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Same-Sex Marriage An Option In The Elder Scrolls V

Well, New York did it. Why not the new Elder Scrolls?

In games where freedom is key, we should be able to do anything we want. We should be able to marry any eligible bachelor or bachelorette, regardless of our own gender. Right? Well, if you support this idea, you'll like such freedom of choice in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Bethesda vice president of PR and marketing Pete Hines confirmed on his Twitter page that you'll be able to "marry anyone."

"@Jadis232 Not hush hush, just not making a huge deal out of it. You can marry anyone."

He later clarified that we can't technically marry "anyone" (not all NPCs count), but for the most part, gender shouldn't matter. We've heard similar things about Mass Effect 3 and...well, we at PSXE aren't stupid enough to comment on the issue one way or the other. And while it's always a big subject of debate - as it always is in real life - we must ask: please don't get involved in a moral or political debate in the Comments. Please. I just don't have the strength to deal with it.

Related Game(s): The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Tags: elder scrolls v, skyrim, bethesda, skyrim marriages

8/25/2011 9:01:05 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (91 posts)

matt99
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 9:20:22 PM
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I didn't even know there were relationships in skyrim, cool!

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Dreno
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 9:38:15 PM

Likewise, that's a pretty cool add. Atleast relationships might add another type of play to the already amazing sounding game. I.e. if your not into questing or exploring, you can hunker down and provide for a family.

One thing confuses me though, and it could be the way I read it. You can't marry "anyone" (npcs don't count)

So who the hell can you marry or be in a relationship with? Cause isn't your character the only non-npc?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:19:20 PM

I think they mean you can't just marry a nobody beggar on the street that is basically a piece of scenery. I imagine they mean you can romance and marry certain people who have a part in the plot or at least the bigger quests.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:29:13 PM

I'm in this game.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 1:26:04 AM

Me neither! Skyrim just did a good jump up my priority list now.
This is starting to look like a Bioware level game. From bethesda?! Here's hoping!


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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:37:12 AM

Bethesda is gooooood at this kind of thing Beam

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Beamboom
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:51:22 AM

Seriously, World? I've only played Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion from them (I think...), but I did not find much human relations (of any kind) in any of those? It felt like the companions in those games were there for battle strategy only... Much like most other games where you got companions to choose from.



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Fane1024
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 5:46:51 AM

The original "retraction" said (paraphrasing) "not *any* NPC"; Ben just overlooked the adjective.

Forget marriage; I just want to be able to hit NPCs with a healing spell (FFS, stop moving, you idiot!) and give them equipment.

;D

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matt99
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 11:04:58 AM

Regardless of whether you can actually marry anyone or not, I'm just really glad they've upgraded the character interaction side of the game, because that's really where oblivion was lacking.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 3:12:25 PM

ah, well when I said "this kind of thing" I mean RPGs. You sounded like a newb a little there, as far as relationships go yeah I don't see anything they do thats special. But then nobody beats Bioware in this territory so I wouldn't expect that.

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 9:21:34 PM
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Baffles my mindâ„¢.

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Temjin001
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 9:24:06 PM
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Well that's fine and all so as long as those who choose same sex marriage are smitten with a game curse =p

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 9:56:37 PM

My online persona takes offense to this.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:36:17 AM

Skyrim's god shall smite them.

.... or maybe not. I guess you could always break the game and delete god's code from it.

Same sex marriages for all!!!!!

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Temjin001
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 9:34:47 AM

".... or maybe not. I guess you could always break the game and delete god's code from it. "

By the Nine! That's blasphemy.

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TheIllusiveMan
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 1:26:37 PM

STOP! You violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 9:35:49 PM
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No comment

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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:20:48 PM

Writing no comment, is making a comment. There's some irony afoot.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:27:37 PM

::sigh:: It's the internet, I'm allowed to do this.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:34:49 AM

And being the internet, I can go this!!!

*drops pants and sings Pavarotti terribly*

Woooooo!!! Yeah!!!

..... ummmm....

Wow, no where near as effective on an internet chat forum. :(

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TrophyHunter
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 8:03:32 AM

lol Dancemachine55

Things never works the same way ;)

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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:12:07 PM
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One part of me says this is weird and the other part of me agrees.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:15:54 PM

I knew you were a little bi-curious.

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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:21:43 PM

More like a split impersonality.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:51:39 PM

Or an Infinite Undiscovery?

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Claire C
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:04:03 PM

That game wasn't so good.

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Temjin001
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 9:43:32 AM

PorkChop would disagree with you Claire ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 3:13:40 PM

Porkchop has never made a lick of sense.

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Deathb4Dishonor
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 4:29:10 PM

@ Claire

Yea i didn't really think it was all that good

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Underdog15
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:15:27 PM
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Marriage is cool and all in real life... but in the gaming world, why not run around having affairs with anything that walks without any consequences?

Is there an option to just be a roving "player"? I mean... it's not like you ever settle down in one town anyways!

You could get really creative...

"Hey you! I remember you... You were in our village last year! Remember me?" -Cassandra places a 3 month old infant on your lap. "yeah, you owe me 50% of your gold for child support, you SOB!"

Gold grinding just got a whole new meaning. (HA! Triple meaning!!)

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:16:14 PM

Play the Fable series.

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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:24:49 PM

I always thought married people had the same sex, if not it's called adultery.

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Underdog15
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 8:37:35 AM

@LV I played the first. I totally stole thunder's woman, too. And I didn't sign a pre-nup when I took that rich woman either. I also read on forums some people couldn't get her to sleep with them. I totally got her in the virtual sac.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:21:48 PM
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I think it's very decent of them to have this available. If they include some powerful lesbian scenes maybe I'll make my character a woman ;)

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Beamboom
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 1:29:17 AM

Maybe? *Maybe*? ;)



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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:31:23 AM

It's an American game, you won't see anything even if there is lesbianism, homosexuality or even straight sex in the game.

European developers however....

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Underdog15
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 8:38:08 AM

No worries Dancemachine. I'm sure our imaginations are powerful enough.

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hellish_devil
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:23:22 PM
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I don't see why it would be a big deal since it is an option. It is not that you have to do it in order to progress in the game.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:28:40 PM

I think a trophy should have to do with a bunch of dudes and a yummy piece of texas toast.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:52:48 PM

Some folks are SO against gayness they take it as a personal affront or something.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 1:34:43 AM

lol @ lv

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:29:32 AM

I'm just as, if not more offended, by a straight couple French kissing in public compared to a gay couple.

... especially if the girl is incredibly cute!! :P

( sorry, couldn't help myself. :) )

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:40:33 AM

I hate to see a cute girl making out with a douche.

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YashaZz
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 3:34:26 AM

That's what I usually see around where I live.

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Fane1024
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 5:59:08 AM

Platinum requires same-sex activity...that wouldn't fly.

Plus, it turns an option which is a consequence of the "maximum freedom" design into a political statement.

But I like it. **** the bigots who will be uncomfortable.

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Underdog15
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 8:40:25 AM

I have no issues with a hot chick mackin' it up with someone in public...

But as World said... if the guy's an ugly douchebag, I can't help but feel a little sick and incredibly sorry for the poor girl. She must have some insane insecurity issues.

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La_Bete12
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:29:34 PM
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My dad's a pastor. I've been in way too many debates about homosexuality/abortion/creation. The last place I want to debate is on a video game site. :P

Either way, I'm definitely buying this game. GOTY for sure!!! :D

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:32:17 PM

I'm sorry to hear about your father. I was raised southern baptist and my dad is an anti Catholicism author on the side. I feel like I'm Luke Skywalker.

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La_Bete12
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:35:27 PM

Lol, why are you sorry? It was his choice to become a minister. I've actually thought about being one myself, but I've started to lean towards another profession.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:42:57 PM

I'm going to surprise Ben and not continue this conversation as I believe I will end up offending you and most likely turning this into another 300 posts thread with Sham and his zealots after me.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:53:27 PM

Did Shams die?

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La_Bete12
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:57:32 PM

it's alright dude, I'm not easily offended. I'm around atheists and Roman Catholics all the time, if I was offended easily I would be crying in a corner in a fetal position by now. either way, you gotta admit the game is gonna be amazing :D

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:59:00 PM

@World,
I think he had to walk up some huge mountain to pray to a burning bush made out of old cigarette buds so his virgin daughter that's only 13 can marry the 50 year old mayor of his village.

But it's cool, he gets a new goat out of the whole deal.

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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:21:34 PM

LV did you mean to write 'buds', because I've seen those burn before?

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:29:07 PM

tes,

Yes, they do burn...hence the burning bush made out of them...


::edit::

After reading what you wrote again I'm perplexed...I don't understand your comment.


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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:38:16 PM

Buds made me think of {'mary ger warner'(southern pronunciation)}. Butts are the end of a cigarette. A lot of people sit around burning buds so I was confused by what you meant. I accidentally returned the confusion favor.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:42:00 PM

Haha, oh...around here we use the term buds instead of butts for the end of cigarettes. BTW look it up if you don't believe me. Sorta like my friends from Alabama calling all soda down there coke regardless of the flavor.

BTW are you selling?

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tes37
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:49:27 PM

Same thing here in Louisiana. Someone will ask you what kind of coke you want. I have the same phonetic mutation unfortunately.

The only thing I'm selling is bad advice, but it's 100% guaranteed.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:23:01 AM

Skyrim is a video game.

IMO, I think religion should either stay out of video games or be dealt with in a highly sophisticated OR ridiculously hilarious over-the-top manner. That way, religion portrayed in the game is either good, justified and not harmful to others, or it is so hilariously wrong that the silliness of it removes all accountability portrayed.

Hey! It worked for Duke Nukem when dealing with women's rights and equality!! :P

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Underdog15
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 8:55:02 AM

Religion only works in video games when that game creates it's own religion unique to the world of that game. Final Fantasy was good at this. See: Zodiac Brave Story from FFT: The Lifestream reincarnation thing of FF7, Yevon of FFX, to name a few.

Makes it more interesting, anyways, I find!

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Qubex
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:31:23 PM
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Interesting twist... I am not married myself in real-life yet, so I don't think I would want to marry in a game either... anyway, for some who want to experiment good for them :)

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:43:46 PM

I'm surprised you're not married, you're a sweetheart!

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Claire C
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:55:46 PM
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I'd be surprised if it wasn't included; this isn't the Dark Ages! :/

GotY, I'm callin it. =D

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:25:45 AM

Somewhere in the world, where video games are still sold but strict religion determines the actions of all, the Dark Ages continue to exist.

In saying that, I am so glad it's not Australia, especially now that we are finally getting an R18+ rating!! :D

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 10:59:13 PM
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Hey who hooked up with who this gen? Here's the World rundown:

Dragon Age Origins (as a man): Bagged Morrigan but then committed to Leliana.

Dragon Age II (as a woman) Bagged Isabella but then committed to Merril.

Mass Effect 2 (as a man): bagged Jack but she wouldn't sleep with my dude again or do any of the nice wifey things I wanted to force her to do.

Fallout New Vegas (as a man): Bagged the sexbot... that I built for a pimp... named Fisto...(so ashamed).

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:16:22 AM

LMAO!!

Never be afraid to experiment, World!!

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Underdog15
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 8:59:29 AM

Bahaha! That's hilarious! XD Made my day!

You are ashamed of the sexbot... Well, In Dragon Age 2, I went after Merrill pretty actively, and also bagged Isabella... but I also... paid for services.... with the chick I thought seemed to be the most attractive in the Rose..... turned out to be a tranny or trans or whatever....

I felt so bad for Hawke... he'd never cast spells quite the same way again....

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 3:16:18 PM

HAHA that's great, damn those trannys! The tranny in Yakuza 4 is funny, they are so blatant with things in Japan I love it.

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Deathb4Dishonor
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 4:40:18 PM

LMAO World

Haven't laughed that hard in a few days.

They also have a rapist tranny that chases u in Yakuza 3... Kinda scarred me bc i went to walmart and saw a dude with a skirt that looked just like the tranny in Yakuza... My first impulse was to run

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Jed
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:45:44 PM
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Oh, god, here comes the idiot news media about another "evil game"

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 11:56:32 PM

I'm still waiting for that RapeLay PS3 port.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 12:10:22 AM

Fox is on? *Runs*

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 12:29:01 AM

I'm a big fan of Bill O'Reilly, I own all his books, and I'd vote for him if he ever ran for President.

I'm liberal when it comes to social matters but 100% republican when it comes to $$$.

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Claire C
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 1:52:19 AM

I really, REALLY hope your joking Mr. Alien. :/

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:15:10 AM

Bill O'Reilly isn't smart.

He's just loud and highly opinionated. This makes him influential to many a wrong crowd.

(sorry if I offended any Bill O'Reilly fans, I just can't stand loud obnoxious people who think they're always right)

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Geobaldi
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 12:58:41 AM
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The Sims 3 has same sex marriage, and they can adopt, so this has been done before.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 1:38:18 AM

It's been done before but let's do it again, shall we? And again. And again. :)

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gray_eagle
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:08:44 AM
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im not against same sex marriage in real life or if its in a game, imo, it just don't seem fitting for a game like this.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 2:11:57 AM
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As one person commented on IGN's comments section:

It is against the law to shoot, stab, decapitate, explode, curb-stomp, melee, or tea-bag a person in reality, yet no one has any problems with allowing you to do it in a video game.

It is against the law (in many places) to marry a partner of the same sex, so why should it be a problem to do in video games?

Violence? Perfectly fine and justifiable!

Same sex marriage? Woah!! Hang on!! Things are getting a little out of control here!!

What if it was justifiable same sex marriage? Say both guys had a shotgun wedding? Their mum or dad holding a shotgun to their back and forcing them in the game? Since it's being forced on the player to complete the act (like shooting enemies dead in FPS' to proceed), would that make it fine? If you were forced into same sex marriage in the game to proceed, would that make it okay?

Wow, Western society really confuses me in so many ways!!!

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___________
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 5:15:32 AM
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eh its a game, so as far as im concerned it can let you marry a goat!
why does this game have marriage in it anyway?
i cant see how it would fit into the story.
eh.

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Deathb4Dishonor
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 4:47:47 PM

I'm pretty sure that if u can do it with goat in a game World would've told us about his adventures by now LoL

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duomaxwell007
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 9:12:18 AM
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umm its says "NPCs dont count" Ok then umm what would you be marrying if not NPCs? last I checked this is a single player game so NPCs would be the only option right?

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Claire C
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 9:22:14 AM

Not 'any' NPC.

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Geobaldi
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 10:03:52 AM
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Too bad the 360 has an exclusive contract for the first two DLC content packs for this one.

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Claire C
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 11:16:45 AM

I read that they're going to focus making a large expansion or 2 vs 5 small dlc packs.

I'm gonna by the GotYE this time next year anyways so I could care less about anything to do with dlc.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 3:17:41 PM

There will be enough play in the main game until DLC comes to PS3.

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Geobaldi
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 5:03:44 PM

I have the PC version already pre-ordered, so all the mods that will be available will keep me more than entertained until the exclusivity runs out for the DLC.

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Ignitus
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 12:37:27 PM
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As I was reading an article earlier today about MS securing exclusivity for the first two DLC packs for Skyrim, I became enraged about it.

I found out later on the article that the exclusivity window is just for only 30 days, no biggie and no worries.

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COD_death
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 10:37:43 AM
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Does anyone real care

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Raze22
Monday, August 29, 2011 @ 4:29:41 PM
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"Please. I just don't have the strength to deal with it." That part made me laugh.

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Kai200X
Monday, August 29, 2011 @ 10:09:20 PM
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It fine with me. I know I want to marry a woman, or a sexy female elf :P

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