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Alpha Protocol Review

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Graphics:

 

5.2

Gameplay:

 

5.5

Sound:

 

5.9

Control:

 

5.6

Replay Value:

 

6.3

Overall Rating:       5.8

 

 

Online Gameplay:

Not Rated

Publisher:

Sega

Developer:

Obsidian Entertainment

Number Of Players:

1

Genre:

RPG

We really enjoy the stories of persevering studios, those that managed to work through a series of setbacks and delays to eventually provide gamers with a polished and appreciated product. You will often hear about these feel-good results for years after the embattled developer releases an impressive title, but the failures fade into obscurity. Sadly, Alpha Protocol falls into the latter category. We’ve been waiting on Obsidian’s “espionage/RPG” for quite a long time and on the surface, the concept and premise were both very promising. The apparent goal was to expand on the sci-fi, plot-based structure of an epic like Mass Effect, and then combine this with the covert spy atmosphere of James Bond. Sounds quite appealing, no? Well, if you can somehow find a way to overlook the mediocre gameplay so as to enjoy the storyline, you might just be able to work your way through Alpha Protocol. …but it’s far more likely that the glaring flaws and severe lack of refinement will prove far too disappointing and frustrating.

The graphics vie with the gameplay for the dubious honor of being called the worst part of the adventure. These visuals very much remind me of a PC game from about a decade ago. It’s very bland and stark; far too much of the environment is merely painted in, the entire atmosphere feels lifeless and decidedly devoid of intricate detail, and the animations can be stiff and jerky. There are a myriad of technical issues as well, including major clipping, silly collision detection issues (has anyone caught on to the fact that PC-based software, or software from PC-oriented devs, seems to suffer from this one significant flaw more than anything else?), and boring, generic effects. We can interact with almost nothing in the immediate vicinity; level design is standard and rarely allows for much in the way of exploration/approach ingenuity, and when up close and personal, most everything fails the critical inspection. I suppose the one highlight might be some solid face detailing and animation, but beyond that, it’s just ugly.

The sound is a bit better, mostly due to some decent voice acting and a soundtrack that is fitting yet repetitive and uninspired. There is a great deal of talking, so that can be a benefit; the main character, Michael Thornton, sounds all right and there are a few other characters who sound quite genuine and realistic. Unfortunately, they put little to no effort in giving us a musical score that really enhances our immersion; it’s appropriate, yes, but it’s nowhere near prominent enough. And the big technical problem focuses on the terrible balance issue: music and effects can be all over the place; one minute, one greatly overrides the other and the next, it’s vice versa. It’s just another example of the buggy nature of this lackluster role-playing experience, and it even seemed to get worse the more I played. There are plenty of different weapons but far too many sound exactly alike, some of your skills and abilities don’t receive any help from accompanying effects that can often disappear entirely, and overall, the graphics and sound are well below par.

If Obsidian had still come through in regards to the gameplay, we could’ve overlooked at least a few of the visual and audio shortcomings. Besides, even if there are a few problems with particular elements of the gameplay, maybe we could’ve advised you to simply avoid sneaking and treat it like a third-person shooter. After all, the entire purpose of Alpha Protocol is to promote choice and freedom: you can choose the type of operative you will be, you can distribute experience points however you see fit, and even better, there are literally hundreds of different ways to interact with those you meet. The latter feature is by far the most attractive part of the game but before we get to that, we have to address the serious issues that plague the general mechanics. Sure, you can choose to be a Soldier and specialize in weaponry and explosive combat tactics, or you can stick to the shadows and enhance your stealth and gadgetry knowledge. But either way, you end up with a mostly poor setup; i.e., it’s either a dreadfully mediocre Splinter Cell or it’s a dreadfully mediocre third-person shooter.

Let’s take my experience as an example (and I guess you kinda have to): being a fan of games like Splinter Cell, I really wanted to create a Field Agent – “an intelligence specialist” who excels in “both stealth and infiltration” – with a special emphasis on shadowy, deadly effectiveness. For the record, your other options are the aforementioned Soldier, Tech Specialist (“mastery over computers and electronics”), and Freelancer (“an independent contractor who has chosen his own way”). But anyway, back to my quest. So one of the first things I do is sneak up behind a foe and perform a takedown with the simple press of a button. That was kinda cool. I noticed that snapping into and out of cover was a little jerky and erratic, but I figured it would suffice. Than I went to shoot an enemy with my tranquilizer dart and immediately encountered the first major flaw; the aiming reticle was trained directly on his upper back and I missed. Worse yet, he somehow knew I was firing at him and he turned and attacked. The next strike came when I nailed a dude with my dart when he was just inside a doorway… He collapsed, the door inexplicably closed, and when I opened it, the body was gone.

You don’t even have the option of carrying bodies out of the sight of other roving enemies, and that sight scope is all sorts of screwy. Sometimes, they’ll see a body from a ridiculous distance and other times, they’ll fail to notice when their felled comrade is right nearby. And no matter how you build your character, you never have access to some of the really cool gadgets you often see in stealth-based adventures. It got exceedingly boring just sneaking up behind people and taking them down, only to return to the shadows, rinse and repeat. So I tried the straightforward approach and started over with the intention of attacking the game as a third-person shooter. Okay, so more collision detection issues – regardless of the weapon I have equipped – and overall, just a lame, generic shooting mechanic that gets tiresome within the hour. It really seems as if there’s a lot of inherent depth; there are plenty of available skills and tools, for instance, but none of them really seem to add any flash or flavor.

Then there are the downright awful mini-mechanics used for hacking computers, bypassing alarm systems, and picking locks. Okay, that last one isn’t too bad; you just carefully hold the R2 button so the pins line up and then hit the L2 button to snap them into place. That’s just fine, I suppose. But the other two…holy God. To hack a computer, you have to stare at a screen of blinking code and somehow manage to find the small group of letters and numbers that match a designated string before time runs out. And, you have to do it twice. Then there’s cutting circuits for bypassing alarms; this requires you to trace a circuit to the outer edge, where you’d cut the wire by pressing a button. It sounds easy, but you have to cut each in order and tracing the maze-like circuit out of the box with your eyes is a ridiculous chore; the circuits all blend together and again, it’s timed. It’s just a mess. I also noticed that certain gadgets you could utilize didn’t function effectively or reliably.

Like I said earlier, the only good part is the fact that you can adopt different “stances” when dealing with other characters. In certain situations, you are given the opportunity to respond and you can choose from a variety of options, including Professional, Aggressive, and Suave. Depending on how you respond, the character will say something different and this does indeed directly affect the storyline. Furthermore, you can conduct research on any character you will interact with, thereby allowing you to figure out what approach would work best with them. There are even times when you can perform an action during a conversation to take the other person by surprise. Due to the large number of times you select a stance, there are any number of branching possibilities, and the many characters can respond to you in a bunch of different ways. The only downside is that you have a certain amount of time to pick a stance, which wouldn’t be so bad, but the time bar starts counting down before the character has even finished their statement or question. This leads to times when you have mere seconds to pick a stance once you’ve heard everything you need to hear.

But hey, it works out well. It’s really a blessing because it’s the only thing that kept me playing for a while. Eventually, though, all the severe problems began to pile up and infect most every movement I made. Nothing seems catastrophically bad but at the same time, nothing seems right, either. This game feels and looks very, very outdated and anyone who plays it will recall many games that did something better; we’ve seen far better role-playing, action, and stealth mechanics and in all honesty, I doubt this game would’ve been considered anything special even four or five years ago. We’ve already heard bad things about the development process and in the end, this is one project that should’ve been nixed. I just can’t figure out why someone somewhere didn’t stand up and say this would bomb…I mean, it’s painfully obvious. I just don’t get it.

6/1/2010 Ben Dutka

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Comments (98 posts)

tridon
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 12:42:23 PM
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Wow. A 5.8? I can honestly say that I saw that coming. Whenever a game gets pushed back as much as this one has, you know you're in for a craptacular gaming session.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 3:47:48 PM

STOP replying to spam. You have to realize these are not PEOPLE. They're BOTS. They don't know anything 'cuz they're not sentient beings.

So just don't bother; we can delete a bot and all his posts in seconds.

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RadioHeader
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:22:49 PM

"They're BOTS. They don't know anything 'cuz they're not sentient beings."

I don't like their choice of console but that seems a little strong.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 3:05:30 PM

Easy fellas, when we reply to these Ben has to delete our comments too. Just ignore them. Sorry Ben.

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CharlesD
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 1:15:13 PM
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Ok, I knew this one wasn't going to be raking in any awards but this is worse than I expected. I know the review is accurate I guess I just didn't grasp how much of an epic fail it was going to be.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 1:15:39 PM
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Oh snap, even lower then Ben originally thought he would give it.

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BusyBeingBorn
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 1:38:12 PM
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Sad, I was really looking forward to this. No I don't know what to think about New Vegas

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BlackBriar
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 1:39:25 PM
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Damn! I was hoping this game would be good, I'll give it rent. Watch this game drop from a $60 to $40 or more,by the end of the month.

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kraygen
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 1:54:02 PM
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It's actually higher than I expected. When I watched the video's for this game I automatically gave the game a 4 on graphics and dialogue.

Game looks like they designed the main characters face and then made everything else as quickly as they possibly could. All the background is flat and smooth with no texture at all as is most of the clothing and pretty much everything other than the characters face.

People think james bond can sound cheesy, this game sounded like it was written by a drunken james bond wanna be. 5.8 is pretty low, but I think maybe Ben's niceties and politeness might be shining thru. lol.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:01:55 PM
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Ben, you wrote Solider in the fourth paragraph instead of Soldier.

I suppose it's a good thing I never had anything more than a passing interest in this game, but the whole stances for the talking sounds interesting. Alas, that it will be at best a rental for me.
Peace.

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BeezleDrop
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:06:51 PM
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Excluding Gran Turismo 5, when a game is delayed that many times, it cannot be good. Case and point.

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 6:21:13 AM

true that bro true that . GT5 will be awesome :)

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Jalex
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:33:10 PM
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Can't say why exactly, but I think I will respond to this much as I did 'White Knight Chronicles.'
I'm not expecting it to be Game of the Year, but it looks like my kind of game, and I'm still planning on picking it up this week, critical opinion be damned.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 12:25:45 PM

Exactly.

This game is in no way as bad as Ben's review states.

It's not a great game, but it does some really cool things.

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Caanimal
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 11:20:56 PM

I'm about 7 hours into the game and I'm having a blast. Granted it isn't the best looking game on the market, but then again some the best selling games & most played games don't have outstanding graphics, or even great graphics... A good game doesn't have to be cutting edge.

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frylock25
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:41:20 PM
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i watched a few of the videos on the psn. this game always looked generic and cheesy. i am not suprised to hear it sucks this much. whatever plenty of other good games to play anyway.

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Zorigo
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:44:03 PM

oh i agree with that cheesy comment. its so true, i saw a custscene somewhere, and it looked fairly shocking i must say

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Zorigo
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:43:28 PM
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one thing... :D HAHA

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coverton341
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 2:54:24 PM
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Wow. Apparently there is someone here who despite all the overwhelming evidence is just not pleased with the negativity that this game has garnered.

It was a good concept but concepts don't always translate into equal execution.

Maybe they should have axed this game, maybe they should have come out and said they were going to put it on an undetermined hiatus while they rethought the design portion. Hell, maybe they should have enlisted the help of a different studio or designer to give pointers and guidance.

Whatever they should have done and should have made is irrelevant now and I guess we all see what we are left with, crap.

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Sol
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 4:36:03 PM

I agree, beacuse after all I've seen of this game is that it needs more time, but that chance is gone since the game was released.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 3:04:38 PM
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If there was an embargo on this, why was it on sale on ebay for days?

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 3:14:03 PM
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Ouch. And now I know which reviewers not to trust. The ones that gave this a high score.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 3:36:45 PM

Sounds like a decent litmus test.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 4:07:26 PM

Someone disagrees with us in hiding Fluffer.

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tes37
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 5:23:00 PM

__________ was singing it's praises, maybe he's one of your non fans'.

If not, my apologies to _________.

How can you be certain the exact amount of key presses to write his name? I may have been misspelling it.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:32:01 PM

I like to call him Anonymous Cowherd...

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:48:18 PM

__________ thinks Call of Duty should be game of the year along with Splinter Cell and Alan Wake.

Tells you all you need to know.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 7:53:24 PM

@ JawKNEE

yes alan wake deserves a spot in GOTY, Alan wake is awesome, splinter cell although it's not as the same as the old franchise its still good, as for COD now that one sucks.

Dude believe me we all hate M$ but for God sakes man C'mon.

I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD WIN THOUGH

P.S. WHY DO WE ALL HATE MR. BLANK AGAIN ????

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 8:45:56 PM

My dislike of MS has nothing to do with my dislike for Alan Wake. My friend has it, and i didn't see the big deal.

Besides, you and _________ have similar tastes so....

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Oxvial
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 10:04:02 PM

I dont see whats the big deal with Alan Wake too, just looked like an average shooter game with a decent history but bland characters.

Also the sales are really low...wonder if Remedy gonna end selling hotdogs in Helsinki.

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___________
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 3:24:44 AM

WTF i think COD should be GOTY.
dude if you have ever read what i have posted you would know i HATE COD.
that, halo and GTAIV are the most over rated games in the history of the universe!!!

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 6:17:57 AM

@ __________

Dont worry Jawknee is PMSing again.

FYI JAWKNEE, how can we have the same taste while I hate all FPS(except Bioshock), I don't even know whats my taste in games is. YOU BEING THE FANBOY U ARE can't see anything beyond Sony

DUDE GET OVER IT U DON'T OWN THE COMPANY.

P.S. sorry to burst your bubble :(

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___________
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 8:28:34 AM

truth is id quicker give rouge warrior GOTY than any COD title.
and that said rouge warrior wasnt exactly a stellar title, in fact theres a reason why its got a average review score of 6.
wait, for once im actually agreeing with reviews.
faints.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 11:05:25 AM

@_____________ posting on the internet can be a b*tch because what you say stays and you clearly said Call of Duty had a better chance at GOTY then Red Dead Redemption. They are your words now OWN IT!

"no matter how good red dead redemption is, it has absolutely NO chance of getting GOTY this year.
ME2, GOW3, heavy rain, GT5, agent, LA Noire, the last guardian, true crime, mafia 2, crysis 2, crackdown 2, alan wake (which im playing now, AND LOVING!!!!!!!!!!), splinter cell conviction, assassins creed brotherhood, medal of honor, COD black ops, and god knows how many others.
all have a much better chance of getting GOTY.

though i have only heard really good things about it, besides its repetitiveness which is no surprise since it is a R* title.
i got my PSM3 june edition in yesterday and they gave it a 9.5 not bad there normally really hard markers!!!

but than, hey, no one ever thought GTAIV would of got GOTY and it did.
almost every single title that gets GOTY simply does not deserve it!
COD MW over uncharted AND bioshock?
really????????????
come on, both uncharted and bioshock are 100000000000 times better than COD MW!

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@ TEG, your wrong because i buy and play just about everything Nintendo as well. You have displayed time and time again that your tastes like _________ are either odd or at worst poor so i don't really care what your opinion is. not trying to be rude but its the truth. Once again your comment is incoherent and void of substance.

BTW, PMSing i am not. your the one who's butthurt and typing in all caps like so raving lunatic. ;)

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 12:51:42 PM

Apparently the sand in ur vagina can't be brushed off, how is my comment incoherent, I was expressing how Alan Wake is a great game and if it got a GOTY nomination it will be more than fair, if not then who cares.

As for you being a fanboy, you always attack anything on the 360, while most of the times you're talking outta your ass as usual.

You ranting like B**ch for more than 3 paragraphs made me laugh though XD

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:02:36 PM

The fact that you have to resort to petty name calling and attacks proves who the child is.

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:04:25 PM

and a raving lunatic is a compliment ?!

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:11:25 PM

Obviously it was a joke. Your ability to comprehend humor is just as bad your taste in games.


Oooooh, need a disclaimer? that was a joke too.

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sawao_yamanaka
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:15:22 PM

Raving lunatic is not even remotely in the same ballpark. I agree with jawknee I hate anything microsft. Got rid of my 360 ages ago. I only have my wii and ps3 and loving both so sorry to burst your bubble about alan wakes averageness.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:18:55 PM

sawao_yamanaka, add me so we can be "fanboys" together. lol

PSN: Jawknee1

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:20:02 PM

apparently ur sense of humor is just as lame as u, so what ur saying is that I can insult anyone the way I like and then rationalize it by stating it was a joke, dude honestly u are one weird package...

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:25:32 PM

@ sawao

from ur name I can see ur kindda new, I'm not defending M$, I hate M$ but I pay respect where is respect is due and believe me Alan wake is anything other than ordinary

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:32:14 PM

You became unhinged because i said i didn't see what the big deal about Alan Wake was and I'm the weird one?


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:42:53 PM

I wasn't angered because u said that, believe me if u miss out on this great game, its ur loss.

I became unhinged when u tried to nullify my opinion by saying that Alan wake is bad due to my bad taste in gaming, if I liked it that meant it sucked, but as I found out trying to reason with you is as pointless as the second window at Mcdonalds Drive-thru

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:53:28 PM

your opinion hasn't meant anything to me for a long time so why are you surprised?

I suggest you read the conversation again, i didn't attempt to nullify your opinion until after you started ranting about fanboys and owning companies.

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 2:00:18 PM

I could careless about what u think, and u started it by stating and I quote " Besides, you and _________ have similar tastes so...."

and I'm kindda bored with ya and I have other crap to deal with( now thats a good Joke ;) )

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sawao_yamanaka
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 2:46:44 PM

I post here although not as often but I was disappointed to say the least in alan wake. I do like remedy as a developer but this is not there best effort that's why reviewers weren't praising it as much. I'll pay respect if it deserves it but it doesn't. I'll add you jawknee when I'm back on. :P yes we will be "fanboys".

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 4:02:18 PM

What the hell is this...?

Don't do it again.

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 8:48:40 PM

Sorry Ben but that guy pissed me off, again sorry my bad :)

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___________
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 7:55:24 AM

god your a idiot.
i said those games have a better chance of getting GOTY NEVER did i say they should get GOTY.
if you bothered to read any of my other posts instead of just selecting the ones that suit yourself, you would know i have not agreed with GOTY awards for ages.
does MW really deserve GOTY over uncharted or bioshock?

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Darwin1967
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 4:00:40 PM
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Canceled this from my gameQ just in time!

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IonHawk
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 3:07:16 PM

Damn! I was too late - they shipped it yesterday. I'll give it a spin and see if it's as bad as everyone says.

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Sol
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 4:33:39 PM
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Man I was all hyped up at first when I was hearing about it but then I look at gameplay vids on the "tube" and man was I dissappointed. I actually thought this had a chance but man the entire game looks like they stopped halfway through it. I'm sure that someone will find this game fun, but that someone won't be me, 'cuz it's off the "list."

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 5:07:56 PM
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I'm not too worried about Fallout New Vegas because Bethesda is watching over Obsidian, BUT that also means they won't have any playtesting done so it'll be as buggy as the last.

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FlyingKickPunch
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 5:23:10 PM
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Peace Walker is only a week away! I figure I'd talk about something positive instead of this train wreck of a game. Got the Big Boss pack on pre-order with overnight shipping. I can practically taste the Naked Snake...err wait, disregard that :P

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:08:43 PM

ewww

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:49:02 PM

i wanted the Big Boss pack but decided i shouldn't because my 1000 is still running strong.

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carl0975
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 8:20:10 PM

I preordered the big boss psp as well, I can barely wait until the 8th.

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hadouken
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 5:57:01 PM
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Apparently Alpha Protocol didn't have the proper protcols.

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Highlander
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:31:25 PM

Well as all good software engineers know, you should never use the alpha version, and even the beta may have serious bugs...I'll wait for Gold Protocol, hopefully by then the bugs will have been worked out...

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natho86
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:43:27 PM
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"I just can’t figure out why someone somewhere didn’t stand up and say this would bomb…"

So true you would have thought someone, anyone would have said "Guys we really need to fix this, its just not working"

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LightShow
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 6:44:14 PM
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hate it when this happens. this game had me stoked. oh well...

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 7:56:04 PM
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The good news in all of this crapola is, that I should be able to find it in the $5 Frisbee bin with merely a couple month's ripped away from my 2010 calendar.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 8:48:22 PM
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i agree with _______ alan wake is a good game it deserves (sorry bad spelling) to be goty i been on the edge of my seat playing the game, and the last game that for me was god of war III witch by the way is the best game i finshed this year.

a quick idea for the next god of war game how about a 3rd person view for the like in the part were u beat up the last god with your bear hands. what do u think ? i think its a good idea.

'currently playing'
ps3- red dead redemption
360- Alan wake

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Qubex
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 9:28:18 PM
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Low low she goes... from other reports around the web I expected this to score low here too. Actually I thought it would have been even lower. The developers themselves admitted it was a bad mistake of a game.

It is another title worth a miss when there are so many really great game coming out in the next 12 months...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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BeezleDrop
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 9:52:43 PM
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Seriously, to the people that think Alan Wake is an actual GOTY contender what about the games that actually deserve the title. GOW3, ME2, RDR(it will be nominated whether you like it or not), Heavy Rain, etc. Not Alan Wake, NOT Conviction, that are nowhere close to even being worth a nomination. Having rented Alan Wake I am very pleased I didn't purchase the game. If anything, it deserves rental of the year, horrible animations, plastic graphics, constant technical issues, worth 1 play through. The best part about AW was the good story.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 11:50:20 PM

I thought everything looked plastic as well. The lighting was cool but the screen tearing distracts a great deal from the game.

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IonHawk
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 3:13:06 PM

I was pretty impressed with the story and atmosphere of Alan Wake. The graphics and animations weren't too impressive but IMHO, everything else made up for it. And the city of Bright Falls felt like a living,breathing city just like Liberty City. Plus being a huge fan of Max Payne I loved all the references to Max Payne here - they even got Sam Lake (who designed this game, and was the model for the first Max Payne game) to appear in the game on a fake TV show and the host asks him to "make that face again" - good times :)
Oh, and I forgot to mention the great soundtrack and of course Night springs - the Twilight zone "inspired" TV shows that plays on TVs scattered within the game.
Absolutely hated the constant product placement though.

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SmokeyPSD
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 10:07:52 PM
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I'm not even going to entertain the idea of getting Obsidian developed games anymore. I've never had an experience which worked with them. at all.

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SaintX
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 10:09:21 PM
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Sorry going off topic, wheres the review for Modnation Racers?

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 01, 2010 @ 11:51:49 PM

If this helps, 13 people on my list are playing it at the moment. Only 2 are playing RDR.

That's good enough for me. I would have bought it by now but i just ordered Mario Galaxy 2. :)

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SaintX
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:00:27 AM

I know MNR will be a great game, played the demo and loved it. Definitely gonna buy it. I just thought some of the reviews were a little low for MNR. Gamespot gave it a 8.0, but if you read or watch the video review by them, it feels more like a 9.0. So I'm interested to see whats PSX's rating for this game gonna be, as Ben and Arnold have always been very honest and fair in their reviews.

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spiderboi
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 1:35:06 AM

the store i buy games from still doesn't have region 1 MNR. hope it stocks pretty soon...

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FlyingKickPunch
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 5:39:54 PM

I thought all PS3 games were region-free?

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___________
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 3:59:45 AM
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oh come on the graphics are NO WHERE NEAR that bad!
you make it sound like there wanted weapons of fate territory, there no where near that bad.

anyway, the biggest fault with alpha protocol and this is really what made the game fell apart is the developers did not know when to stop adding things.
just like the developer said in that interview sega kept changing the requirements of the game, that gave them no time to polish what was already f*cked.
what happens when you add sh*t on top of sh*t on top of sh*t on top of sh*t?
you need to know when to say enough is enough, remove what does not work and refine and polish what does work.
along with the development teams producer again as one of the devs said in that article he thought he was god and was adding things that were crap and he would not listen to anyone.
i know how that feels my ex boss was like that, he could turn out a piece of sh*t and try to convince you its gold. as the simpsons said "homer dont try to sell me a out house and tell me its a taj mahal!"

the game really needs focus, it does not know what it wants to be. all good games need to know what there requirements are.
before you go into production you need to know what you want your game to achieve, you need to have a set of goals you want to reach.
like naughty dog said they wanted uncharted 2 to be a hollywood blockbuster summer movie and it was.
you cant make a game a jack of all trades you just cant because than it ends up being crap.
you need to make a game thats jack of few trades master of one.

just like cars you cant make a car to be a GT car, a luxury car, a cruiser, a nimble sports car and the words fastest car all rolled into one.
you have to choose one or the other, maybe a mix.
but you cant make say the worlds fastest car, but than make it also the worlds most luxurious because that adds weight and it would handle like a couch on wheels!

that is what went wrong with alpha protocol they tried to do everything, you just cant, you need to set one goal master that than set another.
not set a million goals because by the time your done setting them oops we have no time to master any of them.

if they sat down and said ok we want to make a stealth RPG and thats it, work off that and refine it than alpha protocol could of been in the running for GOTY.
i truly believe that because it combines 3 of the best things i love in games and we very rarely see.

1 consequences. many games say everything you do changes the story (cough heavy rain) but how many actually deliver?
2 stealth. again how many stealth games do we see?
i can count the amount of stealth games we have had this gen on one hand!
3 story and character development. very very few games actually have a deep interesting story, and very fewer games actually have character development.
what i mean by that is not only your character but your allies and enemies change there personality, their views change throughout the game depending on your choices.
very few games actually deliver on that.

alpha protocol does though, and for that i have to thank obsidian for delivering on what so many developers have promised but failed to deliver on.
alpha protocol may be a flawed game technically and o boy is it, but at least it does one thing very few games do. revolutionize the industry, give us something we have not seen yet and if you cant appreciate that than i feel sorry for you.'

a little more spit and polish, a little more control and focus and this could of really been a great game, but at least we finally have a game that delivers on that consequences promise.
up until now no game has done that so thank you obsidian for that.

it looks like we have a first, sega have FINALLY!!! released a decent (not good but decent) next gen game.............. ABOUT TIME IT ONLY TOOK THEM 4 FU*KING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 6:28:54 AM

emmm hello!!!!! Bayonetta was published by sega !!!!!!!!!!, I haven't checked Alpha Protocol, havent even heard about it before now but from Ben's review I won't be touching this with a 10 feet pole. I have other crap to buy for 60$

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___________
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 8:25:25 AM

how many times do i have to say i hated bayonetta?

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 12:20:26 PM

I am at a loss for words, for I actually agree with you in some cases.

This game is not as bad as this review states.

I can't believe that Ben didn't even talk about how awesome the weapon customization is in this game. It's one of the most in depth system in any game.

When I am done beating the game, I will be offering my user review on Alpha Protocol.

Last edited by maxpontiac on 6/2/2010 12:23:12 PM

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Milonakis
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 12:44:01 PM

About that car analogy. Have you ever driven a fully loaded Buick Park Avenue with the 3.8L supercharged engine? If not keep your jacking opinions to yourself.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 4:00:44 PM

Big surprise. If anybody went by this guy's reviews, people would be wasting their money on sh** constantly.

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___________
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 7:58:57 AM

well sorry ben if you cant appreciate a developer trying to do something different for a change instead of following the sheep and giving us the same crap.
sure the games stuffed in so many ways, but at least there trying to give us something different.
alpha protocol had allot of potential it just was screwed up by one egotistical (remind you of anyone?) prick and sega constantly changing the book on them.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 10:21:24 AM

There's nothing even remotely different about this game. Nothing. We've seen the decision-making before and we've seen how it will impact the direction of the game and how characters react to us.

They TRIED to take it to another level and that didn't really work and, oh yes, the foundation it's built upon SUCKS. You have to start realizing what makes for a good game, not just what you THINK makes for a good game.

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___________
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 8:20:36 AM

we have sort of seen it before but not to this extent.
GTAIV had these choices do i kill this guy or do i let him go but that really changed absolutely nothing.
same as heavy rain, in the store if you get caught but dont get killed than what changes?
nothing.
alpha protocol is the first game i have ever played that makes me think about things before i do them, or say them.

plus not to mention this is really the first decent stealth game we have gotten this gen, the only half decent one besides this was 3 years ago splinter cell double agent.
yes stealth games have been done better, but they were all released on the ps2.

im not saying its a fantastic game, that much is obvious.
im just saying its much better than what you make it out to sound.
its nice to see a developer try to do something new and not follow the flock of sheep, i think they should be thanked for that not condemned.
keep going the way your going and were going to end up with nothing but FPS because developers will be too scared to stray away from the norm.

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Underdog15
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 2:19:56 PM

Dude, do you even have a review up yet? I clicked your user name _______ or whatever, and it says there are no user reviews. Based on what you're saying, 5.8 or anything close to a 6 is fair. You said it's not a fantastic game and it's obvious. Anything around a 6 basically means, it's got a lot of flaws, some people will like it, and a lot won't. Anything 7.5 and higher is a good quality game, dude. You're acting like he gave it a 3.5 or something. I've seen the game, too. And I would probably give it around a 6 as well. It's kinda fun, but nothing too special, and I wouldn't feel like taking it the distance. It's very average. That is all.

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___________
Saturday, June 05, 2010 @ 8:39:31 AM

dont speak on a game you have not played.
i have not put up a user review on this because i have not finished it yet i dont believe on reviewing games i have not finished.
and no a 6 is not a good score, a 6 is what most sites gave rouge warrior or the avatar.
those were extremely bad games, alpha protocol is no where near as bad as those.
anything below a 7 is poor, anything below a 5 is unplayable sh*t.
this deserves at least a 6.5 maybe 7.

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 9:02:10 AM
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more than a million time, I'm Kindda thick :P

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Milonakis
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 12:37:32 PM
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Sega is just getting smashed in. The only good thing they have done recently is a rehash of a 2D platforming hedgehog.

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FlyingKickPunch
Wednesday, June 02, 2010 @ 5:38:08 PM

You're right. And that's just crazy, considering their huge catalog of past hits that they could easily update for some money to fund some new development. I'd like a new Sword of Vermilion... :)

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fluffer nutter
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 3:16:11 PM

Sword of Vermillion!

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PorkChopGamer
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 6:32:09 AM
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I love how reviewers complain about the response time for DSS, as if they've never had a REAL conversation with a human in their lives. I'm sure they don't take 15 seconds to respond to someone after each sentence. I'm also sure that if this exact system were implented in a game that had an R* on it, this so called 'annoyance' would be hailed as a 'realistic and immersive feature that keeps you on you toes during every sentence'. Oh well. Such is the gaming world.

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Underdog15
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 2:21:48 PM

I also don't need to read options and manually move a cursor up and down a menu to select the choice I want when I respond to someone, though. So... a little time is necessary.

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Underdog15
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 2:31:14 PM

Missed edit time...

I was referring to my real life responses to actual people. lol. not in game.

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xenris
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 9:45:06 AM
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I think this review is a little extreme. Yes it has bugs and the sneaking animation is laughable, but I rented this game and having high expectations I figured I was going to be let down. But I found myself enjoying this almost immediately.

The dialogue is fun and actually impacts your game and characters for the rest of the game. This they do way better than ME2. Sneaking is "broken" until you level it up, remember this is an RPG people. The combat in this game is like ME1 remember how your reticle could be on the enemy and you would still miss point blank? Yeah probably not because you over looked that games bugs and poor combat for some fantastic reason, Allegiance to Bioware perhaps?

Anyway I strongly recommend anyone who was interested in this game at least rented it.

This is the first review from this site I have really really disagreed on.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 10:24:37 AM

Sneaking is broken because of the craptastic AI and lack of authenticity (and options) we saw eight years ago in the first Splinter Cell.

Collision detection issues is always a flaw. I wouldn't ignore it in Mass Effect, either, and as I said in the review, it seems to hit PC-related software very hard.

At no point does this game feel like anything besides a mediocre version of far better games that focused on one particular element and excelled. Read reviews from GameSpot or IGN if you want more explanation.

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Underdog15
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 2:23:39 PM

Why are all you guys acting like a near 6 is such an awful review? It definitely doesn't deserve a near 7... so it's not that far off kilter.

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xenris
Thursday, June 03, 2010 @ 1:48:52 PM
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I agree with the PC related issues, and can see how the collision detection would make people angry. Remember the shots not connecting is the RPG element to the game and disappears as you get better guns and your level up.

I have read several reviews, I understand that you have an opinion and that is obviously fine, but I feel like that this review is discouraging a lot of people from playing and possibly enjoying this game.

I honestly haven't noticed the sneaking being broken because of the A.I. Stealth games tend to have crappy A.I. Period.

The A.I. in the Tenchu games, most splinter cell games(I havent played conviction), Assassins Creed, and my favourite the Metal Gear series are usually retarded. I feel like yeah the A.I. In AP can be really really really bad but only a little worse than the games mentioned above.

So many people are enjoying this game its not GOTY not even close but, I as well as a lot of other people am having fun with it. I still say its about a 7 and definitely worth a rent if you were interested in it at one point.

This is just my opinion I only say this because I usually agree with you Ben. This is however the first time I've ever posted =)

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maxpontiac
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 1:06:14 PM

Welcome here. This is a great site. The admins are excellent and the community here is awesome!!

Anyways, I agree with you. Alpha Protocal is not a GOTY caliber game, but it is far from being a bad game.

I am enjoying it quite abit actually!

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Underdog15
Friday, June 04, 2010 @ 2:28:59 PM
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I think it's a relatively fair review, actually. Although I would have liked to read more positives, you have to keep in mind that a 5.8 is actually very close to a 6. I think we all sort of jump up and down when we scan quickly over the scores, as I'm sure most of the time, we only pick up on the first number. So when reading, it can feel like you're reading about a 5 rated game. It isn't. It's a 6-ish. Which indicates it's an average game with some issues some people can overlook while others can't.

Dynasty Warrior games usually get a similar score, but they're still loved by lots of fans.

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