Hey CoD Fans, Your Dominant Reign Won't Last Forever
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2If there's one thing we've learned this generation, it's that the video game industry continues to grow, flex, and alter at blinding speed. What was commonly accepted even a few years ago is now extremely rare, and the mainstream blockbuster has now become a standard trend, as it is in Hollywood.
For the time being, with 20+ million copies sold with every new installment (or so it seems to be), the Call of Duty franchise reigns supreme. The fans are happy. They get another installment every year; it's not a drastically different entry and that's exactly what they want. Now, there was a time when Final Fantasy fans felt something very similar when a new FF was on the horizon: that new title wasn't an annual event, of course, but it was guaranteed quality of a certain kind. It would have sky-high production values, a great story, and a style of RPG combat that we knew we would love.
And then Final Fantasy XIII happened, and there's no going back. There's nothing wrong with FFXIII - I've said that before - but it's definitely a very different experience. In truth, with the advancing industry, what franchise has remained exactly as it was, even only 5 years ago? Now, while the mainstream is easily satisfied and Activision is more likely to stick with a winning formula, there will come a day when the accepted CoD formula will have to change. Would you like to know how it's going to happen, faithful CoD followers? I can explain it in vivid detail:
There will come a time when the developer - be it Infinity Ward or Treyarch or whoever - says something like, "we want to redefine the series." Or perhaps they'll use the word "evolve" or "reboot." And then they'll give us a little peek, and something will be very, very different... And then the fans will freak out and everyone will run back to Modern Warfare 3 'cuz the next CoD "just isn't gonna be CoD." How many times have fans said that about their favorite franchise? You don't honestly believe CoD is completely immune, do you? Granted, it'll continue on with the same formula for a while, but oh...how quickly things change.
And when that "new" CoD is suddenly sci-fi-based, or stealth becomes a factor, or half the game is dominated by vehicles, or it starts stealing from "Star Wars" (oh, who knows what might happen?), the Final Fantasy fans will get their chance to laugh. We'll all ask- "How's it feel? Welcome to the club. ...we've been waiting for you."
Tags: cod, call of duty, activision, final fantasy
6/20/2011 9:11:30 PM Ben Dutka
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Comments (151 posts)
Highlander
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:16:48 AM
15 up, 6 down
Nas Is Like
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:51:54 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:07:05 AM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:36:17 AM
Last edited by Beamboom on 6/21/2011 11:37:47 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:47:31 AM
This particular thread is a bit of an overreaction by godslim, but yea, for jRPG's he is. As am I!
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Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:11:49 PM
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Highlander
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 1:19:22 AM
;)
Then there's the collection of racers including, but not limited to Burnout Paradise, MotorStorm, MotorStorm Pacific Rift, GT5Prolog, WipeOut HD, Ridge Racer 7, and then there is Uncharted 1 & 2 (2 of my 3 Plats) and inFamous 1 & 2, and of course the Ratchet and Clank collection, and many more...I'm just not big into shooters and survival/Horror games.
However, yes, I am passionate about technology - and gaming in general. That's why I see the hyper success of a single franchise in a single extremely dominant genre that literally overshadows the other genre as an issue.
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apples14
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:41:17 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:49:48 PM
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I'd really love to see some thoughtfulness get back into gaming. Even Duke Nukem Forever takes a kiloton more thought to traverse than a CoD game.
At the very least I'd like to see the half assed action stuff leave the great stuff like FF and Dragon Age alone.
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 6/20/2011 9:51:02 PM
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Qubex
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 11:44:09 PM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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SnipeySnake
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:54:31 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:57:45 PM
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If it's good COD might reign longer then expected.
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SnipeySnake
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:59:12 PM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:48:01 AM
And I very much agree with Ben here. It's only a question of time until someone takes over after COD.
COD have to change *something* each time, at the same time it can not change *too much*, and that is one helluva balancing challenge.
Last edited by Beamboom on 6/21/2011 3:49:41 AM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:59:27 PM
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If there needs to be anymore proof of how biased and retarded most game reviewers are these days, it's the fact that they continue to give these games glowing reviews each year while complaining about games like inFamous 2 for "playing too much like the previous game". It's pretty pathetic.
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FM23
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:05:48 PM
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Godslim
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 5:54:05 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:37:56 AM
How does the SP change everytime in CoD? It's exactly the same every time. The only change I noticed between BO and MW2 was that in BO when running and going prone, you'd do a little dive. That's the ONLY change.
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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:10:28 AM
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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:02:03 AM
No offense but that's utter nonsense and you know it.
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bigrailer19
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:34:09 PM
As far as inFMAMOUS goes it is a direct sequel to the first. The story carried right over, so there would be many similarities. But some of the core elements changed, we got new powers, new ways to travel and triverse, a new melee combat system, some better graphics, and the list goes on. It was a direct sequel we couldn't have possibly thought i2 would have been a different game completely could we have?
Don't get me started on Uncharted either. This thread would get pretty long...
Last edited by bigrailer19 on 6/21/2011 12:37:13 PM
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matt99
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 7:45:49 PM
Besides the point of a sequel is not to completely re-invent a game but to add on and improve one.
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FM23
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:09:18 PM
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Mamills
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:09:19 PM
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i think CoD has already hit its peak.
arn't they charging $15 a month for stat tracking?
now i wonder if they'll ever remove that stupid auto aim. or any of the other retarded Sh*t.
lol i still remember when i did 68 n 8 with a knife.
god that game is broken
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BTNwarrior
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:12:19 PM
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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:32:18 AM
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Fane1024
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:01:50 AM
;P
(hides under a pile of shields)
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:09:50 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:40:07 AM
You can "level up" and unlock everything in CoD online in a single evening.
I'm sorry, but there is nothing RPG'ish about CoD. Nice joke though.
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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:19:02 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:37:22 AM
Anyways, I enjoyed the SP more than the MP by far.
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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:49:11 PM
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Alienange
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:18:47 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:36:03 PM
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:12:39 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:42:06 AM
In terms of multiplayer, they are, on paper, very good, but most of it is broken.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 8:43:05 AM
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Alienange
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:54:46 AM
And Lawless... Really? Pick your shots and take your time? That's what makes KZ2's campaign better? You can't do that in any other shooter? You make me laugh and you clearly don't know what makes a great fps great.
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:11:06 PM
That's what I have a beef with.
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:56:02 PM
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Dreno
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:19:15 PM
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Then they will give us an ff worthy of the title.
Now, this comment was made by hearing what everyone ( or atleast a hefty chunk of everyone ) here at psxe has said about ff13. I've still yet to try it. So maybe I can't make this comment.
But I'm an rpg fan like most here, and my views of what an rpg should be are pretty much the same as the other rpg lovers. So I feel I can make this comment in all fairness.
Oh and don't get me wrong, I like cod. But codblops blew goat testies. Real bad.
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:08:59 AM
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Temjin001
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:24:09 PM
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I'm good with that. I seem to like bits and pieces from all the many FPS offerings out there.
I like CoD for it's exhilarating scenes and arcade excitement. I like Half Life 2 for it's awesomeness in every form I can think of. I like Killzone for it's uncanny visual presentation and best feeling movement and weaponary physics, fav cover based FPS play too. I love Halo for it's vehicles and it's rich sci-fi orientation, love the core soundtrack themes too.
I sort of wish I could've included Crysis 2 on that list, but I feel like it's neither here nor there for me. Yeah, that don't make sense, but it's all I care to say.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:37:55 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:32:54 PM
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Alienange
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:45:09 PM
You know it's true.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 10:50:15 PM
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Dreno
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 11:39:47 PM
Alienange : I agree with you 100%. Best ff ever, imo.
World: its boss that its your 2nd fav. Atleast its top 3. And thanks, it is now stuck in my noggin aswell.
Da da da. Da da da. Da da da duh nuh nuh nuh nuh.
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Temjin001
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 11:44:02 PM
It was great stuff.
Though, somebody needs to tell Squall how to behave when a girl is playing in his lap.
The dude just sat their stiff lost in his head.
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:03:04 AM
Easy: FFVIII was one of the best, if not, THE best FF. It was my first :)
Btw... Now it's stuck in my head. Thank you, World.
Last edited by Gamer Girl Gemo on 6/21/2011 12:03:29 AM
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Dreno
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:25:56 AM
God I'm nerd....
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:30:30 AM
Everybody else, sorry bout sticking that in your brain. But now us fans, separated by thousands of miles, are all thinking the same thing.
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Dreno
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:53:06 AM
I love it, just wish I would've gotten it somewhere else. I especially like what it represents.
Like the lion part, represents strength, pride and dignity among other things. And the cross part represents acceptance of ones life and death.
But yes, we are all thinking the same thing sir. Thank you for bringing back memories of ffVIII.
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gunblademaster
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:11:03 AM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 1:53:10 PM
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:01:35 AM
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All joking aside, I know that I'll be grabbing MW3. I know that I'll only be doing this because all of my online friends will be grabbing it. And I know that they'll be grabbing it because their friends are going to be getting it, and so on. I feel like that's why this franchise sells so many copies. "Because my friends are getting it."
I will admit that I'm a very avid CoD player. I've actually got a large and active clan that I'm the head of. But if it weren't for the social interaction and friends I have that go there daily... CoD would be virtually nothing to me. The storyline was quite decent. A good amount of gameplay time, decent story and plot, and enough to keep me entertained... But not enough for me to want to buy another CoD if it were the storylines only. I suppose that's where CoD gets its consumers from. The multiplayer hook. Without it, I feel as though CoD would be nothing.
Either way, the die-hard fanboys of this franchise will most likely keep the old thing afloat for quite a while. Unless MW3 screws up...? Nah. The fanboys will make their excuses and buy, buy, buy. And Infinity Ward will find more ways to fill their already full pockets.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:33:09 AM
Translation: people should feel bad for supporting CoD over other games.
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:28:42 AM
I think it's main down to the fact that I can filter out the US kids, when I got online in the UK at night. Then you dont have 10 yr olds playing at 10-11 at night.
Much better.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:46:29 AM
...pretty sure that's ostrich syndrome.
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:04:58 AM
I like Cod. Simple as.
Without starting a whole new issue, but the sheers amount of numbers it has sold, must show some indication that people like the game.
My comment was in specific reference to the community.
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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 6:01:54 PM
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D1g1tal5torm
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 8:58:52 AM
capiche?
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Palpatations911
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:21:32 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:33:51 AM
...and who are you again?
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:35:23 AM
The idea is much larger than a single game.
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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 6:14:23 AM
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godsdream
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:52:33 AM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:41:24 AM
So just like with music and movies, you gotta look elsewhere than the sales charts for the good stuff. ;)
Well, almost. Game sales charts still has *some* relevance.
Last edited by Beamboom on 6/21/2011 11:42:31 AM
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:24:02 AM
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If the game really gels with your style, it's incredibly difficult to be torn away from it. I mean, were you to try to separate me from inFamous, I'd try to kill you. The difference is though, that CoDfans seem to have a closed mind. They don't like to try anything other than what they're accustomed to, and that frustrates the ever-loving hell out of me. One of his key praises for the game was that the graphics from the trailer are 'awesome'. I told him to watch some of BF3, Crysis 2, KZ3, etc.
Anyway, I can't wait for the day that such people wake up and realise that such mindlessness is not a good thing. I just... it saddens me. But, the future is actually looking really bright. The slow migration of every game to becoming similar to CoD that I had feared seems not to be taking place. It's a wonder. Instead, we have a future with a great amount of diversity, and I can't wait to experience it.
Peace.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:42:03 AM
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:56:31 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:39:22 AM
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heh heh, I just beat Duke, after all is said and done, a good, fun game. It stays in the collection. I'm already sending audio quotes that I unlocked over my cell phone "My Balls, Your Face" Take that people.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:02:19 PM
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Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 4:03:25 AM
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___________
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 4:24:58 AM
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and GOW4 will be on the 360, and the next mario kart will be a launch title for the ps4!
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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 6:15:45 AM
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Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 6:28:38 AM
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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 6:43:48 AM
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Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 6:37:41 AM
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Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:51:29 AM
i'm not saying this site is biased but i think it would be fair to say ben prefers rpgs over shooters.
he's professionel enough to not let that reflect in the review scores.
i still don't think shooters will suffer the same fate as rpg's.
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:21:31 AM
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An RPG biased site moaning about the success of a FPS.
I know we're in a lull re games, but this is scrapping the bottom of barrel.
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:48:04 AM
;)
But seriously, a couple comments up in response to Palpitations, read what World wrote. I don't feel like re-writing that.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 8:52:09 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:45:10 AM
Such an "RPG-biased site" it is, too. We give SUCH abnormally high scores to those games. And we give SUCH abnormally low scores to shooters. And...
...oh, wait. Our average score for the shooter genre is way higher than the average score for the RPG genre. Modern Warfare a 9.4...Hyperdimension Neptunia a 6.8...and that's only one example....hmmm.....
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/21/2011 9:45:46 AM
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:06:21 AM
...there's still a lot of hate for them.
Just look at the comments for this peice as a classic example. 'ostrich mentality'? :0)
Last edited by D1g1tal5torm on 6/21/2011 10:08:07 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:08:57 AM
At any rate, I don't think there's any hate for the shooter genre at all, really. People are always praising Killzone, Battlefield 3, Fallout, Halo, Gears of War, etc. etc. The only 'hate' out there are the more hardcore gamers bemoaning the fact that Call of Duty, specifically, doesn't try to progress the series.
The only real hate you find here is at CoD. The common criticism being, why is the most paid for video game the least likely to put money into it's production values? Bear in mind, most of these "CoD haters" have played numerous CoD titles and are beginning to grow tired of them.
Basically, you (and a few others) have misread this article as some sort of CoD-attack and are blindly defending it as if someone is attacking it. Ben is obviously frustrated at people's inability to garner any sort of reading comprehension.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 10:14:01 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:15:47 AM
Obviously, that isn't the case.
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kevinater321
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:16:10 AM
Last edited by kevinater321 on 6/21/2011 10:16:48 AM
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:17:07 AM
still, no harm done.
And seeing as you edited your's - I'll edit mine.
I made an error in encompassing all fps, let's target cod.
Last edited by D1g1tal5torm on 6/21/2011 10:19:49 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:24:17 AM
Except that Ben still has the average scores of all genres on his side. :p
@Digital Storm
I didn't alter anything in my post. I added more. The way you say I edited it makes it sound like I changed my messaging.
"U definitely dont get it judging by your last post"
I misread what you said. I thought you were saying the comments for this piece were classic examples of "ostrich mentality". I saw the two thoughts merged together and thought they were apart of the same thought. If that were the case, than clearly my point makes perfect sense. lol. I now see you meant to ask what ostrich mentality (syndrome) is or are asking for clarification on why he said that. (Still isn't clear. lol)
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 10:30:18 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:33:56 AM
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/21/2011 10:34:20 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:35:06 AM
I bet for every bad shooter score vs. excellent rpg score on this site you find, I can easily double it the other way around. :p
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:38:43 AM
I understand it perfectly and just for you...
t'internet explanation, 'Denying or refusing to acknowledge something that is blatantly obvious as if your head were in the sand like an ostrich.'
My comment was in relation to the hating in the comments section of the site, which has a heavy rpg presence, to cod.
You probably only need to read the comments section of any article on this site about cod to get a gist/understanding/clarity.
One last point for the grammar police...
My question, ''Ostrich mentality?' :0)' could be read in a few different ways.
You take it as 'What is ostrich mentality?', it could also be read as 'Is this a case of ostrich mentality?' By using the three characters at the very end of my comment, I would hope that you may take the second explanation as my actual meaning.
I hope we don't have to explain in such graphic detail all posts for you.
lol
Last edited by D1g1tal5torm on 6/21/2011 10:50:25 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:09:47 AM
Why are you writing out your definition of the ostrich mentality? I clearly stated that I misread what you wrote the first time. I fully understand why you wrote, "Ostrich Mentality". I misread it because it was mashed together with the first sentence, and I didn't see the punctuation between the two sentences because of that typo. Hense why I thought you were saying Ben's comments were a form of Ostrich mentality. This assumption led me to assume you don't understand what it is. I've already cleared this up. Why do you ignore this?
I am glad, however, you took the time to give your own definition of it. It made clear to me you get the idea, but don't quite fully grasp the meaning. Yes, you could say it is as if their heads are under the sand, but you missed a very important aspect. And that aspect is denying an obvious truth by justifying a separate unrelated fact. (By putting its head in a hole, an ostrich fools itself into thinking all is well by averting it's eyes from what it does not want to see) It isn't hiding, as you assume. It is the aversion of attention to an immediate truth that is often unrelated and separate from the truth that is meant to be addressed. You're close though.
I've already explained this. Your vivid description was all pointless typing for my sake. I was already fully aware what was going on. Perhaps it is you that needs the detailed descriptors.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 11:10:25 AM
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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:16:35 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:23:22 AM
As Alienage would say, the following comment is "Self-Serving much?"
Do not test me in a battle of wit. I am a million times your better and will own you at the drop of a hat. You have one advantage over me, of course. And that advantage is your ability to completely side-step any legitimate point I make by pretending it has not been made at all. Often, I find that when a person is inable to comprehend a complete thought and only able to focus on a single detail at any point, they often feel like they have somehow won.
The problem with that way of thinking, of course, is that it perpetuates them into a downward spiral of misinformation and poorly developed debating skills. See, you are constantly patting yourself on the back because you feel you raise a point well. Now, if the points you addressed were, in fact, the entire point, it would certainly be an accomplishment! However, in the greater scheme of all that is to be addressed, your reading comprehension fails you in that you completely ignore many relevant facts. In your own mind, however, only the points you addressed are the points worth fighting. This results in a false sense of accomplishment. Sure it frustrates your opponent, but only because they have found themselves fighting with someone who will never understand how to rise to their level. Which means people like me will be inevitably trying to educated people like you -while- arguing. If the educator finds the educatee incapable of grasping the concepts laid before them, you, the educatee, will continue to feel a sense of accomplishment due to the fact that they have won all arguments to the extent of what is their cognitive capacity. In reality, among the educated, they will be seen as fools incapable of grasping a non-linear approach to a conversation. However, in their own minds and the minds of their equals, they will never lose.
This is the spiral I find myself in with people like you. You remain incapable of addressing any legitimate or long winded points I make due to the fact that you will continue only to address specific parts you feel capable of addressing. In the end, you will feel a level of success, and I will feel an immense amount of frustration that I wasted time with someone incapable of rising to my intellectual capacity. -Bear in mind, of course, that my intellectual capacity is not even that high in comparison to most other scholars and even to many other members of this site.
The fact that you posted a long winded post making statements that cause me to think to myself, "Yes I know... I know.... I KNOW.... GAWD why can't you understand me! You are telling me nothing!" tells me that you are missing everything I am trying to tell you.
It's not even that you disagree! You just haven't caught onto the fact I've made a point!
It's just one of many reasons why we need much, much more funding from the government for "social services".
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 11:29:17 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:24:18 AM
And thus, my long winded point has been proven.
win = Underdog15
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 11:24:41 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:38:14 AM
(Best if kept frozen)
Want some? I can't eat the whole thing, and it's no good after a couple days.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 11:39:10 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:53:42 AM
And I literally actually have that cake here. Not a prize, obviously, but it was on sale. :p I'm going to eat some after I finish my PB&Jam sandwich my wife made me. Ah yeah... it's a good day.
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D1g1tal5torm
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 9:16:02 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:01:29 AM
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kevinater321
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:04:03 AM
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dirdiggler
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:31:44 AM
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:00:43 PM
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BIGRED15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 12:20:29 PM
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... lol served!
@digitalstorm
I think its safe to say you kicked the hornets nest around here... Clearly there is proof that shooters, GOOD shooters are held in high regard. RPGS have stagnated but people around here definately long for the genre to be revived (im indifferent but you get the idea... i hope.) You really aren't helping yourself at challenging underdog... fool knows his games, better than a lot of people. There is no bias in ben's reviews in fact if you want to read the most accurate honest reviews, his is it... really. People in the PSX community prefer the RPG genre but they dont dismiss Shooters in fact the comment you made was a very blatant generalization
Let me try and assist underdog and the rest of the community in helping you understand why COD and only COD is dismissed. Okay it gets good reviews because technically its a sound game. The reason why people have grown to dislike COD is the complete disregard people have for any other better deserving game when they start drinink the COD coolaid. Do you really think Cod should have sold 20 million copies more than uncharted 2, killzone 2 Bad company 2? UH NO! those games are clearly superior but since they dont carry the COD name they cease to matter around the COD community. Thats what grinds our gears... well at least mine the most. As a true gamer... ONE WHO PLAYS EVERYTHING! Not just cod, I can tell you from experience that its highly disappointing when trying to explain to a Codite the joys of games like infamous or killzone and they completely ignore your sentiments and from experience, the cod junkies are just that... ignorant and a lot of them make it easy for us t generalize that all COD players are ignorant to the rest of the gaming world
Another point i'd like to make is when talking to people who are unfamiliar with the videogames, they love to generalize that gamers are mindless due to what they play. When asking about specific examples, on numerous occasions COD is the example. And thats unfortunate because a lot of games can tax the brain, but when gamers are generalized based off of COD... well nothing irritates me more. COD doesn't challenge people. It's claim to fame is its accessibility which is fine, but there's a huge difference between making a game for the sake of profiet or for creating new gamers. COD is what it is for profiet only. It has passed the point of being a fresh accesible game, and now it's stagnated and people are fed up with a game that refuses to evolve or continues to rake in millions while more well deserving devs clearly deserve the larger market share.
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:20:49 PM
I personally enjoy CoD, particularly the Single Player. I'm platinum'd both Black Ops and MW2. I get pretty frustrated with the MP booting me out of games or splitting up my party, but on the whole I don't mind. I'm like you... I get frustrated that people don't recognize other much more technically sound and high quality titles. More specifically, I'm bothered that they make more money than any other game, yet don't invest much of it at all into creating a tighter title.
It's good, but they could make it better. With relative ease, too.
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Darwin1967
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 1:25:26 PM
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BIGRED15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:17:36 PM
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OPHIDIAN
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:31:23 PM
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Tip: next time your in a shop, you see CoD on the shelf, walk past it, pretend it is not there. There you go, life sorted.
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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 2:56:16 PM
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BIGRED15
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:02:59 PM
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oh and change the channels or websites when advertisements pop up or ignore it when someone says cod is the best game ever uncharted sucked balls, and walk past cod posters in windows or turn off your ps3 when someone on your friends list puts in their comment box 8th prestige FTW!
... Yea because all that makes sense... We cant just ignore it because its everywhere, and why shouldn't it be they pay big money to market the damn thing.
Cod doesn't effect FF fans, I beleive ben was using FF as an example showing what happens to a game when it changes the formula, sacrificing long term fans in the process. Its going to happen to COD eventually just like FF. That was the main idea that it would appear you missed reading the article.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:25:07 PM
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It's simply about how all - ALL - enduring, popular video game franchises have changed over the years, and CoD isn't immune to that.
And considering the scores we give CoD games (and other shooters), the only logical conclusion one could make based on those numbers is that we're almost biased TOWARDS shooters.
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:37:43 PM
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This is a "Warning" to all users of Gmail, Yahoo, Twitter, Paypal, Facebook, World of Warcraft and Xbox Live.......
Xbox Live Information Included In LulzSec Account Info Dump June 17, 2011
Sometime yesterday, hacking group LulzSec dropped a tweet with a link to a text file full of email addresses and passwords related to accounts from Gmail, Yahoo, Twitter, Paypal, Facebook, World of Warcraft and Xbox Live.
There's been no information as to how these accounts were compromised, either through phishing or an actual hack, but it is a problem for some whose accounts have already been plundered since the release. The text file contains only email addresses and passwords with no indication of which service they're linked to, but anyone with enough time on their hands could get a few hits. And if users have used the same passwords across multiple services, then hackers could have access to a range of services.
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-live-information-included-in-lulzsec-account-info-dump/
***** Related story *****
LulzSec Reportedly Targets Xbox Live Account Info Jun. 17th, 2011
Hacker group LulzSec has reportedly released a file containing Xbox Live user information in combination with logins for other services such as Facebook, Twitter and Paypal. The exact amount of information compromised is not known at this time but the hacking group isn’t picking targets – casual gamers, long time live players and even government official’s information may have been compromised.
The group uploaded a large file containing usernames and passwords for the various services including Xbox Live last night. The file has since been removed but not before LulzSec could claim that the file had been viewed thousands of times.
The leak was first exposed through LulSec’s twitter account. There they wrote about abusing the breached information and messing with compromised Facebook and Social Networking accounts.
"Envelope yourself in the sickening realization that you secretly love f--king someone's Facebook life beyond repair." - Quote from LulzSec Twitter Account
We’ve reached out to Xbox Live’s community team for comment regarding the possible breach of Xbox Live Accounts. Should any further information break regarding this possible security risk we will make sure to bring it to you. For now the best advice would be to check your Xbox Live account and make sure that your password still works and that no unauthorized purchases have been made on the Marketplace under your account.
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/24144/LulzSec-Reportedly-Targets-Xbox-Live-Account-Info/
*****On another related note*****
Suspected LulzSec Member Arrested In U.K.
Posted June 21, 2011
Develop reports that police in London have arrested a 19 year-old male in connection with several recent cyber attacks. The arrest was based in Essex, with the teenager being taken in on suspicion of violating both the Computer Misuse Act and the Fraud Act. It was carried out with help from the FBI, according to a police statement. Scotland Yard said the arrest has “led to the examination of a significant amount of material”.
There was no direct link between the suspect and LulzSec, but the police did mention the arrest “follows an investigation into network intrusions and Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks against a number of international business and intelligence agencies by what is believed to be the same hacking group.” LulzSec recently took down a number of sites, including those related to Bethesda Softworks, The Escapist, Minecraft, EVE Online, and League of Legends. On its official Twitter site, the group denied anyone related to them had been arrested.
“Seems the glorious leader of LulzSec got arrested, it's all over now... wait... we're all still here! Which poor bastard did they take down?” it tweeted.
This is the second public arrest related to the recent hacks perpetrated against the gaming industry and various government agencies. Two weeks ago, three suspected Anonymous members were arrested in Spain.
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/suspected-lulzsec-member-arrested-in-essex/
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sha4dowknight05
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 3:40:29 PM
How about you go sure those monkey handlers!!!
Get enough money from them to get an original 60gb BRAND NEW off ebay!
Yes I know they run for $3000 each plus shipping they have never been opened before so still just like getting them new!!!
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 4:37:42 PM
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LOL
Well, the USPS claims department sent me a letter last week asking that I sent them a copy of my original 60 GB's receipt, which I had already done in my original paperwork to them.
So I went over to staples & not only photocopied that receipt, I also did another one blowing up the line where it said PS3 & price(I had multiple purchases on it) so that that single line itself was 8 1/2 X 11.
That way, there's no f*cking way they could miss it.
Now the ball's in their court so I just waiting their response back on whether I scored my 3-pointer, or if they want to spend just f*cking dribbling all over my court.
And if all they want want to do is just dribble, then I'll make sure that they use it to spit-shine my lawyer's boots.
BTW, I wouldn't mind one of those new 60's but even if I hadn't gotten laid off last month, I still couldn't justify making those f*cking scumbag leech shysters $2400 richer, off a original $600 machine.
I'll just wind up buying another 60GB either used or re-furbed.
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Fane1024
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 7:55:20 PM
If you make the gorillas angry, they'll just spend the next few days tossing Sampsonite luggage around their cages.
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sha4dowknight05
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:09:20 PM
USPS you BIT***!!!!
Pay bikersaint UP!
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 1:08:10 AM
Those USPS Magilla Gorilla's had better watch out or they'll wind up with nothing more than a hernia trying to damage a Samsonite.
Damn, now I wish my Phat Princess had been made of that same USPS ape-resistant material too.
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Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 7:39:27 PM
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i hope eveything works out, and you can get your 60bg ps3 replaced. it's a really awesome machine becuase of backwards compatabilty, extra usb ports, and card readers. it's like 3 consoles in one. i even like the looks oh them better. i've never liked the looks of ps3 slim becuase it looks a little cheap and plain compared to awesome looking shiny fat ps3. i love that original design. the chrome makes it look great.
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 1:15:47 AM
Yeah, if I get my full $500 claim, I'll use it to buy another used or re-furbed 60 gigger, asap.
Plus, I'll also put another 640(or even 750) HD in her. And I should have a few bucks left over to spare for a few new games too.
Then I'll pack up my new 320 GB slim to only be used in case of another 60gb blinking light emergency(knock on wood).
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JackDillinger89
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 8:59:13 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 12:28:55 AM
But no name-calling. Obviously a mistake.
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JMO_INDY
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 1:14:15 AM
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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:19:13 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:31:01 PM
Calm down will ya, obvisouly theres no reason to take up arms instantly.
Just an occasionaly broswer screw up.
not to mention he at least explained his reason.
No need to call anyone a bitch?
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JackDillinger89
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:19:20 PM
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JackDillinger89
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:30:17 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 9:46:47 PM
Doesn't know any better but to start name calling.
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JMO_INDY
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 1:06:43 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 2:33:59 PM
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startazz
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 1:31:06 PM
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By the way i'm far from a COD fanboy/man and couldn't care less if they bring out another COD game but i do want to see what MW3 has to offer,to be honest i'm just about sick of seeing a COD game every year now ;-(
Sorry but i've never seen what all the fuss is about when it comes to FF ;-(
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MysticJon
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 1:45:28 PM
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sdragon001
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 7:28:47 PM
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just becasue we dont see them in north America release does not ean there dieing or dead...
there is alot of jrpg's in japan and all over the east there are not bringing them oversees thats all the hard core jrpg players know this well enough to hope for a tales of.. release over here, theres is new Ys in dev but no plans for it to come over seas...
i guess im trying to say is there not dead there just not in english.... so well lets learn a new languge... here i come roseta stone.....
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sdragon001
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 7:36:12 PM
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Highlander
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Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 9:32:05 PM