Why Square Enix Will Do A Final Fantasy HD Collection
See Full ImageGod of War. Prince of Persia. Splinter Cell. ICO and Shadow of the Colossus. Tomb Raider. Metal Gear Solid. Zone of the Enders. High-definition collections of the latter two are yet to come, but we've already seen the others. And there are individual PS2 titles that have enjoyed new life in the HD world, like Beyond Good & Evil.
We've also recently heard that Square Enix is currently looking into HD technology testing. When you combine this with the enduring fans who maintain that a Final Fantasy VII remake would be the second coming, you've got a strong case for a Final Fantasy HD Collection. Of course, if it does happen, it may not involve the PS1 classics. Konami has said they couldn't include the original MGS in that MGS Collection for various technical reasons; it's why we're getting MGS2 and MGS3. For an HD remake, it really needs to be a PS2 game, or so it seems. But hey, there are several titles that are eligible.
Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, and Final Fantasy XII could receive the high-def overhaul (FFXI seems out of the realm of possibility, but does anyone really care?), and that's good enough for the fans. At least, for now. Above all else, Square Enix could use a boost, and these collections don't exist for no reason; they do help turn a profit, even if it's a relatively small one. Besides, I think - I think - Square Enix finally understands that some fan service is in order to keep their fans. ...some of those fans feel like they're suffering, ya know. Just give 'em a collection.
Tags: final fantasy, ff remakes, final fantasy hd, ffvii remake
7/20/2011 9:07:50 PM Ben Dutka
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 9:48:45 PM
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Square fans are mostly Playstation fans, so I do not understand why they keep releasing spin-off games on Wii and DS when all the fans want is FF Versus XIII and Kingdom Hearts 3 on PS3, EXCLUSIVE to PS3!!!
With such fan demand, why would it be so hard to make a FF VII remake on PS3? Square Enix say it'd be too much work, but I reckon a western developer could whip it up in 2 and a half years with a big enough budget. These Japanese developers have great artistic talent, they just need help from western developers on the technical side of things, help speed things up.
In the time FF Versus XIII has been in development, Bioware has released 3 Mass Effects, 2 Dragon Ages and a Star Wars MMO. To me, Square Enix has problems.
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TheAgingHipster
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 8:21:15 AM
Of course, they'd make a killing on an FFVII remake, so the budget concerns still make no sense....
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shadowscorpio
Friday, July 22, 2011 @ 1:17:57 AM
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Qwarktast1c
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 9:51:02 PM
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ratchet collection
jak collection
and onimusha collection
thats my wish list.
@ Ben
you're right about FF XI
i know a lot of people love it, but i think that a majority of FF fans still prefer single player experiences, with classic rpg elements
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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 9:59:26 PM
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Claire C
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:15:17 PM
Grand Theft Auto Collection
Persona Collection
Resident Evil Collection (4, Code Veronica X)
Kindom Hearts Collection
Fatal Frame Collection
Devil May Cry Collection (alrdy confirmed?)
Dark Cloud Collection + Rogue Galaxy
Okami + Dragon Quest VIII Collection (Please?)
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 9:54:32 PM
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I think SE has to do this because I think they have to do whatever is in their power to try to recoup some of the major losses they accrued by screwing the pooch with FFXIII and Last Remnant. It would probably make plenty more than it cost to redo, I know I would buy all 3 of them.
Metal Gear Solid should just be remade on the MGS4 engine and released for PS3.
FFXI is being looked at for a Vita release but it would still probably be a good idea in my eyes to release it without a subscription fee on PS3 to get people somewhat interested in FFXIV which will probably require 5 more years of work to be ready for PS3.
We all know XIII-2 is just a last ditch attempt to make money so a small investment now in an HD collection would be a good idea. So they should do it. But then again SE isn't known for good ideas anymore.
I mean really, what kind of company refuses to remake a game that anybody who has ever touched a decent RPG would certainly buy?
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:10:37 PM
An MGS 1 remake on the MGS4 engine would be a dream come true!!! I wonder if Kojima has considered it. Do you have Kojimas email, World? LOL
As for Square, an FF collection would certainly be a big cash in for the company, and it'd be giving the fans what they want. Hopefully Wada and the team have learnt their lesson about trying to get a slice of the COD audience, you just can't with RPGs.
I also mentioned above in my post about Square taking too long to make games. Perhaps they should focus on one major title at a time, and not announce more when most of their games aren't even half finished. What do you think, World?
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:25:15 PM
They definitely take too long to make games and like you said it's because they start tons of projects and then just sidetrack everybody. And that's in conjunction with announcing titles too often. I think they announce things before they even go to the concept drawing board.
They admitted that FF Type-0 was shelved so they could do 3rd Birthday, and they admitted that Versus was shelved to do the 360 port of FFXIII and I imagine a half dozen other stupid games, many of which were cancelled recently when they realized they had bitten off more than they could chew.
It's a f'ed up business model they are trying to keep up and the fact is, as it turns out, it was not profitable to cater to the 360 or the casual action crowd. SE could very well still be on top if they had simply brought their PS1 and PS2 RPGs into the next generation.
The way I see it, once you tell the world you are making a game you better damn well have a team working on it henceforth until it's done. None of this, yeah we're making FF Versus and then 5 years go by without much to show for it but a game in preproduction.
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TheAgingHipster
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 8:28:17 AM
And, for the record, I agree wholeheartedly. My love for Squeenix has dwindled substantially ever since FFXII, and their blantant refusal to listen to and be a part of their own fanbase has just ruined them for me. I maintain hope that, one day, they will come around, before it's too late, but that hope loses its sparkle a little more every day....
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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 10:21:52 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:19:28 PM
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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:25:23 PM
Your comments on whole were right on, but then to claim FFXIII wasn't financially fruitful...well, I thought you were better to bring up a different game...like FFXIV.
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shadowscorpio
Friday, July 22, 2011 @ 1:26:38 AM
Are you absolutely sure FF13 was successful rather than the Final Fantasy brand name this time around?
If I ran a business and developed a product that 1000 people purchased and found that 500 of those people were dissatisfied, I would not consider it a successful product.
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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:08:24 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:09:18 PM
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Oh and BikerSaint I will be emailing you later tonight/tomorrow.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:11:36 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:14:14 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:28:32 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:51:18 AM
WTF are the Quad Cities?
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 2:45:34 AM
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 6:52:37 AM
EDIT: Also, trip to the US was a fun one. My wife's cousin is now happily married, and we're home safe and sound! US is a nice place! Still... gotta show some love for being back home in the motherland. As nice as the States is and (most) of the people are kind, I'm very glad to be back in Canada. :)
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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 10:43:55 AM
I plan on living here for a few years till I move out to Colorado or San Diego. :)
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 11:19:22 AM
I was just in your neck of the woods 8-9 days ago and again on the way home 3-4 days ago!
On the way up about 8-9 days ago, we stayed the night near Davenport, I think LV. At the Isle of Capri!
We were practically brothers! lol
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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 11:27:51 AM
Speaking of the Isle, I used to go there quite a bit in college to play quarter slots with the elderly while my friends wasted away all their money at blackjack, craps, and roulette.
By any chance did you run into a really hot blonde named Kelly? She's a "friend" of mine :)
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 11:58:46 AM
As for hot blondes, there were tons in Sioux Centre, where the wedding was... at the casino... lots of old people. No hot blondes. Of course, if there were, I wouldn't have looked. Might have got smacked by my pregnant wife. I definitely got hit a few times in Sioux Centre, that's for sure.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:11:00 PM
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Riku994
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:30:58 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:37:30 PM
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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 10:58:51 PM
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Resistance 3
The ICO & Shadow of the Colossus Collection
FIFA 12
BATTLEFIELD 3
MGS Remake
Splinter Cell Remake
Mw3
Uncharted 3
Im sure i've missed a couple more... So many great games & if you buy your games new like me your wallet suffers.
& I have never played a Final Fantasy game.
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Claire C
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:13:52 PM
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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:21:02 PM
Im willing to give it a try.
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Claire C
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:30:46 PM
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:40:47 PM
Batman Arkham City
Twisted Metal
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
RAGE
Saints Row the Third
Assassin's Creed Revelations
Gears 3, Forza 4 and Halo Anniversary (for 360 of course)
Dead Island
Driver San Francisco
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Star Wars: The Old Republic (maybe)
Need For Speed: The Run
Not to mention all those games you listed above, Resistence 3, Uncharted 3, ICO / Shadow of the Colossus Collection AND MGS Collection are at the top of my list!!!
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Warrior Poet
Sunday, July 24, 2011 @ 9:25:11 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath for this collection. It should be awesome if it ever comes out, but Square's priorities are so weird it'll be a few years at the very least...So if you want to play an awesome Final Fantasy you might as well get it now for less than ten bucks.
In fact, most quality RPGs can be found for less than a combo meal at Arby's, which makes a seriously difficult choice for me :D
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:15:56 PM
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Dreno
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:20:42 PM
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And I know its a completely different company, but id LOVE LOVE LOVE to see a .hack hd collection.
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duomaxwell007
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:21:30 PM
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Youd be surprised the money you save if you stick to just 1 game for 4 years. So yeah Id love an FFXI rerelase (even if it isnt HD) on PS3.. But I know it wont happen sooo WKC and FFXIV it is
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:53:50 PM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 7:42:12 AM
Plus, with World of Warcraft, I got bored of it pretty quick. Spend half an hour running here, pickup item, half hour journey back. Travel here, click on this enemy to repeatedly hit it, journey back. All clicking, all numbers, no action, no story, no drive to keep me playing.
I'd rather play through a game with a great story and in-depth characters, like Uncharted or Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed or Heavy Rain.
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duomaxwell007
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 8:59:58 AM
@dancemachine
You are saving money unless you can tell me how 15 bucks a month is more than 65 bucks a month on a new game? As for games with great storyies and indepth characters that is WHY I played FFXI for so long (and will be doing the same with FF14 once its playable). Unlike 95% of the other MMOs out there FXI (and 14) have storylines.. that was my main draw Im like ooo an MMO with a story? I GOT to see this.. and sure enough I wasnt disappointed... the vanilla game came with 3 storylines and each expansion pack that followed added one new one for a current total of 10 different storylines. So you basically have 10 different games in one.
Each story starts with a cutscsne, then like every other offline RPG you have to talk to certain NPC to advance it followed by dungeon crawling and fighting a boss at the end with more cutscenes (which actually involve your character and supporting character who aactually AR in depth) til eventually you make it to the final dungeon and final boss with the final cutscenes (yes these storylines actually DO end) chains of promathia was the best and still is imho and it was the second expansion released it felt every bit as good as playing an offline FF game... boss battles and music was epic (especially they vocal song during the ending cutscenes) characters died, final boss had multiple transformation forms like every other rpg final boss) LOT of the battle were difficult (i remember a few bosses m and my groups had to take on about 10 times before I finally developed a strategy to take them down (i was the tactician and leader of the group heh... a thief calling the shots.. who woulda thought? heh) Not to mention these storylines arent short they can take anywhere from a week to as month to beat depending on how long/often you play.
So yeah thats why I could play FFXI for so long Id NEVER play any of the more mainstream MMO (WoW or EQ) BECAUSE of what you stated.. all they consist of is grinding, pvp, endgame raids and stupid fetch quests, that would only hold my attention for a month before Id get bored and (and i know this because ive played plenty of those free to play mmorpgs and pc and they were only fun for that long) all MMOs should take a step from SE and start integrating cutscenes and stoylines into their MMOs.
Just check out the CoP opening. the first time I saw Bahamut rising from the sea I knew things were gonna be epic (and surely it was... took awhole 18 of us to take that titan down)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdR52RjaxVo
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 11:28:21 AM
I like a good RPG with little chores and nit-picking, but FFXI got to be too much for me after a while... actually, my account got hacked and all my gil and expensive items were torched. And Square-Enix has shitty customer service, so I just quit. lol
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duomaxwell007
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 11:54:49 AM
because now at 30 plus you fight in alliances (no more just 6 ppl parties) and you fight hordes of monsters at once (were talking like 20 at a time as opposed to pulling one at a time) that two or three black mages can killin one spell and they give 500 exp each...(and thats in an alliance) sooo 20 mobs that give 500 each (more if you count the exp chain bonus) plus that group of 20 dies in 5 secs from all the black mages casting aoe spells to wipe them out = well you do the math.. the levels come REAL quick at that rate... you maybe gain 10-20 levels in an hour.
so yeah if you started playing again you wouldnt have that problem anymore
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:36:46 PM
Anyways, not sure I'll ever go back now. I'd be too upset about having to start over.
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duomaxwell007
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:57:23 PM
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A2K78
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 11:39:40 PM
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Jawknee
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WorldEndsWithMe
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Claire C
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:08:07 AM
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Warrior Poet
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:09:18 AM
High-res retexuturing? Pretty hard, I'd say. I sure wouldn't want to have to go back and re-render every single texture in a 4-disc game :P I was thinking lately how many hours of work goes into just one hour of gameplay for any given game. It really is a lot. Square should be working on Versus XIII, anyway.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:47:36 AM
You should see how bad PSP games look on an HD TV, I hooked it up and it was horrible. I certainly hope Vita is backwards compatible for digital PSP and PS1 games.
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Ultimadesires
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 2:19:28 AM
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Warrior Poet
Sunday, July 24, 2011 @ 9:33:11 PM
I do have an HDTV and I've seen how bad PS1 games look, lol. I definitely agree with you. Had to shake my head when I got a look at Squall's face ingame! I actually don't mind it much, but the older games should really be played on a CRT TV or at least a smaller monitor. Haven't tried it with my PSP, though.
There's also a PC mod that makes FFVII look much nicer somewhere...
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Warrior Poet
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:11:22 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:48:10 AM
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Oxvial
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:19:14 AM
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rogergent
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:25:48 AM
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dmiitrie
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:42:09 AM
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Personally though, I really don't care. The only PS2 version always looked good enough to me and I think S-E really started going downhill when they decided to start making direct sequels. As far as I'm concerned, nothing they've done for a home system has really been worth a damn after X-2.
It's too bad that they'll probably never give their old SNES classics the HD treatment they deserve. That'll be the first day 1 purchase Square would get out of me since X.
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jdt1981
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:35:50 AM
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Ultimadesires
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 2:20:28 AM
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Lawless SXE
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 3:12:46 AM
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*sigh*
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BankaiOver9000
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 4:16:03 AM
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___________
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 4:30:16 AM
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sorry, but kratos going to another platform is more likley then $E giving us a FF collection!
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 9:22:12 AM
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Underdog15
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 11:29:28 AM
but they will.
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bebestorm
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 7:53:03 AM
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marcusfrommo
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 8:34:10 AM
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FF7,FF7,FF7, enough is enough. Square said the cost to redo ff7 with ff13 quality or better would be astronomical. Square said that they wanted to put more stages worlds but it wouldn't fit on the blue ray or would go over there budget.
Besides, other than the upcoming pushed back ff14. Xbox doesn't want it, that's why it's exclusive. What other games does square makes for consoles that are exclusive?
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 8:43:33 AM
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Underdog15
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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 9:53:45 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 10:17:50 AM
So take your own advice. STFU.
And you might try reading next time.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 1:22:20 PM
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TheOldOne
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 9:40:41 AM
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Jawknee
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TheOldOne
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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 9:45:49 AM
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I absolutely loved FFX.
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saintaqua
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 12:33:15 PM
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They are starting to lose money because no one wants the MindJack, we want Final Fantasy! Even Remakes would make me super happy.
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F302Pilot
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 7:21:47 PM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 21, 2011 @ 10:20:10 PM
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That would take a long time and a lot of money. Hence the 2 and a half years and big budget.
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Arvis
Friday, July 22, 2011 @ 9:39:42 AM
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D1P!!!!
-Arvis
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MrAnonymity
Sunday, July 24, 2011 @ 7:04:39 PM
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SS4
Sunday, July 24, 2011 @ 10:45:44 PM
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As for FF X and XII remakes it sounds good. I'm pretty sure a HD remake would sell more than the latest FF are and lets not talk about a FF VII remake....I'M pretty sure it would outsell all FF to date lol
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Gravelight
Sunday, July 24, 2011 @ 11:15:52 PM
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MMKM
Monday, July 25, 2011 @ 8:01:32 AM
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I'm OK with the PS1 games on the PSP, since the quality of the graphics would be too distracting on my TV now. >.< I just wish all of them had been put on the PSP, instead of divided between it and the DS. I travel a lot, so I'd rather carry just one game system, not two and have to think about which one I have to grab when I pack.
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TheCrazyMerc
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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 @ 9:48:19 PM
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