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Gamers Unimpressed By Graphics In Resistance 3

Resistance 3 has gone gold and we're excited.

And while you will find staunch defenders of the game's potential, it isn't difficult to locate the naysayers, who have leaped all over the game's "lacking" graphics. Many will point towards the available media and make immediate comparisons to the current shooters; Killzone 3 and Crysis 2 are often cited, and the upcoming Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 have wowed gamers with intense videos and previews. It also doesn't help that rumors concerning sub-HD visuals in Resistance 3 are starting to circulate.

The bottom line is that there appears to be a lot of skepticism concerning the visual presentation in Resistance 3; specifically, that it can't measure up to the stiff competition. Many will say it was fine several years back, but considering the graphical leaps we've made since then, some say it's disappointing to see Resistance 3 falter. But is it a matter of a less accomplished graphical display, or is it simply a different design style? Is it more about atmosphere and a certain artistic flair rather than straight-up authentic military grit? Maybe it's just a perspective issue.

But either way, it may prove to be a problem. When it comes to the FPS genre, graphics really seem to take center-stage in arguments and discussions. And thus far, a great many gamers are saying that Resistance 3 lags behind. We'll be testing out the beta this week (expect our impressions soon) but in the meantime, we can easily make this observation. Everywhere you go is another gamer going, "meh, it doesn't look great." Is this is legitimate, troublesome issue, or are people just whining for no reason?

Related Game(s): Resistance 3

Tags: resistance 3, insomniac, resistance 3 graphics

8/4/2011 9:10:03 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (116 posts)

Fox hounder
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 9:51:47 PM
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I'd say people are just whining, graphics are important, but there not as important as some gamers this gen make them out to be. I wish more developers would spend less time programming their engines and spend more time (and money) writing a good story. Anyway, i'm sure Resistance 3 will be great, it's made by insomniac after all

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Qubex
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:41:32 PM

Up to a point, the problem is we are now in a world where even basic interaction with a UI has visual wizardry to it thanks to Apple and the like making devices more and more "attractive to use".

...and more importantly... let us not forget the "enormous" pressure... and I don't say "enormous" lightly, of the huge impact PC graphic fidelity is having on the current generation of games...

Like many an industry, a watershed moment in our industry will be the release of Battlefield 3. It will look so good, so photo realistic on a PC that that will no doubt up the pressure on games generally looking as good on current consoles. No matter how much we may deny it, we are lagging behind the PC, and this is adding pressure to developers.

People want to live and breath a world that looks real. Combine what you saw in Avatar and the top AAA PC games coming out and you have enormous pressure for developers to get hardware to perform at similar levels across the board.

Well we know we need to wait for the PS4 to start getting to the visuals we would expect today and then some, especially if you then want the tech to last an additional 5 years after its release... and still look good.

The console makers have the work cut out for them I think...

Regarding Resistance 3, to be hones, reviewing the Now Playing Resistance demo, I thought the Co-Op player campaign looked very good. I was quite impressed with the visuals if I may say so...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Fox hounder
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:38:06 AM

Your right, but the thing about Battlefield 3 is while it will have the best visual's to date, it won't do anything to innovate first person shooters in general, it will be the same tired gameplay mechanics we have come to love or hate. With the exception of a few games, we haven't seen too many innovative or defining games this generation. If the next gen consoles are just going to offer the same experiences with better graphics, (not to mention higher retail prices, thanks to higher production cost) i'll be sitting the next gen out. At this point i'm way more interested in the PSVitia & 3DS, alot of my favorite games this gen are on psp and ds.

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Qubex
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:09:36 AM

Fair enough Hounder, that was a good point. Its not always graphics we are looking for but innovative gameplay...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Fox hounder
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:24:31 PM

Right, and to add to what i said before, i can certainly see why people would buy a ps4, xbox 720, or wii u because of the increase in graphical power, and i certainly won't try denying them that, for me personally though there just has to be more than that.

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PANICinc
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 4:44:59 PM

If people are basing their opinion off the BETA, well then, they are idiots! The BETA is not a representation of the finished product. It is a TEST of the engine and gameplay mechanics. I LOVE the look so far. It's actually bright with a full palette!
And if they are going off some number they read somewhere, well, whatever. Go play COD with it's GREY color scheme in HD. Regardless of the #'s, it's still lacking in overall ocular pleasure!

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jlch777
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 9:54:18 PM
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According to Digitalfoundry the preview code runs at 960x704 with qaa.

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 9:58:48 PM

Is that good?? Lol

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:13:31 AM

No. It's actually a lower resolution than Resistance: Fall of Man ran at :/

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:06:30 AM

Well that's horsesh*t then.

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kevinater321
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:17:27 AM

Resistance had bland textures though, so it could be the case because resistance 3 has much higher detailed environments.

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 9:57:54 PM
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I think the visuals of the single player in the videos I've seen is impressive enough, which is what I'm interested in when it comes to R3.

If I were to buy only one fps this winter it'd probably be Rage though.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:04:12 PM
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I dunno, they were bad in the demo and don't look so great in the vids, but that's weird because Resistance 2 still looks great. I think graphics aren't always that important but they are very important with an FPS because the visual presentation is a big part of the experience since the gameplay and narrative is always simplistic.

The fact is though, a AAA exclusive pretty much HAS to look better than multiplats because it needs to play to the strengths of that one console and be held to a different standard.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:36:15 AM

Didn't they say the demo was quite an old build actually?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:50:32 AM

They did say it was an old build, but I doubt it was "quite" that old. They still released it, so that tells ya somethin'

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maxpontiac
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:13:45 AM

Since when is multiplayer graphics the standard for measuring graphics?

There are very FEW that can boast impressive visuals for the online feature.

Plus, I played the game last night, and if you or anyone out there reading this can accept COD and the recent BF games, it's fine. Plus, it still looks better than Halo.

So whats the problem?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:00:28 PM

Where'd you get R3 Max?

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Nas Is Like
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:04:33 PM
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I just saw the Resistance 3 E3 demo. And I thought the graphics were excellent.

Those that are unimpressed are either lying, blatantly hating or had unrealistic expectations.

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Kevin5
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:32:58 AM

"Those that are unimpressed are either lying, blatantly hating or had unrealistic expectations"

Or maybe, & you won't believe this, but just maybe people have varied opinions?

Your comment is adorable, I find it more unrealistic to believe we could be getting sub HD graphics in 2011 from a PS3 exclusive.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:52:09 AM

Kevin, pretty sure that CoD is also sub-HD... just sayin'

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:53:31 AM

After Crysis2 (who to me personally is the best looking and working shooter I've played so far) one should be allowed have high expectations and even demands, especially from a game with tailor made code to that particular hardware.


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Kevin5
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 4:31:58 AM

@Lawless,

Now i could be wrong here, but i am pretty sure this has nothing to do with CoD ;)But by all means, correct me if i'm wrong.

For the record, I am not trying to spit on Resistance fans in order to get a reaction or defensive response & i do hope i am incorrect in making the assumption that your little stab with CoD was suppose to annoy me? Well, i am no CoD fan so if that was your intention than you kinda hit & missed there brother. But there is always next time & maybe another gap in the near future for you to squeeze an attack in ;)

Look, it doesn't matter which game it is, the fact that any game; be it CoD or Resistance 3 here to have sub HD visuals in 2011 is simply inexcusable imo. I am not taking sides, if this was one of my fave franchises be it Silent Hill or Tekken I would be jumping all over it & ripping it to shreds.

Having said that, i realise you're a Resistance fan & i do hope the game succeeds & lives up to your expectations.

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Dridion
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:19:12 AM

Wow, just wow. This is TRULY a sad day in gaming when the only thing we care about are graphics. What happened to the gamers who played for the FUN of it?

@kevin

I don't think lawless was, in any way, trying to attack you. He simply stated FACTS which I even stated in the other R3 thread; THE BEST SELLING GAME IN HISTORY RUNS NOWHERE NEAR 720 EITHER! That, obviously, has not stopped gamers from buying it.

What's important here is how it runs. If I can get a solid 60 fps WITHOUT screen tearing and decent AA, than I'm a happy camper. I don't understand why people are so butt hurt.

This is why I love Jaffe...he understands the golden era of gaming, when fun was THE pivotal factor. If I can recall correctly, someone once asked him why the new TM looked the way it did. His response was simple; how long does that "awwww" factor stay with you while playing a game with beast graphics? For most only about the first 30 minutes!

Some are willing to sacrifice superb gameplay just to get 30 minutes of eye candy? Wow! I hate to hear what the critics will say when TM releases.

This gen has been amazing. From the console fanboys to the ingrates who complain about something as trivial as graphics. I can already tell and can guarantee that the majority of people complaining ARE NOT from the good 8/16 bit era of gaming they claim to be. There's no way I can begin fathom how someone who had no care, or even a preference for good graphics, can sit here today and complain. It's just unthinkable. I guess our breed is a dying one.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 6:05:17 AM

Rest assured, I wasn't taking a jab at you Kevin. Just pointing out that, as Dridion said, the highest selling game in history doesn't run at a true HD resolution. That being said, I agree that it shouldn't happen.

Dridion,
One thing that worries me is that I'm pretty sure that R3 runs at 30fps, and the AA is destroyed by the SFX on screen according to a article on, I think, Digital Foundry. But no screen tearing thanks to V-Sync. Graphics do matter. When they're better, they can drag you further into the game and eventually you acclimatise to them.

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Dridion
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 6:24:39 AM

@lawless

I do have to say it's a little disappointing to hear that it's running at 30fps especially for a FPS. I haven't played the game obviously so I'll reserve my judgments for later. The failure of a broken AA is as a little disheartening to hear. I hate jaggies and flickering but again I'll reserve judgment. However, I'm extremely happy to hear V-sync is enabled. It's a staple with most if not all PS3 titles.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:03:39 AM

@Dridion: I like your attitude, and I do agree to a certain point.
Todays games, even the ones with rather low meta-score, usually have quite good graphics compared with games not too many years ago. And true, it's not all about the graphics.

However, it's only natural to compare. And when doing so one should compare it with releases from the same period in time. And especially when it comes to the often praised exclusive titles, one should expect them to be at least on par with high profiled multi platform releases.

Mind you I will get this game unless it's a catastrophy, because of the coop mode.

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Nas Is Like
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:45:33 PM

@kevin

I don't understand how you can have "varied" opinions on graphics. Either they're good or they're not. Resistance 3's graphics are up to standards for the year 2011, if not even further beyond those standards. The graphics are excellent, simple as. Especially if you're playing the game in HD, there is absolutely nothing to complain or be upset about.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:07:07 PM
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Halo 3's graphics weren't that great either, and look how well that game did. Just goes to show, graphics aren't everything.

If the story is great and the gameplay is solid, I'm on board.

... well, I'm already on board. Got the Collector's Edition preordered. :)

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Temjin001
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:23:31 AM

Well. Halo 3 was reasonably good looking by 360's standards. PS3 gamers have been conditioned to expect great looking exclusives like GoW3, HR, Uncharted 2, Infamous 2, GT5, and KZ2/KZ3. Can't blame gamers for having high expectations for the next PS3 flagship exclusive.

But hey, no verdicts can really be made until review code is out in the wild. Besides, maybe that supposed graphics loss will be accounted for by something else significant the game is doing. I read it has impressive physics stuff going on.

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maxpontiac
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:15:05 AM

You are correct Dancemachine55.

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FxTales
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:07:15 PM
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Shouldn't be a concern. As long as it has an immersive story, solid gameplay and doesn't take 5 hours to complete then I'm content.

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sirbob6
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:09:13 PM
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I was so expecting this to make the original Crysis look like a SNES game. To see that it fails at this will force me to never buy this game and ridicule it at every possible opportunity.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:27:54 PM

Nah... feels more fun to ridicule YOU for that statement!! :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:38:02 PM

I love hyperbole

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Kevin5
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:08:11 AM

"I was so expecting this to make the original Crysis look like a SNES game"


I've never heard of this comedian.

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sirbob6
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:47:45 PM

Maybe I should have noted the sarcasm...
Resistance 3 is a D1P

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calculator
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:09:42 PM
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I believe people are just whining. Graphics don't make a game - so why whine about Resistance 3's graphics? The graphics aren't the highlight of the game. It's the story and gameplay that matter most.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:29:47 PM

Like I said above, Halo 3!!

It's graphics were just a hi-res Halo 2 clone and look how well THAT game sold. (Although, brand recognition played a role, it is Halo after all)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:42:39 PM

I disagree, the gameplay in FPS are almost all the same across the spectrum and the stories are all pretty Hollywood thin. I play RPGs for the gameplay and story, but if I'm going to buy into an FPS on day 1 it really should be a very pretty thing because it doesn't have all the other thousands of aspects happening like an open world game or western RPG does.

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sirbob6
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:49:14 PM

Don't forget about the epic guns!
They are one of the main reasons I love the series.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:33:30 PM
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Perhaps they toned down the graphics or resolution as a result of 3D implementation, along with the 3D split image thing for 2 players on the Playstation TV that they announced at E3.

I reckon it sounds more than likely this is what happened.

I hope this isn't the way of the future though, toning down the 2D single player graphics and resolution for 3D. Gran Turismo 5 managed to get it right!! 1080p for single player 2D, 720p in 3D, and it still looked incredible!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:44:13 PM

If that is true then I despise 3D even more.

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Codeez
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:38:59 PM
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Do graphics alone make quality games? Pshh....The Resistance franchise has never been about the graphics for me anyways. It's the fun factor that sucks me in. The Story, the vast array of weapons, the crazy enemies/bosses/environments..Sure I would love for it to run in full 1080p and at 60fps, but at the end of the day I know I'll be saying "Who the f*** cares about graphics? This game is kickass!"

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PSTan
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:42:28 PM
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Uhh... I'm pretty sure these detractors haven't seen the new Resistance story trailer (look it up, type in "Resistance 3 'Resist' Trailer"; aside from some awkward animations, the visuals look fantastic.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:45:39 PM

Trust me, what you see in trailers on your computer is rarely what you get at home on the console.

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maxpontiac
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:16:23 AM

Whether or not that's the case World, isn't the point of his comment. The trailer they just released on the PS Blog looks fantastic.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:01:35 PM

The point of his post is implicit.

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FM23
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:08:24 PM
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I have never complained about R3's graphics, but those complaining may have a point. The fact that it's a PS3 exclusive highlights their grief even more. Killzone 3 was good a looking game in a ugly end of the world way with its crispy graphics, but I wasn't impressed at all by it...well at least by the overall package....they mechanics were freaking great, but the game was just meh. Graphics don't make a good game. R3 may actually be a better game when it comes out.

I just got around to playing Oblivion and of course this game doesn't look that great at all by today's standards yet I hold it above alot of games because the core is so great. R3 might end up being a very good game, but the graphics are far from bad or game changing. But the gameplay does look kind of weird, I don't know what it is, but it looks very old school or something.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:12:49 AM

That's how I think it looks too: Very old-school. I actually got Half-Life vibes from what I've seen.
Not that half-life were bad back then, but it's far from the current expectations, especially since it's tailor made for one system, and not multi plat.



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Mamills
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:16:29 PM
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well, i'll have to agree.
i loved resistance 1 and 2 and im sure i will like 3. but im sorry these devs seem to obsessed with the colour brown. seriously the colour palette is really hurting this game to me.

but we'll see how it does.
not a 1st day buy for me though

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tazdood1199
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:17:04 PM
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I'm still getting it. I have been wanting this since it was first announced.

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Ignitus
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:21:21 PM
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The RESISTANCE series haven't been know for impresive graphics, rather they are more average and maybe that's a good thing.

While the game graphics are not impresive the campaing portion of the games have been generous, unlike those developers who try to push graphics to the limit that they forget to put a complete game in it. Yes, I'm looking at you Killzone 3. ;)

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FM23
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:09:14 AM

Yes, KZ3 wasn't as good as I hoped either

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:11:00 AM

One of my problems with KZ3 was the same as I have with so many of the ps3 exclusives (for whatever reason): The maps are so itty bitty tiny! There's like a new map area around every corner.
It's the same with Uncharted too - just a chain of tiny maps. That only enhance the "rail feeling" that I hate so much.

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Fox hounder
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 4:44:38 AM

@Beamboom, I know where your coming from, i had the same issue with MGS3, it makes you think there's a huge environment to explore, but your always stuck between "2 hills", MGS2 was linear too, but it didn't fool me with a lush beautiful environment, MGS3 is a great game, but definitely not my favorite.

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Fox hounder
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 4:56:19 AM

To clarify, i didn't want MGS3 to be an open world game (nor any other MGS game for that matter), i just wanted it to be a little more non linear, allow me more than one route to get to the next level. MGS4 imo got the formula right.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:21:15 AM

I totally understand what you mean. Even in linear games it's nice to have *some* space around you.
MGS was better in this respect, yes, but then again in MGS the graphics were not that crammed with details as they are in KZ3 and Uncharted. I think that is directly related, it's simply way too much details to be crammed into what little is available of ram.

To use Crysis2 as an example, that was a linear game too but you got *space* in those maps, giving you the illusion of being part of a larger world, compared to the railroad laid before you in Kz3. They could just as well have placed some markers on the floor, "walk this way"!


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Fox hounder
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:58:58 AM

Haha, exactly. To your point about MGS4 not having as much detail as Uncharted & killzone, i think that was a matter of the Cell processor not properly being explained to kojima and his crew. I remember reading back in 08 that kojima thought they had maxed out the Cell with MGS4.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 11:15:19 AM

They might still have done that Fox - cause the maps in that game were larger than most of the maps, at least in Uncharted, but unless my memory fails me also Kz3.
To put it simple: The less objects there are to be drawn, the larger the map can be. So maybe mgs4 did hit the roof. :) And I *much* prefer larger maps with lesser details/eye candy. Very much so.

Crysis 2 is running at a lower resolution, as far as I understand that's the main trick they chose to use to balance things out. And, again, I *really* like how their work turned out. I even like the blurriness in the game - it makes things look more realistic, imo.


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Fox hounder
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:14:30 PM

You could be right, and the thing about kojima is that he always seems to hit the graphical peek with whatever console he develops for, i don't see why the ps3 would be any different.

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FatherSun
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:23:33 PM
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Most gamers are spoiled on graphics. With all the available technology a superb graphical experience is not only requested, it is expected.

My son stated it the best. Any game can look great nowadays. But that doesn't make it a great game.

Resistance 3 graphics look to me more like a design choice rather that a technical limitation. I will reserve judgement till I see the finished product.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:38:14 PM
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i sure hope insomiac did not ship a sub hd game. this isn't 2007 nor is resistance running at 60 fps. if this was done to achieve 3d implementation that is just wrong. do not sacrifice the visual quality chasing after an essentialy nonexistent market. people really don't care about 3d and the current gen of consoles are not very good at it either. this is a 3dtv owner speaking as btw.

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maxpontiac
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:17:44 AM

Well as a fellow 3D TV owner, I disagree with you.

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Excelsior1
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:03:53 PM

the 3d we have seen so far has been very poor. it looks freaking awful. there is so much cross talk and bluriness you can tell the consoles were not designed to do this. you and i might own 3d ttv's but 3d uptake has been extremely slow. all i'm saying is the visual quaility should not be sacrificed chasing a tiny fraction of the marrket. i don't think it is worth it. i wonder if the 3d implementation in gt5 was to blame for those god awful shadows. it's not worth it right now. wait for next gen when a console can designed from the ground up for 3d and do it right. this current batch consoles struggles to get to 720p 30 fps...they can't due 3d properly.

now the 3d movies look great. avatar and re:afterlife lood awesome. the games...blah.

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Excelsior1
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:03:54 PM

the 3d we have seen so far has been very poor. it looks freaking awful. there is so much cross talk and bluriness you can tell the consoles were not designed to do this. you and i might own 3d ttv's but 3d uptake has been extremely slow. all i'm saying is the visual quaility should not be sacrificed chasing a tiny fraction of the marrket. i don't think it is worth it. i wonder if the 3d implementation in gt5 was to blame for those god awful shadows. it's not worth it right now. wait for next gen when a console can designed from the ground up for 3d and do it right. this current batch consoles struggles to get to 720p 30 fps...they can't due 3d properly.

now the 3d movies look great. avatar and re:afterlife lood awesome. the games...blah.

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Him
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:39:57 PM
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If i didn't want good graphics, I wouldn't have gotten a ps3. So yeah, I expect games to look good.

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BIGRED15
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:43:35 PM
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If that recent trailer is any indication, then this game will probably be close to uncharted 2in graphical quality. The reason people are freakin out is because of that stupid demo. That and what people are viewing as bad graphics is mostly due to its grim art style. Yea its gonna look dark and depressing. Humans have lost the war its the end of our world yet people still expect valleys of pretty flowers which is ironic because the humans main enemy is changing earths climate. Expect it to look cold expect many shades of grey. This is what resistance is supposed to look like.

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gray_eagle
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:28:13 AM

i think you hit the nail on the head,

ts not a bright shiny world people

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Geobaldi
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:48:56 PM
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I have never understood why people make such a big deal about graphics. I couldn't care less if it's just stick people running around shooting dash bullets at each other and so on, just as long as the gameplay keeps me enthralled. A game can be the prettiest game on the market with all the newest effects technologies and so forth, but if it can't back all that up with a fun gaming experience, then all that flash is for crap. Gameplay is what makes a game great, not graphics.

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Fabi
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:18:39 AM

It's not that hard to understand. I don't wanna go into it because I think you're just speaking out of frustration. But games like Uncharted and LBP wouldn't be what they are if it wasn't for the graphics.

I think it's not that graphics are the most important thing. But when you have an ailing economy, a ton of FPS choices, and all other PS3 exclusives have awesome graphics. You gotta be great in all areas to stand out.

Now I'm not gonna argue about the game play and story in Resistance. (I own and enjoyed both games) But I don't know if they are any better than any other FPS in those categories.

So basically, why can't we have both? If games like Killzone delivered on both. Especially being that it's the third game in the series this generation.

I always felt that Resistance had some of the weakest graphics of any PS3 exclusive. But it's still a solid game.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:41:52 AM

Graphics enhance an experience. And because the old adage, "a picture is worth a thousand words," counts double for an experience based around immersion, visuals remain important.

To say they're meaningless is just plain wrong. It's not how our brains work and it's not how this entertainment venue works. Of course, gameplay is always most important - and will remain so provided this industry remains focused on interaction - but graphics have a definite impact, one way or the other.

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aaronisbla
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:50:48 AM
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It looks better than Resistance 2, thats all i ask for

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BIGRED15
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:03:08 AM
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Of course graphics are important. And they will continue to be as long as the industry continues to grow. It's part of the overall package in a game. However what I will say is that I dont quite understand where exactly people are seeing the so called "notorious average graphics" that insomniac is continuously putting into the resistance series. People forget rfom was one of the first exclusives on ps3. So no it doesn't look like the kind of great weve come to expect from ND or guerrilla. But look at how r2 improved on that. The first time I saw insomniacs water effects, it blew my freakin mind. And the larger than life boss battles were epic though not very challenging. But I'm convinced that drama could only be achievable by r2s superb graphics not the outdated rfom graphics. And lets not forget insomniacs track record. They somehow managed to make Ratchet look exactly like a Pixar movie. I think we've crossed the line from being graphic bar setters to graphic snobs.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:20:44 AM
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I was worried about the R3 graphics... then I started playing R&C: A Crack in Time. It is gorgeous, and I know that it has a completely different style to Resistance, but if Insomniac can improve from ToD to ACiT in two years, while making R2 and Q4B in the meantime, then what can they do for Resistance after three years and only one extraneous project?

That being said, I know that Resistance 3 isn't going to be the prettiest game out there, but it should be compelling in every other way, and that's why I'm interested in it. Day 1 baby.
Peace.

EDIT: Just watched the trailer at the PSBlog. My god, that looks fantastic. Actually, it looks exactly as though it's what I've been looking for in an FPS: an emotional, cohesive story. I hope it turns out like ACiT and not R2... a fan favourite!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:10:10 AM
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I hear tell there is a big focus on the environments this time around, setting the mood for the narrative and that sort of thing. Maybe having lots of things on screen means they had to poop on the visuals a little. If they can carry off the proper mood with some decent backgrounds I'm not too worried about it. But then I'm planning on a later purchase and I tend to get pretty wound up about games that I need on Day 1.

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Kevin5
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:18:11 AM
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Yeah for a PS3 exclusive, i do expect better visuals especially when you play games like Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain & God of War III. I mean let's be honest here, we've had two Resistance games in 4 years & yet we're still getting visuals that look good but not mind blowing. Have they not nailed the PS3 tech yet after all these years or what?

Sure, it doesn't look like arse but it doesn't look ace either it just looks good, but good is 2007 & in 2011 i expect more than just good.

& let's spare the sugar coating excuse of "Who cares about graphics" I just cannot tolerate "just good" visuals from a PS3 exclusive that has given us two Resistance games already, it's not like they don't have experience with the PS3 already with two games already under the bonnet so why aren't minds being blown 4 years on with Resistance 3?

I really hope that demo was early code & not an indication of the final product & seriously, if this game ends up using sub HD visuals, then lol.

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sirbob6
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:57:24 PM

I remember R2 being pretty impressive graphically, especially the areas around the boss fights. I think we can expect that they can do it again.

And if I remember the demo was Alpha code from last year or something like that.


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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:57:13 AM
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Y'know, there's something that's really getting to me on this thread. There seems to be a bit of a backlash against Resistance 3 because it's running at a sub-HD resolution. Okay, fair enough, that's your prerogative, but you must remember that resolution isn't necessarily the same as fidelity. Yeah, a higher resolution means the pushing of more pixels, but even lower res games can still look as good, depending on the amount of fine detail that goes into it.

I'm not saying that R3 will look great, but it will have atmosphere, which is something that some games can't manage to achieve, and if you don't believe that, then go and watch a few trailers for it. Yes, it'll be brown, but that will help to emphasise the feeling that Insomniac are going for, rather than just having brown due to it not fitting their vision, like MW3...

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:26:25 AM

I totally agree regarding the resolution. There is no 1:1 relation between impressive visuals and number of pixels. To make things look good is a complex thing involving artistry, frame rate, modelling, animations, even AI play some part in it.


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evilmunkie
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:21:07 AM
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I was reading an article from here that said the disk was going to be 'crammed' with stuff, three game demos were mentioned but you can just pick them up on PSN this very day (KZ2, Infamous 2 and Motorstorm). Am I the only one wondering why some extras that are available already taking up space on the disk? If anything they should put a demo on there that is not on PSN, maybe have it so it comes out on PSN a month or two after the release, Twisted Metal demo instead anyone? I mean they are releasing the demo early to whoever got Socom. The dev videos sounds pretty cool though they should keep some of that. Why are movie trailers included though? I think I see plenty when I go to theatres. Can't they just throw a few movie leaflets under the game manual? What are we getting exclusive cuts of trailers that I won't be able to see off the tv or internet? As for music videos, I already know it won't have anything I listen to. I buy games to play games, and it might just seem I am just nit picking but I'm just saying that to me it seems like they are making unnecessary sacrifices. If these are the same demos from PSN then infamous 2 takes up 2.5 GB and KZ3 is 1.5 GB, thats enough space for 3-4 DLC packs when it comes to some games just right there! What I've seen for this game looks alright, but if all this stuff is taking up space and having any impact on graphics then I would say I could do without some of this, hell I can say it now, actually I think I just did.

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frostface
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:42:35 AM
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I'm a big fan of the Resistance series and look forward to this game regardless of reviews. I thought the Resist Trailer looked pretty good. Real end of the world stuff. I don't expect it to reach the bar that FoM set, R2 was fun but didn't compare with it's predecessor.

But I'm sure it'll be a fun game and I'm looking forward to it. I just hope nothing has been compromised to allow it to play in 3D and with Move. Not a big fan of hearing about all the 'extras' that are filling out space on the disc either.

But I'm still hyped about this game. It can't look as bad as another PS3 exclusive SOCOM 4. Now there was a terrible looking game that someone should of been shot for.

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___________
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:56:02 AM
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so?
this proves exactly whats wrong with this generation!
graphics graphics graphics!
ZOMG graphiz have to be amazing, otherwise it suxorz.
seriously!
come on graphics dont make a good game, story and gameplay make a good game!
*goes back into lab, continues work on time machine so he can go back to the way games use to be.*

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 4:04:36 AM

Instead of working on that time machine, go work on your coding skills! I'd *love* to try a game written by the infamous Noname. And I really mean that. I picture one heck of a confusing experience where everything is thrown at you in no particular order, things come and go, flashes and bangs, and Collectors edition will contain a piece of a table to bang heads on.
And every reviewer will scratch their heads, asking, "I don't know what the heck I am playing here, or even what I am doing, but damn, I am liking it!"

:D

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___________
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:28:23 PM

thats what ive been doing this year, but ATM my teachers in the UK at a comedy competition so i have to wait for him to come back before i can continue with my course.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:42:05 PM

You do? Seriously? Oh man can't wait to see your first game! It shall be a memorable moment to fire it up for the first time. :D
What language(s?) will you learn then?

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___________
Saturday, August 06, 2011 @ 11:02:54 AM

C,C++, C# done, i gotta learn Pasquale, java and i wanna do some net programming maybe HTML.
assembly too but that will be later.
just finishing C++ off now on my last assessment just gotta wait for my teacher to get back.
a family friend of mines trying to get me a job at team bondi he knows a few people there once ive finished, but i still got 2 years of studying left.

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slugga_status
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 7:59:51 AM
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I'll say this..people are simply whining. Putting way too much into graphics. They need to realize that the Resistance series has NEVER been the cream of the crop graphically. Where the series excels is gameplay and story.

Furthermore, you seriously can't judge a game graphically based on a demo and Beta..They are precisely that..DEMOs and BETAs. Which when the game releases you'll see that it is better.

Lastly, you really have to judge Resistance from where it began. Resistance 3 graphics are worlds better than FoM and worlds better than Resistance 2. Even the graphics in Resistance 2 were underrated. Bottomline...let's not judge this by comparing to other games. Graphically it'll never be in the league of Killzone and other games graphically...but I'd say in my opinion the gameplay is better and/or more fun

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Palmetto
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 8:39:03 AM
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They are probably the same folks who were whining about the graphics in Borderlands when it was released and look how that turned out for them.

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tes37
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:53:14 AM
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I haven't played any of the Resistance games and I know it's never too late to start. I have played plenty of Insomniac's games and I've said in the past that graphics aren't that important to me. But there are certain standards that I hold some developers up to. Insomniac happens to be one of them.

Insomniac has one hell of a track record and people know exactly what they're capable of. I would expect their work to stand out among other games in the same genre. If it looks worse then I would definitely have a problem with it.

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TheOldOne
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 9:57:59 AM
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If the story is appealing and it's fun to play, graphics won't matter that much. That's if at least receives an 8 on that department. I only played the 2nd one and it was really good. I hope Resistance 3 is at least a little bit better than it's predecessor.

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NLCanada
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 10:54:17 AM
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I played Resistance 1 a couple years ago and was completely unimpressed with the graphics, the campaign however was good, but could have been a better experience if the graphics were a tad better. Never played the second game, was their an upgrade in graphics?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:02:37 PM

uh yeah, Resistance 1 was a launch title, those all look bad now.

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sirbob6
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:03:29 PM

There was a major boost to graphics. However those graphics don't look that amazing by current standards anymore.

However I do suggest the game. It was fun to play (except for the Chameleons) and the bosses are pretty epic.

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Stormyhog
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 11:17:58 AM
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I have no problems with the graphics looks fine too me. Only issue I have is that their is way too much motion blur and strains the eyes after awhile.

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John Shoemaker
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 11:52:12 AM
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I honestly don't care what people say about the graphics of this game. I don't play the Resistance series for graphics. I play for the gameplay and the story.

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Lotusflow3r
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:12:04 PM
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There is a different tone in this thread on the subject of graphics in an FPS....yes, very different....well, at least to the subject of Duke Nukem which was punished and not defended like this here game!

Better send a note to Gearbox...."make next Duke game exclusive to PS3 to enjoy much more support by the fans, regardless of game!"

:-D

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:36:24 PM

DNF was punished because it blows ass. It blows ass in every possible category; not just graphics.

Resistance 3 is SLIGHTLY different in terms of the discussion.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:59:11 PM

Nah its a good game if you let go of the 12 years of expectations. Not a great one but a good one, and a very different kind of experience.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 7:34:13 PM

12 years of expectations have nothing to do with it.

It's sh** compared to even mediocre titles.

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BIGRED15
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:31:01 PM
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Someone mentioned rfoms graphics which for its time were actually quite good. Similar to mgs4 in quality around that time frame yes it was very grey but that's good because it needs that to set the mood. If the game didn't do that it just wouldn't mesh with the depressing story. R2 went the more lush route with color plates and much more detail than rfom but people criticised it for story and lack of other creative elements. I'm convinced this installment will outdo the last2 because its mixing elements people loved from both into one. You can gripe all you want about that shady demo or "bad graphics" but at the end of the day insomniac will do their fans justice and let's be realistic here have they ever REALLY dissappointed their fans? Ill go on record. to say r2could b considered the most underrated game this generation. Most of the gripes people had were pretty unreasonable considering the good review scores. So the answer to that question should b a resounding no...

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Ultimate_Balla
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:51:08 PM
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I smell an editorial about FPS and graphics coming soon. . .

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thj_1980
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:02:07 PM

Oh yeah definatly!

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thj_1980
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 12:57:14 PM
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Really??? I thought it was decent!!! maybe the best graphics ever for a resistance game.

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xnonsuchx
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 1:38:49 PM
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I went back and watched a few HD vids of R3 and don't really see what people are complaining about. The graphics aren't really swe-inspiring, sure, but they aren't really crap. Maybe I'm also just more in the "but is it fun to play?" camp. It seems like ever since UNCHARTED 2, all newer games are supposed to look at least as pretty to some.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 2:26:35 PM

I believe the "problem" (if any) is more that they are compared with kz3 and Crysis2, who has kind of defined where the current bar of FPS on the ps3 should be.

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Nestore
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:02:07 PM
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I briefly played an R3 demo at a demo booth and I was surprised by how good the graphics were. This isn't the best, but I think this is definitely in the top tier with other 2011 PS3 titles.

The bigger criticism is that single player shooter campaigns have become stale and the multiplayer shooter market is extremely crowded and competitive.

The basic formula of single player point-and-shoot is just tired. I thought Dead Space 2 was a much better rendition of a fantasy monster shooter compared to what was out a few years ago, but interest in this type of game, both from myself and the public, has dropped.

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aaronisbla
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 3:32:14 PM
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The recent trailer looks pretty damn nice
guess my eyes are just deceiving me....


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Robochic
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:28:44 PM
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Honestly if people are complaining about graphics then they need to see the big picture yes graphics in a game are great but to me a good campaign, single player story ect is completely statisfing. I say this cause honestly some of the best games i have played had relaxed graphics and awesome everything else. I have always loved this franchise and always will they get better every time just like UC.

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Crabba
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:29:22 PM
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I thought the latest trailer had some really great visuals, much much better than the earlier videos shown. I'm thinking most of those complaining about R3 graphics quality are basing their opinion on those older videos, which I agree did not look that exciting so I was a bit surprised they even showed those.

This last one though was definitely worth showing off to people.

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JackDillinger89
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 6:42:41 PM
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Im confused. Most gaming sites who had hands on time with resistance 3 praised the visuals now they blow? I will hold my judgement till i play the beta and or demo.

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Chamoru_Warrior
Saturday, August 06, 2011 @ 3:01:35 AM
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Well Ben all I can say is I don't know what kind of drug anyone saying Resistance 3 has unimpressive graphics is on. popular titles like the COD series, Halo series, and Crysis 2 on consoles are ALL sub-HD upscaled to 1080p but you don't see those same hypocrites complaining. Even if Res3 does end up being sub-HD from all I've seen it still has vastly superior animations, shadows, shading and textures to any COD or Halo ever made. If anything, the only upcoming fps that you've mentioned that doesn't impress me graphically is MW3! it looks exactly the same as MW2 and Black ops. I'm a Crysis fan but tbh I think Crysis 2 on both the ps3 and 360 looks fugly compared to Bad Company 2, Killzone 3 and Resistance 3.

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Chamoru_Warrior
Saturday, August 06, 2011 @ 3:01:39 AM
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Well Ben all I can say is I don't know what kind of drug anyone saying Resistance 3 has unimpressive graphics is on. popular titles like the COD series, Halo series, and Crysis 2 on consoles are ALL sub-HD upscaled to 1080p but you don't see those same hypocrites complaining. Even if Res3 does end up being sub-HD from all I've seen it still has vastly superior animations, shadows, shading and textures to any COD or Halo ever made. If anything, the only upcoming fps that you've mentioned that doesn't impress me graphically is MW3! it looks exactly the same as MW2 and Black ops. I'm a Crysis fan but tbh I think Crysis 2 on both the ps3 and 360 looks fugly compared to Bad Company 2, Killzone 3 and Resistance 3.

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Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 7:02:31 AM
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yea, cuz bad graphics mean the weapons, story, gameplay and multiplayer are gona be shit rigt ?
wrong!
graphics dont mean horse shit
a great game is one thats fun and has a story ill want to play ower many many times
as for visuals, you need good artstile and animations, thats what games like uncharted and sotc have

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Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 8:47:29 AM
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I could give a crap about the graphics. None of the Resistance games look amazing, but they're a blast to play. As long as the graphics are solid and the gameplay is amazing, I'll be fine. Plus the story is looking great. Graphics take up too much of the conversation these days. It should be about how much fun you have with the game and what experience it provides.

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