he did that in 1st place.

Also I like the fact that Capcom has a guy on the inside who has worked on all the previous titles.

P.S. I can't wait for this game.

Last edited by GuyverLT on 6/14/2011 9:36:20 PM

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 1:53:10 AM

Sawao,
As you'll read below, perhaps the white hair is some kind of early DT. Maybe that explains to some effect why he was shown to have it as a child? Also, I see this as a great opportunity to expand the game mechanics, by keeping older styled DMC in what I will from here-on-out refer to as the "Flare" segments, while shewing in new battle mechanics and methods with the new style.

Sogi,
Really? We have little more than baseline information on the game, and as far as I'm aware, only two trailers. The CG one that was shown at TGS last year, featuring Dante in the asylum. What we saw of him outside the asylum was most assuredly stylish. He may not have had the old swagger, but the new style is still very decent. The only real change is that he smokes here.

The E3 trailer is gameplay, and I saw a lot of slicing and dicing not unlike what he used to get up to. To say that he lacks flair is kind of silly when you've got a clip that barely runs for two minutes. The colour change is likely going to act as the new devil trigger, being implied that it will be a precursor to the activation that is seen in DMC3. Mind you, this is a prequel, so it wouldn't make sense for him to have access to the devil trigger, and perhaps the switch will allow him access to the abilities that we are familiar with from previous iterations.

Honestly, your argument is seriously flawed, based on almost no information, so as I said, let us wait until more concrete information is released and we get a few people familiar with the history of the series impressions.

Oyashiro,
Hey, I got nothin' against some Sex Pistols in my DmC. It'll be a step up from that abortion of a soundtrack of DMC4.

Guyver,
That is an excellent comparison, and one of the most fitting that comes to my mind.
Peace.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:44:34 PM
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I'm all in. I wasn't thrilled with all the tech errors in Enslaved but it was still good and maybe NT learned something. I like the feel of this one and no matter how you slice it that footage is sexy.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 6/14/2011 1:46:53 PM

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GuyverLT
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:38:16 PM

Yeah I don't what it is, but I'm diggin it. I like how they use bright colors yet it still has a somewhat dark feel to it.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 1:55:27 AM

Eh, Enslaved was their first effort with the engine, I'm sure they're more experienced with it now and better able to produce the desired effects without the issues. And the bright style, I feel, is an excellent contrast against the feel, as Guyver said.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:46:18 PM
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I played through the first two DMC's. DMC3 came during bad timing on my part and DMC4 just couldn't hold my interests as it sits largely unplayed on my shelf.

I've developed such an acute preference for NG's style of play mechanics that DMC just doesn't compel me like it once did.

I also have a hard time placing faith in Ninja Theory. They've proven their ability at storytelling with both HS and Enslaved but came up short of my standards in the game play department.

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Shams
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:57:29 PM

DMC3(se) was sick. Vergil is still my favorite playable character ever. I was a DMC fan that switched preferences to NG, so I get where you're coming from, but I still consider DMC3 the most stylish beat'um-up of the series and the genre to this day. I highly recommend a playthrough.

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DjEezzy
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 1:52:18 PM
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I agree with lawless... I am actually quite impressed by this e3 trailer. It was really cool when his hair change to white and almost everything went black and white around him. Anyways, this game has been beat to death because of the so called reboot. I just don't get how you can't be excited for a new DMC!!! It's weird because most of you assume its going to be crap until proven otherwise. I tend to think the exact opposite but oh well, what can you do? Cheer up guys!!! LOL

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Sol
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 2:00:37 PM
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It'd be funny if Dante called himself Tony Redgrave in this one. Seriously though, the only person I would expect to see would be Vergil, because he's the character the fans want to see the most again. The gameplay in the trailer looks promising save the shifting environments which is new so I'm a little "meh" on that one. In any case as a true gamer, I've long since accepted this new and young Dante. I just want the game so I can carve into hordes of demons, or the darkswordsman in my PSN ID is just for show...

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Oyashiro
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 4:42:37 PM
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I absolutely hate this 80's, euro-trash, drug addict bastardization of Dante.

And for the record... Devil May Cry did not need a reboot.

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Sogi_Otsa
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 5:57:43 PM

if you were a woman i would want to marry you lol.

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Oyashiro
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 7:55:17 PM

Not with out dinner first. ;)

Last edited by Oyashiro on 6/14/2011 7:56:11 PM

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Sogi_Otsa
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 8:37:39 PM

why of course, and I'd be happy to pay lol.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 4:58:20 PM
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I'm not interested in a Reboot. :/

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Sogi_Otsa
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 6:09:11 PM
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Ninja Theory ruined it still. you do realize that no one cares what they have to say anymore right? with the possible timeline in this Dante would be 12-16 at the most.and really, unreal engine? and those S&!ty looking textures! Damn, if it doesn't look like DMC it doesn't have the same atmosphere, and the sound, the music in the trailer was crap too. you know how Dante is a rocker right? and is it just me or did the logo rip off Detroit Metal City? why reboot it? that's saying the great games that came out in the '00s never happened. the reason why we liked it are dieing. Ninja Theory respects the DMC brand and wants to innovate the series? Innovate by using a overused engine and decreasing the graphic quality instead of building DMC4's own engine up? i was looking forward to seeing DMC5 with Dante and Nero, along with Trish and Lady, all playable with their own style and game play. but no, let's go to DMC2, Lucia is gonna be in this, and that crappy boss huh? no surprise, just disappointment.

Last edited by Sogi_Otsa on 6/14/2011 6:10:21 PM

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Ninja_WafflesXD
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 7:45:19 PM
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Hmmm...I don't quite know what to make of this. Still not pleased with Dante's new makeover (did they change his hairstyle again??) but this trailer did look pretty nice.

I won;t hold out too much hope but I suppose I can keep a more open-mind about the reboot.

P.S. My heart skipped a beat or two when "Dante's" hair changed to white...interesting stuff

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Kevin5
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:54:09 PM
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Dante's new look still looks horrible. He looks like a complete deadshit. I really hope they atleast change the bonce.

I love DMC to death, i even enjoyed DMC2 so i am pretty worried but also excited about where they're going to take this reboot. I don't have much faith but i'm willing to give it a chance.

Lucia may even return, i mean the lads at Ninja Theory love their red heads.

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Shams
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 9:59:32 PM

Lol, "deadshit"! That's one for the books!

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 1:58:42 AM

Shams, you clearly ain't Aussie! That's about as common as our words get.

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The Doom
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 11:41:44 PM
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The monster designs look really bad. They don't fit in with DMC's universe at all, especially that last one.

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___________
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 8:47:59 AM
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always stood by NT there a fantastic developer, but they have destroyed my favorite franchise!
as if crapcom destroying resident evil was not bad enough!
DMC4 was ok, not great, but ok, but definitely NOT a DMC game!
i wish they would just do a HD collection and leave it at that!
DMC3 was by far the best in the series, and still one of my favorite ps2 games ever!

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KNG201
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 2:21:32 PM
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I myself like reboots of things. I mean if the first devil may cry came out the way the reboot is nobody would be on the fence. I like a different perspective of books movies songs COMICS anime you name it.
take the transformer movies for example...I grew up on transformers so when the movie came out I was amped but when I found out they changed the story and added some characters I was turned off. I gave it a chance and I saw a very good movie that made me a little less critical.
I like the new dante,lara croft, hell I like the new cole (not a reboot i know. how many times can dante look the same and never change. this reboot gives a look at a younger dante not a different dante. im sure the core of him is still there. for the record this is just my opinion.

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Croik
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 4:25:43 PM
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How can they say they respect the brand when they've already said that Dante is a loser who would be laughed out of any club and needs a new image? Way to miss the entire point of the character and the franchise. DMC2 happened because of a fundamental difference in what two people thought "cool" meant. NT's about to make the same mistake.

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GuyverLT
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 6:23:07 PM

They were relating it to the REAL WORLD in which case they would be correct in saying he would be laughed out of a club. I mean people talk about bad the New Dante looks, but you would actually be more likely to run into someone who actually looks like the new Dante before you would the Old one, but really how often do you see a grown ass man walking the streets with white/silver hair.... Yeah they would look even more ridiculous then the people into that Gothic "emo" look.

For the record they would both look ridiculous as real life people.

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KNG201
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 4:59:21 PM
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every time I get a hair cut I look different but Im still me. I can care less about the look of these characters as long as they dont lose thier character. or ware pink...lol now voice can get a bit tricky. for example cole mcgrath in infamous part 1. his voice was too deep and scruffy for a young bike messenger the only people that sound like that are wwe superstars and them guys from supernatural.lol. infamous 2's voice for cole was much better then part 1.
IMO

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