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The Battlefield 3/Modern Warfare 3 Fight Is Already Tired

Man, are we really going to have to live through four more months of this? I'm not sure I can take it.

I play just about every shooter that comes my way, and it isn't always because work demands it. I really like my shooters and there's no doubt I'll play through and enjoy both Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. Will I be blown away? That remains to be seen but I have high hopes. My biggest complaint right now centers on this constant war going on between the two blockbusters...and I'm sorry, but I'm already bored.

"Our game uses Frostbite 2!" "Our game runs at 60 frames per second!" "We already made a game better than Call of Duty; it was called Battlefield: Bad Company 2!" "We'll produce the most popular video game in history...again!" "Battlefield 3 will give you the ultimate single-player campaign!" "Modern Warfare 3 will once again redefine multiplayer!" "Look at this gameplay!" No, look at this gameplay!" ...'yaaaaawn' How often can we talk about this? And for how long? Really?

The worst part is that both Activision and EA are well aware of the buzz, and continue to fan the flames for the sake of higher potential sales. These headlines just aren't going to stop and unfortunately, if we wish to remain current, we'll have to keep up with them. However, that being said, I'm not about to post every last piece of "news" concerning either game; the majority of it isn't actually news, anyway.

Related Game(s): Battlefield 3, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Tags: call of duty, modern warfare 3, cod, battlefield 3

7/3/2011 9:16:53 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (59 posts)

NLCanada
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 9:39:53 PM
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I have no doubt that Battlefield will again put out another great game. But what sucks for them is that no matter how hard they push the game, it will not come close in terms of #'s compared to MW3. Both games are alot of fun, it's just that the Call of Duty series has a much larger audience.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 @ 11:03:13 AM

COD has a larger audience, and that's a fact. Something tells me that while BF3 will be a superior title as compared to MW3, it won't really matter.

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Killa Tequilla
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 9:44:24 PM
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DICE & Activision should just handshake and say, " no hard feelings " to each other. Maybe even make a game together. But man o man am I liking Battlefield 3! It uses FIFA's technorogry in its soldiers! Making their sprint look realistic! Also FROSTBITE 2, realistic gun sounds! Damn..... Can't wait.

As for Mw3, I think I know what to expect....

I've played CoD4, CoDWaW, CoDMw2 & CoDBO.... Can Mw3 be much different? Even uses the exact same engine...

Battlefield 3 FTW!

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matt99
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 9:44:36 PM
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I could not agree more with this article, and I do thank you Ben for not over saturating the site with MW3/BF3 stuff. As far as I'm concerned the only info we need about either game is if they release more gameplay footage/list of more features/actual news worthy stuff, not just this childish "no I'm better" banter.

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Russell Burrows
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 9:53:22 PM
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Pauses from looking at Vivitek Qumi 720p projector.

Ben is right.

Goes back to evaluating the Vivitek Qumi 720p projector.

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Temjin001
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 12:54:51 AM

I have a bud who has a home theater setup with one of those HD projectors. They really are quite amazing. And in same crazy way they don't make your games look all jagged out with edges. It's like how you see them on a normal HDTV.. just the screen is way, way more HUGE.

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BeezleDrop
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 9:58:08 PM
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Agreed as well,

But people are going to compare until the games come out and the reviews come in, and about this "BF3 will never outsell MW3" GS confirmed BF3 is outselling MW3 as of lately. So, yeah.

MW3 will be great for the fans but as an experienced gamer my problem is the engine, which really needs to be scrapped because what they currently "produce" on is a buggy mess, its pretty bad. BO demonstrated how poorly the engine can really become, and not to mention how the weapons sound like cap guns. If they just build from the ground up, and host a beta it would turn out much better, they have the money! As in a previous article, I'll take 30fps with true and epic sound design, massive maps, vehicles, and real tactical destruction.

From what I watched on the MW3 footage it really is more of the same, go here shoot and kill, move on do it again and again. And lets toss in an on-rails chopper, how original.

In the end, I cannot support essentially the same game every year, but if you choose to you go right ahead. I am looking for evolution in a shooter, not ground breaking necessarily but an enhancement. Frostbite 2. Happy gaming is what its all about and I believe Activision is screwing people, hard.

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PAKINIPS
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 4:04:45 AM

There's an awful lot of people that liked to get screwed hard

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556pineapple
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 10:08:40 PM
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I sorta just tune out all of this. I guess I'm not really too interested in either game all that much, but I'm interested in CoD even less. I've already made up my mind that IF I get one, it's going to be Battlefield 3, based on that gameplay footage they released a while back, and the fact that I'm bored to death of the Call of Duty craze. I'll probably rent it first. Until it releases, I'm just not going to pay attention to either.

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DVE2k
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 10:14:22 PM
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Just buy both games end of discussion. You will never get bored, plus if I do get bored with one just go play the other :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 10:23:43 PM
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I'm not buying either game in any case so let them slug it out. I'll always root for CoD's downfall though.

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Claire C
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 12:03:25 AM

Unless you like a specific party, you always got to root for the underdog.

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Underdog15
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 10:06:20 AM

agreed.

;)

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BTNwarrior
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 10:34:13 PM
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Since when is this not a Mexican stand off, cause my money is on resistance 3 being the best FPS this holiday

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sirbob6
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 11:09:20 PM

Agreed!

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Claire C
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 12:02:17 AM
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Four more months till they come out, then another six afterword till the follow-ups are announced. We live in a military fps-controlled world. =>.>=

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MadKatBebop
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 12:10:17 AM
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I only need one fps this holiday season, and that is BF3.

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 12:23:43 AM
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So, now instead of the Sony vs Microsoft console war, we have the EA vs Activision military shooter war? Oh, goody.

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Claire C
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:51:31 AM

No matter who wins,

we lose...

-AVP poster LOL

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Lawless SXE
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 2:12:16 AM

Ha. Y'know, it kinda does make me pine for the old PS3 vs 360 days. The two groups of fanboys seem almost reconciled now...

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Clamedeus
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 8:58:35 AM

Lawless, you should of seen all the 360 fans going crazy on YouTube when people started posting about the PSN Outage. It was crazy, but very annoying.


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atq1993
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:40:27 AM
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it is boring but iv noticed....
why is it always ea talking about activision
the people at activision have never mentioned battlefield first, ea arent making this game for the consumers like me or you they are making it to go to bobby kotick and say look we made a war game too, for this reason i am getting modern warfare 3 and not battlefield because its not just the people who make it its the people who play it too waaah cod campers waaaaah, its just recylced cod dropouts, give it a rest no cod player wants to know about your geeky realistic gun sounds, its not a very good competition... plus the graphics are only good on the pc its just medal of honor on the consoles

i hope call of duty dominates this game

thumbs down if your gay :P

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nihro
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 2:14:11 AM

well said but i like battlefield as well but i hope Call of Duty wins like usual

thumbs down if your gay :P lol

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Lawless SXE
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 2:19:11 AM

I'd give you a thumbs down for using the grammatically incorrect 'your' in lieu of 'you're', but I'm above that. I'd be more likely to do so simply for the inclusion of that last line, but I'm not that spiteful, and I'm not going to give you a thumbs down for your opinion, because we're all entitled to that.

I will, however, put up the argument that the Battlefield series has been around for longer than Call of Duty, so it's clearly not about EA simply wanting to capture CoD's market. Furthermore, DICE have said that they're making the game that they want and not trying to compete with MW3, that is all EA bluster. And really, if you think that CoD is for the players, you're completely delusional. It's for the profit man. Activision pushed Tony Hawk until he fell, they expanded the music genre until it exploded and if they're not careful, the ever increasing popularity of shooters will turn around to bite them on the arse as people look for similar, yet different, experiences and find themselves sated by Deus Ex, Bioshock: Infinite, Resistance 3 and yes, Battlefield 3.
Smiles and Peace.

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Clamedeus
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 9:01:49 AM

I'm rooting for Battlefield, CoD is getting boring and stale very fast. I'm waiting to see what Activision does for MW3 to see if I'll get it. And if I do, it's going to be by bargain bin.

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Underdog15
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 10:11:08 AM

Great. Now you guys won't only get thumbs down for stupid, unintelligent posts, but now gay people will also thumb you down too!

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:48:59 PM

*sigh*

We can do better when we try.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 2:20:47 AM
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Wholeheartedly agree, Ben, and I'll be very thankful to you for keeping this site as clear of those inflammatory articles as is reasonable. I like a good argument every now and again, but if it comes to an FPS explosion fortnightly... I'm going to have issues here.

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:55:09 PM

Big time thumbs up...

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___________
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 3:11:29 AM
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its called PR, and its working quite well because sites like this are taking the bait.
as the saying goes any publicity is good publicity!
im looking forward to BF3 more but only because DICE are one of the few developers out there that actually make games for PC, not games for consoles then port them over to PC.

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AnonWTF
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 5:04:59 AM
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you go boy!

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atq1993
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 7:00:08 AM
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@ Lawless SXE

clearly you have never heard of shorthand

lol i love it when people take so much offence to a comment about a game haha

stupid recycled cod players

if you don't understand shorthand and/or have never recieved a text message?

thumbs down if you're gay!!!

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Underdog15
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 10:13:06 AM

Learn to use the reply button.

P.s. I'm not sure you know what shorthand is....

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Lawless SXE
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:10:51 PM

I know shorthand, I just have a hatred of it. And I never took offence, I just usually don't know when to shut up...

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:50:17 PM

Oh, great, the intolerance special drew into town. Tell you what kiddo, why don't you get on that train and get out of town.

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atq1993
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 7:00:29 AM
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ps: haha you're gay :P

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Underdog15
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 10:16:31 AM

'Twould be far worse to be so insecure that I would use "gay" as some sort of insult.

Tell me... was your father abusive? Perhaps your mother emotionally unavailable or manipulative? Perhaps both?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 10:20:45 AM

nihro and atq: Not sure if you've noticed yet, but this is the wrong community to act like a 12-year-old.

I see adolescent name-calling again and you're both gone.

P.S. atq1993, what you're using isn't "shorthand." Maybe you should look that word up.

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:50:42 PM

It's not shorthand Ben, it's offensive.

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BikerSaint
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 3:24:58 PM

Go back to trolling on your regular kiddie site!

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Deleted User
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 8:21:27 AM
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There are two things that I wish would just go away or at the very least be nothing but an afterthought: Reality T.V. and First Person Shooters. The thing is, would both mediums of T.V. and video gaming be hurt without these cash cows? Is there another genre that can take the place of FPS games?

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:53:59 PM

Oh, I would gladly see the back of both of those. Although, I suspect we are more likely to see a fusion of the two;

Hell's Kitchen of Duty
Big Brother Battlefield
Gears of The Bachelor
Halo : MasterChef
...

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AshT
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 8:32:22 AM
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tired and boring, i'm still looking forward to BF3 though

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tridon
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 9:04:52 AM
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I'm going to buy MW3 just to wrap up the trilogy, but I won't be buying it for full price. CoD4 blew my mind when it came out but the same engine every year is becoming tiresome. I'm a single-player-only type of gamer so after this installment, I'm done with CoD. I couldn't get into W@W and Black Ops was, to me, horribly boring. I'll definitely be buying BF3 day one, though. Everything I've seen of that game has left my jaw wide open from its awe-inspiring awesomeness. One thing is for certain, though; no matter how amazing BF3 looks and no matter whether it plays better or not, it will not top CoD's numbers.

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Nickjcal
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:18:18 PM

it sounds like it's beating COD in pre orders as of now. But come release day that won't be the case :/

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Deathb4Dishonor
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 11:09:52 AM
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Well i'm kinda excited for both games... I guess I expect more outta BF3 bc I like it more than CallOfDuty but as long as MW3 is close to MW2 and not Black Ops i'll enjoy it too( I hope they don't bring back quick scoping either and Last Stand is also being eliminated )... But at the end of the day i'm buying both and i'm pretty sure i'll enjoy them both... Anyways i'll prolly be spending most of my time in Uncharted 3 anyways :-)

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Nickjcal
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:17:03 PM
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Just like the fan wars going on about Uncharted vs Gears. Why can't we just have a super universal console. Then atleast the fabled console war will be over. Stupid fanboys.

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 1:51:31 PM

There's a fan war between fans of games from utterly different genre on different console? What odd dimension do those fans inhabit?

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YoMega
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 2:00:45 PM
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Resistance 3. 'Nuff said.

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StangMan80
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 2:03:35 PM
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BF3 will be the better game, Have you seen what that engine can do? MW3 won't be all that great, still same OLD engine running it. You would think they would of done something about that.
BF BC2 was better then COD BO and BF3 will be better the COD MW3. It just how it is.
Unless COD shows me other wise. I have no faith in them. COD is old. graphics even look dated on there games(BO).

I know when thing, I have already decided a while back that I was getting BF3. I always keep open for COD games but they always disappoint big time and become a HUGE JOKE. So my expectations for MW3 are real low, probably never purchase because of it.

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Zorigo
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 3:07:22 PM
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YES its boring,
i appreciate you adressing that Ben.

Now lets stop talking about it, its not like it needs the publicity. There are more important games to talk about.

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atq1993
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 8:39:19 PM
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no im a man just a man and like all normally straight men i use gay as a natural insult like most of you do, im just giving my opinion that i knew there would be a load of geeky battlefield players taking offence so i improvised thumbs down if you're gay you thumbed me down before seeing this and took offence most likely because you have your hands down your pants over these two games,as for the games graphics in general this "old" Engine is now being used to simulate the end of the world and the "new" (good on pc only)has to be completely remade for a little rubble from a building and realistic but annoyingly quiet sound effects cod has a larger fanbase for a reason and as for looking the same it has been the biggest selling entertainment title on the planet for 3 years (cod 4, mw2 and black ops) and most likely a fourth and the only likely competition is fifa.

and my parents are still together, not that its any of your business, there are too many people giving their opinions as facts these days, people who want to rebel against the big corperation who stole their money that they gave just wierd and backwards its your fault you buy it n dont like it thats your fault and your problem, the only thing that ea is taking offence for is activision selling more games than them and thats quite stupid.

do in my opinion i think call of duty modern warfare 3 will be bigger and better than battlefield because it will have better players and more normal players who dont take it seriously, than battlefield the boring wannabe soldiers game if you sont camp with a sniper like bad comany two get in a vehicle instead like bad comapny two, im giving this opinion based on a statistical fact drivin from the people i know everyone i know have tried a cod game, one person inperticular no friends, no gf EVER, socially challenged, and depressed he has tried cod 4 and his answer why he didnt like it it he didnt like the concept even though it most likely inspired battlefields multiplayer a proper geek but by not liking th concept but if you look on recent games he has no gscore so he just tried the multiplayer for five minutes and got battered and never played on it again that is a crap gamer, and like most battlefield gamers pre ordered cod and got beat a few time online so wwaaaaaaaahhhh im crap and dont like it, plus iv had so many thumbs down from the rebellious gays that you are so a new one

thumbs down if you agree lol :P

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 9:02:15 PM

Whatever. Just don't use your "natural insult" around here.

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Underdog15
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 9:41:39 PM

Born in 1993, barely 18, if that, is hardly a man when you don't use punctuation and cannot organize your thoughts. We've had 14-16 year olds in here who have very organized thoughts and contribute well to the community. I consider them young men. Age, as the number, is not what I look to for positive contributors to the site. Age in the head is what matters. And you, muh boy, are just a child.

As for your parents, I'm just not sure why they didn't consider education a priority... My mom made sure to correct me every time she caught improper use of grammar, and she always made sure I both finished my homework and understood it. If your parents are still together, did they just not care about you enough? Is there an older or younger smart kid they felt was a better investment of their time? Or are you merely a byproduct of your parents combined.... uh... best features.... (Genetic overlap, perhaps... What state are you from again? And in which scarcely populated rural town? lol)

As for your initial paragraph, I think it's funny you felt like you needed to describe why you posted. I knew exactly why the whole time. Your description proves I'm right. It truly was a stupid post, and it was never misunderstood.

Finally, I've enjoyed CoD's SP campaigns well enough. I can take or leave the MP. I only really play when with friends. But I assure you my K/D, win ratio, and points per game are much higher than yours. I don't even need to check.

Not that it matters...

Either way, you need to learn self respect, and especially respect for others.

"Gay as a natural insult".

What?!?! Since when? Kindergarten? I -PROMISE- you... most people here definitely would not use that as an insult. You exist in a whole other dimension, friend.

Last two points: 1) Again... the reply button... please.... 2) What's with your thumbs down obsession? "thumbs down if you agree"... so now even people who agree will thumb you down including the usual group that thinks you're just an idiot.

Anywho... I'm done. I can't believe I gave you the privilege of a response from me. I assure you, you won't get that privilege again.

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Highlander
Monday, July 04, 2011 @ 10:28:48 PM

If your a 'man' then use better vocabulary. Whether you are straight or not has no impact on the use of the word 'gay'. The absolute implication of your opening paragraph is that you are homophobic and as a consequence see the word 'gay' is an insult. By your own words, you see 'gay as a natural insult'. I'm not sure how the word qualifies as a natural insult, it's more revealing about you that you think that way. How incredibly insecure you must be in your own sexuality to use such an insult. Does it re-enforce your macho heterosexuality to call others gay because you dislike their opinion? Perhaps you're so insecure that you fear the color pink? Is wearing a pink shirt considered gay in your oh so manly mature point of view? Pathetic.

Giving your opinion of a game requires no insults to be hurled at people who've yet to comment or on an entire group of people. Giving your opinion of one FPS vs another FPS does not require you to insult the players of the other game. To me they're two sides of the same coin, the same bad penny that keeps turning up. Whether one has a more modern engine than the other is of little concern to me, however I will say that if a game uses the same basic engine that the franchise has used for three iterations, it's using an old engine. tried and tested perhaps, but *old*.

Your entire post is riddled with immature sexual references that cast concepts such as masturbation and homosexuality in entirely negative lights. The thing is, that if you're a 'normally straight man' as you put it, you are almost certainly intimately familiar with one of those concepts, and perhaps under abnormal conditions the other too. Either way, stop it, because I can guarantee you that this community doesn't play that way.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 @ 2:34:36 PM

atq1993

You're a man? I seriously doubt that
Sure could've fooled us with your 3 long rambling sentences spewing random pre-adolescent thoughts of grandeur & homophobia.
And all that without any periods, or punctuation what-so-ever for that matter.

It's a real shame you apparently missed out on all the Romper Room training, because Ms. Connie could've been a real help to you.......hell, even Big Bird could've done your fine lack of education some serious goodness.

Here's a good "Hooked on Phonics" style tip for you: "The 3 R's of ed-shoe-kas-shon" are your friends.



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Wraith
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 @ 12:16:22 AM
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Lets hope that both games turn out to be good, although it appears that a lot of people on this forum are rooting for Battlefield.

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DarKn35s
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 @ 1:21:24 PM
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Its nice to see not everyone is brainwashed by cod now it seems they are now just saleing the name "halo" but thats a different story. i was a die hard cod head until i found out that there was a better fps. in bf i felt more like a solider then i ever did on cod. u can sprit and take more than 6 steps (with out a perk)with out getting tired lol if i get chased into a building and need a way out i can just make one. the destructable environment makes it a better game hands down.

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Crabba
Thursday, July 07, 2011 @ 9:33:26 PM
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I'm not a big FPS fan, but even I'm kind of looking forward to Battlefield 3 after seeing some really awesome-looking in-game footage. Couldn't care less about MW3 though.

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