Epic Hints At Eventual Unreal Return
See Full ImageThere was a time in the industry's history (and it wasn't that long ago) when the name "Unreal" was synonymous with FPS. This generation's shooter war is between Call of Duty and Battlefield; in the '90s, there was once a war between Unreal Tournament and Quake.
And the iconic fast-paced franchise did have an impact on each PlayStation generation. UT was a launch title for the PS2 and Unreal Tournament III actually hit the PS3 first back in 2007. Yes, it's true; there was a multiplatform shooter that 360 owners had to wait for.
But since that time, we've heard nothing from the UT series. Thing is, developer Epic Games has been cranking on their new award-winning franchise this generation, Gears of War. Will they ever come back to Unreal? Well, Epic President Mike Capps gave fans hope via IndustryGamers:
"We have a couple other major franchises that we've not been paying attention to. It's been a long time since we shipped an Unreal game, and it's an awfully loved franchise that we hold pretty dear here. We haven't been giving it the attention it deserves because we've been focusing on Gears of War and we're still a relatively small company."
He adds that going back to Unreal "just makes plain business sense" and of course, every company needs to make money. Capps said the team has been focusing on new IPs lately (Bulletstorm, Shadow Complex, etc.) but from a business standpoint, they should spend more time with their existing franchises. After all, that's where the money is.
We definitely want a new UT. It's one of those old-fashioned styles of shooter that doesn't take itself seriously at all. It's just runnin' 'n gunnin' at its best.
Tags: unreal, unreal tournament, epic, unreal ps3
7/26/2011 9:18:48 AM Ben Dutka
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 9:43:02 AM
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 10:28:31 AM
The original Unreal's were a group of really great games, that actually had great story lines and the combat wasn't all botfests like the more recent entree's to the franchise.
The only way I'd be interested in a new Unreal is if they went back to their roots and went SP-centric.
To be fair though, UT3's custom map uploading utility for the PS3 wouldn't have done very much good without the PC version. ;)
Last edited by Mornelithe on 7/26/2011 10:32:26 AM
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Temjin001
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 10:49:32 AM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 10:58:49 AM
Kinda makes me miss those days :(
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 11:06:06 AM
@ Temjin001: To each their own, I suppose. But, I definitely disagree with you, the original Unreal games were awesome.
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Temjin001
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 11:07:53 AM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 11:18:23 AM
And before that one named UT2001, but both based on the same engine, U2?
Man my basic PC gaming knowledge is getting worryingly rusty here!
Last edited by Beamboom on 7/26/2011 11:21:56 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 11:31:28 AM
...leave it to the PC elitists to leap to that horrendously terrible platform's defense. ;)
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Geobaldi
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 11:34:36 AM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 12:00:21 PM
But if all three used the Unreal 2 engine, then that engine sure kept going for many years!
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 12:23:46 PM
Notice Ben, I said the game was good. I didn't say anything about PC's being awesome or anything like that. Sounds like insecurity to me, buddy.
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Temjin001
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 12:46:21 PM
Oh and Mornelithe. No, no I rebuke to each their own. It is now To Temjin all will agree. =p
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 2:39:23 PM
And there is no bashing in the article. There's praise for UT but of course, you ignore that. You also added an unnecessary insult by putting "media" in quotations. At the same time, I can easily predict your posts, my friend. You somehow manage to work the PC into the majority of them, and ALL with this little subtle elitist tone. It isn't hard to spot the PC fanboys. They all have egos the size of Montana. Hence, the "media" in quotations. PC fanboys are smarter than...well, everybody on planet earth.
.....sounds like insecurity to me, "buddy."
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Underdog15
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 2:56:22 PM
Definitely interested to see if the PC-crowd can top that one.
As for me, I have a few games on PC I enjoy. I played Fable on PC, I own Halo 1 and 2 for PC, I have a Prince of Persia game, I have a few Age of Empires and Civilization games, FFXI and FFXIV, and a gog account. Gotta say though... definitely prefer the consistency of a console.
Oh yeah... PC gamers definitely have an air of elitist attitude around most of them, whether they realize it or not. Just an observation, and not necessarily about anyone here. But it's definitely there in abundance.
@Mornelithe
How did you not realize he was joking? lol
P.S. how did I forget Lords of the Realm 2? I -STILL- play that game.
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 3:23:36 PM
Know what else is fun? Reading words in someone's post that weren't there. Did I say you knew nothing about the platform? Hmm?? Point it out. Where did I say it? I'm assuming you're taking this from another conversation, because I quite obviously didn't assert anything regarding your knowledge of the platform, beyond 'a platform he doesn't choose to partake in.' I guess we all read things differently. O.o
Did I say there was bashing in the article? Nope. Did I even really pointedly call you out other than to say that while you may not think so, the original titles were amazing? Nope.
Unfortunately, you reverted to your well-used repertoire of slamming anyone who has ever enjoyed a PC Game as being a PC elitist. You see how I'm not really interjecting my preference into these conversations unless the actual conversation specifically requires it? I'm not trying to ram it down peoples throats, unlike you.
If you have a problem with me putting the 'media' in quotations. Stop making yourself part of that particular 'media', by creating strife where there need not be. You actually write quite well, and typically I enjoy your articles. The endless vitriol against PC is a bit absurd though.
And golly gee, I sure is sorry that I couldn't talk about a franchise that originally started on PC, having played every iteration from PC to console...without having uttered the two words PC. You're right man, I'm just devious that way.
See, I don't care what everyone plays...that's their deal, I've spent enough time trying to explain my position, that...it's really almost like a religious debate. It doesn't matter what I believe, or know, anymore than it matters what you believe or know. It's about what you find entertaining. I get my entertainment from PC, PS3, 360 (Pinball mostly), PS2 and PS1. My knowledge of games and the history of gaming, come from those platforms as well as a great many others I owned and enjoyed over the years, and considering PC's had a big hand in the gaming industry for decades. You should expect from time to time, that someone is going to inadvertently let the cat out of the bag, and remind people that some franchises did actually start on PC, and were allot of fun to play. Is that some carefully worded slant to consoles? Pro PC talk? Nope. Just acknowledging a franchise that was pretty sweet back in the day.
So sorry if that bothers you, but...that's how it is. Some games did start on PC.
@ Underdog15: He wasn't joking, he always gets his jabs in on PC's. He's been doing it for quite some time.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 3:49:48 PM
2. I never "trashed" any platform. The ONLY thing in the article is PRAISE for Unreal. And the comment was a JOKE. Note this- ;) See, you knew it was a joke and yet, you couldn't help yourself. The precious PC needed defending!
3. No article exists on PSXE that "bashes" PC or PC gaming. And yet, you seem to feel the need to "point out" certain things ALL the time. Would you like me to generate an actual percentage of your posts at this site where you mention the PC? You likely wouldn't want that; it's so insane, nobody would believe you played anything BUT PC.
3. You're a PC elitist. Nothing you ever post proves otherwise. Yeah, I'll call them out as I'll call out all the idiot gamers who claim to be better than everyone else on a continual basis, and absolutely refuse to concede a single solitary point about their preferred platform.
You can claim a non-bias all you want. You can insult me all you want. Your post history is your post history. That's not really up for debate. You absolutely positively cannot help promoting or defending the PC. So you can pretend all you wish...I can read.
If you'd like to be viewed differently, perhaps you should try a new "act."
P.S. Holy sh**, that percentage of your posts that mention the PC is actually even higher than I thought. It's freakin' funny as hell. Nooooo, you're not biased at all. LMAO
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 4:43:36 PM
If you don't like being singled out as a PC hater, stop making yourself out to be one. Plain and simple. Do I constantly shit all over the consoles? Do I? No. I have in the past talked about the pro's and cons of both. But, I own most of them for F's sake, seems kind of stupid to trash something I've paid thousands of dollars into.
PC Gaming, is where most of the devs nowadays got their start. It's where much of their notoriety came from. If you have a problem with people discussing past successful franchises that happen to have been on PC, I suggest an immediate and aggressive campaign to rewrite history. Until that time, I'm going to mention PC from time to time..., especially when discussing a franchise that originally started on PC. You may think Unreal simply appeared on consoles one day, but it actually had a history prior to that.
I never said I wasn't a PC elitist, I have, however, scaled back my rhetoric and attempts to explain why I feel the way I do. I have also, on numerous occasions stated that I absolutely prefer fighting games, and racing games on console, and that my main focus on PC is FPS/TPS. Sorry if you missed that, it's about my entertainment, after all. Not yours.
Never said I wasn't biased either, why you're intent on putting words in my mouth, instead of simply discussing things like an adult are beyond me. But hey, if that floats your boat, so be it. Kind of silly to make bullet points about it, when I didn't even claim such a thing.
Who says I want to be viewed differently? And who says I care about peoples views of me in the first place? I change because I _want_ to. Not because you want me to, or someone else wants me to. I changed my approach with gaming discussions, because, as I said, talking shop doesn't really have any effect on what people enjoy doing. Wasting hours of my time going into huge detail, is simply unnecessary, and it's not like I want to change the way people have fun. That's another reason why I stopped being so forceful about it. It's not my right to tell people how to have fun, nor would I want to do so, even if it were.
It doesn't take a genius to know I enjoy PC's and consoles, or a search function either. It's been obvious for years, I think, and I've never even remotely pretended otherwise. So, congratulations for finding what pretty much everyone is aware of.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 4:49:41 PM
......so what are we even arguing about?
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 5:27:22 PM
I will not however say that most of the time it's irrelevant to the topic at hand, given, many of the franchises on console nowadays started on PC. Discussing the differences, be they for the better or worse, is bound to happen, and it's certainly healthy to understand what is and isn't good for the industry.
As for the last part, no, I didn't know it was a joke. Want to know why? Because every time someone even says the word PC, you have a 'joke' to say. After so many 'jokes', it stops sounding like humor, and more like purposeful spite. And, honestly, that's how you come across. It's why I've lately, been apologizing, mainly to you, when a discussion about PC anything comes up. Because, I really don't want to get into another huge poo-storm with you about it. I get it, you don't like PC's, I really do. It doesn't change the fact that the original Unreal ON PC, was an awesome game, or that many, MANY franchises came from PC.
Why does that have to bother you so much? I don't get it. I'm ALL for a resurrection of the original Unreal IP. The most recent games seemed lacking, due to their MP-centric concept. Which, as I said before, was oddly like the article you wrote regarding SP suffering due to the attention MP gets.
It's not really an argument. It's really two personalities clashing. My impression, is that you will always have something to say, whenever someone says anything that could be remotely construed as positive regarding the PC platform. At the same time, I take the bait on those quite often, and end up in a back and forth having to try and explain or argue from the PC side. I really want to make this clear though, my original comment, had absolutely no ulterior motive other than to say that Unreal was a great IP. None at all. There was no need for the joke, and I think you knew where it'd take this conversation.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 5:50:43 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 6:07:02 PM
It's just that, at some point, I'd see your name and instantly assume there'd be something about the PC in there. That assumption didn't just come out of the blue, you know. I do know the members around here, and I have a memory.
I will admit to making one too many comments against the PC. I suppose I have. It's a pet peeve of mine and I don't hide it so well. Just so long as you've admitted to defending the PC on a routine basis...and you've resolved to cut down on the rhetoric.
I guess if you stick to that, I can just ignore the OCCASIONAL PC plug. ;)
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Underdog15
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 7:54:55 PM
Mind you, I'll think something is very wrong with them, but I can accept it, none-the-less. :)
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Pandacastro
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 8:08:00 PM
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Temjin001
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 8:35:06 PM
But as a self sustaining platform, PC just isn't where it's at anymore. I don;t even really think of it as a platform. Unlike consoles, there just isn't any real direction or leadership behind the content offerings. No first party efforts to direct the culture. No long term commitment to supporting your existing hardware. Devs and pubs just sort of develop whatever works at the time and call it good. I mean, is that really a "platform"? Doeesn't seem like the same thing if you ask me.
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Geobaldi
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 10:07:18 PM
Console gamers and the gaming media have been saying that consistently for the past decade yet PC gaming continues to grow every year. Even more so once Steam launched. Console gaming may own the market nowadays but with more developers lately stating that they will use the PC as the lead platform, that's just another sign that PC gaming isn't going anywhere.
All platforms have their place in this world for whichever crowd wants to play them. That's the one good thing about competition. Though it brings out the ugly side in some people.
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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 @ 8:45:00 AM
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___________
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 @ 10:08:43 AM
i swear to god, if i hear one more person say PC gaming is dying my heads going to EXPLODE!
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 10:43:06 AM
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Temjin001
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 10:44:05 AM
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Zen_Zarab
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 11:32:57 AM
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I'd love to see a Downloadable HD remake. :P
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 12:05:46 PM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 3:04:45 PM
A friend has borrowed my copy of UT3 so I can't have a look yet. But all this talk about UT made me want to play it again.
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Geobaldi
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 @ 7:17:38 AM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 @ 2:11:55 PM
But the PS3 version? Did they manage to establish a community on that platform? Or is it just COD all the way? :(
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mastiffchild
Friday, July 29, 2011 @ 2:37:52 PM
So, though it's not COD numbers, or even Warhawk numbers, there's STILL a community on PS3 and I do believe a couple of the bigger sites still have groups and clans that play on set nights and if you come up against them, even with decent mates, it can be hard to get many kills!
I'm REALL hoping The Heist, when it comes to PS3, has the same mod cooking abilities that Epic and PSN allowed for UT3 because it's exactly what kept UT3 fresh(a mate makes amazing maps of places we all know like his house and garden etc)and the lack of it was EXACTLY why L4D on 360 felt SUVH a con as a full retail game. imagine Heist at a tenner WITH you allowed to cook over PC mods? cold be massive on PS3 given most previewers have liked it mechanics wise.
But, whatever, if you wanna dive back into UT3 one of the days I'm sure you'll get a decent game and if you round up a few mates you're certain of it even today-some of the people who've kept at it, though, are RIDICULOUSLY difficult to hit and we normally ended up playing one hit kill games as a result! UT3 on PS3 was TRULY the home of the jumpy, shooty, gimpy thing! Had it had a campaign rather than cutscenes linking(often puzzlingly hard because of the idiot AI)training it could have been a SWEET package but, as it was, the ability to bring modded maps over meant I had a LOT of fun with a game that the media hated a good deal.
What it DOES show, though, is that Epic would easily have got Gears1 running pretty damn well on PS3 had it ever happened even back then. UE3 was NEVER the enemy of Sony some made out and the fact UT3 and t's mods stand u so well is testament to that for me.
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Ultimadream
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 12:53:40 PM
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 1:03:32 PM
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mastiffchild
Friday, July 29, 2011 @ 2:41:36 PM
I honestly wonder about how dim that matey AI was!! anyone know if it gets better when you pl;ay on harder diffs? i.e does YOUR friendly AI improve it'[s brainpower as the oppo shoots you better?
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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 12:57:43 PM
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 1:25:53 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 1:44:18 PM
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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 @ 2:31:27 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 1:42:38 PM
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In that fanboy war I have to choose Quake. Unreal= empty game with multiplayer. Sound familiar to anybody?
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Beamboom
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 2:39:26 PM
I enjoyed them both btw.
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Geobaldi
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 2:52:43 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 3:19:53 PM
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Akuma07
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 5:59:48 PM
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He said an it had been an 'awfully long time' since they released an 'Unreal' game. Now the last Unreal game they released was Unreal II in 2003.
Unreal Tournament 3 was released in 2007, now i don't exactly classify 2007 as an awfully long time ago.
So i honestly believe that they are talking about a new Unreal game, not UT4.
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CoolBLKguy
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 7:33:22 PM
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jiko
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 9:27:26 PM
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___________
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 @ 4:22:45 AM
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come on, its been 4 years since UT3 released!
i love gears as much as the next guy, the best TPS ever created!
but come on, that does not mean you can ignore the game that made you who you are!
epic would be nothing if it was not for the PC community, and the unreal series!
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Geobaldi
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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 9:37:38 AM