Capcom's Despicable New Way Of Fighting Used Games?
Okay Capcom, we admit it. We're a little confused.
We've seen several publishers institute a method of combating used game sales (of which those publishers never see a dime); it's the paid online pass. Basically, if you buy the game new, you don't pay to play online; if you purchase it used, you won't get the online pass code that comes in the box, and you have to pay $10 to compete online.
But this may be taking everything to a whole new level- According to Eurogamer, Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D for the Nintendo 3DS has a message in the manual, which reads- "saved data on this software cannot be reset." Hence, you can't delete save data and start a new game, so it's really only playable once. Eurogamer has seen the UK version in front of them, and Tiny Cartridge has posted up pics of the US manual, too. Is this a new way of combating used game sales? I mean, you wouldn't even be able to sell this game used at all, right?
But what if you wanted to play it again? What if you just lent it to a friend? The game is rendered useless after one play-through? That can't be correct. ...can it?
Tags: used games, capcom, game news, resident evil mercenaries
6/28/2011 9:29:50 AM Ben Dutka
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djbool
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:13:05 AM
Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:20:18 PM
Claire C
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 5:07:13 PM
Douchebaguette
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 5:54:30 PM
Beamboom
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:49:37 AM
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What if they tried to do the same with books, or music albums...? I love to browse through used books in markets!
I guess some publishers would if they could. Still, it's a sad sight.
Last edited by Beamboom on 6/28/2011 9:51:41 AM
Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:52:22 AM
maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:15:17 AM
According to the NPD, May was the worst month in 5 years. Publishers and developers have little choice but to pursue another avenue here, and that street is named "Used Games Drive".
Beamboom
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 2:19:56 PM
@Maxpontiac: It's not like I feel sorry for them Max, really.
They are part of an up-and-coming business segment that's conquered half the entire friggin' entertainment business during no more than the last couple of decades.
They are "not poor, starving artists".
They don't have to worry much about what tomorrow will bring, other than to keep competing to create the best products.
Last edited by Beamboom on 6/28/2011 2:28:24 PM
Claire C
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 6:59:54 PM
Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:51:36 AM
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The online pass I can actually see the point of because when a used game buyer buys the game they have no customer relationship with the publisher, and if they want to use the publisher's online resources, they need to establish that relationship and pay for that additional service. I can see the logic and sense behind that - as long as it's truly about additional online service/content and not just enabling content on the disc. But this practice that Capcom appears to be going after is very different and really quite anti-gamer.
Not that I want to start a rumor, but I want Sony to be very clear that Vita games will not do this, since they come on cards with a local re-writeable area for saves.
Last edited by Highlander on 6/28/2011 9:55:36 AM
Killa Tequilla
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:46:34 AM
Ignitus
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 12:13:01 PM
Oxvial
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:54:06 AM
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Also creepy hackers trying to get your personal info with your console.
Last edited by Oxvial on 6/28/2011 9:55:09 AM
ZettaiSeigi
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:59:15 AM
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darxed
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:59:36 AM
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:37:00 AM
Here's a quote from TinyCartridge;
"There’s speculation that Capcom deliberately made it impossible for users to delete their save data to discourage used game sales — since those who buy Mercenaries 3D used can’t wipe the save and start over from the beginning, some Japanese shops will only pay very low prices (as low as $6!) for pre-played copies."
That seems to confirm that you can't start over.
Last edited by Highlander on 6/28/2011 10:38:21 AM
maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:07:26 AM
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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:34:05 AM
maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:21:24 PM
But my point is, that sales outside of a few mega hitters are lacking, and since we don't know the extent of sales with the used games section, my guess is it's high enough to warrant that publishers and developers dip into it.
If new game sales as a whole continue to decline, it should only be obvious that more and more companies will follow suit.
I have mentioned this before, but Xbox Live was only the beginning of charging people to play. It was online passes, and now it seems locked saves might be another domino.
VIVIsectVI
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:15:52 AM
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GuyverLT
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:23:34 AM
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Seriously Capcom, WTF????
I play through games more then once as I'm everyone else does too... I think, and if they do this then as much as I want to play DmC, if I only can play through it once, then there is no point in buying @ full price especially if I can just rent them.
Last edited by GuyverLT on 6/28/2011 10:24:55 AM
jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:21:21 AM
Jawknee
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:29:32 AM
jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:39:17 AM
GuyverLT
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:45:59 AM
Asura's Wrath, (looks like it's just over the top action, although it might get Repetitive), Dragon's Dogma looks even more promising and fun, that Resident Evil looks like it will be somewhat fun to play with a friend. They might not seem that way to you, but they look like possibly good games to me and if they're not then it's whatever, there are other games out there for us to enjoy.
Jawknee
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:52:54 AM
Seems to me the game itself is the real ripoff...the locked save data is just an added "screw you" by Crapcom.
GuyverLT
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:55:57 AM
Jawknee
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:06:11 PM
Temjin001
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:45:48 AM
Neo_Aeon666
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:18:18 AM
We need a million signatures gamer petition and we need to ban their games from our lists as a result of their changes until they undo the uglyness
Jawknee
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:28:15 AM
The Doom
Wednesday, June 29, 2011 @ 9:16:41 AM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:01:00 AM
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gumbi
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:01:28 AM
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This all sounds pretty shady, I like replaying my favourite games from scratch.
Last edited by gumbi on 6/28/2011 11:02:05 AM
Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:09:45 AM
gumbi
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 3:36:36 PM
Ultimadesires
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:04:03 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:05:07 AM
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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 12:00:00 PM
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AnonWTF
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 12:32:49 PM
The games overall score is going to shoot way down and is not worth purchasing.
mehrab2603
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 12:35:31 PM
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Lord carlos
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 12:36:16 PM
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Veitsknight
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:04:33 PM
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coverton341
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:40:05 PM
Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:08:15 PM
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"In Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D, all mission progress is saved directly to the Nintendo 3DS cartridge, where it cannot be reset...The nature of the game invites high levels of replayability in order to improve mission scores. In addition, this feature does not remove any content available for users."
They (Capcom) also say; "Secondhand game sales were not a factor in this development decision, so we hope that all our consumers will be able to enjoy the entirety of the survival-action experiences that the game does offer."
I think that they actually screwed up. It's a survival action game, and by not allowing the save to reset, you can't go backwards in your playthrough, only forwards, The no reset feature forces the player to play through the game - in true survival action fashion. Once you complete an element you can go back and replay it, but you can't replay the whole game from the beginning. I think it was meant to be a 'cute' feature that increased the tension of the game. I just don't think that they thought through the impact of the no-reset thing.
Veitsknight
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:26:11 PM
Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:32:58 PM
CrusaderForever
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:13:48 PM
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What this means IMHO is that if you play the game let's say half way through. You stop playing the game because a new more interesting game is coming out. So you theoretically sell Capcom's game to Gamestop to get the new game. You beat the new game and decided you want to play through the game you sold earlier. You cannot go and buy a used game because it won't match the saved game ID/tag on your PS3. You are screwed and have to buy the game again. You more than likely have to enter a code into your redeem codes portion of your PS3 that will reset the save game data making it possible to play the game that you have now bought TWICE!!!
What I am trying to say is that you CANNOT SELL THE GAME! This is ridiculous! This will EPIC FAIL. I have played many games and sold them and then bought them again USED because I missed them. Capcom is going to really take a hit to its reputation with this one. If I am correct that is.
Last edited by CrusaderForever on 6/28/2011 1:14:13 PM
Veitsknight
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:24:31 PM
Capcom has just got too greedy this time aroubd. I wonder how the PS Vita will handle their saves.
ZettaiSeigi
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 6:18:01 PM
Veitsknight
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 10:55:02 PM
Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:52:02 PM
godsdream
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 1:33:46 PM
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main_event05
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 2:36:52 PM
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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 4:04:23 PM
Temjin001
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 3:33:06 PM
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Or however that's said.
Last edited by Temjin001 on 6/28/2011 3:34:22 PM
Highlander
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 4:42:03 PM
As I posted earlier...
Capcom told GiantBomb the following;
"In Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D, all mission progress is saved directly to the Nintendo 3DS cartridge, where it cannot be reset...The nature of the game invites high levels of replayability in order to improve mission scores. In addition, this feature does not remove any content available for users."
They (Capcom) also say; "Secondhand game sales were not a factor in this development decision, so we hope that all our consumers will be able to enjoy the entirety of the survival-action experiences that the game does offer."
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I think that they actually screwed up. It's a survival action game, and by not allowing the save to reset, you can't go backwards in your playthrough, only forwards, The no reset feature forces the player to play through the game - in true survival action fashion. Once you complete an element you can go back and replay it, but you can't replay the whole game from the beginning. I think it was meant to be a 'cute' feature that increased the tension of the game. I just don't think that they thought through the impact of the no-reset thing.
Darwin1967
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 5:55:10 PM
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sa3vis
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:36:54 PM
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sa3vis
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:36:54 PM
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sa3vis
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:36:54 PM
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sa3vis
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:36:55 PM
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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 11:56:41 PM
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Gabriel013
Wednesday, June 29, 2011 @ 12:46:15 AM
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jimmyhandsome
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Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 9:49:29 AM
Hopefully this isn't entirely accurate. If it is people should show their displeasure by not purchasing the title. Hell any kind of noise from ticked off gamers about this would be great. This sort of thing can't catch on.
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