Thankfully, Gamers Over A Certain Age Are Still "Weird"
In so many ways, it's a relief. Bear with me here.
The News:
NBC's Today Show welcomed TV personality Donny Deutsch in a segment entitled, "The Other View: Getting A Guy's Perspective On Love." If you didn't know, Deutsch is the host of the relationship show, "The Big Idea," where various advice is given on topics that relate to the social lives of men and women. At one point, Deutsch was asked the quesetion: "Is it normal for men to play games in their 40s?"
He replied- "When you're 30, there should be something more on your mind than video games, that's it." The hosts had a laugh at that and simply called any gamer over a certain age "weird."
The Opinion:
I could say the average age of a gamer in this country is 37 years of age and rising. I could say that according to those "in the know," video games are just as mainstream as any other entertainment industry. I could say that in my experience, gamers are by far the most intelligent of all fan groups based around entertainment (with the exception of readers).
But in truth, I'm happy to hear that the media hasn't caught up and in fact, hasn't grown up, either. I'm happy to hear it because as far as I can tell, none of these people are qualified to do anything but smile pretty for the cameras. They're perfectly willing to speak about any topic, regardless of their knowledge on the matter. All this being the case, why should we care what these talking heads say? Why does it even matter?
Over the years, I've found that it's vastly preferable to be in the minority; to be "weird." All the "weird" kids got As. All the "weird" people created some of the finest pieces of art the world has ever known. All the "weird" people went to MIT and Harvard. ...all the "weird" people are running the world. And they know that the masses who call them "weird" are...well, not very bright.
Tags: game news, gamers, gaming industry, today show
7/12/2011 8:31:31 PM Ben Dutka
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 9:53:18 PM
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While I think the gaming industry still has a lot of growing up to do, I'd rather be a gamer weirdo than any other kind. Plenty of people think I'm pretty out there and I'm okay with breaking the mold, being non conformist and everything. Yeah I play games, I'm also an avid reader, writer, and am heavy into politics.
Some day gamers will be running the media and the government so the ignorant better watch out.
Jawknee
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:47:16 PM
shadowscorpio
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:57:55 PM
cLoudou
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:27:44 PM
Danny007
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 10:55:22 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 12:47:06 PM
Danny007
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:04:45 PM
Cesar_ser_4
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 9:55:53 PM
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Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:54:12 PM
Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:17:45 PM
iwillbetheone
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 3:07:38 AM
Kevin555
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:05:02 PM
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I've got five years until i'm weird then & by then i will be looking for a new apartment with a good basement to be weird in to go along with my pleasure dungeon.
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:24:00 PM
ace_boon_coon
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 3:17:31 PM
Jed
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 4:44:59 PM
Temjin001
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:07:33 PM
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I honestly don't know. I don't actually ever watch broadcast or cable TV. Serious. I don't.
But if I did, I wouldn't go to the TV to get my news. That's seriously an out of date and slow way to get it. If some bone heads are on there making fun of gamers then they're basically just catering to the audience they know who's watching.
Reality and their bubble are two different realms of existence. ah, Plato would be proud =p
Fabi
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:13:40 PM
And that makes me weird in that a lot of people usually only like and know about a certain type of thing that kinda defines who they are.
Sorta like... if you're into terrible rap, you're also going to like football, crappy shows on MTV and Vh1, you're also going to dress like everyone on those shows and you're not gonna know the first thing about what video games really are.
But it can also go bad the other way. I know a few people who ONLY know and care about video games, movies and anime. And aren't necessarily making good art, good music, or inventing cool stuff that's gonna make them money. They all have crappy jobs, no social life and no women due to their gaming habits. And well, that's as bad or worse than the MTV brain dead zombie with a huge chain around his neck.
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Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:18:35 PM
Jawknee
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:36:16 PM
I mean I know some nerds that fit the stereotype perfectly. Most just happen to be Xbots. XD
Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:13:41 PM
Clamedeus
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:33:01 PM
I wear clothing that I like, I don't care about clothing trends never have.
But a lot of people I first meet don't even know I play games, I go to friends houses to watch football games (USA football of course) and support the team, go to restaurants normal stuff, you really wouldn't know until I told you. :p
But most of all I don't really care what others think of me around my circle, if you do. It'll eventually make you go insane trying to make everything perfect and constantly being worried about what others think. My golden rule, respect me I respect you and we have nothing to worry about.
coverton341
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 1:48:26 PM
When I think of the "typical gaming nerd" I still envision what you described, but for the life of me I can't think of one gamer I know that fits the description.
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:26:18 PM
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StevieRV
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:31:06 PM
Fabi
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:25:55 PM
It blows my mind how anyone could call themselves a gamer and not experience MGS4, Killzone, Uncharted, Infamous and LBP.
I know there are more titles, but I would say to really say you experienced this generation, you would have to play those titles. There is nothing like them on the X-Box.
iwillbetheone
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 3:12:15 AM
Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 3:42:36 AM
I'll need to write out a long list on paper if I want to list all the great titles on PS3, AND that's not including sequels, eg. LBP 2, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, etc.
Ahhhh, what the hell, I got time to kill:
- MGS4
- Uncharted 2
- God of War 3
- Heavy Rain
- Gran Turismo 5
- Littlebig Planet
- Motorstorm Pacific Rift
- Ratchet and Clank: A Crack In Time
- Sly Racoon: Thieves In Time
- Heavenly Sword
- Killzone 2
- Resistance 2
- MLB The Show
- Modnation Racers
- Infamous
- SOCOM 4: US Navy Seals
- White Knight Chronicles
- Valkyria Chronicles
- Demon's Souls
- ICO / Shadow of the Colossus Collection
- The Last Guardian
- Twisted Metal
- Dust 514
- Starhawk
- Yakuza 3
- Singstar
- Buzz
Okay, 360 has Dance Central, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown, DOA 4, Lips, Lost Odyssey, Too Human and Viva Pinata, on top of the big 5 I mentioned above. Considering how generous I am with that list, it still pales in comparison to PS3's exclusives.
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iwillbetheone
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 4:00:27 AM
Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 7:59:56 AM
I got both systems, and the Wii, and a pretty kickass PC too.
Mostly use the 360 for Kinect games with family and friends gatherings, or for fitness games when I don't feel like going to the gym that night. Dance Central and Your Shape Fitness Evolved are my 2 favourites.
Also use the 360 to play online with friends, games like Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption (had to swap my PS3 version for 360 just to play with friends), Gears 2 and Fable 2 which is one of my favourites. Since I got GT5, I skipped on Forza 3.
Am very much looking forward to Gears 3 and Halo Anniversary, since I never actually played the first Halo when it released. Never got caught in the Halo craze.
Dance Central 2 is my most anticipated game next to Gears 3 though. As my name implies, love the dancing stuff, and Dance Central is the real deal. If it did come to PS3, I'd probably prefer the Kinect version anyway since it actually measures your body position and movement and doesn't require you to hold anything to play. Only example I can think of where the Kinect excels compared to Move. Move is still better for shooters and hardcore stuff though. :)
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Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:34:56 PM
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Tell you what though, when I was 18, video games were not top of the list, and to be honest they still aren't. But I do know that when I was younger, and um....lets say pursuing the objects of my intent...video games came a distant third, fourth or even fifth place. Now I'm a bit more settled and the child is in his teens, I actually find gaming has a slightly greater priority than it did all those years ago. So perhaps, people in their 40's have more, not less time to game, and more, not less reason to do it? Which would make it, let me see now, oh, yes - *less* weird than people in their youthful prime wasting their hours tickling a controller when they could be tickling a member of their chosen gender.
Jawknee
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:40:09 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:52:25 PM
Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:26:40 PM
Simcoe
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 10:45:33 AM
Underdog15
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:42:27 PM
I've always been a gamer, but now that I'm older, married, a kid on the way, and own a house, I'm through dicking around my weekends and evenings. I work now, and like enjoying my own hard-earned property. And I'm not even 30 yet.
Oh, and last year, in my unfinished basement, I built a man cave with surround sound and HDTV with my own two bare hands (and tools, of course. :p) My uncle also has a man-cave. His is sound proof and has a full HD projector! He also has theatre seating with huge recliners... each with it's own arm-rest refridgerator and cup holder. And he's a wealthy cardiologist in his 40's. He usually just watches movies, but he also has a PS3.
If that makes us weird, then so be it. lol. We're the ones with the best lives. Whatever these people want to say to make them feel better about themselves... fine by me. I don't need the world to recognize their wrong. Take it with a grain of salt, and it's quite humorous!
Highlander
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 10:23:50 AM
The funny thing about the perception of gamers as weird and the way that the industry acts is that in my experience if is the very gamers being called weird that play the most spend the most on hardware and spend the most on games. we're the ones that can afford the HDTVs and 3DTVs and all the rest because as we get older our disposable income get's better and we settle down into our lives, no longer running around like headless chickens trying to climb the career ladder over the shoulders of others. And as our children age, we have more, not less time because - quite simply - our kids want to do their own thing more, leaving our time to ourselves.
So the average age of gamers is 37, I'd love to see how that changes if you weight the average by the amount of time spent gaming, or the money spent on the hardware/software. I bet it would be an even higher average age of gamer then. The bit I don't understand though is that the gaming industry is not catering to the people who are in reality their core audience. Judging by their output and attitude, they still imagine that the core audience is 18-30. When in fact the average age of a gamer is already 37, and increasing. Seems to me that they are effectively failing to properly serve their core audience.
Cravit8
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 10:55:13 AM
At the same time, compare my brother would wants to ask his wife to let him spend an ENTIRE day on a boat fishing. The general public has NO idea how time-consuming hobbies like hunting and fishing are, although I think both those get made fun of too, but maybe not as much.
I think the "weird" sentiment gets attached to anything that seems addictive. But even though immersion can be addicting, one can actually stop, put down the controller and tend to something...sure can't say the same when you're out on a fishing boat 40 miles out with your hand in the guts of a grouper.
BikerSaint
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:54:10 PM
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At least with my Netflix, I can watch up to 90 movies a month if I so do desire for $8.
I'm 58 and as for weird, I don't think I am, but just being a biker I guess the mainstream sheep might call me that(behind my back of course.
But I doubt anyone of them would also think that I'm a huge gaming collector too, with 36 systems & handheld's in my collection so far (just picked up a mint metallic white PSP Go today for $50) plus 2,112 games, and counting.
Anyway, who cares what anyone thinks.
Like my grandma used to say..."Eff em all if they can't handle it"
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:55:28 PM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:27:59 PM
Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:32:12 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:50:15 PM
BikerSaint
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 12:59:56 AM
Thanks Claire & World,
Well damn if that isn't a hell of a price increase. I was figuring around $10.
But I haven't heard a word about any increase from Netflix as of yet.
And since I only stream their movies & don't bother getting any DVD's or Bluray's sent, I'm hoping that will be a bit cheaper.
But if not, I'll cancel them altogether & just go with Sony's free movie site "Crackle" that I can log into right from the PS3's browser.
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 1:15:27 AM
Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 4:30:50 AM
The movie quality in Netflix is bad as is. I mean c'mon.... They have Fred The Movie in HD & 5.1 but they dont have something interesting like Kick-Ass in HD and 5.1 just SD.
Plus the movies are all from the 90's. Sorry guys but I was born in the digital age where movies like Transformers with all the "peh peh" interest me more than the old 90's movies. With some exeptions of course cuz I also like Saving Private Ryan :D
Well, looks like i'll be using the red box
Im just saying, for 18$ a month we should get better quality and a better movie library. Also I find it hard to navigate, well they have a "Comedy" and only 75 movies for that section, the should have it more complex & have all movies in the comedy section in organized sections.
Lets say im looking for a a scary comedy, bingo!!! Scary Movie!
Last edited by Killa Tequilla on 7/13/2011 4:39:33 AM
jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 11:34:06 AM
bigrailer19
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 11:48:22 AM
Netflix is raising the price but in doing so are separating instant streaming and unlimited dvd's into two packages. Instant streaming will still Eemian the same price the unlimited DVD rental is what is being raised in price. So if you combine the two the price will indeed be higher than what you pay now. It's effect for existing customers on sept. 1, 2011.
Here's the email I got from netflix regarding my plan:
We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.
Your current $14.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:
   Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
   Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 2 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $11.99 a month
Your price for getting both of these plans will be $19.98 a month ($7.99 + $11.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.
These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.
bigrailer19
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 12:04:29 PM
Sorry bout the double reply my iPhone messed up before I was done with my last post.
BikerSaint
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 12:37:41 PM
bigrailer19
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 2:09:09 PM
Jawknee
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 2:30:31 PM
Underdog15
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:43:49 PM
bigrailer19
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:55:16 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 10:54:55 PM
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FM23
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 4:31:32 AM
Highlander
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:04:42 PM
tes37
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:21:01 PM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:29:21 PM
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Claire C
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 11:33:23 PM
BikerSaint
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 1:05:05 AM
Jawknee
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 1:11:22 AM
Claire C
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 1:20:55 AM
___________
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 4:16:13 AM
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FM23
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 4:29:43 AM
BlinkBoy
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:18:24 AM
___________
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RadioHeader
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:29:49 AM
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Snaaaake
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 7:11:38 AM
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Recently, my cousin just broke up with her boyfriend, now breaking up isn't something rare but it's WEIRD when a couple months ago they were one of the most loving couple I've ever seen.
So I ask my aunt aka her mom what happened, she told me he beat her quite a few times, yeah, think Chris Brown and Rihanna. I literally went WTF when she told me that.
I asked her how can that be? She told me it's because he's been playing some violent video games lately, daily and regularly.
I never knew I'd actually have this happen to people close to me.
But for some part I'm to blame because I was the one who took him into the world of console gaming.
2 months ago before I recommended a PS3 and 360 to him, he was a PC gamer and he love DOTA and Starcraft 2 the most.
I don't blame myself but I think it's partially my fault.
Kevin555
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 8:15:38 AM
But you shouldn't feel blame because you got him into the hobby. If violent games makes him violence towards individuals then he has a serious personal problem. Games are still not to blame imo, it's the minds that play them.
Anyhow, i hope events improve for the ones you know friend.
slugga_status
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 9:16:52 AM
Summoner
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 7:21:46 AM
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It's unacceptable to hear complaints about videogamers, when there is people who watch the Big Brother or such idiotic programs. In general, i also consider the interaction with videogames, much more stimulating for the brain than just staring at a screen.. maybe its just me.
A lot of people consider videogamers not serious people.. like the rest of the things in our lives isn't a joke.. Hell, there is people who play with their own and other people's lives, like they think that everything is a big game. There's people who have babies just for fun..
Then there are those who take themselves too seriously to make themselves enjoy playing videogames, they think games are for the kids..
If being different than that means being "weird", then i can say I totally am Weird, and enjoy being that way
Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 8:04:40 AM
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And seeing these young'ns spend all their money on booze and possibly drugs, well... my conscience is much cleaner and I feel morally superior playing my games after a hard day's work. So I'm weird, that just makes me awesome to a different crowd!!! :P
Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 8:07:49 AM
Gamers get to do that, but they also can play heroes who save the world, go on grand adventures or explore creative and imaginative universes with plenty to explore.
Makes it feel like non-gamers are missing out on something special. I know I feel special. :D
Clamedeus
Friday, July 15, 2011 @ 12:01:22 AM
TheOldOne
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 8:57:51 AM
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I look at people of my age (35-40 years old) and I think like less than 10% of them are gamers. Probably the wired population (with internet, cellphone, etc) in a decade or two will have a much higher gamer community (above 35% of them being gamers) at the same age range I am now.
slugga_status
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 9:42:46 AM
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People love to judge what they don't understand
tazdood1199
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 10:10:56 AM
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CanadianGuy420
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 10:19:08 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 11:36:41 AM
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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 11:37:50 AM
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Oh well, I guess we'll have to put up with it. It's not like anyone actually takes anything the media say to heart, right?
CanadianGuy420
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 12:34:21 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 3:34:32 PM
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But things have changed and I laugh now because they're so far out of it, they embarrassed themselves on national TV. And guaranteed they know it by now.
Underdog15
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 5:45:48 PM
stgclawson
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 12:09:15 PM
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What I don't get is it's just another hobby - like reading, watching TV or movies, listening to music, etc. Why when you turn 30 it's okay to sit and watch TV, but it's not okay to play a video game. That just doesn't make sense to me!!
Now, I do believe that as you age, you should be playing video games less since you should have more important things in your life and you probably have a family and a job - so yes, it shouldn't be as excessive, obsessive or important as when you were younger, but I don't see any reason why you can't still play video games as you age!!
I've been playing since Atari (my dad worked for Motorola who made all the game chips and he got them all for free) and I haven't stopped having interest in gaming! Obviously I play less than I did when I was younger and I have more important things in my life like being a mom and wife, but I still play video games and I don't see anything wrong with having a hobby of playing video games - at any age!! I'm not stopping anytime soon! In fact - I see myself playing way in the future when I'm old and gray. I'll be playing with my grand kids!
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CanadianGuy420
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 3:29:53 PM
catdr
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 12:15:01 PM
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PS3_Mom
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 1:05:59 PM
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Mounce
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 2:31:18 PM
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Ignorance to knowing the trend of gaming and how mainstream it is, and the ignorance of the unknown, both are related, but meddle in whether or not said-person or collectively the 'People' of certain areas, display hatred, or display it being 'Weird' when they couldn't be any further of the truth. Saying Ignorance is good, isn't good in my opinion, Ben :/ Less acceptance just means less 'Casual morons' that we have to deal with in-game and the growing trend of 'Kinect Bullshit' in a way, but never 100% to kill off what we want.
Spanky
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 6:53:15 PM
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I'm uber weird and proud of it! Mid-40s, married, 3 kids, yadda yadda. I "reward" myself with a few hours of PS3 almost every night after my work day is finished. I've been a "gamer" since my dad bought a newfangled "vidya" game called pong in the mid 70s. Little did he know what he started! >;)
If the crazy talking head, lefty, libs in the media think I'm weird then I'm doing something right! ;)

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