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Is MGS4 Still One Of The Best Of The Current Generation?

It's always an important question: how well do fantastic games stand up over time?

For the most part, the Metal Gear Solid franchise has produced titles that really do withstand the test of time. Thanks to memorable characters, storylines, and dramatic situations, the MGS games always deliver, and always seem to maintain their appeal over many years. If you ask the fans, they'll say it's frequently great fun to replay older titles, and that includes the "archaic" original.

But gaming just keeps pushing forward at a phenomenal rate, and a lot has happened in the last three years. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves brought interactive entertainment to a new level, and other titles (LittleBigPlanet 2, Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, God of War III, etc.) have continued to push the envelope. It seems like better games keep showing up on a continual basis and by the end of 2011, we'd have to compare MGS4 to Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, Battlefield 3, Assassin's Creed: Revelations, Batman: Arkham City, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and more. So does MGS4 still stand tall in the face of that competition?

Personally, I say it does. Above all else, MGS4 seems like a relatively unique experience, especially with the decline of Japanese-centric games. We won't see its like again until MGS5 shows up...and no, I don't think we can count Metal Gear Solid: Rising, as it's a different sort of MGS. The hardcore fans will back me on that.

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

Tags: mgs4, metal gear solid 4, games industry, guns of the patriots

7/11/2011 9:16:20 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (126 posts)

Highlander
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 9:35:49 PM
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I think MGS4 will always be one of the best games this generation. As will Uncharted (all three games).

As for Japanese games - don't get me started on that again, I might write an essay.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:40:54 PM

I'd read it.

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Highlander
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:47:19 PM

I appreciate that Worlds, only thing is, right now it might be an angry essay.

Note the avatar change. I'll have to work up a new avatar to include Rorona, and perhaps even a catgirl from one of the sillier Anime series with my original lineup.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:38:16 PM

I just started watching Claymore, nothing silly about that :)

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Clamedeus
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:56:23 PM

Highlander. Do you have any recommended anime shows I should watch? I need some suggestions. :p

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:11:10 AM

Depends what you want. I've been sucked into the silly harem comedies of late. I've never been real big on the action anime anyway, so it depends on what you like. There are a few other fans around these here parts as well, so I'm sure there will be some suggestions. What kind of genre/story do you prefer?

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:33:59 AM

I mostly watch stuff like Bleach, Naruto, Getbackers (finishing it) Ghost In The Shell: SAC, Break Blade, InuYasha, Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X). Mostly stuff like that.

But I'm looking to branch out, something that has a good story behind it, I like a bit of comedy ones as well, but it's not high on my list, but it all depends on my mood I guess.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:40:02 AM

I will always recommend Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Black Lagoon, and Big-O

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Mog
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:08:10 AM

I started to watch death note, up to episode 12. Omg, it is just so damn good!

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:31:52 AM

Beebop is fun, Gurren Lagann has it's charm as well. If you are looking for straight up silly with a good dose of fan service find "Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky", but that is in Japanese with Subtitles, you might find it on CrunchyRoll.

Note : My new avatar adds Eris, the central character in "Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky", as well as Rorona from Atelier Rorona.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:33:51 AM

Death note is insane. Might i suggest Tokyo majin, Ga rei,D mann gray and Darker than black. Or if you want something completely out of the box try Mushi-Shi,its like playing flower after a call of duty marathon. If you have netflix all these are available.

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main_event05
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:39:22 AM

@Clam
Go to funimation.com they just made they whole collection available for free streams. Tons of anime to choose from. so just go down the list trying stuff till you hit something you like.

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Mog
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:47:19 AM

Insane as in good or insane as in bad? You better reply the right answer or else.... :) BTW, like the new avatar highlander.

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johnld
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:04:06 AM

If you like those action anime like bleach, naruto, and rurouni kenshin, you could try busou renkin, kekkaishi and fate/stay night

like highlander, i mostly watch harem/comedy/romance type animes because to me they're a lot of fun to watch. story might not play that big of a part but they're just hilarious. some of my favorites are baka to test, the world god only knows(2 seasons), asu no yoichi, love hina, ai yori aoshi(2 seasons), b gata h kei, chobits, to love ru(2 seasons), DearS, denpa onna, ookamisan, dog days, full metal panic, goshuushousama ninomiyakun, hayate no gotoku, infinite stratos, inukami, kore wa zombie desu ka, nyan koi, shuffle!, toaru majutsu no index, toradora, zero no tsukaima(3 seasons). i have a lot more but these are just a few of my favorites. if you want some more just hit my psn with a message. most of my collection play fine on the ps3 and i could probably even tell you where to find them. my psn id is the same here, just let me know you're from psxextreme because i trash empty invites.

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Vitron
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:28:05 AM

@clamadeus

Code Geass


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Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:44:39 AM

Wow, thanks everyone for giving me some suggestions that's a lot. :o

I'll have to watch them later and John I will send you a Friend Request on PS3 later today. 4:40 AM in the morning eastern time and tired was up all night Lol.

I watched a bit of Ghost In The Shell: SAC, and Asobi Ni Ikuyo: Bombshells From The Sky, it's very interesting LOL. I'm liking it so far the art and everything on it is top notch on crunchy roll very impressive.

Well night everyone, I will definitely watch more what you guys mentioned.

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Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 9:14:31 AM

Cowboy Bebop is best! =D

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Teddie9
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:31:39 PM

:p I love how your image just keeps expanding Highlander.

As for anime Clamedeus I recently watched Le Chevalier D'eon. Story's good and the art is fantastic. ( only 24 episodes and the english dub is actually quite good as well)

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:19:12 PM

LOL! thanks, the fun part of making the avatar is every time I add someone, I have to figure out how best to overlay everyone to fit them all in and still keep the recognizable. So far, so good.

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:06:50 PM

@JohnLD,

I was looking at buying the Chobbits box set, how would you rate Chobbits?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:59:07 PM

oh yeah, and the best anime ever made FLCL

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 4:30:40 PM

I haven't watched FLCL in ages, I might have to start now.

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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 5:46:48 PM

@ Highlander

I have a theory as to why the Japanese are failing to generate quality titles.

Obviously I pin the blame on every individual that collectively contributed towards their submission, however Microsoft are responsible for a huge chunk, simply because they released their console too early - rushed to the point of 50 - 30% failure rate upon release as well, just to be over a year's head start of the competition. Typical.

The early release combined with the invasion of PC gaming influenced online [FPS being the flagbearer] caused mass confusion within the Japanese gaming industry, of which were noticing how the western audience absorbed the new method of high definition gaming consisting of only one western console for the first year to bring forth a western influence so well. Really not surprising, however I can only presume Japanese publishers were thinking:

"SHIT, GUYZ, THEY GOT ZE MISSILES, WTF EIH?"

This caused 54% of all Japanese devs & publishers to suddenly think fully catering [i.e. immitating] for the western audience would be a smart idea, 43% to whine & start having an apocalyptic mindset/fit about the Great Japanese Gaming Depression [or demise], whilst the other 3% would still try and stick to their tried & tested roots. The latter has been more successful, imo.

And eeiiiwwww, not Crunchyroll... =P.
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@ Clamedeus

I see your list is probably overloaded already, but for good light comedy, for now I recommend the following:

- Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
- Hayate No Gotoku!
- !!!1!!!!!?!?!
- Shijou Saikyou No Deshi Kenichi

After watching Bebop make sure you watch Samurai Champloo as well. R.I.P. Nujabes

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 7:42:47 PM

I will Indeed DoucheBaguette, thanks for the increasing pile. Lol

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:55:33 PM

Hayate is awesome, there are so many that are...but that one is very good indeed.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 9:36:15 PM
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Yes.

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Godslim
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 5:06:17 AM

couldnt have put it any better

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mastiffchild
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 9:19:30 AM

It's the BEST game this generation and nothing else has come that close to changing my mind since it's release.i love a lot of games but nothing commands my respect more that the herculean task Koj pulled off with MGS4. Masterpiece is underselling his achievement.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 9:37:12 AM

Short. Simple. Truthful.

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Quincho
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 9:41:45 PM
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I does!! I mean, its MGS4. that game its a masterpiece, there are few games out there that can top this one

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bebestorm
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 9:43:35 PM
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Yes!! MGS4 still sits at the top of my list for this generation.

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Clamedeus
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 9:47:10 PM
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<3 MGS4, so I say yes!

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StangMan80
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:02:34 PM
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i'm not sure if Uncharted 3 will top MGS4. yeah, I said it.
I love MGS! I think MGS3 is still in my top 5 easy.
nothing get's better then MGS.

just... I can't find any where to preorder my MGS HD collection. it's not listed any where for some reason. But when I can I'm going to ASP.

Waiting patiently for MGS5.

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sunspider13
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:02:52 PM
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Umm...YES!!! When the music starts playing at the started up screen I still get the shivers.

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sunspider13
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:35:45 PM

*start

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BTNwarrior
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:10:57 PM
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crawling through the microwave is still the most memorable experience I have ever witnessed in a videogame

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main_event05
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:09:12 AM

1st time i ever came close to tearing up cause of a game.

The 1st time I actually did was when....


**SPOILER**

...Big Boss showed up to make peace and died.

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SpikeSpiegel
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:12:05 PM
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A resounding yes is in order! As with all Metal Gear Solid games, they are brilliant from start to finish!

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SoulController
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:13:05 PM
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The bar was set so high by mgs4. 3 years later & we still consider it one of the greatest, if not the greatest game of this generation. Still bummed about that trophy patch

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TheCanadianGuy
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:13:10 PM
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Is MGS4 Still One Of The Best Of The Current Generation?
yes! yes it is the best of the generation. maybe even all time. or at least best game ever on a playstation console.
my personal all time favorite game BTW the fight with liquid at the end when it plays the different music from all snake & liquid battles from previous mgs's is the single greatest moment of gaming i've ever experienced!

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SpikeSpiegel
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:35:31 PM

If I could give a mega sized thumbs to that boss battle, I would ten times over. Everything about that fight was perfect. From the music, as you mentioned, to even the tiny details like Ocelot changing fighting stances for each part, and the voice work overall. An awesome boss battle to say the least.

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TheCanadianGuy
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:26:20 PM

yea man i'm not ashamed to say i got a little chocked up because me & mgs go way back to 98 & hearing the different music & the names on the life bars like "naked snake" & all the others just brought back all the memories over the last 10 years. it was truly something special. something i'll never forget.

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TheIllusiveMan
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:20:33 PM
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No lie, I literally just started a new game on MGS4 and I just turned it off only a couple of minutes ago. Looking back at it, it's still an amazing game in nearly every way. Graphics are still somewhat good, but it's easy to notice the somewhat lower polygon count in places. Especially around knees.

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Highlander
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:24:31 PM

The quality of the visuals in a game is not defined by the polygon count.

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:35:59 PM

Yah, I think MGS4 is still an excellent looking. Great even. =)

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TheIllusiveMan
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:40:40 PM

I never once said or even hinted at that. I was just mentioning that the low polygon count IS noticeable. I always noticed it though I guess. Never bothered me. The games amazing in every way. It's within my personal top 5 games for story (actually it's my #1) and I love all of the Metal Gear series. I own physical copies in some form or another of all the canon games. Trust me, it's my favorite series (followed close by Assassin's Creed).

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sirbob6
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:20:58 PM
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Ummm... that would be a yes.

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Kiryu
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:26:25 PM
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Yes one of the Best but confused the story of the MGS Series.

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main_event05
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:10:41 AM

How so??

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main_event05
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:53:06 PM

why the thumbs down? its an honest question.

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:27:17 PM
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Yup, def. one of the best this gen.

Can't wait for the MGS Collection later this year cause I never got a chance to play MGS3.

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SpikeSpiegel
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:41:27 PM

You'll probably have a hard time stopping once you start MGS3... I remember buying it on launch day and playing it straight through until beating it! I was addicted!

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TheIllusiveMan
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:46:56 PM

Oh crap, I forgot all about that. Between MK DLC, Uncharted 3 beta, and replaying Dragon Age Ultimate and DA2, this somehow slipped my mind.

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Highlander
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:48:24 PM

That collection is on my list - and I'm checking it twice...

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:51:24 PM

How's the bounty hunting, Spike? You need my help? I know you've missed me. Lol! :P

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SpikeSpiegel
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:09:54 PM

Bounty hunting would be good if you'd stop stealing all of the reward money! :P

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:11:42 PM

HEY! Don't get between a girl and her gambling! =D

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Weaverpsu
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:27:29 PM
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Bought the game for ten bucks at Best Buy a couple of months ago and still haven't played it! I know, I know...

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:33:33 PM

FOR SHAME!

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TheCanadianGuy
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:21:05 PM

you might wanna get on that ASAP!

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DjEezzy
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:29:15 PM
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Yeah i have to agree. MGS4 was a super memorable experience for me. I loved it all the way through. Peacewalker was also amazing. Can't wait for MGS5!!!

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556pineapple
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:30:54 PM
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Hmmm, I dunno. Let me thin.. YES!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:43:13 PM
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I tried really hard to get into MGS4 but couldn't do it, thankfully someone was kind enough to take it off my hands for me on ebay but I didn't get much for it.

From what I've played though I'd say it can definitely stand up to the games that are out today. Sadly MGS5 will probably be coming to 360 and may thus fall short.

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:47:51 PM

You didn't really like it? How come?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 10:56:54 PM

I'll bet he can't pinpoint it exactly. It happens sometimes. Like I won't be able to get into Batman: Arkham City or Skyrim and by all rights, I should adore both.

...and I can't explain why I can't like them.

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Claire C
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:04:37 PM

Wow, neither Batman OR!! Skyrim? Well, to be fair I'm not a huge fan of GoW. I have both the collection and #3, but I just don't like that series as much as other people. Can't explain it either cause I see how good they are. Oh well.

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SpikeSpiegel
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:07:40 PM

I hope you're wrong about MGS5 on 360, World. The only solace I can take is that Kojima is one the last Japanese devs who doesn't compromise his vision. I hope he keeps that trait as he continues to produce what I imagine will be stellar games.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:43:45 PM

Ben's right, it's really hard to pin it down. There wasn't anything wrong with it, I'd give it a high score. If I had to pick something I'd say it isn't straight forward enough for me. Or maybe it's just cuz I missed MGS2 and 3. The important thing is I recognize why people like it, but like Assassin's Creed I just can't force myself to be enthralled with the gameplay.

The reason I mentioned 360 for MGS5 is because of that new multiplat engine Koji and Co are working on. Fox or something?

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TheCanadianGuy
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:51:42 PM

@ clair & ben. everyone has their own taste not everyone can like everything personally i didn't really like uncharted 2 (please don't kick me off the site xD) i know it was an amazing epic masterpiece but i just couldn't really get into it i've tryed (beat it 4 times) just not my thing i guess.

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:13:31 AM

If you beat a game 4 times, how can you say you're not into it?

LOL!

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TheCanadianGuy
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:17:26 AM

i guess i just wanted to like it the same way everyone else did so i kept going back trying to love it but it just wasn't there for me

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:28:11 AM

I know the feeling, I've done that with some games before too. Like Ben and Worlds, I know ahead of time which games I am likely to have difficulty liking simply because there is something about the setting, characters or gameplay that I know I won't like.

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tazdood1199
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:25:50 AM

MGS5 comes to the box, it'll have to be on 7 discs.

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Vitron
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 4:39:12 AM

Ha! only seven?

:)



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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:52:28 AM

Well it's all on your personal preference.

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YesterdysRising
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:39:20 PM
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I love MGS4. Definitely one of the best of the generation. Although I still dream of MGS being remade with the MGS4 engine... that would be better than winning the lottery IMO. Although, if I won the lottery, I would just fund it :)

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 5:40:32 AM

Really, I think MGS1 plays fine as it is. Plus after the GC remake it is clear that a remake will just ruin it...

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BikerSaint
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:40:38 PM
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MGS4 is, and should always, be considered a masterpiece for all time.

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gungrave
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 11:45:39 PM
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Yes it does. Other games might come up and do amazing things but they will never top MGS4 but instead join it at the top. The second I saw the game start up with a workout video, I knew I was in for a treat.

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main_event05
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:13:41 AM

the other programs are cool too. I like the cooking show


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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:11:47 AM
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MGS4 is still by far one of the best games out there. The thing that I want to happen is portable ops and peace walker on the PS3/bluray + MGS1 and MGS3.

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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:45:55 AM
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It IS the best game (and series for that matter) in the history of video games.

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ShiorixZetsu
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:25:50 AM
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I agree!! MGS4 was one of the best games ever made. My favorite part of the game had to be the ending boss fight. Totally epic

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karneli lll
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:37:49 AM
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I loved Mgs 4 but it felt lonely, only 2 people to talk to snake.

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sirbob6
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:51:59 PM

I know! I surfed every single channel for about an hour and was so disappointed that there was no one else.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:03:50 AM
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Definitely. Just because more games are starting to reach its calibre, doesn't lessen the quality any. In fact, it only serves to make it more impressive, given its taken three years for other games to begin to be regarded in the same light.

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Fabi
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:30:55 AM
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I still believe that first act stands among the greatest video game levels ever. Possibly my favorite 2-3 hours of gaming.

Sadly, none of the chapters after were nearly as good.

Still a great game though.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:08:58 AM
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It's an interesting debate, The thing with MGS4 is that i adored it on my first playthrough, the story was obviously sensational and all the acts were fresh and fun to play. However, I find it very difficult to enjoy replaying MGS4.

I don't believe it is due to the mass ammount of story clips, as I said I enjoy the story and watching them. it's the gameplay itself. I just don't feel like it flows very well from chapter to chapter. I enjoy playing chapter 1 and most of chapter 2, I dont like the Drebin van sqeuence near the end.

Chapter 3 is fun the 1st time but gosh is it awful to replay. It feels very different to how a MGS game should play.

Chapter 4... No complaints what so ever. The best chapter.

Chapter 5, Its the structure once again, you have the normal section at first, then a boss, then you have the crawling section, and then another boss....Actually thinking back i liked all of this as well...

I think I just wanted more sections in the game like chapter one ,where you have more control over snake.

On problem I do have is the bosses, while the battles were fun to play, I did not like the characters at all.You were suddenly thrown into a fight with characters which you just knew nothing about and then Drebin would just flood you with a backstory after you defeated them. it felt like they had no involvement in the plot unlike Olga from MGS2, The Cobra unit from MGS3 were close to the boss so i connected with them more.

Overall though MGS4 is one of the titles which I got a PS3 for and I was not dissapointed, have games gone further now, maybe so. but MGS4 roots are deep within a series which certainly has not been surpassed this generation, many others like Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Tekken have gone off the rails this gen, MGS4 keeps the series standing strong. i just hope MGS5 never comes as it is now over.

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Excelsior1
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 5:40:42 AM

@ultimadream

i agree with just about everything you said...except for the last part. i want a mgs5, and think it's pretty crazy not to want another installment. mgs5 would not have to ruin the ending of mgs4.

i would probably rate mgs4 as the third best entry. i still think the first game was the best. mgs3 would be second.

the only flaws in mgs4 are there isn't a whole lot of game there, and the way it handles installs you really notice it when you replay the game. you can get through the game pretty fast. a couple of more chapters would have helped.

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Fabi
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:36:54 PM

Same here, I agree with most of what you say.

Except, I personally think Act 1 is gaming at it's finest, none of the other chapters reached that balance of stealth, action and story the same way. Plus the newness of the game and how real being in the middle of that war felt is just unparalleled.

And Act 3 was terrible, I've said it a million times, it made MGS4 unplayable a second time. There was NO WAY I was doing those boring stealth segments again. And not even just that, graphically I hated it too. I guess the last part of the act was good though.

And I agree with you about the bosses. I also didn't like how every single one was the same way after you defeated them.

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Vitron
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:34:10 AM
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Yes

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Jessica12
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:44:43 AM
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TBH I started my gaming on PS3 and the first game i bought was MGS4, just to see what the fuzz is all about, many people told that u will not like it if u haven't played the previous installment. But i am glad to say that was not at all the case i got the grip with MGS4, I loved it, and got fairly versed with the entire story through MGS4. So in my books this game is right among thieves :)

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___________
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:53:07 AM
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no.
its THE best game released this generation!
well, behind heavy rain of course.
one of the VERY few games i cant pick faults with, and one of the very few, if not only game released this gen that truly deserves a perfect 10!

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Vitron
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 4:34:24 AM

Wow... :)For once I agree with you.


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Wissam
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 5:06:39 AM
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That's is why we need MGS5.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 5:38:25 AM

No, Metal Gear is over, It's cheeky enough we're getting Rising. And we cant have ANOTHER story on big boss. A story after MGS4 is also out of the question, there is nothing plausible which can be done with the series, it's over.

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Excelsior1
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 6:00:23 AM

i think you are underestimating mr. kojima there my friend. i'm sure he could pull it off.

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mk ultra
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 8:31:46 AM

Theres always the possibility of another prequel.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 9:46:01 AM

Seriously, would you really want ANOTHER prequel, we've already had 3! I love MG, hence why I don't want it to end on a flop like Portable Ops... luckily Peace Walker made up for that one. Remember Portable Ops was treated as a canon title until PW cme along.You can say of yes we could have a sequel after MGS4 with Raiden, but it's just milking it. MGS4 was a satisfing conclusion and thats what I want it to stay, a conclusion.

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Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:28:37 AM

A cloned Solid Snake a few after MGS4, where he begins an all new adventure...

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mk ultra
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:13:30 AM

Yes! more Big Boss clones, I'd go for that. Seriously though Ultima makes some valid points. I think it's time to let Solid Snake rest and if they do keep making entries have them be different characters.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:43:13 AM

Seriously what on earth would you want a domestic simulator with Akiba and Meryl...?

There is no characters left to explore, sure Raiden can have another tragedy, but I think it would be unfair, he deserves his peace now. Another clone... I just dont see the relevence... The MG saga from MGS 3 - MGS4 was all been patched up, there really is nothing left.

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GustaveXIII
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 6:52:28 AM
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yes the game was ahead of its time and its still is.

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SolidFantasy
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 7:01:12 AM
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YES! MGS4 will always be a classic of this gen. I can't believe it's really a question. Even IGN gave it a perfect 10! Kojima doesn't F&%$@ around when he wants a AAA game. How many other games out there have almost eight hours of cutscenes?

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slugga_status
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 7:54:01 AM
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MGS4 is still top 3 of this generation easy. Not just b/c I'm a die hard of the entire MGS series. It's b/c I've yet came across a game that did what MGS4 did. From the cut scenes to the game play. The story tied up several loose ends. There's still games released to this day that can't stack up to it graphically. To me..the Metal Gear games really set the bar on consoles each generation

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mk ultra
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 8:26:33 AM
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Yes it will always be one of the best this generation. Just as MGS 2 & 3 and MGS are still some of the best of their generation.

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Monkey4aHead
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:47:49 AM
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No. It was boring, self absorbed tripe. Very little gameplay between stupidly long and tedious cutscenes. When you did eventually get to play, the controls sucked sweaty donkey bollocks.

Baa baa me likes Japanese baa baa. How predictable...

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mk ultra
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:19:41 AM

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?

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Excelsior1
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:20:12 AM

i think you are being a little harsh, but i do agree that it does suffer from little actual gamelay. a couple more chapters would have helped a lot. the controls were not that bad, though in my opinion.

the last comment baa baa me like japanese...i don't know exactly what you mean by that but somehow it sounds offensive.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:33:14 PM

There was nothing wrong with the controls at all actually. But it sounds to me like you have a short attention span. O well.

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Teddie9
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:38:42 PM

Why are you still on this site? The only reason you'd find the cutscenes boring and tedious is if you didn't care for the story of mgs as a whole - meaning you never played 1-3. In other words what are you doing with your life if you consider yourself a gamer?

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 2:08:10 PM

Sounds like the poster here is something of a xenophobe. His loss.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:02:23 PM

Considering this same moron showed up before just to bash Sony and insult everyone here, I'm pretty sure we can just file him under the "typical Internet fanboy loser" category and ignore his posts.

Oh, and I can ban him.

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Edito
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:16:10 AM
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MGS Will always be in the heart of the fans no matter the time the age or anything else that's the power of games made with soul they last forever...

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Teddie9
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 12:33:51 PM
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yesh

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:03:02 PM
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I just bought the game today, together with Heavenly Sword in a second used game half price action at my local retailer, I have yet to start either game, but from what I've heard on here I won't be disappointed by either.
Got both for 20 bucks

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tlpn99
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 1:16:00 PM
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I love the entire MGS series, nothing to me beats it ever. It was the first game that got me onto the PS1. I was told about it by my friend in America via ICQ he left me a message on it one day saying when this game comes out in the UK you have to buy it. Metal Gear Solid Tactical Espionage Action. I was like that's hell of a title, so looked into the game not looked back since.

Ok other games have come out that are almost as good imo likes of Uncharted 1 and 2 and soon to be 3, Infamous 1 and 2, God Of War series and Killzone series. For me all time fave game is MGS series.

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tridon
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 3:37:14 PM
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MGS 4 is still my favourite game this generation. The Uncharted's are awesome and God of War III kicked ass, but neither Drake or Kratos can put a candle to Solid Snake.

The game is absolutely epic in every sense; the music, gameplay, story, acting... hell, the fourth chapter is freakin' Shadow Moses! (sorry if that spoiled anything for anyone)

Besides Mortal Kombat, MGS is the only other gaming series I've ever been obsessed with. Ever since I bought the first MGS on December 27th, 2008 (I remember the date because I was mad I didn't get it for Christmas and I had to buy it immediately afterwards), Snake's been my man.

I mean, I own a GameCube only for The Twin Snakes (and I confess, Animal Crossing)! I own the first MGS four times; the original, Twin Snakes, the trilogy boxed set on the PS2 and the PS3 digital copy.

So to clarify, yes, MGS4 is still THE best this generation. I honestly don't think anything will take its spot besides the eventual MGS5 (or The Last Guardian). Oh, and I completely agree with you, Ben; Rising is not part of the main MGS series. It'll probably be fun but without Kojima on board as director or Snake featured at all, I doubt it'll blow me away.

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afisher14
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 1:18:11 PM

actually, from what i understand... Rising takes place between MGS2 and MGS4. It tells about what happened to Raiden and how he became a full-fledged Bad Ass...and a cyborg

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CoolBLKguy
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 4:06:46 PM
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There was a few times this gen I've played a game and said, "OMG I THINK THIS IS BETTER THAN MGS4!!!" Then after beating it and reflecting on my experience with MGS4 I always say, "Naw, MGS4 is still better." This has happened with Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3. The only competition MGS4 has is MGS, MGS2 and MGS3. I'm biased though because MGS is my favorite series ever.

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GuyverLT
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:25:11 PM
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MGS4 can hold it's own against any game that's out right now.


PS: I'm still looking forward to Rising, although I know some of you have your doubt just because it's on the 360 which really it's a real reason to doubt it's not gonna be great game.

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Twistedfloyd
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:03:04 PM
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MGS4 is still the class of this generation to me with the only thing that can touch it being Uncharted 2 thus far and Heavy Rain being in third place.

MGS4 offers such a gripping experience from incredible and diverse game play ranging from MGS sneaking to action to emotional game play (the microwave and Liquid Vs. Snake fight).

It also gives you a choice of how to play. I hate the Drebin Points system so I don't really use it and play it as traditional Metal Gear game, but I love having that option to blast through everything (which I sometimes do), but having that choice is great.

It also offers a fantastic cinematic experience. There are a few plot holes, but overall the experience makes up for that. It is so emotionally powerful and incredibly well conceived and executed from a filmmaking stand point and enhances the game play as well.

Snake is presented in such an amazing way and undergoes such a powerful arc in this game as well.

Nothing is as cinematically well done or involves you emotionally like this except for Heavy Rain, and MGS4 unlike so many games this generation, is throughly consistent with amazing twists and turns. It also has a GREAT ending that brings the whole saga together.

Hideo Kojima puts Hollywood to shame with this game. Very few people these days (except for Scorsese, Nolan, Abrams, Speilberg, Fincher, Inarritu, Cuaron and some others) can even come close to executing with such precision and skill.

Honestly film as a whole is still on a level above gaming in the storytelling department, but people like Kojima, David Cage and Amy Hennig are getting games ever closer to eclipsing it.

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JackDillinger89
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 11:14:22 PM
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"MGS4 is still one of the best of the current generation" there i fixed your headline ben :)

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patv3dgamer
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 12:37:51 PM
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Why are you guys discussing anime?
MGS4 will remain at the top of best PS3 games this generation. Thus far there has not been a single game, including Uncharted 2, that has such an epic story. Of coarse I think the online for Uncharted was definitely better than MGS4. You can't beat how amazing the campaign really was in MGS4, both in story and game play.

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BigBoss4ever
Friday, July 15, 2011 @ 7:47:52 PM
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said many times, MGS series is the greatest story ever told in video gaming, with regard to its realism, emotions, perfection... each episode is one piece of the puzzle that intertwined together to form the most sophisticated and inter-linked story in video game history, period.

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Gamer46
Friday, July 15, 2011 @ 7:59:52 PM
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MGS 4 was my favorite game for the current home consoles when it first released and I'd say it's still easily a top 5. Still one of the most cinematic experiences this gen and the crazy cutscenes are a huge part of its appeal as is the still very well done gameplay. That said, I don't think it's the best MGS on any system this generation. I actually prefer Peace Walker which may be my favorite game of the last 5 or so years.

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