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Uncharted Owes A Debt To Titles Like Gears Of War

We consider the Uncharted franchise to be the very best of the generation. But it wouldn't be the series we know today without an outside influence.

According to what former Naughty Dog environment modeler Don Poole told Play, Uncharted was originally supposed to be a "fantasy game." Then, Sony forced them to make the debut effort "more realistic."

It seems the team had something "much more far out" planned, and that included a forest world where people lived underground. Poole said it definitely had "elements of Tolkien" but with gritty shooters like Gears of War getting so much attention, Sony wanted Naughty Dog to adapt. Said Poole:

"Sony kept pushing for a more realistic game in all respects. The market had changed a lot by then. The demographic was older and gritty shooters were really dominating. Sony wanted very much to get into that market share, it pushed all of its developers in this direction.

So the big push from Sony, not just at Naughty Dog but at all of Sony's development companies at the time, was to craft games for PlayStation 3 that were much more realistic. The pressure from Xbox's success with gritty shooters was a very real force on our direction at that time."

Poole went on to say there was a lot of "internal grumbling" about the whole realism thing, because so many of the guys were from the Crash Bandicoot and Jak era, and they complained about the new style. "But alas, it was a losing battle." Ah, but what a way to "lose."

Tags: uncharted, gears of war, shooters, naughty dog

9/21/2011 9:05:56 PM John Shepard

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Comments (65 posts)

Jawknee
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 9:27:39 PM
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Uncharted > Gears of War.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 9:35:21 PM

Strawberry ice cream > Gears of War

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Jed
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:43:05 AM

+10,000 thumbs up

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tayizfire
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:45:48 AM

uncharted and gears are both superb ...i love uncharted's story...and gears of war multiplayer ...if u love tps then u have to love gears no matter what

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___________
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 4:11:55 AM

i should not say this but your insane!
saying uncharted is better then gears is like saying kia is better then ferrari!
gears has put a bigger smile on my face then any other game could dream of!
especially 3, cole is such a cack!

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TrophyHunter
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:31:10 AM

Uncharted > everything

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Zorigo
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:41:40 AM

@______

Dude, why are you here?
I've never seen you do anything but find faults with Sony and their products.

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Oxvial
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:56:50 AM

Gears 3 sp is awful, most uncharismatic characters ever, 8.0 game imo just for the MP.

And luv how IGN protected GeoW3 on the ratings not complaining about the sp, of course if this was a Sony game..it would be different.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 9:07:51 AM

@ Oxvial

Resistance 3 got a glowing review from IGN. And both R3 and GeoW3 got 9s. So, um, no...you're wrong.

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Jawknee
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 9:10:00 AM

"i should not say this but your insane!"

LOL! Pot meet kettle.

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Jdogtoocool
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 9:13:54 AM

@Zorigo
If everyone agreed on everything the comment section would be boring. So don't worry about ______

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___________
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 9:38:34 AM

since when did uninspired characters make a bad game?
in that case uncharted, GOW, resistance, infamous, almost every game this gen is a bad game!
in fact the only game this gen that has done characters so well is portal 2.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 10:08:32 AM

Think about what you just said. Just think about it. Hmm...somethings not quite right, is it?

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Oxvial
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 11:31:19 AM

GeoW3 isn't a bad game I said it was a 8.0 game, just for the MP, the SP sucks.

It isn't a 9.0 game imo.

And lol at blank line. I don't know about resistance but the mc's of those franchises show tons more of charisma in 1 minute than all the GeoW cast in their trilogy.

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BeezleDrop
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 12:11:46 PM

Come on _________,

How can you condone M$ treachery? Over half of all first generation 360's had the rrod, that's incredibly despicable and messed up to do to consumers. What do you have against Sony? You realize it's a miracle your S-box still functions but I wager it sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 12:55:39 PM

@Beezle

Don't get ______ started, he's gonna tell you he's gone through numerous PS3' and all his friends have also.

@________

I don't think you get it. Uncharted has some of the most inspiring, and charismatic characters, with excellent dialogue EVER! Nate is easy to relate to because on one hand he's not some huge buffed out war freak with a chainsaw on the end of his gun, but an AK-47 and a pistol. And on the other he's down to earth and actually encounters relationships with every character in that game wether it be an enemy or a friend. You do not see that type of characterization in video games often.

To me what makes Uncharted so EPIC is the stories, the treasure hunter fascination I have, and seeing an alternate stories unfold. But what really has me loving the franchise are the characters. They relate to eachother and converse in a way that's relatable. You don't get that from games often as I said. Nothing matches Uncharted, nothing. That's my opinion and I'll argue it all day! ;)

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Crabba
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 5:30:42 PM

well said bigrailer, to mr underscore: just mentioning that uncharted would compare to a kia means there's something seriously wrong with you. Claiming that not only Uncharted, but also Resistance and Infamous have uninspired characters really tells anyone with half a brain that you A) never played any of those games or B) couldn't tell a kia from a ferrari in the first place, or C) all of the above. Yeah, I'd put my vote on C.

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Quincho
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 7:12:54 PM

C, final answer.

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sirbob6
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 9:38:36 PM
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I'd like to see their original idea next generation. Sounds like it could be fun.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 10:16:15 PM

Me too, sounds awesome.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 11:56:25 PM

I thought I heard that originally the game was going to take place underwater, maybe something like Bioshocks atmosphere but I don't know. I do know I'm glad it turned out the way it did.

There's plenty of room in the gaming industry for ND to still create something out of that idea. I think they should explore that , at some point.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:56:27 AM

That was reported here a while back bigrailer. I suppose that it moved from that original SF-esque idea to the more fantasy type one in this article to what we know today. Interesting.

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Zorigo
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:44:18 AM

Why next gen?
Why not after U3, make that game, then make U4. Making us wait for soo long for U4 would make us want it sooo much harder.

As long as it doesnt get hyped GT5 style. That game was great yeah, but people made it out to be the second coming of the messiah and i didnt really see that playing it. Fantastic nooo doubt, but it seemed to be missing a certain... something i can put my finger on. Something intangible

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:54:28 AM

I wish that Naughty Dog were a bigger studio in that they could have two projects going on at once (Think Insomniac with Resistance 3 and Ratchet and Clank) so we could see what other ideas they have.

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Crabba
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 5:32:35 PM

jimmyhandsome: Definitely! If there's one studio out there that should expand to be able to work on more than one project at a time, it's Naughty Dog!!

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noodles619
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 10:03:25 PM
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Resident Evil 4

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 10:16:03 PM

What about it?

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Beamboom
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 5:23:36 AM

It came after Resident Evil 3.

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TrophyHunter
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:33:27 AM

Yep, it gets beaten by Uncharted too

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 10:15:48 PM
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Whatever happened it worked, that's the creative process at work. I'm just glad they did things better instead of settling for similar.

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godsman
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 10:31:38 PM
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Already preorder my Uncharted 3 for $48 bucks free shipping and no tax!

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Jed
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:44:10 AM

Where?

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Alienange
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 10:40:33 PM
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That would explain the deluge of exclusive shooters for Sony's machine.

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tayizfire
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:49:37 AM

no skyrim or dark souls ...for goty? @kevin 5

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Kall555
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:59:19 AM

@Tayizfire,

You replied to the wrong guy there champ.

Skyrim & co do look amazing & i can see & appreciate the appeal it will no doubt deliver to it's fans but for me personally i just cannot get into those grinding open world type games. They look rad & are incredibly indepth to explore but it's just not my kind of herbal tea.

To be honest i am more of a fighting game fan than any other genre & if Tekken Tag 2 or Soul Calibur V was coming this year then that would be my GOTY. Tekken Hybrid this year however has me licking my lips even though i played the original TTT back in PS2 launch.

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Lairfan
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 8:29:42 PM

More complaining about Sony shooters Alienange? Don't you like quality, and fun? Because you certainly can't be getting that from the CoD crap you continue to eat year after year.

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JackDillinger89
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 11:09:12 PM
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Well i been playing Gears of war 3 since yesterday and its f-ing badass. Waay better than the last two. Epic did an outstanding job But i know Uncharted 3 will give Gears 3 a run for its money. There both AAA games that show both consoles strengths and are what every console exclusive game should match in terms of quality.

Its no doubt Uncharted series was inspired by gears series but i appreciate the fact Naughty dog kept its originality and did something unique and dynamic by making Uncharted not only a straight action shooter but also platforming and set pieces that make hollywood cry in envy. Trust me im sure microsoft is already itching to develop its own Uncharted clone sometime in the future.

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Kall555
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:45:45 AM

Here here man, it's game of the year for me so far. In fact the 2011 GOTY will be between either Gears 3 or Uncharted 3 imo.

Big fan of both series.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 7:18:15 AM

i saw gears 3 yesterday on my cousin's 360 and i have to admit i was blown away by it.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:52:08 AM

I bought it yesterday as well. I still need to finish resistance 3 but GoW3 is hard to put down.

Uncharted 3 will be good in its own right though. Love both series.

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Crabba
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 5:37:24 PM

From what I've seen Gears of war both looks and plays nothing like Uncharted, it shouldn't even be compared in the same category.

One has great graphics, there other doesn't with boring, all-gray, all-the-time and no detail whatsoever graphics.
One has a great story with fun relatable characters, the other certainly does not.
Just because it's referred to as a 'TPS' doesn't mean it's the same kind of game.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 11:45:47 PM
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I'm sure at that time of development it was frustrating internally for ND, to have Sony pushing for something different than there original vision. But that whole team absolutely adores the franchise and you can tell anytime they talk about it. They absolutely created something special. Favorite games of all time, favorite game character of all time, in Nathan Drake.

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Jed
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:50:34 AM
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Well, I suppose we should be grateful. It did, in fact, give the PS3 the GOTY for the second consecutive year.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 2:01:12 AM
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At least it worked out for them. I like now that Sony have sort of relaxed that, considering that they've allowed the creation of Sly 4. On the other hand, the very idea could be damaging in that it becomes the norm, which really isn't a good thing, IMO.

I'd like to see a resurgence of less serious games, because they're starting to bore me. Of course, Uncharted does have a sense of humour so it's cool.

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Jakintosh
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 10:44:21 AM

Yeah, I've noticed that this generation of games have almost lost their "fun". My dorm neighbor only brought his PS2, so he has all these random games that are just silly fun, and I had a blast playing with him. I came back to my room and decided I just wanted to play a fun game... between resistance, mass effect, bioshock, GT5, etc, the only "fun" game I really have would be LBP2.

So once again, it looks like it's Microsofts fault (and Sony's for following along) for ruining a part of the game industry.

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Lairfan
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 8:34:47 PM

You know, I remember when people complained that game's stories weren't developed enough, and weren't serious enough. Now everyone complains they're too serious. When they go back to being "silly and fun", people will just complain again.

Right now we've got a good combination going with serious and fun, IMO. Don't take that away and ask devs to make more pointless "party" games that are only memorable for the fun, not for the entire full experience.

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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 3:00:21 AM
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In short hand articles it can sound a bit like Sony baring down on studios but in the end Sony seem to have creative minds themselves and actually add to the creative process not shackle and damage it so I'm cool with this. ND obviously took on their suggestions with relish and have a great working relationship, the door goes both ways unlike other companies.

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___________
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 4:14:31 AM
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not much changed really the story is still as fantasy as you can get!
i was really surprised though to see them going in a new direction, i can see why allot of the guys would of been upset.
i wish ND would go back to their cartoon character roots!
the original crash is still to this day the best game ever released!
i wish they could recreate that with a new franchise, give us a new mascot!

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TrophyHunter
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 8:38:47 AM

I think the sackboy is the mascot this generation.

Of course, I wouldn't mind another crash like game.

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___________
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 9:39:11 AM

really?
thats what you want representing the "core" system?
come on, this is not freaking nintendo!

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TrophyHunter
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 12:23:02 PM

Well I do prefer a sackboy representing the PS3 than a crack-addict-masive-arms-dude ala Gears of Wars. Why??, because my son likes it and I like it too and if you don't thats no my problem.

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FlyingKickPunch
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 2:52:48 PM

Hyperbole is the best thing EVER!

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Kall555
Friday, September 23, 2011 @ 1:35:13 AM

Lol@ sackboy for mascot of the generation.

I don't want little wool men representing my hobby thanks.

What a f4rking insult! XD

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Lairfan
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 8:37:06 PM

blankey, how the hell can you say Crash Bandicoot is the best game ever (which you've said for a lot of other games btw), then criticize someone for saying Sony's mascot should be another well-liked Sony cartoon-game character? Are you freaking bipolar or something?

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BeezleDrop
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 12:12:53 PM
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Que pasa PSX it's been awhile,

Uncharted 2 is one of the best action/adventure TPS I have ever played, amazing in every aspect. Now gears 1-3, not so much. Gears 2 had enough pop-in for a decade and I'm convinced Gears 3 received such great reviews because it's the Only exclusive M$ has to offer this year. 1 game which is pathetic, I rented g3 yesterday and have been nit picking the game since I started it, frame-rate drops in cutscenes, not as much "polish" as everyone states, Epic still has low-res textures on the character models, still!

If your enjoying it that's great but it's not hooking me, I really only rented it for Horde 2.0
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Kall555
Friday, September 23, 2011 @ 1:54:55 AM

"Epic still has low res textures on the character models, still!"

What the?

Um, no they don't, in fact the character textures are absolutely superb as is the environmental texture work. Granted, at times before a mission starts the characters don't res straight away which also happened in Gears 1 & 2, it's annoying at first but it doesn't last long enough to warrant a cheap diss or petty whinge. Try & play the game with your eyes open, that may help. If you don't like the game then fair enough, i'm cool with opinions however dodgy they may seem or come across but don't talk through your arse either, it's not healthy & your breath begins to smell.

Also, it got good reviews because it's the only 360 exclusive? Are you having a laugh? It got good reviews because it's a high quality game with top class multiplayer, "u mad?". Time to take off those fanboy tinted shades methinks before the stench of bigotry becomes too obvious.

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Lairfan
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 8:39:47 PM

Jeez Kevin5, you seem to be a fanboy yourself, just on the opposite end of the argument. Take a chill man.

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clockwyzebkny
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 1:49:13 PM
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I've had every Gears except for GOW3. I don't plan on buying another 360. (It would have been my third) The GOW series is very good Definitely the best 360 exclusive but the Uncharted series is in a league of it's own.
Naughty Dog borrowed from GOW, Tomb Raider, Natonal Treasure and the Indiana Jones movies. But it's a great series all on it's own

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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 3:02:21 PM
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I'm glad they made the change. UC2 is the best console game I've played this generation (and one of the best all time) and I'm sure UC3 will give me the same experience, if not a better one.

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BIGRED15
Thursday, September 22, 2011 @ 7:08:26 PM
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@ ___________

Do u have the slightest clue as to what makes a sound story? Do you? If u were to ask a college English professor to play uncharted and gears of war consecutively which narrative would they choose? A solid story can be found in gears sure but to say uncharted is on the exact level on those games with some of the more shallow narratives? U have to be outta ur f****n mind! I played gears 2 and read up on the other installments and while it has its bright spots its not nearly as sound as uncharted

U also mentioned uncharteds characters being unrelatable. It's like u don't know what unrelatable means but ur using it out of context to make yourself sound intelligent. Why are the uncharted characters relatable? Drake is an average Joe like you or I who has very human quirks, makes very human mistakes and simply acts like a normal human being. You may not be able to relate to him for the simple reason that u just don't want to and its obvious your bias against Sony clouds your judgement. These are why these characters are easy to relate to. More so than gears. The characters in that game just simply cant fit the mold of a normal human being. They are hardened soldiers

You also mentioned gow is to uncharted as Ferrari is to a kia. A more appropriate analogy would be uncharted is to gow as a ferrari F1 is to a bugatti veyron 16.4. Both are great cars, one just has the pedigree of being higher performance. Oh and don't try to bring cars into the equation especially while I'm around because you WILL loose.

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Crabba
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 5:45:41 PM

I'd say Gears is more like a Mustang in that case, it's cheap, vulgar and tries to sell itself as a high-class car, but in the end it's still just another crappy Ford, with no real performance to speak of.

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Lairfan
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 8:49:44 PM

BIGRED15, blankey only hates Uncharted's story because he thinks, since it imitates the style of good Hollywood blockbusters (like Indiana Jones), that its bad. I'm also pretty sure the word "blockbuster" to him means "evil."

You'll see him agreeing with that lotusflow3r guy all the time about how blockbusters aren't a good form of storytelling (which is crap if you know what you're doing, like Naughty Dog does) because they're not cynical/don't have a message/have explosions. Although when there's cheesy, blockbuster-ly elements to other games' stories (like Gears of War and Driver: San Francisco) he lets that fly and says its adds to the fun of the game.

But hey man, don't let him bother you so much. He's been an ignorant prick since he joined the website, and I doubt reason and sense is going to change his bipolar opinions. And if you ask me, I'll bet you he does this because he likes all the angry responses he gets too. So don't feed the troll, just leave him be and thumbs him down.

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ImaginaryTurtle
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 3:58:09 PM
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I love Uncharted games, the stories are always good and the multiplayer is one of my favorite multiplayers of any game. I don't like multiplayer well but the co-op is what I'm into. Gears of War has the shortest story ever but it's fun to play with someone else, playing alone gets quite boring. Uncharted games are fun to play alone and together. I don't know why Resistance 3 got into the mix I've only ever played Resistance 1 and I just thought it was terrible, the gameplay seemed simple enough to be on ps2 so it's a good split-screen game for when you're bored but thats about it for me. Uncharted is and probably always will be my favorite PS3 series right above infamous.

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Lairfan
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 8:54:13 PM
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Well, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm glad a publisher messed with a dev team's creative vision for once.

However, maybe after U3 Naughty Dog should go and make this concept a game. It sure as hell sounds interesting.

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yankees6418
Sunday, October 02, 2011 @ 8:40:51 PM
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Uncharted 3 is a month away and I can't wait. I wish ND would make another JAK game from the PS2 days, because those guys were fun

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