Have Trophies/Achievements Made Video Games Better?
Trophies and Achievements are designed to enhance our gaming experience. That's the idea.
They represent specific challenges completed and those who love the feature will say a game's longevity greatly increases. You spend a ton of extra time enjoying the adventure in a variety of ways; many challenges are quite creative and even open up parts of the game you never really enjoyed before.
At the same time, there are those who just don't see the significance. Back in the old days, it was all about points. "High score" was a universal term and in the arcades, that's about all that mattered. Of course, everything is more complex these days; we're talking about interactive entertainment and it's almost an insult to call these products "video games." That means Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception and Pac-Man are technically in the same category, and even for the most ardent purist, that's tough to swallow. So we've moved way beyond "high score."
And yet, aren't Trophies and Achievements just a more elaborate way of keeping score? We count up the number we have and in truth, once they're achieved, it doesn't really matter to anyone what you had to do to get them. Those who don't appreciate this method of "keeping score" - which sort of implies that those who get a ton of these "awards" are bigger or better gamers than others - say that Trophies/Achievements are unnecessary. Worse, they might actually bring an even more unnecessary competitive angle to a game that doesn't need it. Maybe getting some obscure achievement alters our focus and drags us away from the core concepts of the game.
Then there's the whole need for edification thing. "You walked down a hallway...Trophy!" "You completed the tutorial...Trophy!" As if we need a shiny thing to make us feel better about our accomplishments, and then we can brag about how many of those shiny things we have. Do we really need this more complex version of keeping score? Or do you see it differently? Do you feel more satisfied when you hear that little "ding" and you see the notice? I'm just wondering how much this feature has altered how we approach our gaming entertainment.
Tags: trophies, achievements, video games, game culture
9/18/2011 8:27:52 PM Ben Dutka
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:00:33 PM
Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:40:25 AM
leatherface
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 10:36:16 AM
StubbornScorpio
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 9:45:56 PM
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Gabriel013
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:16:19 AM
StubbornScorpio
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:29:51 AM
Neo_Aeon666
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 10:22:49 AM
Those small trophies are just a small encouragement for the players who need it. You probably don't but alot of entry lvl players like the free pat on the back lol.
Trophies are the devs challenges. Like: See if you can master MY game. And then we take the challenge and having 100% is like: Heh I owned your game :P lol Plus now you get to see if your best buddy was able to do as much as you and you compete without even telling each other haha
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Fox hounder
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 9:49:28 PM
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maxpontiac
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:04:28 PM
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:21:37 AM
Riku994
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 9:50:12 PM
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My whole point here is I do like trophies because they give me something to shoot for, they do give a bit of competition to some games, and yes they do add longevity.
ZettaiSeigi
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 9:59:33 PM
sha4dowknight05
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:07:36 PM
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:24:09 AM
Temjin001
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 9:51:39 PM
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On the other hand, I think there'd be another way to do this: logged hours, or something like that.
Whereas, the part of trophies I don't like is the developer generated requisites that must be met in order to get some trophies. Most games have those really retarded time consuming ones that don't serve much more of a purpose other than make itself a chore. Do I have to land 6 head shots in a row with my pistol without reloading to get this silver? I have to finish God of War in 5 hours, or without dying? nah, don't think I care enough to.
So yeah, I don't know. I have some XBL friends who have the most ridiculously high gamer points that I would personally find to be embarrassing to have nearly 80K points. And each time I see scores like that the notion crosses my mind suggesting that this person has some control issues and probably has majorly misdirected priorities.
SoulController
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 7:46:55 AM
I have a work friend who has 49 platinums. Yes you read that right, 49 platinums. Too me thats just ridiculous & says he needs to get out more or something. But who am I to judge, I'm a gaming junky too
Neo_Aeon666
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 10:30:59 AM
So doing it your way would destroy the balance and pretty much kill the bragging rights of alot of trophy addicts lol also probably put an end to my trophy interest XD
You don't have to get that platinum but if you want it... you will work for it :D
On a side note: I will never complete the Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 platinum OMG dood like killing 1000 enemies with every single weapons lol how many playthrough is that XD If I see people with plat for that game I highly respect their tenacity lol
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ZettaiSeigi
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 9:56:32 PM
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So far, the only games I got the platinum trophies for are Assassin's Creed II and Naruto Shippuden: UNS2. That's only because I had a lot of fun playing those games and the trophies were rather easy to get. I almost got the platinum trophy for Heavy Rain but my cousin borrowed it before I could get all the endings and I'm yet to get my copy back.
ZettaiSeigi
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:00:22 PM
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:25:32 AM
sha4dowknight05
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:04:16 PM
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I got 3 platinums right now got 2 of them this year :)
I personally like the trophy noise over the xbox achievements because it sounds better even though xbox achievements load way faster so you don't sit there for a good 5 seconds worrying if you got the trophy or not.
But maybe they do that for a drumroll?
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:27:55 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:08:33 PM
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It's basically a neat reward system to me, but I rarely go out of my way to get them. I have zero platinums but I plan to get the inFamous 2 one some day. The fact is I usually play a game through the SP and then shelf it unless it's something super special to me.
The downside is some old games without trophies don't feel worth playing. I never did beat Oblivion and I'd like to play Heavenly Sword again but without some potential payoff it feels a little empty. I'm sure a lot of people would have added another play of MGS4 if they ever gave it trophies.
Qubex
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:42:14 AM
I like to see the emblems and the artistry of those emblems. I also would love most games to come with a "behind the scenes". Most movies have this, and I think that having a short 5 to 8 minute documentary on how the game was made would be very interesting, even if they are only technical sound bites.
So whilst trophies do motivate people, and in some cases, turn them into trophy whores... I think they are good and can give you the motivation to push you or maybe try a little harder than maybe you would have if that motivation was not there...
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
SoulController
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:10:43 AM
Underdog15
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:46:34 AM
BIGRED15
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:09:47 PM
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I'll also add this, with all the trophies ive earned, I feel like I should have more to show for it than the look of a guy who used to have way too much time on his hands. I have nearly 900 trophies. Shouldnt I be rewarded more than just a simple "ding?" I dunno just food for thought I guess.
PasteNuggs
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:16:05 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:18:58 PM
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Fox hounder
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:22:53 PM
StubbornScorpio
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:24:15 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:32:40 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:37:49 PM
FatherSun
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:13:09 PM
godsdream
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:53:43 AM
BikerSaint
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:11:40 AM
But, if they really have to put 1 top trophy in, then they could add a "Titanium trophy" to the list, which would be for getting the top plat in each of the 2 modes.
As for myself, I never check out the trophy list until after I've finished the game, and I might go back just to try for maybe 1 or 2 more trophies that I think would be "Saint worthy", but that's as far as I'll usually go with them.
I mean, it's nice to keep on hearing those unexpected dings(and yes, I do like hearing them), but in order to go chasing after it, that trophy would have to be something I'd really be interested in doing anyway.
So as it stands, I'll probably never get myself a plat even in a SP mode only game.
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But what I absolutely DO hate about the trophies(and this is aimed squarely at Sony only) is that as a gaming collector, I sample every game that I buy, even the one's that I know I'll never wind up play, just on the off-chance that it may just surprise me & I'll wind up liking it instead.
So now I have more than a few games that I'll never play, yet I've still managed to pick up 1 (and sometimes 2) trophy's for them during my sampling of them. And the same thing goes for a few demo's that I've even picked up a trophy for, but also wound up not liking & so they got deleted too.
And now I keep constantly having to see them in my trophy list and that frigging irks me to no end.
It's like those few games are forever taunting me for not playing them.
Plus it looks my trophy list look like sh!te when I've got a bunch of 1-trophy games popping out at everyone.
So what I think Sony needs to do is give us(or at least myself LOL) an option button to delete those trophies so those damned games can't keep giving my eyeballs a much needed rest from all of their extended middle fingers.
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Gabriel013
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:21:37 AM
Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:38:34 AM
Good idea to have a separate trophy system for online, or better yet, release the game single player on disc or for download and have multiplayer as an optional download from the game's menu. Only once you've got the multiplayer, THEN the online trophies are unlocked and sync with the rest of the game's trophies.
Good idea, right? Mutliplayer as a free download if you buy the game, trophies synced to the MP download, not on disc!! I hope someone out there sees this!!
ZettaiSeigi
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:56:18 AM
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:31:56 AM
Underdog15
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:52:28 AM
Online trophies ruin trophy hunting for me. Same with Uncharted 2. The only trophies I am missing are the online ones. If you MUST have online trophies, they should be relatively simple... like... a trophy for winning a match or for playing a full match. I get developers wanting to encourage people to invest a lot of time into their game, but just get people to sample it. They will play it if it doesn't suck.
Modnation Racers had a terrible reach level 30 trophy. I got it, but I basically cheated to get it just to spite the game. It was the only one I needed.
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Alienange
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:47:49 PM
Qubex
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 11:39:33 PM
Fane1024
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 2:29:50 AM
If one point of trophies is to get people to try different aspects of the game, that should include the online modes...but not, for instance, being in the top 1% of the leaderboards or getting 10,000 kills.
Douchebaguette
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:31:39 PM
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Though I don't overly mind trophies since it shows the long list of game you've played. Sometimes it's funny to be surprised that you've played a certain game quite a while ago and have no recollection of playing it at all or completely forgot about it's existence.
Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:33:34 AM
I hope more developers do that. It's why I love Naughty Dog so much!! :)
CanadianGuy420
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:45:43 PM
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DazeOfWar
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:58:52 PM
CanadianGuy420
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:12:51 PM
AcHiLLiA
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:55:41 PM
DazeOfWar
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 10:55:30 PM
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Now on the PS3 I get what I feel like. If the game is really fun or it's just easy I'll get the platinum. I also like the trophies as they keep a record of the games I've beaten.
maxpontiac
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:03:16 PM
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Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:31:25 AM
Warrior Poet
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:11:43 PM
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Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:30:38 AM
ZettaiSeigi
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:58:36 AM
Killa Tequilla
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:13:41 PM
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Just want to clear out that I only go for platinums in games I enjoy or games that dont take 50+ hours like Fallout. Although I love FIFA and I might get the platinum for that. Usually 100+ hours. But I love soccer so why not?
From my perspective they do make games better and give a game more replay value. At the same time, close to 20 platinums, and games costing 60$, I feel like i got to squeeze the fruit dry. Meaning for the 60$ i payed for i have to get those 60 dollars back by playing the sh*t out of the game and that includes trophies.
Its almost always mandatory for me to plat a game because of what i stated above. But overall do add rplay value.
Sorry for any mistakes, im using an iTouch so bare with me.
FatherSun
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:20:11 PM
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Developers need to think Trophy implementation thru very carefully before publishing. Not just use it to extend the life of their game. Some even get really creative (NOBY NOBY BOY was a collage).
But Trophies do also have a dark-side. The award system is built to lock in your loyalty. That is what it is all about. Creating a community and KEEPING it. I know some who won't touch a PS3 because they are so heavily vested in the BOXes GamerScore. How blindly limiting is that. But to each his own
Wait till the Vita Trophies get here. That will be interesting to keep track of.
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Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:29:20 AM
Trophies and achievements are a double edged sword. It encourages you to play all the game and experience everything it has to offer, but it also takes away from the story and emotion behind the game by focusing on a high score. We no longer live in times of Pac-Man and Space Invaders where stories did not exist in video games.
I wouldn't like it if an achievement or trophy came up during a movie saying "30 minutes watched without pausing or a bathroom break", would ruin the immersion and emotional interest in the movie.
I like to get sucked into games as the lead characters, so would be nice to disable trophies when playing through for the first time while experiencing the story and character development for the first time. (Just realised I can disable the noise and pop-up from the menu, will do that instead, so no more distractions while in the moment)
5TAY3R
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:25:30 PM
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i mean we buy a game to give our heart some sort of joy not to show others how powerful or dedicated gamer i am, its just totally kills the point of video gaming
AcHiLLiA
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:00:37 AM
Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:23:40 AM
I mean, non-gamers would just look at that person as the biggest anti-social, game-obsessed nerd, even though the online or gaming community would celebrate that guy or girl's achievement.
I would much rather boast about a real award or trophy rather than a digital one. It's why I think trophies are good for getting you to play a whole game and enjoy everything the developer put into it, not something to brag about and compare with your friends.
I ended a friendship recently with someone who kept bagging out my achievement score on 360, encouraging me to play more games and get it over 10,000. When I bagged out his trophy score, he said trophies don't matter. I told him that if trophies don't matter, then neither do achievements, so why bother listening to you? He changed the subject. I cut him off.
Life has been better not being forced to get more unnecessary trophies and achievements that friends tried to force me to do. (sorry, ex-friends)
tazdood1199
Sunday, September 18, 2011 @ 11:56:02 PM
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godsdream
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:59:06 AM
tazdood1199
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:58:58 PM
main_event05
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:05:23 AM
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BikerSaint
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:02:19 AM
WTF was that for?
No way a trophy for that should be given out.
To me, it sorely threatens to cheapen up the whole trophy list & it also kind of tells me that the developer is either, super lazy, has no incentive, doesn't care enough, is uninspired, or just burned out & lost their creativity.
Or maybe it could all just be a case of.....
.....all of the above.
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:39:59 AM
godsdream
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:57:53 AM
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Beamboom
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:09:36 AM
Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:16:27 AM
If the online server is down, then you can't get the trophies, so no point bothering.
I just wish there was an option to delete trophy information for games I hired or only tried once and returned. So annoying seeing so many games in my list sitting below 10%. Even more annoying is trying to reach the skill level of the best online player who played that game non-stop just to earn that one trophy!! GAAAAHHHH!!! HATE IT!!
Beamboom
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:26:09 AM
godsdream
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:45:33 AM
I say that some trophies are just too far from logic. They should separate them. Make 2 platinums, or make another system for online trophies.
On a side note, please pray for my now perished launch phat PS3 60 gig model. As an irony, it did his last great actions playing online GT5 with 2 cousins 2 or 3 days ago. I got the red light of dead or that thing. GRRRRRR I hate more online now!!! I'm truly sad, I loved that machine so much, so shiny, chromed details, multimedia stuff, heavy. I guess I'll have to buy a slim now...I don't physically like it :(
Maybe I can take a little forced break from gaming and focus more on my writing... tips are always welcome :)
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Beamboom
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 3:30:14 AM
Often you have to for example play all classes, reach a certain level, use all weapons in a certain way, kill a given mob X times, use a certain tool X times, complete a mission/map with certain requirements, etc.
That too can be said to be "forcing a player to keep playing". And some offline games have *horrible* trophy requirements. I have beaten games where I have not even achieved 50% of the trophies.
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Clamedeus
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 11:08:38 AM
godsdream
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:49:21 PM
main_event05
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:45:59 PM
Dancemachine55
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:13:18 AM
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However, it is a double edged sword, especially if you're a compulsive collector who must own them all.
Take Fable II for example, I am one achievement shy of 100%, but the final achievement is damn near impossible to get without a whole bunch of friends to play online with who have finished the game also. (I'm atalking about the Dollcatcher achievement, do people here know it?)
If some trophies or achievements are too hard, it only frustrates people, however, if they are too easy, people will collect them for an easy high score and then return or trade the game. It must be hard for developers to find that right balance of easy and hard to achieve trophies.
I like them, and the fact that Vita has them too makes me want that device even more!!!
AshT
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:33:35 AM
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 1:38:41 AM
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BikerSaint
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:58:29 AM
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So far, I see that I've picked up 313 trophies, and their break-down comes out to 254 Bronze, 41 Silver, 18 Gold, with zero Platinum's to show for.
But out of all the trophies I do have so far, the # 1 single trophy that I'm most proud of receiving is a Bronze one, and it was the....
"Entering every square kilometer map region of the world" trophy from FarCry2.
Yeah, I was determined to search every damn inch of FC2's open-world(87 hours worth), including that b*tch of a desert where I kept passing out repeatedly from thirst.
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Lawless SXE
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 3:15:27 AM
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What would get me more interested would be unlocking extraneous content based on the trophies that you get, like behind the scenes videos, concept art, extra weapons, extra modes... kind of like what Resistance 3 did. Except not having to buy the content with credits, just unlock them straight up, like Heavenly Sword and how it's based on your score in the level.
Yeah, that'd work.
___________
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 3:46:52 AM
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all they do is add replay value to a game which both annoys and pleases people.
some enjoy striving for trophies, while others hate it.
for me it depends, i like getting the trophies like complete a difficult task, or do something in the shortest time possible.
what i hate is collection trophies.
getting all the shards for infamous, man that was not fun that was torture!
it drove me FREAKING INSANE!
running around for days spamming the L3 button and sitting 2mms away from the screen hoping to spot something.
god, thinking about it just makes me want to hurl my PC out the window!
or getting all the zoni in R&C ACIT, i mean why?
just why!?
its nice having more to do in a game, but sometimes you just want to move on to something else and that feeling oh no i cant move on yet i have to get just one more trohpy till i get the plat.
i spent almost all of november 09 finding all the feathers in AC2, thats literally all i did just find f*cking feathers!
i guess its good in a way because in the quiet months it gives you something to do, but in the busy months its a pain in the a$$ because you just want to move on!
ive given up on trophy hoarding now, if i get it i get it, if i dont im not going to sit there for a week + just to get some stupid electronic symbol!
another thing i HATE about trophies is online trophies.
i thought trophies were suppose to be a display of skill not of having no life!
again back to the collection trophies, how does finding every single hig symbol or intel case in KZ2 display skill?
finishing it on elite now thats skill!
that sh*t was f*cking hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how does spending 8+ hours a day in MP to get into the top 1% for KZ2 display skill?
it does not!
hell, i got the trophy for being in the top 3% and i f*cking suck at KZ2!
trophies should be given for having skill, for doing things hard.
not for sitting on there playing it for 10 hours a day!
ZettaiSeigi
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 4:21:44 AM
___________
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:36:03 AM
i found the blast shards in infamous allot harder though, at least in AC2 you could turn on eagle vision and see them from a really far distance away but with infamous you had to be pretty close for them to show up on the radar.
plus if i remember right there were only 200 feathers compared to infamous 250 shards.
i wish developers would put a scanner in the game that would show you how many were in each area at least that way you know roughly where they are.
i remember i had 2 shards left and i spent days searching 2 islands and turned out they were on the last one.
or at least create a website like criterion did and let us upload our saves onto there and it tells us how many we have and how many in each area we have left.
BIGRED15
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 11:30:27 AM
CrusaderForever
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 7:53:41 AM
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Also, they make you dive into the game in more depth. They can add many hours to a game. However, at the same time some trophies are very difficult to get. I finished RDR at about the 30 hour mark and ended up putting 50 more hours in it to get the platinum. Now that is a ton of time spent on a game that was old school beat.
Ultimately, trophies a great way for developers to make sure people pay their games thoroughly.
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SoulController
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:27:12 AM
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flamefury42
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:31:38 AM
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TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 8:47:31 AM
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Underdog15
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:25:53 AM
Even before trophies, I've always been the type to beat the crap out of a game. Not just beat it. Beat the crap out of it. I want everything. I don't want to miss a single cutscene or conversation, no matter how mundane. I want every item, and I want to know everything there is to know about the game I'm beating the crap out of. When I run around the town, I talk to EVERY NPC before I move on. Sometimes, if I trigger a cutscene that makes me leave an area before I talk to everyone, I'll restart and avoid the cutscene. It's part of the reason I have such a large backlog.
As a result, I've probably played much fewer games than you, as is shown by you having a few hundred more trophies. But when I beat a game, I beat it good and hard. Hence the high ratio of platinums to trophies.
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TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:00:57 PM
Fane1024
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 2:45:02 AM
dante_zero
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:32:45 AM
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My playing habits haven't really changed since ps2 days and i still put alot on time into games wether it be to platinum it or just play the game.
The only down side to the trophys and achievements though is that some people do take it far too seriously. Say for example my friend gets a platinum on a game i'll congratulate them and it's all good. Then there's the people on the net who decide they have a complex and find it nessecary to throw abuse at people with high trophy count's which is really undeserved and uncool. It's this factor that does worry me about these systems but at the end of the day if you've worked hard in a game and got a virtual reward, aslong at you've enjoyed doing it thats all that matters.
Beamboom
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:46:43 AM
Underdog15
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:54:30 AM
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:05:33 PM
godsdream
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:46:19 PM
Crabba
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:08:08 PM
pavlovic
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:40:39 AM
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But a couple of weeks ago I bought Madden and after seeing the trophy list I decided to plat it. Las saturday I did and I didn't have the acomplishment feel as I did with Uncharted 2 or inFamous 2. I haven't played a franchise season on Madden and only focused on the trophies; I feel as if I haven't played the game at all.
And some developers are crazy with the requirements to obtain certain trophies/achievements. There are some as pointless as "Pause the game" and some as ridiculous as "Kill 100,000 enemies".
nogoat23
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 10:48:41 AM
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I love trophies and I hate them. I love them when they add additional challenges that I may not have thought to try. I hate them when my roommate is yelling at me and begging me to GET HIS TROPHIES FOR HIM because I have some that he doesn't have.
He doesn't recognize what's wrong about that...
TrophyHunter
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:11:43 PM
dante_zero
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 12:24:02 PM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 6:37:12 AM
Alienange
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 2:54:19 PM
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Nowadays you have gamers who think their trophy count is a high score too, but OH LOOK AT THAT, you have a zillion Pixar games trophies. You thought maybe no one would notice? That they'd only see your trophy count and think you're awesome sauce? One quick gander at another gamer's trophies tells you all you need to know about how pathetic of a gamer they truly are. Or maybe, just MAYBE, you'll see someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
Crabba
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 9:22:48 PM
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I still think Sony could do *A LOT* more with trophies though. The "Character level" thing is not really seen or used at all. You don't even get a "Ding!" when you gain a new level... You have to manually check with user to see what level you're at and how many trophies you have.
It's also really annoying that you can't remove games you don't intend to play from your trophy list, and have to live with several games with 0% in your list for no reason :(
Fane1024
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 2:49:25 AM
Crabba
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 5:05:39 PM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 12:44:57 AM
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Like giving us some added content, some extra DLC, unlocking stuff, skins, weapons, factoids, related mini-games, behind the scenes facts, avatars & clothing etc for Home, or maybe even unlocking a special artwork gallery, etc. I mean the stuff they could attach to their trophy list could be endless, and mind boggling.
And that way it could very well make getting more trophies. a lot more relevant to the gamers like myself, who usually don't go chasing after them as much.
Just my 2 cents....
Crabba
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 5:07:41 PM
Wendell
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 3:05:51 AM
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Lairfan
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 7:50:49 PM
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The only thing I really hate about trophies are that they don't really give you anything besides a score (like you talked about Ben), and that there are so many crappy grinding trophies that are just unfun and don't add different ways to play the game whatsoever. If devs could get rid of the unfun trophies (because I believe that all trophies should either be fun or based on difficulty, not frustrating or annoying "kill this many" kind of trophies) and give us stuff for earning them (like avatars, in-game extras, you name it), then this system would be a whole lot more relevant than it is now. Oh, and I also hope they someday add a feature to delete trophies for games you hate (I've always wanted to get rid of my Far Cry 2 trophies because I absoutely despise that game, but that's besides the point).
But as it stands, they're nice additions to the games I like, and that's all I can really say right now.
Eangarra
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 10:51:07 AM
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Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 9:25:23 PM
MrAnonymity
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:40:29 PM
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Gravelight
Friday, September 23, 2011 @ 5:22:41 AM
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