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Ninja Theory On DMC: "We're Not Changing Our Plan"

When the Devil May Cry reboot showed up earlier this year, the fans weren't all that enthusiastic about Dante's new look.

We happened to mention that he looked like a heroin addict. Others had equally unpleasant things to say, and wished new series developer Ninja Theory had stuck with the accepted Dante design. This same sort of backlash prompted Sucker Punch to change Cole's new look for inFamous 2 but the DMC makers won't be swayed. During a presentation at GamesCom 2011, Ninja Theory boss Tameem Antoniades simply said- "We've got our plan and we're not changing it."

Producer Alex Jones reminded everyone that Capcom Japan is actually responsible for Dante's new design, and they've already had "dozens and dozens of meetings" concerning the character's new look. Antoniades added yet another controversial comment-

"The people who are skeptical secretly want to like it. And our job is to prove it's Devil May Cry in essence."

Well, that's interesting. We don't like it because we secretly want to like it? ...I suppose. We won't pass judgment until we see the game, of course, and maybe that new Dante will go over better than expected. Besides, when it comes to this franchise, it's all about the gameplay. Right?

Related Game(s): DMC

Tags: dmc, devil may cry, ninja theory, dmc reboot

8/18/2011 9:13:08 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (65 posts)

YashaZz
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 9:43:21 PM
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I still love Devil May Cry. Story and character base.

I want to see THIS Dante in action.

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Jdogtoocool
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:20:44 AM

I know right so many differences yet they're confident that we're going to accept this Dante, so it's kind of interesting to see if their able to accomplish that. Definitely looking forward to this one

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:05:02 PM
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I say stick to your guns fellas! Though I don't know how his comment makes any kind of sense. Skinny Dante is definitely going to put off hardcore fans of the series. I, for one, think it looks fantastic.

Check out the GamesCom gameplay trailer and tell me the action isn't looking good:

http://www.velocitygamer.com/pt/GamesCom-2011-DmC-Trailer/blog.htm

Reminds me of another totally awesome Dante with a scythe...

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:23:26 AM

I saw it on G4tv website and it looked really awesome.



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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 2:00:16 AM

+1 for World.

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aaronisbla
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:04:51 AM

Allow me to disagree with you, that trailer wasn't all that impressive to be honest, at least in my opinion. It look rather bland and empty. The action looked as if it was pretty much by the books, playing it safe. gunplay looked a bit off.

Its not even about his changed looks. I for one think they should stick to their guns, no matter how horrible this dante looks. Maybe the final game will look much better, hopefully.



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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:39:09 AM

WTF did I get 2 thumbs down for?????

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 3:06:43 PM

well that's fine, but you aren't going to see better action than that outside of maybe Asura's Wrath. It looks at least on par with Bayonetta.

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 4:19:58 PM

You also have Dragon's Dogma, Ninja Gaiden III, Darksiders II, or that MGS:Rising to choose from.

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Oyashiro
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:10:07 PM
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Do we "want to like this game"? Yes, I think everyone wants to like games that are released in series that they enjoy.

But that doesn't mean we will/should accept radical changes to the story and characters.

When a majority of the fanbase is calling BS on something, Its not just because they "secretly want to like your game"... It's because they are audible telling you what it is that is keeping them from actually liking it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:21:14 PM

Shhhh, you'll start making sense, they don't want to hear sense.

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Ignitus
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:56:20 PM

Lol, well said World. ;)

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sawao_yamanaka
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:50:30 PM
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Eh, I don't believe they should get a pass when Sucker Punch wasn't allowed to get one. People are vocal about it for the same reason they were vocal about InFamous 2. Change the character back, simple as that.

Either way I will be buying used after the crap Capcom has been pulling lately.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:37:17 PM

It's a little different, Cole would have had to have space aliens kidnap him and give him a completely redesigned body and face for us to believe that was him in inFamous 2. This is just Dante as a young guy with a punk haircut whose hair hasn't turned all the way white yet.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:46:58 PM

Which doesn't make sense since he already had white hair before he learned Devil Trigger in DMC3.

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sawao_yamanaka
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:51:50 PM

@legendary

Exactly! In the original they even showed Dante and Vergil as little boys and they both had white hair. This is a reboot plain and simple with what seems like no demon powers whatsoever!

@world

Problem being is that Cole always wore that jacket so underneath he could have had those tattoos. About his hair I am assuming his molecular structure was changed but his hair could have grown.
With this Dante the fact that he doesn't act cocky or full of himself is a definite loss for me. The fighting has not changed so why change the character? Then they have gotten rid of Reuben Langdon who did both the voice for Dante and the mo-cap. Bring him back and I might reconsider.



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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:31:22 AM

No man, Douche Cole had a completely different face and was ten years younger. The one we wound up with still has a different-y face and body structure but they are within acceptable change limits I think.

As far as the new Dante being cocky, the original trailer that spanned out from him casually putting out his cigarette on a critter's head was a perfect glimpse that his attitude is intact.

And this Dante does get white hair when he freaks out.


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aaronisbla
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 6:57:10 AM

where does it show him freaking out and getting white hair?

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aaronisbla
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 6:58:45 AM

legendary is pretty spot on. Dante and Vergil didn't get white hair thru aging. It seems they've always had it or had it at a very young age.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 3:08:49 PM

There is a trailer out there when he rages and his hair fires up white. Sorry for linking to evil Kotaku, but I was over there covering their Resistance ignorance recently so I have this, it goes white at 1:04:

http://kotaku.com/5809602/devil-may-crys-e3-trailer-brings-the-white-hair

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aaronisbla
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 1:13:45 AM

thanks!

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Ignitus
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:55:04 PM
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I will make up mi mind when I play the actual game but right now I'm nervous about it.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:00:40 PM
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I only liked the first DMC (the only one I own) so I say do whatever you like. So far from what I've seen it doesn't look like they're going too far off the deep end.

FFXIII didn't make me put a bullet in my head, I think I can handle a "fresh" DMC.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:39:07 PM

FFXIII was just lacking things that shoulda been there. This game appears to be adding things in every way, including an origin story that the series needs anyway.

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gungrave
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:03:23 PM
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Part 1 & 3 were awsome, however I hated how goofy Dante acted in part 3. Despite the tight gameplay, I stopped playing that game due to Dante annoying the Shit out of me. Well, I have high hopes for this game but I do miss the original character model.

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hadouken
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:30:02 PM
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I'm rooting for this game but I like the old Dante look better.

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Kangasfwa
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:31:21 PM
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This game would be better off if it starred a young Nero instead.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 1:56:57 AM

TWIST:
New Dante is in fact young Nero! Or maybe he's Sparda. Come on, if Kojima can pull the wool over our eyes with Raiden...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:40:00 PM
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Oh yeah, you guys should know Crapcom has gone ahead and told Screen Gems to make a movie out of this.

Don't shoot the messenger.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 11:47:46 PM

How dare you allow them to make a movie out of this world! this is all your fault >o!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:35:26 AM

I fell asleep on World-guarding duty, it was an accident.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 1:58:15 AM

As long as they get someone who knows the spirit of the games... The last thing we need is Resident Evil again. *narrow eyes at Screen Gems*

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BikerSaint
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:06:41 AM
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<<<<<"The people who are skeptical secretly want to like it.>>>>>

Hmmm, some of you remember the Art Linkletter show where he used to say...
"Kids say the darnest things"????

(Hopefully I'm not the only old timer here that still remembers it,LOL)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:36:11 AM

Cosby did bring it back so people should know.

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:29:02 AM
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if you're one of those people who has already made your mind up that your not buying or not playing it then that's the same as saying you're not interested and if you're not interested then there is no longer a point of you watching anymore trailers, or reading up on anymore articles or following the progress of the game because of that would defeat the purpose of not being interest in because that´╗┐ would be a waste of your precious time donn't you think?

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 1:59:41 AM

No, because a person can always be swayed. It's not a waste of time if there is even the slightest chance that something will come around to leave you stunned and suddenly wanting it.

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aaronisbla
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:01:38 AM

@guyver: sorry bro, but that sounds like something someone would say when they are trying hard to defend a game... before even playing it. Gamers can and should be able to comment on a game's progress, even if they are skeptical of it all the way till its release

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:52:41 AM

@Lawless
and I agree so to certain extent.

@aaronisbla

"sorry bro, but that sounds like something someone would say when they are trying hard to defend a game... before even playing it. Gamers can and should be able to comment on a game's progress, even if they are skeptical of it all the way till its release."

What are you talking??? You didn't pay attention to what I said did you??? I'm not talking about the skeptics, hell I was somewhat skeptical myself in the very beginning, but I'm talking about the people who have convince themselves they're not buying or playing it NO MATTER WHAT, the people who aren't even willing to give the game a chance those are the people I'm addressing. That should have been obvious I know there are going to be skeptics with any game you completely missed my point. The point is what purpose does it serve to continue to follow the progress of a game you've already said you're gonna play it's waste of time even watching trailer or commenting on articles.

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:02:05 AM

Typo correction

"I'm meant NOT gonna play it's waste of time even watching trailer or commenting on articles."

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Vivi_Gamer
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 3:59:49 AM
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Lol well I am not changing my plan either... I'm still not buying it.

The thing is it's not like DMC was in a desperate situation, DMC4 was not that bad overall, while a bit empty it left the possibility of as sequel or prequel. But this is just unbearable. The worst thing about it is that this reboot makes most of the other DMC's redundant as the story has no conclusion so it just leads to nowhere.

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___________
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 4:12:57 AM
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oh please how arrogant can you get!?
people are hating on the game because it does not look like a DMC game!
people are worried yous are going to do to this what GRIN did to bionic commando, what crapcom did to DMC4, and RE5, and what $E did to FFXIII!
if you want to end up like GRIN, IE bankrupt with nothing but the destroyer of one of gamings greatest titles on your resume then by all means hack your brains out!
otherwise i suggest you get your head out of your a$$, and start listening to your fans.
not insulting them!
you dont want another enslaved on your hands, do you?

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Vivi_Gamer
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 4:40:30 AM

I actually thought Enslaved was pretty good, buggy at times, but overall a fun adventure game.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:36:18 AM

Enslaved was good. And GRIN went kablooey 'cos S-E didn't pay them for the work that they'd done on Fortress and cancelled the game. Not because they killed Bionic Commando.

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mastiffchild
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:31:37 AM

I thin k NT are VERY lucky to have this gig. they NEEDED Sony to save them with the terminally mismanaged(to that point) Heavenly Sword project and could only get the game out by selling the IP AND needed Sony Cambridge(among others) to actually get them through finishing the game itself. They THEN had the gall to cry about "just" breaking even with it when had Sony not saved their, and their game's, bacon the company would now, in all probability, be dead. They'd been throwing away cash and versions on the one-time Xbox exclusive that it's untrue and moaning later was classless.

On to Enslaved, the multiplatform game which waas supposed to show how much better goingf mutliplatform was financially for a brave studio like NT and what did it manage? It pulled off decent acting, writing and good character progression but ZERO game. They forgot the gameplay FFS! Is THAT a studio YOU would entrust a gameplay heavy experience like the DMC series to? My issue hasn't ever been Twilight Dante but the worry that NT have never managed a full game by themselves or ever shown the propensity toward combo based demon slaying DMC needs.

Seriously, this studio has led a bloody charmed life so far(unlike the unlucky Grin who might have come up with the incredibly daft "Wife Arm" but aside from that were crippled by SE and Capcom not actually paying them for work done on time)and landing this game that they have ZERO reason to believe they even COULD make half decently let alone actually land the project underlines just HOW lucky.

I sense a car wreck. And that's without even considering just how crap all Capcom's recent story based games have been! If you don't hunt monsters or fight on streets or with superheroes it's been crap.

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___________
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:56:03 AM

enslaved was a fantastic game, but barely broke 500K units!
if they dont want a repeat of that with this as i said they need to get their head out of their a$$ and listen to their fans!

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Clamedeus
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 6:46:05 AM
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Good, you don't change your plan, I won't change mine. As in, 'not' getting the game. We both will be happy. :)

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Laguna
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:23:08 AM
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Perhaps because Ninja Theory has a bad reputation with their games? The short Heavenly Sword and Enslaved? I wanted to like Heavenly Sword but it played pretty horribly imo. It wanted to be a hack and slasher, but the mechanics are awful and it was just not very good except for the story, which was only good in certain spots.

Also, we don't want DMC:devil may cry. We want Devil May cry 5. I want to know what happened to Vergil. Hell, if you see MVC3, they got Dante from the original series, a sign that they aren't really fond of this new Dante.

The fact is, they should have titled this a spinoff of DMC. It did not need to change, and this "get over it" attitude just reeks of arrogance, and i know they will fail.

They failed last year, and they will fail again. This will be worse than DMC2. Didn't Namco Bandai or whatever say after the flop of Enslaved that they are gonna focus on making their own games?

So yeah, Capcom must have really been desperate when they handed this away. People, vote with your wallet and do no buy this game, especially the hardcore. Then they will make DMC5.

Perhaps i am being too hard but, i am not even a hardcore fan and this new dante disgusts me. Not listening to the fanbase is never a good idea.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:38:22 AM

I thought they did a wonderful job on the story of Heavenly Sword. I was all the more impressed when I learnt that it was an afterthought, brought to the fore thanks to the input of Andy Serkis.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:43:43 AM
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Firmly believe in the 'stick to your guns' mentality. Shows cojones, and if Ninja Theory are offering a big f**k you to the fans, then so be it. People just whinge and nitpick anyway, so why not give them something to complain about.

That being said, I've really enjoyed the work of Ninja Theory thus far, though I firmly believe that their best is yet to come. They've got the pacing and storytelling down pat, but can't seem to marry their stellar performance on those fronts with similarly impressive gameplay. That being said, I really am loving the look of DmC. The colour, the style, the combat and the subtle nods to the old series. The only thing that confuses me is that I'm still reading conflicting reports that it is a prequel to the old series, or a reboot. I want an answer. I actually read an interesting article some months on how the writer was posturing that it was set after DMC2 with Dante stuck in hell, while New Dante is his incarnation in the real world receiving messages and clues on how to set the real Dante free. It was quite interesting, and I'd love for that to be true.

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slugga_status
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 8:04:26 AM
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I just don't understand why they would take DMC and reboot it with this new Dante. I just don't like it but maybe it's the fan in me. I really don't think DMC even needed a reboot. The bring us this far with DMC 4 and then just leave all the strings open. Too many questions left unanswered. People want to know the relationship between Dante and Nero..Or background about Nero period.

Capcom really is having a hard time giving people what they want..We want RE back at it's roots, We want an acceptable new Dante, and where the %^!$ is a new Onimusha?!

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duomaxwell007
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 8:26:55 AM
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not only did they change his look they changed his background too... instead of being half human half demon.. the son of sparda and trish hes not half devil half angel.. his dads a devil and his moms an angel... seriously so far the only thing DMC about this game is the gameplay... everything else is utter garbage.


this would be like making a star trek reboot and changing Spock to a Kligon (i know i spelled that wrong)..

if youre gonna make a reboot and dont wanna stick with the excepted character designs then just make awhole new story in the same setting but with a new character... kinda like Nero with DMC 4... all theyd have to do is change the new "Dantes" name to something else and we'd all be happy.

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Sogi_Otsa
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 8:34:02 AM
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I want to like the game. but i won't. because everything good about it is gone. The walking half-demon badass was all but replaced. The music direction changed. The system is on unreal engine, while I've seen decent and good games from it, Devil May cry shouldn't be associated with UE, as such a DMC that plays like Enslaved is not DMC. the game could be fun... but like i said, i won't pick it up outside the bargin bin, >$20 at least. i hope Ninja Theory learns from this and gets the original DMC engine from Capcom.

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TheOldOne
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 8:36:39 AM
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So DMC is now FMC (Fans May Cry). Isn't that Prince (singer of "Purple Rain") in the screenshot?

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Temjin001
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:37:47 AM
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It's still not doing it for me. The graphics look worse than DMC4. The gameplay looks to have been slowed down, and I still question if the combat is any more complex. Plus, Ninja Theory has yet to impress me with any of their stuff. Sometimes they've had good, maybe great, moments within their games, but the whole of their offerings is nothing I can get excited over.

The animation looks great. I'll give it that.

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:55:50 AM
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I heard many people calling themselves "fans" of Devil May Cry saying "I won't play this game because it's not dante, it's a drugged emo kid" well sorry to say but stop calling yourself fan of the game because you are not, period. You are a fan of Dante and that's all, if you wanna see him Google his name and select pictures, you will see him 12133612351236 times, or play the OLD GAMES no need to wait for an HD collection, when you can get the old ones for super cheap.

I'll probably get thumbs down for this comment not that I really care) but it seems like nowadays people stopped caring about the game play and started caring about less important things.

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Temjin001
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:14:01 PM

Yeah, but just think if Konami replaced Solid Snake with like a femme, ignorant, whiney kid with blond log hair? Er, wait =p

Ulitmately, though, I'd say the core audience should care most about how the game is designed and how it plays.

And maybe with time, that femme blond girl can be changed into uber awesomeness like in MGS4

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 12:41:50 PM

But see that just the thing temjin people have to be willing to give it a chance though and a little over the old fanbase doesn't even wanna try or claim they're gonna wait till it hits the bargain.

I get what you're trying to say though.

I'm also still looking forward to Rising.

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slugga_status
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 1:11:29 PM

I gotta disagree. As a fan I'm extremely disappointed right now. I'm still going to play the game..I honestly don't believe the people who say they won't. Big difference in playing and buying the game.

It's not just about Dante is what you gotta understand. It's what they've done to a story that was never finished and left many loose ends untied. There was really no need for a reboot just yet with the series. It is what it is though. Although disappointed,I'll give it a chance..that's how we discover sleeper games anyway

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GuyverLT
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 1:36:12 PM

yeah well some say they won't even play the damn thing which is dumb within itself, they should at the very least try it, and if don't like then I'm sure their gonna have a field bashing the hell out of it.

The story was never really a good one to begin with it; it was always very mediocre or OK at best but never good or great; it was always a weak point of the franchise and Capcom doesn't have any really good writers. With every DMC game they would always raise more questions than answers, Capcom is terrible when it comes to doing to true sequels just look at SF4 which was set before the events of SF3. The only franchise I'd say they did alright with developing competent storylines in the sequels would have to be Onimusha, but they don't even seem to care about bringing that franchise back, if they did I suppose they would pass the project to a completely different studio.

With that being said I can't say that I'm disappointed that they're not continuing the sub-par storyline.

I'm only surprised that they decided to reboot.

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Clamedeus
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 4:47:29 PM
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Not interested. I'll play the old games.

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Sogi_Otsa
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 11:28:48 AM

Yeah, rather play DMc4 again then that game lol. replaying DMC1 is fun tho.

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Laguna
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 7:23:34 PM
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I was going to hold off buying DMC4 because i believed by now we would get DMC5. Well now im gonna have to get DMC4, and hopefully a HD remaster of 1-3

Even if the story of Dmc is good, the gameplay has to be up to snuff, and judging by Heavenly Sword, i don' think it will be. Worst final boss on the ps3!

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LazyVigilante
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 6:46:55 PM
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I,for one hate the new look! :( The old Dante was so masculine & charismatic!

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Broady
Monday, August 22, 2011 @ 2:45:10 AM
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Looking forward to it regardless of looks!
Also, expecting some large plot twists - this dante might not be who we think he is (hopefully?)

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Tru
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 10:04:22 PM
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It goes without saying gameplay is essential in dmc, but the story is just as important to me imo, I just hope their is a logical explanation in the game explaining his change in appearance and that it actually ties in to the story that's been going all this time.

It's difficult to tie DMC 4 to the rest as it is, but there are visible connections. Also, I know we've only seen WIP gameplay but it doesn't feel like thstyle of the gameplay was being captured.

As a hardcore fan, they are right, I do want to like it, so it better still in be dmc in essence....

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