Killzone 2 Review

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Graphics:

9.6

Gameplay:

9.8

Sound:

9.7

Control:

9.5

Replay Value:

10.0

Online Gameplay:

9.4

Overall Rating: 9.7

Publisher:

SCEA

Developer:

Guerrilla Games

Number Of Players:

1-2 Players (32 Online)

Genre:

FPS

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You know, this lead up to the review almost makes the day feel like some mega console launch. The amount of hype and hysteria surrounding Killzone 2 is epic, especially considering that it's a sequel to a rather poor PlayStation 2 shooter. Having debuted with an ultra-stylized and flashy render at E3 in 2005, Killzone 2 has finally reached the end of its development cycle and here we are, fortunate enough to be playing the final product for the past month now. I've let the whole experience sink in, and now it's time for me to tell you why this may be the best first-person shooter in a long, long time.

I applaud Guerrilla for building an exhilarating single-player experience that'll go unrivaled for many years. You see, unlike other FPS games, Killzone 2 doesn't start off with a boring training mode that constantly interrupts the gameplay to inform you of a new tip. Instead, after a two-minute gameplay intro sequence, a cut-scene will lead you right into the heart of the action and you'll definitely feel the fright and hectic gameplay from the get-go. What's amazing about Killzone 2's gameplay is just how superbly well the game manages to envelope you into its surrounding.

You're well aware that this is a videogame, but at times, the tension and excitement can make you forget. You'll play Killzone 2 slightly more alert than any other shooter, and that could also be a testament to the game's fantastic A.I., which is always working together and always keeping their eyes peeled for any surprise attacks. Never before have I played a shooter that made you feel so close to the environment and conveyed that sense of panic during gameplay; Call of Duty 4 is close, but Killzone 2 is still better.

Where as some games boast A.I. that's mindless and follows a path, or other games have A.I. that's just obscenely difficult to the point of being annoying, Killzone 2 strikes that perfect balance and even manages to avoid one crippling flaw: constant re-spawning. Once you've dealt with your enemies, you can be rest assured that they won't be coming back anymore, and I commend Killzone 2 for that.

How Killzone 2 engages the gamer seems to be unlike any other FPS game I've ever played. There is a solid connection between the gamer, the character, and the environment that you're in. The amount of excitement all around you really cranks up the feedback and the experience, and I can't stress that facet enough - the game is simply intense. To further add to this whole feeling of immersion is how your enemies react to the bullets as they pierce through them with their bodies recoiling to every bullet connected. You've no doubt seen the footage of a Helghan troop getting shot up as his body is rained on with lead, and while it's pretty to watch on your computer monitor, it's even better to witness in person on your TV. With hundreds of death animations, that kind of attention to detail really makes the shooting feel rewarding, as every bullet fired just feels extremely satisfying.

And that's another important aspect of the game that lends itself to that immersion factor, the feel of every shot is superb. One thing I must mention is something that may shock some of you...but when I played Killzone 2 at E3 this past July, I wasn't terribly crazy about it. The shooting had far too much recoil, making it hard to steady the reticule and mow down enemies. So I was extremely happy to see that this had been taken care of, and the controls were tightened considerably - definitely a big kudos to Guerrilla for listening.

Progression through each stage is fairly linear, but combat can be approached in a variety of directions. For example, you are free to sneak around the environment in order to gain some leverage on your enemies. But be careful, like I said, the A.I. isn't stupid as they often know of exploits in the environment, and can cut you off with a surprise attack. So if you'd like to wander off and attack your opponents from the side, you may encounter some resistance on your way to and through a path. You'll combat that resistance in a variety of ways; when you're out of ammo your knife will be your melee weapon, you can also strike enemies with your gun, and of course you'll have a reserve of grenades to throw. The best method is to play it smart and play it cool, running and gunning will result in a sure death, so use the game's cover mechanic to shield yourself from danger, and peak out every now and then to pick off your enemies - headshots are most rewarding here.

Difficulty levels range from easy (Recruit), to hard (Veteran), with normal (Trooper) being the perfect middle-ground. Of course, you can expect additional difficulties to pop-up once you complete the game, but my playthroughs are based entirely on the normal setting, though I did give the hard setting a try too. On normal the game provides a proper challenge, with A.I. that I've already mentioned to boast a perfect balance. You'll still find yourself getting killed occasionally with the standard difficulty mode, but if you're looking for an even bigger challenge, playing on Veteran will give it to you.

Between the beta and the online matches that Sony has setup for us, I've also had a chance to experience the multiplayer offerings numerous times, and while it may not be the 60-player mayhem of Resistance 2's setup, the 32-player events we took part in were still more than enough to have an awesome time with. Multiplayer is definitely going to be Killzone 2's lasting point, as the maps were great and the matches were all a blast. With up to 32 players on the field, things got really chaotic, and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Multiplayer modes include, Assassination, Search & Destroy, Bodycount, Search & Retrieve, and Capture & Hold - all of which are fairly self-explanatory. As far as vehicles, those will be made present as free downloadable content soon after the game's release. Shame about the lack of a co-op experience though, maybe that'll appear as DLC, as well? But a big plus for at least giving us bots to fight against.

Moving on, Sony has always promised that Killzone 2 would be a visual tour de force, and seeing as how it's got one absurdly controversial trailer to live up to, the gaming public has kept expectations extremely high. I'm happy to report that visual fidelity of Killzone 2 lives up to what Sony first showed us. Granted it's not a carbon copy as far as polish and quality goes, but there are a number of things that the game does better than that aforementioned debut trailer. For example, the colors are now more varied, and you can notice this if you compare the original trailer to the actual cut-scene of the game side-by-side. Additionally, old builds and screenshots of the game from 2007 reveal a much more monotone environment, where as the final game's environments not only boast a more varied color palette, but also much better textures. Furthermore, character detail has also been revamped in some cases, when compared to those older in-game trailers.

The characters, much like the environments, have also been given a shot of life, with eyes that don't make them look like zombies, textures that are sharper, and overall detail that makes Killzone 2 one of the best looking games around. Despite the amount of action that goes on the screen, the game runs extremely well, with little to no slow-down present. And despite how massive and detailed the environments are, the graphics still aren't plagued with things like pop-up or aliasing, as the game's pristine picture clarity is a sight to see. Lastly, animation, lighting, and other bits of attention to detail really round out a visual package that is nothing short of jaw-dropping.

The audio is also extremely powerful, with lots of battlefield dialogue and banter. The Helghast sound hauntingly menacing as they taunt you, and the sound effects of the battle all around you rips through the speakers with force. There is quite a bit of voice acting, and it helps that it is also solid, but it's really not what you'll be concentrating on when listening to this game in action. You've seen me say this numerous times, but if you've got a home theater setup, you absolutely must experience the game on it. I can't think of any other way it should be played - a game with such high technical caliber was designed to be played on only the best audio and visual hardware. This one really makes a nice 'boom' sound.

Killzone 2 lives up to every one of its promises, and considering the bar it set for itself in 2005, that's a lot of promises to live up to. Ultimately, we have a game that strikes the perfect balance between a single-player and multiplayer experience. Where almost all current FPS games boast a multiplayer component that is far and away better and more satisfying than the single-player experience, Killzone 2 boasts a single-player campaign that is every bit as much fun as the multiplayer - and that is truly a rarity. I've had the pleasure of going through the first six stages of the preview build last December, and then replaying the entire game on this review build. And even though I've experienced half of the game twice, it still felt every bit as exciting the second time around, as it did the first. I also applaud Guerrilla for building a campaign that doesn't last only a few hours, but rather close to 10 hours in total. Yes, the hype is real, Killzone 2 is that damn good, consider it the first big game of the year contender for 2009.

2/2/2009 Arnold Katayev

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Aftab
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:57:34 AM
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Yaahhhhhh!!!!

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Odd Child
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:51:16 PM

Awesome I just pre-ordered from amazon.

$5 off with coupon code during checkout: KZ2SAVE5

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Aftab
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:37:37 PM

Double Yahhhhh!!!!

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crapreviews
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:00:41 PM
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would have thought you guys were going to give 10 all the way cuz of how you kept talking about it.

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Aftab
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:10:55 PM

No worries, man. Not too many 9.7's out there, either.

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caliblue15
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:13:57 PM

I'm mad BEN/ARNOLD!!! A 9.7? You could have at least rated it as good as GTAIV, but lower..pff come on you = fail.

(I'm just messing with you guys, one of the best reviews if not the best review on the internet)

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:05:49 PM
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I knew this game would be good. My friend Cory has a PS3 so I guess ill have to try it out and see what the game is like in person.

I hope Sony has a hit on this one. Heres to hoping their marketing can get the word out.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:10:18 PM

Nevermind. He dont have it no more..

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chicko1983
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:47:44 PM

why dont you buy a ps3? you seem to be interested in the console enough to repeatedly post on a playstation only site.

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kreate
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:37:18 PM

319 in circuit city for brand new

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Prevent
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:06:02 PM
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This game is so GoDLy
can't wait to get my hands on the demo and try it out

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timster118
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:09:55 PM
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O.K ....now mail the game to me so I can give it a rip. You're probably sick of it by now anyway....right?

Thanks for the review. I'm looking forward to playing this one. Sounds Awesome!

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Craigo
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:11:32 PM
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Good review Arnold. Cant wait for the demo on Thursday.

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shadowpal2
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:15:30 PM
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Guerilla truly shaped up to make Killzone 2 surpass the E3 2005 trailer IMO. And it definitely advanced since killzone 1. Wish them the best of success.

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GoldenShadow
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:15:46 PM
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I have known for a while that I will buy KZ2, in fact, I have already reserved it. But your stunning review of the game affirms my decision. Thanks!

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zerostar39
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:18:57 PM
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oh shnap! I can't wait!!

very nicely written by the way, ben.

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:59:45 PM

Hey if you look at the bottom of the article, the name clearly reads: Arnold Katayev

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:04:27 PM

What? Wrong person lol.

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Im The Man
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:59:03 PM

well they used to d*ck riding ben so much its basically automatic.

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Banky A
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:31:26 AM

@ The Man

In the words of Niko Bellic: Fuc* you.

LOLbiscuits. Just kidding but how could you say that about Ben-jamin'?

:(

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rell
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:19:25 PM
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awesome kz2 is going to owned us all feb 27.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:21:43 PM
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Come on. Give credit where credit's due...see the author name there? ;)

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dillonthebunny
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:21:53 PM
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nice!

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N a S a H
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:22:49 PM
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I thought he'd give it a 9.6 xD Wasn't that far off :D

Great review Arnold. Top-Notch stuff.

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Renck
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:23:13 PM
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@ Zerostar39 the review was done by Arnold.

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big6
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:25:46 PM
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Sounds amazing!! Can't wait!
One question though, that none of the reviews that I've read have addressed...

If you play Online Multiplayer with *only* bots, will you still be eligible for trophies, ribbons, medals, and upgrades? (ie., are they still considered RANKED matches?)

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N a S a H
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:49:17 PM

Probably. Gears had bots and you could get the trophies by playing them. It doesn't make that much of a difference, unless you're a trophy whore.

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aaronisbla
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:00:45 PM

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Fabi
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:26:52 PM
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Can't wait for this...I still think it should get a 10 for graphics, even with whatever glitches it has.

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tattedout
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:33:52 PM
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that was arnold^^^

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Cavan
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:38:47 PM
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the thing i really love about this game is that theirs bots!! i had a great time with my mate on the ps2 playing killzone one with me and a few bots against him and a few bots, we used to end up playing one on one on cod4 last yr ( as he didnt have a ps3 ) and while that was ok, the area's were too big, so am really pleased that killzone 2 still has bots in and they can be used online. tho am sure there wont be shortage of ppl online however, i recon this might sell 4 million and be a good console shifter for ps3 ( i kno i kno 10 points for stating the obvious lol )

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TheUglyBassist
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:40:41 PM
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Nice review. I can't wait to get my hands on this one.

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bigrailer19
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:43:47 PM
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yeah im very excited about the release... I cant wait either! GOOD REVIEW!!!!!

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isaya85
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:45:40 PM
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Arnold can I have your review copy I cant wait anymore after reading that review give me a price I'll pay?

PSN ID Biggest_GMoney

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vicious54
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:47:30 PM
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Great review, can't wait for the game to come out. The only thing I didn't like in the videos is the laser for reviving, it looked really stupid.

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:55:53 PM
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nice job arnold

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vicious54
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 12:58:35 PM
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The only thing you should change is in the second to last paragraph.

"I can't think of any other way the should be played"

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Skatejimmy5
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:01:04 PM
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Great review, Arnold! Loved it!

I won't regret pre-ordering this, then, won't I? ;)

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Banky A
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:01:12 PM
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Sweet.

That is all.

;)

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BTNwarrior
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:01:19 PM
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How did the best looking consol game ever get a 9.6 in graphics?

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N a S a H
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:03:04 PM

It's Arnold :P

Who said that anyway?

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timster118
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:10:10 PM

I was wondering that myself. Best looking graphics of any shooter to date = 10 for looks.

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bamf
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:36:17 PM

I'm wondering that too. MGS4 has absolutely amazing gfx and rightfully deserves the 9.8 it got for gfx. KZ2 gfx is a leap above MGS4 but gets a lower score for gfx.

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raztad
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:04:26 PM
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Nice review!! this is a game that a real gamer needs to play, Im pointing at you XBOT, go ahead and get a PS3 and KZ2, you will not regret it. Some funny comments from other reviews out there:

From videoGamer:
"Sev's not fast, and he's no super soldier. He can't jump 20 feet in the air, like Master Chief, or roadie run as if a speeding bullet, like Marcus Fenix" <---WTF is a xbox fan reviewing a PS3 game? (9/10)

But this one is my favorite so far
From Kikizo:
"Locking to cover with a shoulder button (a mechanic exclusive to single player) feels a little contrived at first - first-person shooters have done just fine without letting the player glue himself to walls, so why start now? - but is a pleasantly unrealistic blessing once the Helghast bust out bigger firearms" <--- WTF? the cover system is a bad thing? how is to cover UNREALISTIC in a firefight? Prob I need to re read this again (9/10).

Many of these reviewers are really looking hard for flaws in KZ2 just to justify a non 10/10 score.

If KZ2 is renamed Halo: KillZone 2, a 10/10 is granted for sure.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:06:44 PM

Can you like KillZone without hating Halo? Is it impossible?

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FLYING_APE
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:09:57 PM

because this game deserve credit and recognition which GAYLO 3 never earned. I honestly love GAYLO 3 but it's over rated.

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N a S a H
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:28:37 PM

I hate Halo 3. It was the biggest disappointment to me this generation. I used to be a hardcore Halo 2 player so don't call me a fan boy.

I played the KZ2 Beta and it's almost better than COD4, and that was only the Beta. Can't wait.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:56:49 PM

Gaylo 3? Are you 12?

But I thought Halo 3 was amazing. Its a year old and STILL is number one in activity on Xbox live.

Thats the thing of any great franchise. If you dont get it. It must be overrated!

Funny how the best selling titles are always overrated isn't it?;)

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timster118
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:11:51 PM

Touchy, touchy....sheesh.

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:25:36 PM

How can dude say that he "honestly loves GAYLO" and call it such a horrendous nickname.

Shut the hell up Flying Ape...Sony fanboy.

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LCF
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:51:09 PM

Only reason halo 3 is #1 on xboxlive is because Gears 1.5 blows.

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Im The Man
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:03:13 PM

no U BLOW LCF youre nothing but a fanboy. TRY AGAIN.

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LCF
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:39:22 PM

Im the man, your just ignorant. Gears 1.5 was #1 in active online users. But people got tired of the broke match making, glitchs, lag, cheating and I could go on and on. So those people either went back to gears 1 or CoD IV or Halo 3. So get your head out of your ass and pay attention.

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FLYING_APE
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:11:47 PM
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Hopefully this game get 95+ on metacritic. I'm srry lately i'm gettin obssesed with reviews. OH SH*T I'M A NERD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! !!!!!!

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killzone100
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:18:31 PM
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nice one Arnold!! I think you said all the main points without being biased. a much better review than PS3FANBOY well done!!

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raztad
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:20:16 PM
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@Josh

Im NOT hating Halo buddy, on the contrary I enjoyed playing Halo on the pc, till I found Call of Duty :D. Only wanted to state that some reviewers are not being very fair when comparing platform exclusive games.

@FLYING_

9.4 most probably, a lot of 9.0 are getting the score down.

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killzone100
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:28:06 PM

True about the platform exclusive thing. Halo 3 is fun for about 10 minutes before you start to really hate the 10 ft jumps and the no sprint and the n00bs that play it.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:01:58 PM

Thats the thing..Bias gets in the way of judgment. I for one am hoping KillZone kicks ass. As competition only improves the breed.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:40:09 PM
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I'm going to say this now and no raving Xbots are allowed to contest it:

Killzone 2 beats the ever-loving crap out of any Halo. It's like comparing FPSs across generations the gap is so big. And bear in mind that I VERY much enjoyed all three Halos. I've got them all sitting right behind me in my collection.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:00:24 PM

We will see. I for one hope its better being its a year newer;)

But it needs more then a good gameplay in my eyes. It needs a great online service and a great storyline. And to be active it needs the sales your hoping for.

Ill still love Halo without hating or dogging KillZone. You guys like what you like. And I will like what I like.

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:32:21 PM

lol halo was good to me if killzone can surpass it then all will be right, joshua I here that people like the multiplayer alot, but they also say that it has a crappy story. I would not worry about it being active just like r2 there are always thousands playing at a any given time, it maybe that because halo lacks servers it is not as active.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:33:45 PM

Seriously though Josh, find a way to try it out. Not tryin to show u up but you are a shooter fan right? Rent that PS3 again!

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:42:16 PM

Ill see how it does.

Honestly I loved MGS and hope the next one is muitiplatform. But KillZone im a lil touchy about.

Can you guys tell me whats new about this game? I know its good. But is it really groundbreaking like its said to be(around here)?

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:33:02 PM

We couldnt really tell you yet Josh. The only people who can answer your question are Arnold and Ben. I've been reading reviews all day and I'm hearing that Killzone is "A very polished FPS" and "Sony has a instant GOTY contender for '09"

But almost 5/10 reviewers said that its not as groundbreaking and revolutionary as everyone thought. Still all i see is 9.3+ scores from it

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shindelion
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:05:29 PM

Are you going to get the new Halo games? I'm not a fan but it seems interesting.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:10:38 PM

Im getting Halo wars and ODST this year.

HELL YEAH!

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shindelion
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:56:05 PM

Ben are you going to get the new Halo games? I'm not a fan but it seems interesting.

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KevinCairo
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:07:29 PM

Let's be honest now -- Halo doesn't exactly have the best storyline so that's hardly an issue in determining whether KZ2 is better or worse than it.

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dr-GerOme NimZO
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 7:22:33 PM

I've been waiting to stumble across a comparison like that.
I can just imagine how many Halo fanatics who would just lose their minds..I know a couple of those people from school
"Like that one drink that sends a wavering alcoholic over the edge."

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photo K
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:50:14 PM
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I can't wait!!! I know I will definitely make great use of the multiplayer with bots, but its still too bad that the coOp campaign was left out.

Arnold - how is the lighting in the game? How are the weapons? cursor movement? I want to know more!!

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SerendipityDeus
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 1:59:03 PM
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I can't wait anymore for this game its gonna be sick as hell, thurs. seems so far away right now, in the mean time though that RE5 demo is pretty sick, who's gonna do the review for that one? Ben or Arnold

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mikemclaughlin
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:09:56 PM
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hopefully this game sells better than Resistance 2. maybe sony should start doing mountain dew commercials. i know its corny but it worked for halo 3

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convergecrew
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:14:10 PM
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Im entirely happy with this gushing review. Cant wait to play it.

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blitz30952
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:20:30 PM
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Awesome review AK :D
Hopefully this PS3 exclusive should kick some ass this year and show everyone that Sony's console ain't going to stay in second place for long... (I think that the Wii doesn't really count as next-gen tbh)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:35:13 PM

No one here thinks Wii counts as anything, period.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:21:14 PM

Does that mean the 360 is winning the console war?=]

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:35:09 PM

Yes it does Josh. I'd rather Microsoft win anyway seeing as how its catered to the hardcore gamers. But that also means soon Sony will be leading because of the awesome exclusives we have coming this year.

So enjoy your lead, xbox scum eater!

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:54:55 PM

^^^Keep dreaming;)

Sony has no plans to lower the price and GOW is pushed back to 2010. Meanwhile we have plenty of great games coming as well.

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coverton341
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:15:44 PM

@Josh
This is a completely serious question not intended to put down anything. That being said, what are all these great games coming this year for the 360 barring the two Halo games which I personally am not that enthusiastic about seeing as how I don't like Halo that much.

I honestly want to know what all these games are and please keep it exclusive seeing as how I can get RE5 on PS3 I don't see that as being a fair thing to use. (just using RE5 as an example)

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:25:35 PM

Go to Xbox and look at upcoming games. Theres plenty in the pipeline

The only ones I care about are the new Halos and the new GTA episodes. I plan to pick up a couple others like Alan Wake but dont really care much for others.

You know whats funny. You guys say the same Shyt every year about the 360 games. But they keep coming and coming. Keep selling millions and millions. Its like because they don't announce everything at once they dont have nothing. Maybe they would rather talk about em when they come and not when they are coming in over a year (GOW3). Now let me ask you this. What good games are coming out THIS year for PS3?

I haven't turned on the Xbox in a couple days. And when I do its to talk shit to friends and kick their asses on live. I dont need alot of games. But im getting the best from the titles I do love this year. My needs will be MORE then met.

PS3 guys saying xbox has no games...this is funny.

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Frenchy17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:26:08 PM

I am curious, what are these plenty of great games you have coming Josh????

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:32:44 PM

LOL

You guys crack me up. But my post is waiting to be open. Then you will see what I have to say.

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Frenchy17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:31:57 PM

Wow I waited for your post to be open for that? What a let down! The new Halo crap expansions and the GTA crap expansion? You call yourself a gamer? Why are you even posting on a Killzone review article anyways??? You honestly have nothing better to do, do you?

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coverton341
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:00:42 PM

Your response to my question was a thinly veiled attack but it's ok. I honestly was just asking a simple question and I never said the 360 had no games ever. I actually have been playing more 360 than PS3 lately one due to the fact that my PS3 died and 2 due to the fact that Mass Effect and Lost Odyssey are exclusives and games that I very much like probably some of my favorites considering I like the RPG genre. The fact that you can only name a Halo expansion, GTA DLC, and a Halo game is unsettling for me because I was hoping for some awesome exclusives for both systems. See I love games and I don't really care what system they are on I own both and I play both systems exclusive because again I love games. So, again I just really wanted to know what was coming that is exclusive and now I guess I know. And that being said it really isn't anything I personally am looking forward to.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:33:45 PM

You guys are dicks.

I say what games im looking forward to and because of that it means nothing? Those are the games I like and those are what makes me happy? What the hells wrong with that?

And yes I could list a ton of new games if you want me to? Because I guess thats what its about now.

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coverton341
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:36:23 PM

Dude take a chill pill. How am I a dick? I said that the fact that you could only name three games is unsettling to me. It is unsettling to me because like I stated I was looking forward to some different exclusive games that are NOT Halo because I personally don't like it. I never said that you meant nothing for only naming those three things I am seriously jsut wondering what is coming out I don't follow the damn media because I don't watch TV I come to this site to find out the hot titles that are going to be sure buys for the PS3 for me in the near future and I was asking you an xbox360 fan what exclusives are coming to that console because I don't frequent sites that are like this one but for the 360. Instead of getting an answer after repeated tries I get called a dick. You sir are now making it personal and now I am saying that what you have to say means nothing because you cannot have a civil informative conversation without resorting to name calling.

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blitz30952
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:43:48 AM

man, didn't mean for my little comment about the Wii to spawn hate...

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:05:14 AM

Here are some exclusives I know of a t the moment you may like.

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F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin™
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Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection™
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X-Blades™
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Street Fighter® IV
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The Godfather® II
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50 Cent: Blood on the Sand
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Stoked
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Star Ocean® : The Last Hope™
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Halo Wars™
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Eat Lead™: The Return of Matt Hazard™
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Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X
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Resident Evil 5
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Stormrise™
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Wanted: Weapons of Fate
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Halo® 3: ODST
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UNO RUSH™
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Alan Wake™
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Ninja Blade™
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Final Fantasy™ XIII
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Red Faction:® Guerrilla™
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3 on 3 NHL® Arcade
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Alpha Protocol™
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Bionic Commando™

Now some of those are exclusive some arnt. Theres more if you want those to.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:16:33 AM

Joshua360: I've been holding this in for a while, but you're an idiot. Your list has three exclusives on it, and one of which has a very high probability of ending up on the PS3 anyway - Star Ocean, and possibly even Alan Wake if it ever gets released.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:25:42 AM

I guess that means something when Exclusives are all that matters. Not what the person likes or what they prefer.

I already have the games im looking forward to. So feel free to pat yourself on the back.

This is reminding me of early 08. When I laughed at you guys saying xbox was out of games..right.

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Random_Steve
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:40:34 AM

it didnt- only gears2 and fable 2 were any good. Ninja gaidan perhaps

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K ASH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:24:15 PM
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I thougt that killzone on the ps2 was a hit & a classic game, i am supprised when reading statement that it is a mediocre game. i will judging killzone2 against killzone1 but from what i have read kz2 diliveres on immersion wich is sweet because its suits my playing style in that i like to immerse into the game.

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:08:52 PM

I liked killzone 1, I still have it and play it from time to time. But compared to other shooters from its time it was mediocre. I thought the stoy and acting were great, but certian aspets of the gameplay were kind of annoying.

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raztad
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:24:57 PM
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Last report from the frontlines :D

CVG managed to give KZ2 8.7/10, incredible, but somehow I was expecting it

Here are the reasons:

No co-op
Samey enemies
Rarely need to change guns

CVG people beyond to sound like xbots IMO, as Ben once said, are trying to get a lot of hits.

Now expecting a 9.5/10 score for the incredible Halo Wars and a 10/10 for ODST :D . Sorry Josh but I needed to say it.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:26:03 PM

Yeah Yeah.

Halo ODST I think will be amazing enough for a 10. Thats real right there.

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:09:15 PM

Just cant get that excited for an RTS over a shooter. FPS do the adrenaline dose for me.

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cell9899
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:38:13 PM
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Im glad to read an honest review. Other xbot sites cant get over the fact that Killzone 2 not only lived up to the hype, it shattered Gears 2 and Galo3. They dont and wont admit Killzone 2 is better, and therefore mediocre websites will rate this game poorly, simply out of grief.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:38:15 PM
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Kudos Arnold, (Did you feel like Arnold Schwarzenegger while playing?) This is why I keep coming back here, journalistic standards. You reviewed every point objectively and stuck to what counts. Look at IGN, their reviewer just tells you the plot and nitpicks a few things (talk about amateurish sophomoric behavior). Can't wait to PWN you guys and get my "The PSXE Resistance" Clan up and running on KZ2(You all know who you are!)

WOOT WOOT, count it!

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 2/2/2009 2:38:43 PM

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NightHawk17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:24:44 PM

I'll be right there on the front lines waiting for my comrades

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MirrorSoul
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:28:24 PM

SEMPER FI

Last edited by MirrorSoul on 2/2/2009 3:28:51 PM

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:36:52 PM

Hell yeah. PSX clan ftw homie. REP YO SET!!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:23:33 PM

Hell YEAH, break yoselves fanboys, The Resistance is ON, and we WILL "Resist" Xbots by reppin KZ2.

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aaronisbla
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:20:38 PM

i will clan it up with you for killzone2 but im already part of a clan for the resistance 2

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:11:02 PM

sorry, I've been playing fallout 3 like it is crack.

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cell9899
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:45:25 PM
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Doup!! sorry for the multiple post, my relentless browser is tripping.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:15:17 PM

fail ;)

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Lord carlos
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:47:34 PM
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great review,cant wait 2 play it.
9.7,fantastic score!! THOSE CRAZY DUTCH MOFO'S DID IT HURAAAY!!

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bamf
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 2:58:39 PM
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IGN shows all the other reviews and out of 28 reviews not including PSXExtreme, the average is at 9.5. There's just one that scoresit below 9 giving it an 8.5. All the rest are 9+ there are high 9's and some 10's

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:02:14 PM
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Fixed a few miniscule errors, and added a line about bots.

Thanks for the kind words, guys. =)

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vicious54
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:50:31 PM

Hey Arnold,

How are the controls, I remember that a lot of people were complaining about zooming. Not sure if you or Ben mention any other control changes.

Last edited by vicious54 on 2/2/2009 10:51:03 PM

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coverton341
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:02:28 PM
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Well it looks like all the other reviews are putting this one up against Gears 2 and Halo 3 and while some of us here don't think anything of these two games the media by and large has crowned them the best things since the invention of video games themselves, so to be compared side by side to both of them is great news for Killzone 2. What I find fascinating is that a lot of these sites are giving the old line "PS3 finally has a game on it so now maybe they can sell a system or two" which goes to speak volumes about how the mass media is still looking at the PS3. I honestly think that this year could very well be a record year for Sony but I don't think the mass media is going to do it any justice when I read things like this.

Are we going to se new FPS games being directly compared to Killzone 2 now or are they going to stick to saying things like "puts Gears 2 to shame" or "Halo 3 was amazing until....."?

I hope the PS3 starts getting the media attention it deserves but it looks like M$ had one hell of a good idea throwing the system out the door a year too early and their PR department is top notch. I wonder how these people sleep at night.... No I don't I know they all sleep on mattresses stuffed with 100 dollar bills and pillows of gold weaved with silk.

Had to edit this in:
Total Video Games gave KZ2 a 8/10 and one of the complaints was "Cliff-hanger ending."

Is it not a good thing that the ending leaves you wanting more? Do they think GG decided oh hell let's end it on a cliff hanger and never follow up? Hell, it just sets up a third game and is that bad? Did Halo 2 garner such a low score for its ending?

Oh well.

Last edited by coverton341 on 2/2/2009 3:13:30 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:18:02 PM

Story elements are so "in the eye of the beholder" these bots need to stop giving straight opinion and be objective like Arny.

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:42:51 PM

Well based on other articles that gave Killzone a lower score because of the ending, Its because, like Gears 2, it seemed like the end boss fight was disappointing.

All I'm gonna say on that is its due to the final boss having the ability to teleport and one-hit-kills. I hear the end boss is ridiculously hard, to the point of aggrevation and annoyance and it hinders the game.

I'm still really happy with everything else I hear about the game. I'll look forward to owning you bastards online (I get the game 1 day before publice release haha!)

Look for Tron04!

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coverton341
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:17:37 PM

Wizard I will add you up when I get my PS3 and you will probably have a good head start on me. I don't think I will have my system back by the time that the game comes out though that is not going to stop me from buying it on day 1

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PS3_Wizard
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:02:15 AM

See ya there Coverton. But pray to God you are on MY team.

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:22:21 PM

I have become stone to the crap slinging. I am repulsed by the media and Those without a REAL opinion. There will always be the pathetic arguments of look at the sales, no Co-op, or "Cliff Hanger Ending" but Ill always stick with PSX to escape the pile of Sh8t that the gaming world is under.

I don't need anyone's opinions but I Appreciate to the Fullest the reviews of PSX!

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:07:33 PM
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i know this game is good but , i have never enjoyed any FPS , i dont think i'll enjoy this also ,c'mon give me prototype, infamous or imo the best game ever UNCHARTED 2.

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Schmitty
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:09:19 PM
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I dont see why it lost .3

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:12:38 PM
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Props to me! I sold a guy on KZ2 at my Niece's birthday party and sold my bro on getting a PS3.

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NightHawk17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:28:28 PM

I'm working on some family, my father is just about to get on, my brother and cousins are sold...and my friends all have 360's and you get my point:P

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:03:45 PM

I'm tryin to get my Dad on but he's 62 and probably doesn't have the coordination :(

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rell
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:02:17 PM

I try to convince my cousin to get kz2 but he don't want it, he like cod wow, so I gave up on him I say once sony put out ads in america hopefully that will change some naysayers. That doubted it.

Last edited by rell on 2/2/2009 7:14:56 PM

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Arvis
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:12:51 PM
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"Only" a 9.6 for graphics?? :D

-Arvis

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:15:28 PM
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Arnold who said that vehicles will come with free dlc? How linear is it?

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:32:51 PM

It's been mentioned by either Sony or Guerrilla. There are some vehicles to use during the campaign mode, so they are there, they just need to be implemented into MP.

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NightHawk17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:36:00 PM

i don't think they should put vehicles in MP, have you ever played COD:WAW...nuff said

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:53:49 PM

nice I was scared that it only be a move and shoot mp game.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:27:38 PM
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You know whats kinda funny.

The only people really comparing this game to Gears or Halo is...yep. The Sony guys. I just read tons of reviews saying its in the same genre. But offers nothing groundbreaking.

To few know about it and the PS3 is to high priced for many who would want a look.

Ill get raw a second. I will be AMAZED. If this game gets 1/4 the money or sales Halo alone has garnered for Microsoft. Dont believe me?

Watch..

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:37:28 PM

That's a stupid thing to say considering that KZ2 is a great game that's following up a poor game. Unlike Halo 2, which followed up a great game with an average one, and then another average one. Halo's success is built on the success of the original game. It's the Tony Hawk syndrome - all of the games sell extremely well despite not being any good anymore, and that's because they sell on the strength of the first few THPS games.

I don't think anyone expects KZ2 to be the second coming in sales for Sony, that's Gran Turismo's and God of War's job. But the potential for a staggering financial success is very much there, as well as the potential to move a bunch more consoles.

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MirrorSoul
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:43:59 PM

I'm sorry man but you irk the hell out of me with comments like that.
Truly Let me get "Raw" with you.
What did Halo 3 bring new to the table(That its predacesers didn't)?
What did Call of Duty 4 bring new to the table that was groundbreaking?
.................Absolutely nothing, you know what the did do, they perfected how FPS should be played ,and thats what KillZone 2 has done and up'ed the bar that CoD:MW set. Be a gamer and apreciate this game for the hell its gone through by the Media and doubters ,but not only passed but also exceededs what people though was possible in graphics on a consule and depth, i'm done.

(This was not to call you out I was just giving my opinion why it is groundbreaking)

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:47:45 PM

Yeah and to ellaborate on Arnold's post:

Halo is already an established franchise. After this game drops and the masses see its awesomeness, what do you think will happen to KZ3? A cult following will grow with every subsequent release of a new Killzone title, Just like Halo.

I think initially, the game WON'T see as much as Halo, but after everyone realized how much more of a QUALITY experience KZ is, Killzone will rise beyond the Halo Franchise.

Don't believe me? Watch...(numbnuts)

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:50:06 PM

I want to know "how" its better. HOW is it a gamechanger.

And I gave my response for you Arnold below this.

Im never said it wouldn't be a great game. But is it that hard to ask why it places above the rest?

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:50:20 PM

I don't care about who is the most inovative just who is the most fun. If kz2=halo3+0.1 then that is enough for me

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aaronisbla
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:35:31 PM

jesus josh, just play the damn game when it comes out, you sound like its impossible to have something better come along than halo.

I think arnold hit the nail on the head, lets face it josh, the reason why halo 2 and halo 3 sold so well is because of 1st game.

This site really disliked the first killzone game, look it up in the review section. I think i will trust arnolds review and go by my personal experience hands on with the beta.

No offense but you tend to come off as a hater at times

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:01:10 AM

^^^I might try to find a way..It does look promising.

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Zaben
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:33:13 PM
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Awesome.
Thanks for the review Arnold.

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:36:02 PM
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^^^^^^dude, first of all it is stupid to compare any shooter to gears , cause hands down gears is the best,on the other hands halo sucks donkey balls, i tried the first and all i could see is mutant midgets wunning around shooting weird lights out of there pistols and dont get me started about the stupid gameplay.
i know it wont get the same money , because halo with few others were the only decent games on the xbox

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tlpn99
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:42:39 PM
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Arnold could be Ben's Pseudonym lol (is that how it's spelt) only kidding guys I know your 2 seperate people haha.

I wasn't surprised it never got a 10 off Arnold though overall. There is always room for improvement on a game. lol :) (It very nearly was a 10) :)

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:45:08 PM
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@ Arnold

I thought Halo 2 was better then one. It had dual weld and showed the fight from both Master Chief and Arbiter.

I thought Halo 3 was amazing in the way it varied in surroundings and offering even more weapons and abilities.

I understand people can have their opinions. But opinions are like ... and everyone has one. I think the Halo franchise is great. It has become a gaming phenomenon and has earned more then 100million in revenue. I just cant stand people who dont respect great titles. Its like just because its good and has a huge following you always have them dbags who are like "that game sucks" instead of maturely stating "I can see why you like it, but its not for me."

I gave props to MGS. I think its one of the best games I ever played. But im just asking what KillZone is bringing to the table that Gears or Halo hasn't?

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PS3_Wizard
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:51:19 PM

Better production values (sound and visuals), more intense action, and class systems in multiplayer along with perks.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:52:54 PM

Sure Halo 2 featured new features over Halo 1, that's most sequels for you. But Halo 2 was also extremely repetitive, more so than the first, and barren in variety. I recall getting up to the 6th stage and just realizing that I've been doing the same thing over and over again. And that ending...what a slap in the face. Thankfully the game wasn't very long, so we weren't that pissed. But still...wow, epic fail.

Edit: Wizard nailed it. KZ2 simply has more to offer, with better quality too.

Last edited by ArnoldK PSXE on 2/2/2009 3:55:13 PM

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:54:45 PM

According to many it brings better visuals, better sp and mp. Halo is for me but I think kz2 will be better.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:59:56 PM

Doesn't the ending in KillZone have a cliffhanger?

I dont see a problem with a out there ending. It just makes you look forward to the next title.

I played both and I think Halo 1 was more the same with each mission then the second. The second had different characters added and different environments besides Halo.

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ec0li
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:08:43 PM

As a long time Halo fan...the single player experience of part 2 and 3 does not live up to the first Halo's at all. If I were to give Halo1 a 10 for the single player, 2 and 3 sadly only manages 8-8.5 in my eyes. Where 2 and 3 surely trumps part 1 in was the multiplayer competitive experience. The way they implemented forge and theater in Halo3 is revolutionary for console gaming which adds replayability and longevity. That is why the community is still huge and very active even after almost 2 years.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:13:18 PM

I liked how they broadened the story in the other titles.

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MirrorSoul
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:18:55 PM

I love Halo, on the record and i will give it its perks but Halo 3 was not ANYTHING new.

"I thought Halo 2 was better then one. It had dual weld and showed the fight from both Master Chief and Arbiter.

I thought Halo 3 was amazing in the way it varied in surroundings and offering even more weapons and abilities."

...yea....a change in enviroment and weapons and an improved storyline, ISNT THAT THE ISH SEQUELS ARE MADE FOR?!?!?
Its the way you present Halo 3 like it did sooo much man.
Really your comments tend to not only demean any PS3 exclusive but also berate the system because of price (Which it is worth). The whole "I like MGS, and give it respect" thing I believe is a front from you to keep yourself one the good side of Arnold's and Bens fence too keep from getting booted from this community of PS gamers, Im just going to stop posting to your remarks from now on because truly I WILL BECOME BIASED and turn in to a fanboy if i keep it up cause it gets to even the best of us at times.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:30:22 PM

If you love Halo dont be afraid to say it.

And no. I loved MGS. By far not a front.

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BikerSaint
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:21:40 PM

@Josh,
my honest opinion.....

Havent played KZ2 or H-2, but....
After I just finished playing KZ1 on my PS2 last night, I truly wanted it to keep going & going.

So after how much you keep on & on & on putting Halo up on a pedestal, I figured I'd go pop in my Halo CE on my original Xbox.

But after 10 minutes of play, I couldn't take it any more & relegated it back to it's shelf space where it will remain forever. It felt like I was playing an partially animated(the alien creatures) game that was being sold to adults. If I wasn't a collector, I would've traded it in, or sold it.)Thank goodness I only paid $3 for it.

Now mind you, I haven't seen H2 or 3, so I don't know if there's much difference, but if they're just "more of the same", I'll only buy them when they're finally tossed in the used games bargain bin later on, & only to complete my collection.
Btw, saw the trailers or H-Wars & the same go' for it too, since I don't like strategy games.
Haven't heard or seen anything on OSDT(or whatever the letters are), so won't even attempt to
form an opinion on that one yet.

Anyways, you'll have to excuse me, cause I'm gonna back to playing KZ1 once again, this time on the next difficulty setting.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:58:36 PM

Well you go ahead and like it. Its your personal choice.

Not that anyone else will even know what Killzone 1 was like. But ok.

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MetalHead09
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:22:42 PM

actually josh i was playing killzone 1 a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty good. i did notice one thing about the last gen fps games, they are so baron. the levels are huge with NOTHING in them lol. i didnt get to finish the game though cause it was making me sick and hurting my eyes, (certain games do that these days):( but what i did play was pretty darn good and killzone 2 looks to blow it away.

call of duty 4 sold me on the fps games and killzone 2 looks to do even more. i love the idea of bots. the last game i played with bots was red faction 2. my bro and i sat there all the time and leveled up our bots for hours. fun fun fun. i might pop that in again actually.

Last edited by MetalHead09 on 2/3/2009 1:24:11 PM

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:49:38 PM
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dude even though, it has alot of minions like ur self that will buy anything u put the word halo on(sony should stamp halo on the ps3 ), i really am not one of yall and i really hate it, i though it was too flashy too bright too bad.and i bought an xbox for this game

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:52:12 PM

Dident you just mention you only played the first one? Which in my eyes isn't as good as 2 or 3?

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chicko1983
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:52:13 PM
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I dont like to read reviews before playing a game but I have made an exception for this blockbuster mainly cause I hope it is as good as the hype.

But from what I read, it doesnt bring anything new to gaming but does everything brilliantly.
For me that doesnt sound too bad as I have not played too many FPS straight through (Goldeneye and RFOM being the two exceptions) so hopefully this will keep me interested for a while.

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raztad
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:56:34 PM

@Chicko

Wait, at least, till Feb 5 and try it by yourself.

Now I think the First Person cover system is NEW in FPS. That cover system is not like Rainbow Six Vegas's (first person view changes to third person when covering) so you are always immersed in the game.

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ec0li
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:54:31 PM
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9.7 I saw that rating in my dream. It's a nice time to be a gamer when titles like K2 are just right around the corner. Amidst all the negative talks about Sony's situation, they bust this gem out for gamers to feast on and for naysayers to choke on.

I liked the review. =)

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:59:14 PM
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the 2nd no
the third i played the demo that came with crackdown,and yes i bought crackdown for the demo,so don't tell me i haven't tried, now gears on the other hand is just wicked , i just love that game

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:00:49 PM

Just try the 2nd and 3rd one. Much better then the first imo.

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Shatterday
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 3:59:30 PM
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Awesome review Arnold!

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IonHawk
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:06:25 PM
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Awesome news! Soooo looking forward to this game!
Btw, Arnold, how is the checkpoint spacing - I'm still disappointed by current-gen games that insist on unskippable cutscenes and place checkpoints just before them, so you end up seeing the same cutscene again and again if the skirmish that follows it is a bit on the tough side(*cough* Legendary *cough*)

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:27:03 PM

Checkpoints are frequent and very good. Definitely something I liked a lot about the game.

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PS3_Wizard
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:12:33 AM

Wow, you are one of the 10 people in the world who played Legendary.

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:12:06 PM
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i guess i can afford it now , and i recently got my dodge challenger srt8, hey arnold wanna take ur 350 for a drive

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:15:44 PM

Got got one huh? I seen a SE the other day.

Maybe we should all just shut up and rip apart the streets. Ill take out the 06 GT to add to the fun.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:15:10 PM
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Wait, Josh, are you going back to that sales thing again? Halo 3 is very popular because it is one of the only three games xboxers have. You can guess the others. The key is that the game just does everything FPS better, not that it has the biggest following. And since when does a sequel having new guns and surroundings make it groundbreaking? Some people's kids...

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:17:26 PM

Did you just say 360 has no games? lol...

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Frenchy17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:31:03 PM

It has no games that I can't play on my PC :p

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godslim
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:11:02 PM

the only good game 360 has is gears of war....everything else my ps3 has better

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:27:39 PM

I guess I did Josh.

WORLD is the maximum and that's the law, K_I-Double-L-A I'm RAW!

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:17:18 PM

^^^Fanboy statements. Right in print.

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Fatcat3788
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:39:24 PM

I don't understand you Joshua. Sometime you come on this site and bring something nice to the table and then sometimes you just get all defensive about your xbox. Seriously dude... WE DO NOT CARE THAT YOU LOVE YOUR XBOX. Go ahead and love it but we don't need you to tell us on every article that is written. It's times like these that I put you on the same level as WASIM...

As for the TOPIC of the article. All I can say is I cannot wait for this beast. It never looked so satisfying to shoot someone! Thanks for the heads up Arnold (and Ben) you have sealed my decision for a day 1 purchase.

Last edited by Fatcat3788 on 2/2/2009 10:44:55 PM

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PS3_Wizard
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:15:28 AM

Wasim is the biggest Dickhead in the world. Don't bring his name up please.

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:20:23 PM
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dude i'm loving it although when i went to the dealership , i saw the new viper and i was like damn WTH V10 ENGINE , i used to have a 2002 mustang gt nave-blue convertable. i took it from my bro . i never was a mustang guy i always loved the dodge . and i made my mind as soon as i watched deathproof .

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:28:27 PM

Yeah I had the pleasure of driving my uncles 07 GT500. Now that was a blast.

Them new Vipers got 600HP right out of the box. Its insane what you can buy off the dealership nowadays.

Hope your enjoying that SRT. That 6.2 Hemi is just calling for the open road.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:28:09 PM

Hey Teg, if you live in the NY area, by all means shoot me an email and we'll setup a meet for some pics and stuff.

Last edited by ArnoldK PSXE on 2/2/2009 5:28:28 PM

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tattedout
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:12:53 PM

@ TEG.have you seen the srt 10 challenger ? now thats a monster

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:21:09 PM
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i have to agree with josh on this one

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moose88
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:21:30 PM
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Cheers for the review. I am so pumped for this game!

Now, back to work for the next 3 weeks! Maybe some Sackboy to ease the stress.

My plan is to grab KZ2 the moment it drops and play it's Campaign + MP every spare hour until RE5 comes to take over my life.

I am a Zombie-phile with Zombie-Phobia. w00t!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:28:29 PM

Sackboy's stuffing=hemp

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:34:11 PM
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re5 is not that much, loved the fourth so much more maybe the demo is wack who knows???

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TEG3SH
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:35:15 PM
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i know i just hate those damn cops

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Redx17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:53:32 PM
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can't wait to get this awesome ps3 only game
well by early next year ps3 WILL pass 360 in sales/better games, ect..., all the good stuff. i'm loving the ride

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PS3_Wizard
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:19:03 AM

OOO nice Avatar!

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:58:41 AM

^^^Fanboy? You dont see me with a wrecked PS3..

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MetalHead09
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:30:04 PM

josh you would have to be able to find one first lol

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:32:32 PM

Nice... :P

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shaydey77
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 4:59:41 PM
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First review Ive ever read for a game.EVER. I'd just like to say Thanks for it. You seem to give an honest and unbiased opinion which i respect. Im a big FPS fan anyway but this is the first time I've ever heard one so hyped since HALO. Im just hoping I can get mine soon!!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:30:41 PM
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'sigh'

Josh, I'll make this simple: unless someone specifically asks you something about the Xbox 360 or one of its games, you are no longer allowed to keep bringing up the subject IN EVERY SINGLE TOPIC YOU POST IN. I've looked very closely at the past few weeks, and you just can't stop.

I'm issuing a temporary ban the next time it happens. I've concluded you only post here to defend your favorite system against attacks and if you want to do that and can't manage to stay on topic (which you can never do, apparently), then we don't need you.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 2/2/2009 5:31:26 PM

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AceTatsujin
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:13:12 PM

about time.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:29:37 PM

He's not allowed to rent here anymore.

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MirrorSoul
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:53:21 PM

In the words of that dude in the first Starcraft 2 Debut trailer "Bout Da&m Time"

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bamf
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:15:51 PM

In every article Josh posts in he causes fanboy arguments. Trying to convince he rest of us that what he likes and is biased to is better than what the rest of us like.

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Schmitty
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:58:28 PM

BEN FTMFW

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:02:40 PM

If people can just say they love the PS3 without dogging the Xbox I dont why I would ever make a rude remark.

But then again...

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:16:39 PM

Ill stop if they stop.

But it has to go both ways.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:44:43 PM

NO. You will stop because I TOLD you to stop.

The warning stands: no more mention of the 360 or its games from you. If it's warranted, fine, if I say it's NOT, then I will act.

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vicious54
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:46:25 PM

@Joshua

I love the ps3, blu-rays are the best. Sound and video, can't beat it.

See I didn't even mention the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray.

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Fatcat3788
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:55:23 PM

Seems my angry comment left above was pointless. The problem was already taken care of...
(phew!)

Last edited by Fatcat3788 on 2/2/2009 10:55:39 PM

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tanner1
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 5:35:57 PM
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Great review A.K got it on pre order 4 £29.99 (45 USD)

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somethingrandom
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:05:23 PM
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WHY DID THIS ARTICLE GET RELEASED WHILE I WAS AT SCHOOL! I knew I was going to buy this game the day I found out it existed (mostly because of praise by one of my friends who owns the original one).

A 9.7? Are you serious?!?! This game is the best FPS of all time, but it got a score less than GRAND THEFT AUTO 4? Best console graphics ever...
...but a 9.6?

The bots in this game will aid me greatly (poor internet connection).

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somethingrandom
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:30:12 PM

BTW if any1 wants to add me (for gaming purposes) my psn ID is GIVEMEIT. Just make sure you say something about who you are in the request so I don't block you...

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AceTatsujin
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:14:26 PM
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yea i was wondering, 9.6 for the graphics? whats K2 missing in the graphic part? It is not a big issue for the remaining 0.4 but now we want to know, what excatly didn't you guys like or didn't apply in K2 that made you choose 9.6? would appreciate it if you could tell us.

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ffrulez
Saturday, February 07, 2009 @ 4:16:07 AM

Ok, it's way too grey. Compare Killzone 2's review with MGS4's. This game just doesnt cut it.

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ffrulez
Friday, February 27, 2009 @ 3:27:00 AM

NEVER MIND! The game has AWESOME graphics!!! It was just the demo lol

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Lord carlos
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:28:45 PM
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don't feed the troll,attention makes it even more hungry.
it'll go back into its cave if we ignore it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:30:24 PM

I heard it eats broken Xboxes and craps Halo games.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:09:54 PM

I hear it has potential. And that next year will be its year.

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BigBoss4ever
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 6:54:27 PM
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as great as it is, FPS is not my type. will pass on. enjoy the game for those who love the genre!

my time will come when FF13, v13, GOW3, WKC, ICO3, Star Ocean 4... are released.

Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 2/2/2009 6:55:57 PM

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bamf
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:19:19 PM

Can't wait for those games too but fortunately for me I like FPS too.
I'm not keen on RPG's but if its a top one like FF13, then I'm in.

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rell
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:35:37 PM
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To some gamers that have doubts about kz2 trust arnold he gave a very good review, I can't wait until thursday.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 7:45:59 PM
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Seriously, Halo is alright, I like certain games on all systems but it's fun to screw off sometimes too, long as no one takes it personally.

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NightHawk17
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:15:01 PM

yeah Halo 3 had some good features, for example the camera system that constantly records online matches and allowed you to save the ones you wanted on your hard drive

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Deleted User
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:00:42 PM

^^^I love that. You can record the ownage.

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ec0li
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:55:37 PM

It goes both ways. You can also record the failage. The craziest things always happen in a multiplayer session in Halo3 that amazes me. There's just no words to describe the myriad and insane ways players die. It's so satisfying to watch these things happen in theater. For nonhalo players, google Halo 3 videos and watch them...it's hilarious.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:57:35 AM

^^^Agreed. Youtube has plenty to watch.

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Lord carlos
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:07:38 PM
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@worldendswithme
THATS ALOT OF XBOXES ;p
halo is the best of the three,halo2 great,halo3 was a let down much like gta4(even though they both sold 8 bjillion copies each)
i don't know when halo became the 'shooter to end all shooters'but it was firmly put in its place by half life 2 and every shooter since HL2 that i've PLAYED,all have 2 line up,get on their knee's and suck CRYSIS's C**K.
That FPS game is the one to beat,and hopefully killzone 2 can knock it off its perch!!!
So no more halo this or halo that,i'm forking sick of hearing about it.

Last edited by Lord carlos on 2/2/2009 8:13:55 PM

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orangpelupa
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 8:44:56 PM
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thanks arnold for the review!

too bad i cant play fps with gamepad >_<

btw about the 9.6 graphic score, when we get KZ2 on our hand, we will see it ourself whether 9.6 is right or its should be 10.

27 feb is not too far :D

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:20:20 PM

What do you do use a keyboard?

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:03:27 PM
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About the graphics, I don't understand why people are complaining. It's clearly not perfect. The framerate isn't 60, and the resolution isn't 1080p. Also, there are some very minor hits of slowdown, very rare but there. And you'll spot the occasional sloppy texture or two, as well.

As far as the GTAIV comparison...well, I didn't review that. If it were up to me, the game would've scored far, far less. I didn't think much of GTAIV, if anyone cares. Yes, I did complete 3/4 of the game, but did it wow me? Eh. I think it's a really good game, but not as great as others make it to be - the whole cartoon look needs to go and the game engines have to stop being so sloppy.

Last edited by ArnoldK PSXE on 2/2/2009 9:03:59 PM

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ps92117
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:13:17 PM

I am glad we don't have a fanboy for a reviewer, and yeah I here that it does have some visible slowdowns, which might have been avoided if they had an install.

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ec0li
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:15:43 PM

Thumbs up! Stand by your review my man. 9.6 graphics isn't even something to complain about. It's in the upper echelon for this generation of games and that's what is important. Some guys just want things to be perfect for some crazy reason.

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Fatcat3788
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:44:16 PM

Completely agree with you Arnold. You are not the only one that thought GTAIV was overrated... (BTW overrated doesn't mean it isn't great...)

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:37:26 PM

Amen! I still can come to play through GTA4! Modern Warfare isnt as good graphically as W@W and COD4 still owns it...

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NealRad
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:36:10 PM
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Played the beta... it was really amazing
cant call it a halo killer though cuz they are two very very different games besides genre i guess [sci-fi]
And i know people will be mad at this but i will warn some of you that a lot of people will be disappointed. for starters this game is overhyped and many people are expecting the most godlike thing ever. Second, it just wont be some people's cup of tea. Not trying to start fights, just sayin some truth. I love the game though and will be a first day buy for me.
When i first played it i thought the graphics looked like shit. Thats just how good they look. lol theyre amazing.
I already am highest rank in the multiplayer for KZ2 i wish they will keep me that when game comes but i doubt it.
PSN: Radev25
Live: KillerNReal

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ceedot
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 9:41:46 PM
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Why are people so dumb enough to say 'good work ben' all the time when he didn't even write it?

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somethingrandom
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:05:40 PM

habit?

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LCF
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:51:03 PM

Ben works harder for his peanuts.

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Xanavi23
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:11:55 AM

my guess is they see Ben post more, so they think he does more of the writing work.

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ZubraZap
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:10:52 PM
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"..especially considering that it's a sequel to a rather poor PlayStation 2 shooter."

Quotes like that are why I can never finish your reviews Arnie. Just because the game didn't sell well and was sweeped under the Halo hype didn't mean it was a poor PS2 shooter. Yes I understand reviews are mostly opinion based yet I couldn't help but point out how that above quote pretty much somes up what every other major publication wrote on the game when it first came out. Did you even play Killzone 1? Although I'd love to tear apart what you wrote abut GTA IV in th above comments this is a Killzone 2 posting and what you wrote was entirely opinion based so I have no worries retaining what I was about to write.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:00:53 AM

What? Of course I played Killzone 1. And yes, it was a poor game when compared to other FPS games at the time. And as for my GTAIV bit, the only reason it was brought up was because someone else had mentioned that we scored it's visuals higher, so I gave an explanation.

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:41:37 PM

Gotta give it to Arnold...someone else said it best "BTW overrated doesn't mean it isn't great..." GTA wasn't the best graphically compared to MGS4 or Gears even.

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loopid
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:25:56 PM
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@joshua360
I'm curious... why do you comment on a web site called "psxextreme.com." are you that desperate for attention? are mom and dad fighting or divorced? u know there is a big brother program out there that can help if you need attention. im not trying to be funny.

Last edited by loopid on 2/2/2009 10:26:54 PM

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:55:47 AM

I dont have parents. So nice remark dick.

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LCF
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 10:57:45 PM
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Arnold, not to nit-pick but 9.6 on graphics? The animations alone warrant a 10. Even Crysis does not have such fluid animations let alone any other console game on the planet.

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:33:45 PM

he just explained that

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Akuma07
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:31:18 PM
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coulda rated it the same as MGS4 and GTA4 =[

still. good review.
but it shouldnt take a good review for all you guys to know your going to buy it ;]

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BeezleDrop
Monday, February 02, 2009 @ 11:37:36 PM
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Killzone owns hoes, is ODST that game called Old Dusty Smelly Thespians? Akira on Bluray!

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LCF
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 12:24:33 AM
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It's a shame really. Anyone and some have gave this game a perfect score would be labeled a fanboy and not base it on it's merits. So some reviewers would knock the score down on purpose, just NOT to be labeled a fanboy. This game should be reviewed for what it does right, not what it does wrong. All reviewers should have this mentality for every game.

Arnold I agree with most of what you stated in the review. Though I will test out the audio of this game on the 27th. But the Graphic score is not what I expected. This game made a comparison run against the top graphic PC game that is Crysis, no other console game has done that. I'm sorry Arnold, but no soup for you.

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Xanavi23
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:11:14 AM

You know something?

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:45:17 AM

What kind of soup?

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Xanavi23
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:08:41 PM

Mulligatawny

(Seinfeld reference)

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:45:28 PM

Mmmm....Souuup! :P

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dlte
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:01:44 AM
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I can't wait for the demo on Thursday!

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orangpelupa
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:47:16 AM
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@worldsendwu
yeah. im stuck with KB+M for FPS.
i really cant play FPS using gamepad. last time i played BFBC, i throw my gamepad to wall.
thankgod its not broken.

on the otherhand, my pc already too slow to play games at stable FPS.
and console (ps3, x360) get more and more FPS.

i really should train my fingers for playing FPS on gamepad.

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Banky A
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:06:47 AM
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EVERYONE READ THIS!!!!!!1111one11!!eleven

2 new links about Killzone 2 for you guys to laugh at ;)

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/44420/Eurogamer-Defends-Its-Exclusive-KillZone-2-Review

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Batman-Vs-KillZone-2-Super-HD-Comparison-14964.html

1st link: 95% of the commenters on there sounded like morons! I just couldn't take them seriously.

2nd link: I don't really have a problem but it's comparing Killzone 2 to Batman: Dark Asylum, which I'd never see coming(?).
And William Usher is ALWAYS negative about PS3 exclusives in some way.

:P

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ffrulez
Saturday, February 07, 2009 @ 4:15:08 AM

awesome typo!!??!?!!!one!!!!?!?!two!!!1!!1!!!typo!!>!>!23!

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:16:25 AM
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Hey! Look what I found on G4's site (anyone know this fanboy d-bag?):

Joshua360 - Monday, February 2, 2009 8:44 PM

It's ironic how PS3 fanboys talk crap about 360 having only great quality shooters on the system, now PS3 has one little shooter with no co-op to help save their dying console and now they think it's the greatest thing in the world.

Well this game won't save your system. Little big planet couldn't, MGS4 couldn't, Socom was dead on arrival.

So now you're relying on a game that has basically copied everything COD has done. Very original.

360 wins again.

Last edited by xnonsuchx on 2/3/2009 3:16:44 AM

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LightShow
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:44:51 AM

there probably is reasonable doubt that that isn't the same person, just because "josh360" is a fairly simple username, and i'm sure there's more than one xbox player named josh.

that said, whoever it is is not only a dumbass, but a dumbass that can't keep his facts factual. pretty much everything he said is either inaccurate or flat out wrong.

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Random_Steve
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:45:46 AM

nice find lol. it's funny cos most of their 'exclusives' are on PC (Left 4 dead, Mass effect)so their not actually exclusives

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Deleted User
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:54:22 AM

Not the same person.

Try again.

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:27:38 AM
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So yes, X-Play (which I know a lot of you hate) easily gave K2 a 5 out of 5. Their only complaints were:

* Aggressively average campaign
* No co-op mode
* Slightly mushy controls

They gave it a full ~5-minute review, split into 2 parts...Morgan covering Campaign mode; Adam covering Online Multiplayer mode.

"One of the best-looking next gen games PERIOD"...but, "We'd gladly trade some of the flashy graphics for quicker controls."

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city96
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:58:58 AM
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WOW hell of alot of comments but yeah great review arnoldK

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Xanavi23
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:10:24 AM
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Lotta comments some being rubbish. Anyway, great review Arnold, ya got me sold on the Launch date, it taking priority.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:18:04 AM
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I think I'm going to keep JoshuaAdam360 around. His last post with a list of "exclusive" games was just too comically stupid to not have around anymore.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:23:08 AM

Because its smarter to just talk about em a year and a half before they launch?

This is sounding familiar..early 08 anyone?

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:47:33 PM

I was laughing when I read that post. Is he really that stupid? I dont usually pay his posts any attention, but that was golden.

Ask a 360 fanboy to name exclusives, and he gives you every multiplat game coming out in the next year.

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ffrulez
Friday, February 06, 2009 @ 9:35:13 PM

I dont care, I dont care, I dont care! Why the hell would I want to know about a console I dont own?

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Minishmaru
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:28:21 AM
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Damn it! Now I gotta get a surround sound system...cuz with tax refunds and you're review on the audio alone...I don't think I can play it without that whole experience. Damn you and your thorough reviews!!!

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Alienange
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:46:50 AM
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These comments are a tough read. The article was great though.

I had no intention of getting K2 any time soon but it's starting to look like a blockbuster. If MP is that good I might have to splurge sooner than later. Can I possibly finish MGS4 and F3 before month end?

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raztad
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 11:20:55 AM
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Now that reviews are out, just few left, I am a bit worried about future reviews for PS3 exclusive games. Let me explain, If KZ2 clearly a masterpiece that has truly raised the bar got some 8s, I dont doubt those "reviewers" will be very much aggressive against other expected but not so hyped exclusives, I foresee infamous getting a 8.2 and Prototype at least a solid 9. MAG will get a 8 for not having Single player mode and being too much crowded, and so on.

What do you think about this guys?

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loopid
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 11:47:03 AM
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@ joshua360
well that explains it than. you don't own a ps3 but your a member of a ps fan site. your name has "360" in it. of course this is the only place you get attention from. I knew something was up. but seriously... look into that big brother program because you really need some attention.

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Randomhero1
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 12:43:14 PM
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I cant wait to play KZ2, The graphics Look amazing! and so does the gameplay.

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GamerKid123
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:39:01 PM
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Isn't it funny how a nice review can turn into a hate page between JoshuaAdam360 and others... SHUT UP AND BE ON TOPIC! (...And breath...)

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cheng
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:45:36 PM
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is killzone2 the 1st console game to be compared to crysis?? i thought gears 2 could be the 1st, cos that game looks pretty damn good to me 0_0

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LCF
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:04:00 PM

The only thing different with the Unreal engine 3.5 is "tighter" textures. Two things different from gears 1 and 1.5.

Gears 1 - Gear 1.5
Blue Hue - Brown-Orange Hue
4 layer tex -"Tighter" 4 Layer Textures.

Because of this tighter textures, the GPU in X360 has a difficult time processing. So the game runs alot slower. Test it yourself. Pop in Gears 1.5 in 1st and play it for an hour. Then pop in Gears 1 you'll know what im talking about. There is a huge process speed difference. 1.5 even takes longer for the textures to load. Oh when I say play it, I mean play the multiplayer. All online multiplayer games use alot of the processor power. Trust me I had such high hopes on gears 1.5 and let down in so many ways.

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Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:10:19 PM
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Josh

Your just being facetious; Your arguments hold little water, but YET you continue with your rancid comments. Your, " I am not saying Killzone 2 sucks, but I am doubtful weather it is going surpass Halo 3" comments contradict your [sometimes] inane actions. You act like a fanboy but claim that you have nothing against the ps3 or it's fans. I am not saying that you are a fanboy, but sometimes you act like it. It's like your a teenage female on her period. Sometimes you ACTUALLY conduce to the community, but sometimes, you go on a rampage causing anarchy.

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boevski6979
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 8:54:05 AM
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Playstation told me on the phone that the beta won't be available until the 9th of Feb. and not the 5th. I am still going to try on the 5th, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work.

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Banky A
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:24:05 PM

Awww, you mean the single player demo?

;(

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LCF
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:32:17 PM
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For the record. Remember you are playing on a world that has a stronger gravity than Earth. The Helghst have adapted to this planet. Hope your heavy ass can win the fight haha.

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boevski6979
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:49:50 AM
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The beta code that you got if you pre-ordered the game won't work until the 9th

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ZubraZap
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:10:52 PM
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The demo is so freaking sweet! You can shoot the Helghast's helmets off now AHAHAHA! The end cinema is a treat. Any one know the name of that beautiful sonnet going on in the Helghast Deaths Teaser after you finish the demo?

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ffrulez
Friday, February 06, 2009 @ 9:36:12 PM

It's random shooting off their helmets, cos they look weird. :S

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boevski6979
Friday, February 06, 2009 @ 11:09:31 AM
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Ok PS was wrong lol. Demo was too short. But I cannot wait for this game to come out. 3 more weeks!

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XxTotalzxX
Saturday, February 07, 2009 @ 7:36:40 AM
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When does it come out in the UK? Is it the same day as the US? Cos that would be a nice change, nothing against the US, but it's a bit unfair they get everything earlier :(

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Ghost
Sunday, February 08, 2009 @ 12:24:13 AM
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Great review!! Killzone 2, bound to be the FPS of 2009! It will kick A$$ for sure, no doubt! I can't wait to play a demo and furthermore buy it when it is released. I am also a lover of both X-Box 360 and PS3, I own both!!! I love COD4 and don't own Halo3! I think Killzone 2 is a 10/10 and will decimate all FPS that lay in it's path!!!!!

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miro_the_cat
Sunday, February 08, 2009 @ 5:18:03 AM
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I am amazed by the comments that Killzone 2 does nothing significantly new... God, I remember when "sheer sense of immersion" was enough to mark a game out as the next step forward - anyone remember Tomb Raider? "Atmosphere and sense of immersion" made this a stand out game for most reviewers. But in reality, all it did was bring together elements that other games had already done: platforming, fmv, story line, music and puzzling. Killzone 2 does the same: incredible immersion by way of the best graphics (in totality) that has been seen. Stunning use of sound. Realistic physics. Great AI. A fantastic cover system that brings a pacing to the game that suddenly makes me realise that, for all its spit and polish, COD4 was missing. You can of course play chunks of this game in standard fps way, but you can also play like you are in Full Metal Jacket.

Halo is a fun game, but has always felt kind of "fantastic" to me, which fits its futuristic scenario, but makes it less than authentic in feel. COD 4 is amazing, but at heart a standard fps. Just a bloody amazing one. Half Life is a brilliant mix of puzzling, shooting and humour, but never REALLY feels like you are fighting a way, just a series of skirmishes against very good AI.

No, Killzone 2 really raises the bar on immersion and gameplay opportunities. I have watched a number of people who've posted videos of playing the demo on youtube, and each person plays this short demo in a different way. Personally I like to take my time, staking out a position and using cover and environmental objects (particularly flammable ones) to launch surprise attacks. But a more offensive approach works just as well, only differently. Those Helghast respond in an amazing variety of ways depending on how you fight them.

Oh well, going on much too long now. Personally, I think in a 6 months time or so when the next fps hits, people WILL be comparing retrospectively to Killzone 2, saying, "why is this game not as immersive as KZ2, why is the AI not as creative, why are the graphics not as incredible, why does it just not feel as real...?"

We'll see.

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newchef
Monday, July 20, 2009 @ 10:29:42 PM

six months later and still nothing compares even closely to KZ2 in its immersion

KZ2 forever

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DarkPharaoh2091
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 @ 10:34:36 PM
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2 more weeks and then i'll be online ready to dominate anyone that tries to take me on!!!

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Arkhon
Friday, February 27, 2009 @ 4:01:45 PM
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Every time I hear anybody talk about Killzone 2's graphics, they always talk about the framerate, the polygons (if it's such an awesome-looking game, it should be using NURBs, which I'm sure it does), the resolution, etc. They all seem to ignore what I personally think is the most important element of any game's visuals: the art.

I get incredibly surprised remarks from my friends when I tell them that I prefer the visuals from Halo 3 to the ones from Gears of War 2, which beats it in all the quantifiable areas (resolution, NURBs, framerate, etc.). I love the aesthetic of the vehicles in Halo 3, and think that everything in it just has a better look. Skyboxes are another thing I usually look at. The skyboxes from TES IV: Oblivion are gorgeous.

My question is, how is the art in Killzone 2?

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Nerull
Sunday, March 15, 2009 @ 6:19:34 PM
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I played the demo a while ago and gotta say, it was ok but it really didn't blow me away and think man I have to have this, unlike GoWIII.
Partly because the markets flooded with FPS and they were never my fav genre to begin with but even still, I'm playing it in 720p and the graphics just don't seem over and above a bunch of other what's already been done. The setting looks like another industrial wasteland that has been done 1000 times before. The tiny bits I've seen of the other main marines make them sound like the same dumbass macho marines that have been done a 1000 times before, just like gears. Where the hell is all the hype coming from? I mean its obviously a better exclusive than Haze but thats not saying much.
And one last thing, those landing craft have bugged me from the start, much like the mooing mechs from MGS4, as being an incredibly retarded design. It's like they're TRYING to make sure they get killed before they even reach the surface.

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Arkhon
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 @ 10:14:18 PM
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It's really funny how every time I hear people talking about Killzone 2, they are always saying how over-rated it is. I knew this would happen, just as it did with Halo 3. Both are good games, but people hate both because they think they are over-rated and don't live up to the hype. My solution to this would be to stop paying attention to hype, but nobody seems to listen to me.

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Lionheart377
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 6:15:07 AM
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The only game that I have ever pre-ordered

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gOoN77
Sunday, June 21, 2009 @ 9:29:56 PM
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This game is extremely over rated. The controls are slow and sluggish and online play isn't very good. Also, it is definetely not better than Modern Warfare.

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furbiesmustdie
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 @ 3:57:27 AM
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UNCHARTED WAS BETTER! i just think this one was just a little bit over hyped. oh it's good but it's wasn't brilliant. the single player wasn't as good as cod 4's and it's more or less the same with the multiplayer. nether the less if you have a ps3 check it out.

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