EA: No Pressing Need For A New Console Generation

You've confused them with Activision.

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Lmao

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Intersting comments.

This bit - "even more important, B, when they think a new platform will really offer something meaningful to the consumer." - seems to chime well with what Sony have been saying about the PS4 this week. Basically until the current platform is unable to deliver something new or 'meaningful' for consumers, no new PlayStation.

Seems we've heard comments like this from several sources in recent months. Of course they could all be protecting their current business by squashing rumors of new systems that might harm sales...

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Thats right. EA makes software, unless they are straining the PS3, there's no reason for them to complain. Sony is not even in the rush to release new hardware, why would EA care?

5th Day without PS3.

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Although I think we really don't need a new console I woul definitely purchase a PS4 if allows me to continue enjoying my PS3 games collection.

I'm new here but feel free to add me on PSN, mi ID is flagame17.

My english is not so perfect but we can be friends right??? :)

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your english sounds fine.

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Thanx!!

I'm trying to check my spell everytime i type a comment ;)

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Your English is great, don't worry too much about spelling, no one here will object to misspelling or grammar errors. But, if they do, we usually let them know it's not cool.

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Don't worry about it. I'm not a native english speaker either and nobody has said a thing about my multiple spelling and grammar mistakes.

Though some of my comments generate rage from time to time. ;)

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Actually, speaking of grammar I don't think I'd mind at all if I were made aware of my bigger grammar errors. Misspellings is one thing, that's usually caught with the spell check, but not so with grammar.

I'll add you to my friends list this evening, TrophyHunter! I use the same nick on PSN.
Where are you from, by the way? I am from Norway.

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I'm from Mexico, cool you would be my first friend from Norway :)

Mi ID es flagame17, sometimes i feel like I screw it setting my PSN ID jeje

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BeamBoom, consider me on top of it. Though ya know I screw up a lot too since it's just a casual platform here :)

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See all the response from other members? Feel the love here?

5th Day without PS3.

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Godsman, don't be down about it... I still haven't had time to fix my PS3 and its been about 4 months :( I couldn't be bothered going to the service centre now.

I am just thinking of buying a new one...

As work is replacing my laptop I can buy the new PS3 and the Galaxy Tab 10.1inch tablet. However, seeing the new NVIDIA Tegra3 SoC (called Kal-el - you can see tech demos of it in action on YouTubby - its called Glowball)

Great technology that makes me think I should wait and pick up a tablet with this new silicon in it. It looks awesome...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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TrophyHunter, don't worry about your English, you have a much better grasp of the written English language than ___________ and English is his first language!!!

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actually no its my 4th.
itallian, german and greek are the main 3.

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I'd would want a PS vita more than a PS4 but something smells good about the PS4 though, a surprise smell, haha.

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I can't imagine what does PS4 need. I can understand USB 3.0 and more RAM for developers.

I'm more excited over PS Vita + PS3 connectivity.

5th Day without PS3.

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"In my opinion i believe EA will never want a new console any time soon as long as they keep milking their customers dry on this current generation.Until They start losing money they will probably state wacky articles begging for new consoles, about as wacky as they are in the BF3 vs MW3 "war".

And I agree with EA. Why? To simpily put it games are still too expensive to make and its not getting any cheaper

With all of that mind why do we need another console when developers are currently still bleeding. And for the record, EA doing bad financially since their market-cap have been reduced and their profits are failing to hit target.

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EA has of late released excellent multiplatform titles and has used the PS3 as lead platform on several occasions. EA doesn't see the need for a new console. I do not see this as coincidence.

Keeping that in mind, Sony's recent statement about the PS4 coupled with the Sony-centric developers still feeling like they can push the PS3 tells me one thing.

The issue is squarely on the shoulders of 360 developers and old PC studio houses.

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I completely agree Max...your move Microsoft! :P

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"When they think they can afford to come out with a new platform" is the key I believe.

Even though Sony supports their old platforms like they do with PS2, in a way you are leaving behind your original investment because it shifts public fascination away from it and media coverage of PS3 would sink. I fully expect MS to ditch 360 the same way they ditched the xbox1.

In both cases it's a matter of weighing the risk associated with announcing a new console and I think it will be too risky for profit margins for a couple years now, meaning 2.

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Highlander!!!! I have a direct request for you. Should you choose to accept, what do you think of Carmack's request for the next generation of console from your technical standpoint? Is it sound? Reasonable? Helpful? Not helpful?

http://beefjack.com/news/john-carmacks-next-gen-console-wish-list/

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I would like to add to this World if I may, maybe Highlander can address some of the points herein to :)

One has to remember where Carmack comes from. Watching a recent interview about ID and Carmack's role, one can't help feeling that he is very proud of what he has done for gaming in general.

When you actually think of the buzz games like Wolfenstein created, especially on the then evolving PC platform, which had not seen anything like this before. A software rendered first person perspective in a 3D environment... on 286/386 processors. This was ground breaking at the time! He was onto something, something big, and ID knew it!

In addition, around this time PC's were competing with powerful 32bit home computers like the Amiga and Atari ST platforms (and their powerful custom graphics and sound hardware) battling it out; not to mention the older consoles that could still shift graphics around (with better sound) than a PC could in those days.

Carmack feels proud, rightly so.

He felt Quake was a water shed moment for ID and the PC platform. He was essentially helping to advance PC hardware... gamers were demanding a better and better experience, a more intermate and involving experiencing. When you think Quake was based on software rendering than hardware rendering, it still showed gamers what was possible... and they wanted more!

The essence here is that Carmack felt, historically anyway, his team and himself were on the cutting edge! They were, in a sense, shaping and pushing the market forward. They were showing what was that impossible - possible. Carmack and ID can be proud of what they have done for gaming - inventing a genre and pushing the known hardware of the day to its limits...

So, in my humble opinion, it comes down to the fact that Carmack; who loves challenges, who wants to push the limits of the platform he was developing for, who invented the "Death Match", who was (and probably still is if Rage is anything to go by) on the cutting edge of development and innovation today; probably feels that a new generation of hardware would reinvigorate that "cutting edge" spirit of yesteryear.

I sense some pining when he speaks and I feel that he would like to, in some sense, to "re-live" those days on newer hardware a new generation.

He wants to get back up there, in front of it all. Maybe he feels his influence and star power has slipped over the last 10 years. When you look at the mix of innovative titles we have such at the Sony PS3 exclusives (Uncharted series, GoW, Killzone 2/3 etc) and top quality multi-platform titles like the forthcoming Battlefield 3 one can imagine what he must be thinking personally.

Everything has changed so much since he started it all off back in the day. It is a gamer/developer mid-life crisis for him in a sense.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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theres no need, but it would certainly be interesting.
it will be interesting to see if we find something like intels larabee, a hybrid on next gen systems.
i doubt hybrids will get to the required type of performance by then though, i would expect a very similar architecture layout like what our consoles today have just beefed up.
what will change though is the way we draw graphics, the voxel tech demos been shown are extremely interesting both from a tech side the graphics you can get out of them, the cost effective side there so easy and cheaper to use, and a performance side the tech required to run them smoothly would be greatly reduced.
so we gamers get better games, the developers are happy because they have a easier job, and publishers and manufactures are happy because there saving a whole shed load of cash!

id love to see ray tracing take over instead, but i just cant see hardware advancing that far by the time new consoles are out.
hell my dual 570s heavily OCd run nvidia garage the ray tracing demo and they struggle to hit 30FPS!
thats a freaking demo!
on a PC in a few years time is a stretch, but on consoles theres no freaking way!
id love to see it because the lighting effects, especially light reflection is just amazing!
makes far cry 3 look like a freaking SNES game!

one thing that must go but wont is the stupid time consuming restrictive APIs.
thats one thing every developer is complaining about, and john touched on it quite a few times on his keynote.
DX, openGL, all there doing is restricting developers, holding them back, and holding the hardware back!
we need to scrap them and allow developers to code right down on a hardware level instead of going through software to pretty things up, its just wasting so much time and resources!
id love to see new consoles announced next year!
not that we need them, not that were ready for them, but just simply to see where the big guys think the money is.
which horse would they bet their multi billion dollar company on?
id love to say hybrid tech, but it just has not advanced enough in enough time, and manufactures dont really seem fully behind it they seem hesitant which is a real worry.

what is interesting though is reports are coming out about the ipad 3 releasing early next year.
and there saying its suppose to have MORE juice then the vita!
wow, things in the mobile market just got more interesting!
tegra 3 is really ripping up the market!!!!!!!!!

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