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Will PlayStation Ever Be Back On Top?

For the record, I'm only referring to sales. Last generation, nothing was even remotely close to the PS2.

In terms of what the PlayStation 3 platform offers, I firmly believe it's on top. Between the free Network, Blu-Ray, solid reliability, a controller I prefer, and an unassailable list of software, the PS3 remains my system of choice. I imagine many PS3 owners feel the same way; just want to clarify that in regards to quality and consumer appeal, nothing tops PlayStation right now.

The question in the headline only asks if Sony can ever reclaim the top worldwide sales spot. We may never see another PS2; in fact, I don't think any manufacturer will dominate like that ever again. But can the PS3 eventually top the Xbox 360 in the total sales count? Sony has definitely narrowed the gap over the years, especially in regards to most every region on earth outside of the US. Or will we have to wait until the PS4? And when that arrives, will it top Microsoft's next effort? And the Wii U or whatever Nintendo happens to have at the time?

If Sony launches after everyone else again, it seems unlikely. Some believe Microsoft wouldn't have the lead it has if it hadn't released a year ahead of the PS3. And what about the PlayStation Vita? Will that help put the PlayStation brand at the top of the sales charts, or will it be all DS all the time? I don't have answers to these questions; I'm merely asking them. ;)

Tags: playstation, ps3, playstation 3, sony, playstation sales

9/26/2011 9:09:27 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (67 posts)

PasteNuggs
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 9:32:46 PM
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Here's how I look at it. Its the Nintendo vs. Sega of this time. Microsoft comes out with a few consoles does really well but then fall flat and we end up with Halo on the Playstation.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:50:08 AM

HA!!! If only!

As great as that would be, MS' games division has the financial backing of all of Microsoft, meaning it can be a massive black hole for them, but so long as they dominate the competition, they won't care.

As long as there are third party developers who support Sony and so long as Sony have an open platform and offer complete artistic freedom to developers, Sony will never fail.

They have a smart long-term strategy, and PS3 is proof.

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Axe99
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:26:57 PM

@Dancemachine - While MS has very deep pockets, they've also got shareholders, who'll demand return on capital. Those shareholders will understand MS' core business strategy (establish near monopoly then extract rents), but if they're not achieving it, which they're not with the 360, then it's just throwing the shareholders' money down the drain. All those studio closures from MS a couple of years ago will have been them trying to appease shareholders.

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Jalex
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 9:33:52 PM
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I think there are simply too many variables.
Last generation, nobody would have predicted that the Wii would become the extremely popular fad it has, and you probably would have been laughed out of the conversation if you said you thought the next Xbox would outsell the next PlayStation (even though the latter is really a technicality).
Here's to hoping, though.

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Nas Is Like
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 9:35:45 PM
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Timing is key. PS3 came out at a later time than the competition, plus had a high price point (even though it was justified) and as a result, sales weren't as good by comparison.

In other words, I doubt Playstation will ever be back on top, but I'm hoping it is.

Sales wise, I don't care, but personally, Playstation will always be on top to me.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:53:19 AM

Love that comment.

I feel the same way. Doesn't matter if Sony's overall console sales are lower than 360 or Wii, PS3 is still number 1 to me.

Damn you Xbox Live, faulty hardware and free 360 giveaways skewing 360 sales numbers!!!!

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godsman
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 6:59:42 AM

@Dancemachine,

I understand. It's reasonable when Sony gives a free PS3, back then when they sell them bundled with an HDTV. It makes sense.

Makes absolutely no sense when Microsoft gives out a free Xbox with purchase of Laptop. That promotion is still going on. What does laptop have to do with gaming machine?! You have a laptop, you play PC games already.

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tes37
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 9:56:27 PM
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I think Sony will have greater success with the ps3 after releasing the ps4, than MS or Nintendo will have with their respective consoles. I think it's possible Sony could pull ahead, but it could take until next gen to actually see it happen.

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godsman
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 9:58:37 PM
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PS3 lagged in sales due to the high price point in the beginning. Microsoft at the same time throws billions into the gaming market to advertise Xbox as being just as good as PS3, in terms of games and hardware quality. The PS3 is actually giving the Xbox a boost in sales because the general public believed they are equal.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:55:13 AM

godsman....

You just blew my mind with that comment!! :)

Did not ever see 360 as advertising itself as a PS3 equal, therefore complimenting the PS3 even moreso.

I wonder if the sheeples will ever realize this?

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godsman
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 7:09:29 AM

Us gamers know the differences in hardware, but imagine a soccer mom or 10-year old sees both PS3 and Xbox on a shelf. They look at the library and then looks at the advertisement. They will believe both are the same.

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Qubex
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:00:23 PM
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M$ has built up strong momentum now. With US gamers accounting for a good portion of the active gamer market worldwide, and seeing the support the platform gets at home; I think it will be difficult for Sony to have the same competitive advantage they once had.

The world has changed, gone mobile, and the gaming landscape will continue to change quickly and drastically in the coming years.

Sony has to strike the right balance between raw power and price. Value add features are important, but so is how the games are consumed in the long term, their pricing model and whether or not consumers feel their hobby is just becoming too expensive to support.

In-fact the hardware is one thing, but the actual services and games these companies provide, is another. It is not a hard sell anymore; it is more to do with the "soft sell"; meaning the software and services need to be tightly combined and fully integrated across the spectrum of entertainment media in the market today. This has already occurred somewhat, however platform ecosystems continue to evolve along this tract.

We will always have the hard core gamer... the hard core PC gamer and the hard core console gamer - wanting the latest hardware, fastest GPU's and gigabytes of memory... but in the end, this niche market cannot support the wider market alone. The longevity and health of the entire industry, as a whole, has to encompass the cheaper "on-the-go" social aspects of gaming that are challenging the core of gaming as it stands.

Sony will need a balanced approach and develop a strategy that covers all the basis, while keeping their core gamers happy with decent hardware and innovative products - such as, for example, the newly unveiled head mounted display...

The biggest shadow that hangs collectively over the industry is the economy, and the "cost of entry" to new products and games.

Prices have to be reasonable, including a fair DLC policy, in order to keep gamers from not feeling they are being ripped off. Quality has to be sustained and improved over time, and gamers need to feel they are always using their hard earned dollar to buy "value", rather than a "cheap" and poorly executed experience that leaves a bitter taste in ones mouth.

Sony will need a mix of strategies to make the most of their broad I.P. properties and platforms that are powerful, yet reasonably priced, to ease the cost of entry for the masses. It is a difficult mix to get right!

A critical component of the Sony "mix" is the exclusive game. Strong I.P's are a huge boon to the Sony platform... if supported by the fans!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 12:56:05 AM

The thing that sucks is that their is always going to be a group out there that will care more about money.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 5:01:54 AM

Unfortunately, owning all 3 consoles, I've found Xbox Live's service to be faster, smoother and lag free than PSN's.

Sony have the content, they just need that perfect service that doesn't lag, has fast download speeds and is easy to access. So far they've got the easy access part down well, but the lag is quite terrible. Even watching film trailers on PSN lags, throwing the sound and picture timing off. I rarely have this problem with Live though.

Like I said, I love PSN and I think it has the best content, but as for speed and smoothness of its streaming services, well... Live has it beat there.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 1:10:57 PM

I've never had any problems streaming a video once i got it. It worked fine, and viewing previews of movies and games as well.

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Twistedfloyd
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:01:28 PM
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I think there's a shot. I don't think too many people are pumped about the Wii U (I know I'm not interested), I think the only thing standing in the way is Microsoft and Apple.

I think Apple is taking away a lot of the people that would have played console games in the future, and that will have an impact on the industry.

I think Nintendo's going to take a hit and the Vita will surpass the 3DS. I think Iphones and Ipods will continue to dominate though.

Sony definitely has the best bang for my buck. High quality exclusive titles that are diverse.

Where else are you going to play dramatic cinematic masterpieces like MGS4 and Heavy Rain?

Where else are you going to be able to create your own worlds and have a great platformer to boot like in LBP and LBP 2?

Where else are you going to get the best adventure experience you can possibly get in Uncharted 2 and presumably Uncharted 3?

Where else are you going to get a top notch super hero game in InFamous and inFAmous 2 (other than Arkham Asylum and presumably AA), but I mean like a real original super hero game?

Also where else are you going to get the most brutal RPG I've ever played with incredible game design like Demon Souls?

Also two really solid FPS franchises in Resistance and Killzone.

And the definitive baseball experience in MLB the Show.

Unique experiences like Flower and hopefully The Last Guardian.

The king of car combat and fun in Twisted Metal.

I'm sure there are even more I missed. GT and Ratchet as well.

No other system has this much quality and diversity in terms of exclusives that they publish except for Sony.

There's something for everyone, and that's why Sony's always got me hooked.

I respect and like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer. But there's no depth really. Nintendo is set for the most part with its platformers, Microsoft with its shooters. Sony tries to tap all the markets and delivers a diverse experience.

Will they ever get back to the top? I don't know. What's important is that they launch PS4 with games like they're doing with the Vita.

I think though that PS3 will eventually overtake 360 because Microsoft will pull it off the market in two years or so. I don't see the PS3 being pulled for the next five-7 years. Maybe longer. Look at the PS2! 11 years and still selling millions (if incredibly smaller) of units.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 5:14:10 AM

To me, the PS3 is used for everything except Dance Central and Kinect games at parties.

If PS4 had some sort of 2 lens camera for 3D photos, videos and gaming with body tracking, then there would be no reason to own a 360 at all.

Shame Cliff isn't bringing Gears to a Sony platform. It's the only great game I play on 360.

For parties, Rock Band, Singstar, Buzz, Motorstorm and Littlebig Planet.

For hardcore gaming, Demon's Souls, MGS4, Uncharted, Infamous and God of War.

For shooters, CoD, Battlefield 3, Killzone and Resistance.

For Kids, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar The Wiggles, Modnation Racers and Littlebig Planet.

For innovation, Heavy Rain, Demon's Souls, LA Noire, Dust 514 and Vita.

I'm sure I could make a list for 360 as well, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as long. :D

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Stabs88
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 1:32:47 PM

Take Rock Band off that party list and put on RockSmith. I think its gonna dominate just like Rock Band/Guitar Hero use to.

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Warrior Poet
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:35:46 PM

I agree with the 360 being all shooters, but the Wii all platformers? No way. We're forgetting the most important Wii games: Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, Prime 3, TvC, Brawl...and then there are some great platformers like Galaxy and Donkey Kong :). And let's not forget Xenoblade, Sin and Punishment...hm...

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Snaaaake
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:04:21 PM
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If Sony learnt their lesson with the PS3 which I'm sure they did, the PS4 will be the dominant console next generation.
They dominated the industry the moment they stepped, arrogance got over them so they messed up initially.

The PS3 bouncing back means the PS4 can be on top.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:46:34 AM

Looking back at Sony's old PS3 commercials and sloppy sales strategies, they were incredibly arrogant in 2006. Who wouldn't be after selling 100 million consoles and dominating an entire market!!!

This is why I can't wait for Vita and PS4. No doubt Sony will be much smarter and more humble with the PS4 and Vita when they launch.

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shadowpal2
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 11:32:15 AM

Yep, they were quite arrogant indeed.

But who wouldn't be after such a successful generation with the PS2. I mean god damn...the PS2 was just the KING of all consoles. It still is in my opinion. It has the largest library of any game console out there, is damn cheap, can be used as a DVD player, had GREAT GAMES, and is an ACTUAL SLIM CONSOLE. I mean just look at that thing.

They probably won't catch up to the Xbox 360...but being 1.8 million consoles behind is quite impressive considering the 360 came out a year before.

They definitely learned a lot from the Playstation 3's failed start. RULE #1: GET FANTASTIC LAUNCH GAMES! RULE #2: GET EVEN MORE AWESOME EXCLUSIVE GAMES! After you've completed those rules, don't worry about other stuff such as video playback, music, photos, and whatnot...because we BUY CONSOLES...TO PLAY GAMES.

WE HAVE A LAPTOP/PC/MAC TO SURF THE WEB, PLAY VIDEOS, LOOK AT OUR PHOTOS, AND SO ON. FIRST FOCUS ON GAMES, then you can worry about multimedia functionality.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 29, 2011 @ 8:28:18 PM

I'd love to hear you guys explain how this arrogance you think was on display, was on display. If you want arrogant, how about a software company that decides to buy it's way into the console business at the cost of billions, and then claims to lead the console world? That could be described as arrogant?

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Karosso
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:17:12 PM
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Yes, it will out-sale both the Wii and Xbox360 in the long run. If history repeats itself and both MS and Ninty drop their current consoles like a sack of rotten cabbage, like they did last gen, the PS3 will easily surpass them both. I bet this is exactly what is going to happen.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:39:12 AM

You may have something there Karosso.

Zelda Skyward Sword is the last hurrah from Nintendo regarding the Wii, and Kinect games along with Halo 4 are the only big name exclusives left on 360.

Sure, Uncharted 3 is the final of the trilogy, God of War 3 is the end of that trilogy, but we still have a possible Infamous 3 to expect, Dust 514, Twisted Metal, Last Guardian and Vita to come from Sony.

It seriously feels like all other companies are slowing down in 2012 except Sony!! Wii U might be big, but without a big name launch title, it ain't gonna be a massive seller. 360 only has Halo 4 next year!! That's it!!

All the big games of 2012 are multiplat!! With Sony having the only big exclusives (except Halo 4), along with its latest big price drop, it just feels right for everyone to jump to Sony's ship over the next 12 months.

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frylock25
Wednesday, September 28, 2011 @ 1:14:51 AM

Naughty Dog stated they do not plan to end uncharted with number 3.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:25:33 PM
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If MS sticks to goofing around with Kinect we could see it happen this gen, but that depends on how long it really takes for the next gen to come out.

It's far more likely it will take till next gen, now that 360 is down to a few exclusives Sony could have the upper hand with what they've built this gen. It's unfortunate they had to "build" anything though, you'd think competing against a machine that can barely run wouldn't be that hard but in the end they had to compete with Microsoft's unlimited money and it's hard to win against that.

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PasteNuggs
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 11:19:15 PM

The only thing I see wrong with the exclusive argument it that casual gamers don't know of all the great games the could be playing and instead are sheep for COD on 360

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:31:46 AM

Don't forget all those Kinect demos all over shopping malls and on TV. If it weren't for Gears 3, Forza 4, Halo 4 and Kinect, 360 would quite literally have nothing to go up against the PS3!!

With Epic now going multiplat, PSN improved to near-Live quality for free (minus party chat) and Kinect slowing down to a near halt in sales lately, it sppears MS really have to pull something special out of their sleeves to remain relevant in this industry.

If MS rush their next Xbox again, I will refuse to buy it even if all my sheep friends get one simply for Halo. How long can MS keep milking it? Seriously!!!

It'll be interesting to see what the next big MS exclusive is. Since buying exclusivity is failing this year, they need to create their own exclusive content, to which they have Xbox Live unknown little titles, Halo and Forza. Yeah, good luck with that MS.

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Riku994
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:38:04 PM
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To be fair, the PS3 launched 2 days before the Wii... At least in Canada ;P

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CheddarClyde
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:46:35 PM
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I find myself agreeing with what some analysts said back in 2006/2007; the PS3 will end up winning this generation but not by the HUGE margin the PS2 did last gen. This is based on one undeniable fact; Sony will continue to support the PS3 long after the PS4, the Wii U and the next X-Box have been released. Hell, the PS2 is still being bought 11 years after it's release. Microsoft and Nintendo will more than likely stop supporting their current gen consoles once their new ones are released (Nintendo is kind of doing that now and the sales are showing it). Support of the 360 is being scaled back significantly in Japan and they've fallen to 3rd in Europe, leaving the US the only territory they have left.

What worries me however, is next gen. Some of Sony's dev teams have said that they haven't max out the PS3 yet and that there is still a great deal more they could do with the tech. This makes me wonder if Sony will stick with the PS3 as their flagship console for another couple of years, allowing MS and Nintendo to gain a head start on them and run the risk of playing catchup again or will they put the PS4 out at the same time as the competition, leaving the PS3 before its raw power could be tapped completely and potentially pissing off developers who now have to learn the new hotness. It is a tough decision to say the least.

In a perfect world, Sony would just stick with the PS3 for this gen AND next gen. The Wii U isn't any more powerful than the PS3 and they could develop a firmware that could potentially allow the system to perform on par with Microsoft's next console. Even if they couldn't, the PS2 was way less powerful than the original X-Bos last gen and Sony still won. With the way the economy is, I'm sure dev teams and gamers would appreciate not having to come up off of more money for the new tech.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:17:20 AM

FIFA 12 is getting a PS2 release. What does THAT tell you about the popularity of the PS2!?!?

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SoulController
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 10:55:41 PM
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I think the PS3 will catch up to MS before this Gen is said and done. Once the PS4 comes out, as long as the price is right, hopefully things will get back to the PS2 era. Sony needs to be more aggressive in advertising and informing the public on their superior hardware.

Nintendo & MS cant compete with Sony's exclusives, especially now with Sony owning many Studios producing today's best games

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maxpontiac
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 11:27:55 PM
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Sony is going to 'win' the HD console market from a worldwide standpoint, so if my fellow Americans go the way of the 360, oh well.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:23:51 AM

Only problem is, with online gaming and multiplayer, many people with go with what is cheap and what their friends have.

If MS release the next Xbox at the end of next year or early 2013 with full backwards compatibility and cheaper parts and cheaper Xbox Live options well before the PS4 is released, we may see another Xbox-oriented shooter twitch-fest generation with quality single player games going the way of the dodo.

I just hope Sony know what they're doing with next gen. I hate being forced to buy multiplat games on 360 just to play with friends when the majority of my game collection is on PS3.

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CheddarClyde
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 8:40:28 AM

I have to wonder how much longer the popularity of shooters will last. FPS's are like any other genre of gaming; they have their periods of uber-popularity for a number of years (like fighting games in the 90's) and then they fall from the public eye. Like fighting games, they are still made, but they just don't bring in the kind of money they do when they were at their peak. If/when this happens, what will this mean for Microsoft?

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Ignitus
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 12:01:06 AM
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Yes, I'm sure SONY will dominate again. After the humble pill that SONY needed after the PS2 success and the PS3 mess, I think SONY has learned some lessons that will no doubt really make the PS4 a must have gaming console, hopefully like the PS2.

The good thing is we will eventually find out in a few years.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:18:45 AM

A few years!?!?!?

But I want it now!!!! ;P

(Homer Simpson quote, don't actually want the PS4 now since the PS3 is still yet to reach its limit)

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 12:39:09 AM
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The thing that was holding back was the expensive price tag, $600 bucks. As us consumers not a whole alot of people r going to shell out that much, considering the game lineup was not that big.

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 12:47:03 AM

Why r people so loyal to M$?

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 1:51:22 AM
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Since the 360 had a year head start over the PS3, I don't think the slightly lesser total sales figures mean much. It really can't be judged until both systems are officially discontinued (or one, if already the lower-selling system). I still consider the Wii its own market.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 2:34:42 AM
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What I am asking myself is, "what if a new unknown is thrown into the equation"? What if Apple decide to create a console?

Not very likely? Sure, but the same could be said about Apple starting to make phones a few years ago. Or even Microsoft creating a games console.

I am no Apple fan, far from it, but there's no denying that they've totally dominated the direction of development on the computing and mobile market. And the difference between a PC and a console is only narrowing down.

So what would happen if Apple start thinking, "hmm there's money to be made on the home entertainment segment" and decide to create a console?

In my opinion that would be much more of a threat to Sony than Microsoft ever was.

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___________
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 3:57:56 AM

theres no way apple will ever release a console!
whos going to make the games for them?
getting multiplats will be easy, but whos going to make exclusives for them?
not to mention apple are notoriously restrictive on what they let onto their devices, look at the iphone and ipad.
no one likes that, they like to be able to install whatever they want not whatever the manufacture wants you to install!
they have far too many restrictions and no one to make the games for them.
to me seeing a apple console is just about as likely as seeing kratos on the 360.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:13:58 AM

Indeed, look at the iphone and ipad. I don't see them having trouble in getting devs creating apps for them there... In fact, they've already sailed up to be considered by most games developers and hardware manufacturers as a gaming platform to be taken seriously.

Licenced games on their mobile devices has given them a good revenue and done wonders for their market share. In many ways Apple already is a games hardware manufacturer.

You should not rule out the possibility that they would want to build on this and expand to stationary gaming devices too. And if so...

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___________
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 10:19:37 AM

you do realize that 99% of the games on IOS are a multiplatforms or b done exclusively by developers who only do mobile games right?
developing a mobile game exclusive for apple is one thing, on a exclusive console is a whole other kettle of fish!
i just cant see developers willing to do that, the cost is far too high to create a AAA competitive console games these days and theres a minuscule chance they will ever see even half of their investment back!
not to mention the restrictiveness of apples traditions which will make no one want to own their console.
only reason i want to get rid of my iphone and ipad is because its so god dam restrictive!
its my bloody product, i paid for it so i should be able to install whatever the hell i want!
ringtones for example, why the &^%$ do i have to pay for a song that i already paid for again this time off itunes if i want it as a ring tone?
yea theres ways around it, but apple constantly try to force you to do everything their way!

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___________
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 3:55:12 AM
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this gen no its too late.
next gen though is up in the air.
IF they stop treating their fans like gum under their shoe.
IF they start treating their fans everywhere equally, no more of this US exclusive competitions, US exclusive game editions, US getting things months before everyone else!
IF they stop treating their customers like gum under their shoe stealing features they paid for, and taking away their legal rights or taking away a advertised feature.
IF they stop trying to be nintendo and just stick to the core games which brought them where they are today.
IF they can do all that then i cant see anything stopping them!
though i cant see any of those ever changing, let alone all of them!

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 9:31:29 AM

Sometimes its best to look at things from a bigger perspective.

The US needs the marketing to compete with the 360 and the Wii.

You should be able to see that.

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___________
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 10:22:04 AM

and everywhere else does not?
thats one thing i cant understand.
everywhere else the ps3 is selling better then the 360 and sometimes the wii.
so they get sh*t treatment.
but in the states its selling by far the worst against the competition anywhere else in the world!
so they get treated like royalty!
you say f*ck you to us so we say thank you!
you say thank you to us we say f*ck you!
what the?

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:16:16 AM
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Vita will top 3DS in its first year, no doubt about it. As for after... depends on how popular 3DS is with casual audiences and kids. If Sony steals that market, Nintendo will have a big struggle on their hands.

PS4 HAS TO release before the next Xbox or at least within 3 months of it if it wants to remain competitive. PS2 released before Xbox and Gamecube, and while not quite as powerful could still deliver the goods. Sony also introduced casual gamers for the first time with Singstar, Buzz and Guitar Hero on PS2, waaaaay before Wii's release.

PS3 was a year late to the party, incredibly expensive (compared to the 360, even though the PS3 was better value for money) AND PS3's network required 3 years of updates and overhauls to finally match Xbox Live. Only from 2009 did people see PSN's free online play as worth it over Xbox Live's incredible quality. If PS3 could do cross game chat for free, Xbox Live would be done for. At least Vita can do party chat and multi-tasking. :)

If PS4 wants to beat the competition, I reckon it should take a page from it's history and the competition's popular products and services.

Be either first out the gate or within a month or two of the competition.

Backwards compatibility with all PS3 and PSN software and services.

A big upgrade in RAM and disc storage, but not so much in cell processing power or graphics processing. The PS3's architecture (except for the RAM) is still considered a beast of a machine and doesn't really need doubling. Even with 8 cores, it will still be more powerful than the Wii U, and most likely the next Xbox.

Keep costs low. A money-saving machine that still delivers = a happy customer and gamer.

No need for new controllers. Duel Shock 3 is wireless and has gyro tech for movement, and Move is still in its infancy, most likely to realise its potential on the PS4.

A 3D duel-lens camera packed with every PS4 console, so it can kinda mimick Kinect, means multiplat releases of Dance Central and fitness games, AND 3D videos and photos for all buyers of the PS4. Could work well with Move, the two lenses acting as better accuracy detection.

I hope someone related to Sony see this cos the PS3 just needs some minor tweaking and the casual body movement-based gameplay appears more popular than 3D screens. Just something I've noticed in the industry. I really do hope PS4 dominates next gen, and it appears early market dominance and some sort of gimmick is a great way to kick it off. Oh, and games. Lots of excellent launch games spaced out over the first several months.

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TheOldOne
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 8:12:49 AM
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As long as Microsoft keeps making low quality consoles they will sell more. Why? Simple. How many people do you know that already has bought more than two Xbox 360 consoles because their first ones broke? I already know three people. it's insane. I hope gamers of this console generation learned their lesson and don't make the same mistake again on the next one.

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 9:32:24 AM
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PS4 needs to launch at the same time or before the next Xbox does for Playstation to be back on top sales wise. As it is now I believe global sales for both consoles are pretty much even which for consumers, is a great thing, IMO. Both companies won't get complacent with their practices (hopefully). I think someone said it earlier but it does remind me of the Sega vs. Nintendo years.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 1:44:39 PM
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Bungie is no longer under Microsoft control. Gears of War is ending.

In order to stay relevant next generation, Xbox needs to do more than just create a new console. They need a killer IP that is unlike any other. With Halo and Gears effectively ending, and with title like Alan Wake not doing well despite high quality, I feel like it won't be difficult to see Sony as the champion.

To put it simply, I just feel like Microsoft is very short term in thinking. They only muscle for sales NOW. I think Sony has done a better job of investing in their brand for the long run. It's shown by their loyalty to developers, fairness to consumers, and their lack of ambition to muscle out ads in a way that effectively disrupts their profitability.

I firmly believe that when it's all said and done 5 years from now, PS3 -WILL- have more systems sold worldwide than 360.

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jimmyhandsome
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 2:00:11 PM

For better or worse, Bungie is gone, but 343 Studios is starting a new Halo trilogy beginning with Halo 4 next year. I have no idea where they can take the franchise, but it definately isn't ending.

But you're right, Microsoft is very short term in their thinking. Once the next Xbox is announced and released, its practically a death sentence for 360.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 2:22:30 PM
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Narrowed the gap? Outside the states Sony dominated

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 10:26:18 PM

Indeed.

Still I also question the 360 numbers validity based on the disparity between the number of units sold hardware wise vs the number of units sold software wise, and the number of XBL subscriptions - which lacks the unit sales by nearly 17 million.

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SirLoin of Beef
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:15:15 PM
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They might in this generation depending on how much longer it lasts. The PS3 has a superior exclusive lineup on its way while the 360's continues to shrink. With the console prices just about even and free online play, there's no reason to believe the PS3 will surpass the 360, sales-wise.

Next gen I think it won't be a contest if Sony isn't stupid. I consider myself a pretty big Xbox fan but there's no way I'd consider getting their new system when it comes out until after I've seen what kind of quality control MS is using. Though I've had no problems with my launch-day model, there have been way, way too many failures for me to put any trust in the first batch of any new console they put out.

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PSTan
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 4:16:55 PM
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Going slightly off topic:

The next generation needs a new leap in tech before it happens.

The jump to the PS3 represented the evolution of how we saw a game: in beautiful HD visuals. The Wii, no matter what your opinion is, represented the dramatic shift of audience and the innovation of motion controls in a home console. The 360 introduced a strong, unified online system.

To be all that honest, I wouldn't immediately buy a PS4 if it was just a hardware upgrade; although it would be great, the next gen needs new, innovative tech that grabs consumers. AR anyone?

The playstation doesn't need to be on the top for me. As long as Sony keeps doing what it's doing, I'll be happy to support them in whatever they do.

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Twistedfloyd
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 8:05:18 PM
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Yeah, I think there needs to be a big jump in terms of what we will be getting before the next generation happens. I want a new way to play, at the same time, it's hard to think that I'll ever give up my dualshock.

That 3D head display thing sounds sick. Too bad it's like 800 dollars.

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AbsoluteZer0
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 8:16:01 PM
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Honestly, does it really matter? I mean, look at the sales figures, last I heard, the PS3 was only about 5 mil behind the Xbox, right? The PS3 already has a significant advantage in it's library, I think that most anyone can see that. Since there's not a big disparity betwixt the sales numbers, devs aren't going to just gravitate towards one system because of likelihood of selling more units. They're going to gravitate towards the console that looks like a better environment for developing or just both. As others have noted, the popularity of the shooter really won't last forever.(I'm really hoping the platformer comes back big-time...I can dream, right?) And that's really the Xbox's main draw. The other big one is the number of people on Live, that's gotta be changing, the way sales are picking up for the PS3.

Basically, if Sony's making a good profit for doing a good job(which I'm betting they are now), if we're getting great games(which we are), if the future looks bright(I think it does, maybe not for my wallet, but oh well), then who gives a d*** about the Xbox? I don't, well I am a bit jealous of 'Splosion Man, but that's really it.

Long Live Play!

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 27, 2011 @ 10:24:38 PM
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Well, based in the sales numbers so far, at 5 years into the product's life, and assuming another 5+ years, there is ever chance that PS3 will sell well past 100 million units. The NA market is behaving out of line with the rest of the world, and that makes it look like MS has quite the momentum, but their numbers are skewed by a number of factors and the unit sales of consoles are not reflected proportionately in the unit sales of games or XBL subscribers.

Looking at the PS3 in isolation, it is a successful product, and is likely to sell more than 100 million units in it's life.

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PharaohJR
Wednesday, September 28, 2011 @ 12:40:12 AM
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can sony return back on top with sales? with every system released sony has delivered quality along with innovation.

what will effect the gaming field- industry is this competition scheme. american practices are starting to be recognized in other countries as we can see with the amount of sales of X360. if this exclusive practice in software continues in the next generation.... meaning xbox continues to offer large amounts to developers to offer the better product on their system i doubt sony will return on top.

as sony primary focus in their system is innovation.... if innovation cost to much & cant be in a affordable price with competition they will suffer again in terms of sale #s. since the average consumer doesnt really look into which system is quality they just focus on which will give them the quick fix xbox might be on top again next generation.

this is why i been saying i hope sony doesnt alter there standpoint in delivering what there known for just so they can have the upperhand.

man i tell ya.... business. SMH

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Underdog15
Wednesday, September 28, 2011 @ 12:28:49 PM

I think Sony offers more to developers than Microsoft. Microsoft will pay for timed exclusivity on multiplats, but Microsoft doesn't really have any 3rd party exclusives.

Sony sure does though. I think that says a lot.

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manofchao5
Thursday, September 29, 2011 @ 9:05:31 PM
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Not to say the ps2 wasn't a great success but I believe a good portion of ps2 sales was thanks to dvd, a family looking for a new console saw a dvd player bundled with a game system to entertain their kids for a good price because at the time dvd players weren't exactly cheap and people were interested in a new format after vhs sitting around for like 2 decades lol

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MrAnonymity
Thursday, September 29, 2011 @ 9:59:34 PM
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I believe we should just have faith.

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theReigen
Friday, September 30, 2011 @ 10:51:35 AM
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my answer to youre article is:
yes, in time the ps3 will outsell the ps2 until the ps3`s 10+ year market life ends witch is stil more than half a decade avay, so youre and my opinion upon this subject is just wery lose speculation

and as for sales in general:
i dont buy my consoles because loots of other people do
i bought my ps3 for 1 and 1 reason only, games, it took me more than a year to make myself a psn account, and almoast 3 years to buy my first bd movie
sales dont mean horse sh**, and they sertenetly dont make my games more fun to play,
what they represent is market demand, not consumer demand, because based of the game libary for the wii and the 360, they are sertenatly being widely used by kidds(wii) and teanagers(360), and i hawe doughts they did walid research before making their parents buy them a 300 usd console

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realmadpuppy
Friday, September 30, 2011 @ 4:43:34 PM
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I feel that MS and Sony are actually important to each other. The competition between them will only make it better for us the gamer/consumer. more power, lower prices better games are all things that we are benefiting from because of this. I hope that both companies stay healthy and keep pushing each other.

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Excelsior1
Tuesday, December 27, 2011 @ 8:33:29 PM
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I highly doubt it because of the way Sony struggles in NA.

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