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Sony: No Update To Disable Light Bar On Dual Shock 4

The battery life of the Dual Shock 4 isn't especially impressive, as many new PS4 owners will tell you.

Perhaps one of the reasons it isn't great is because of the controller's light bar, which may require unnecessary battery power. We say "unnecessary" because not all games make use of the light bar.

As such, many gamers have been wondering if Sony will release an update that will disable the bar for titles that don't need it. Unfortunately, that won't be happening; a fan asked Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida on Twitter if such an update was coming, to which Yoshida simply replied: "No." It's probably a good idea to invest in a charging station, or at the very least, have two controllers so one is always charging while the other is being used. I did that with my PS3 controllers; worked out fine.

Do you have a problem with the lifespan of the new Dual Shock 4?

Tags: ps4 controller, dual shock 4, dual shock 4 update

1/16/2014 11:24:07 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (57 posts)

Norrin Radd
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 11:36:37 AM
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No problem here. I have two controllers and I have the PS4 set so they turn off after 10 minutes of non-use. I'm not having any issues. It's not that hard to plug one in to charge while playing with the other.

It's a great controller and a very nice upgrade/evolution from DS3. Definitely worth the minor inconveniences to me.

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Highlightreel
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 12:06:31 PM

No issues yet here either. BUT...I'm not really using it as much as there is a lack of games to keep me playing non-stop. With cell phone battery life sucking so hard, I'm used to plugging stuff in all the time so I don't think it'll be that big of deal for me.

I think part of the issue is that the PS3's controller life was so good that we're used to that too.

Stay Classy PSX...

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___________
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 4:04:03 AM

rather expensive problem to what should not be a problem in the first place though.
but hey, as the saying goes a fool and his money are easily parted.

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Caanimal
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 10:01:57 PM

Just get a standard USB 2.0/3.0 extension cable, they are dirt cheap and come in a variety of lengths, I spent like $10 for a 16 foot cord years ago...

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ProfPlayStation
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 12:12:01 PM
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Guess I better come up with a cover-up solution. If there's one thing that annoys me endlessly, it's unnecessary lights, and lights reflecting on the TV/bezel. My TV has one of those stupid illuminated logos in the middle of it, and covering that up with black was my first task when installing it. Guess this will be one of my first tasks with PS4, as well.

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wiiplay
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 8:39:07 PM

Yeah, as a guy with a slightly reflective television, trust me; the light bar is clear as day, especially during movies / nighttime gaming.

Honestly, I don't care about the battery life, as I have a very long wire capable of charging the controller while I play. So, no big deal for me there.
But it's the darn light itself. It literally reflects off of everything. The TV, the stand, the PS4 itself. (the shiny part)

Sony really needs to allow us to disable this useless feature. Heck, just let us disable it in games and apps that don't utilize it, like Assassin's Creed IV, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Battlefield 4, and even Netflix.
Seriously, I don't want to turn on Netflix on my PS4 at night, as the reflections are so obvious, it becomes an actual distraction.

Oh, and for the games that do utilize it? I own Killzone: Shadow Fall, and played hours in the campaign (which is more than most people) and guess what? The light is barely noticeable. You literally never notice the colour change, as most people aren't looking down at the controller for a damn light indicator.
In fact, if not for Google telling me that this specific game featured light bar indicators for your health, I would never have known that the light did anything at all.
Plus, the light is tilted downwards ever so slightly, so in natural play, the light is practically invisible to you. However, it still reflects off of everything in your room, and then some.


Sony really, really, REALLY needs to fix this. While I don't see how a light could cause rapid battery drainage, as the light seems to be a low-cost low-consumption LED, I really just want for Sony to let us disable the light for games / apps that do not use or require it. It's ruining my overall entertainment experience, and that's never a good thing.

Also, my other main gripe with the PS4? That damn PS4 Camera! Seriously, why can't you disable the microphone on that thing? I mean, really?

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frostface
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 12:12:23 PM
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No problems here. I've two controllers and I've a very long micro USB cable (the same one most phones use ), so I can either switch out between the two controllers or just plug in the cable and keep on gaming.

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tes37
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 12:37:42 PM

I was a little disappointed with the change in the controller from mini to micro usb. Instead of buying an extended charging cable this time, I bought an extended usb cable that I can use on anything.

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Akuma07
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 11:43:16 PM

You can't expect them to stick to a dead format. Ever since Micro USB was adopted, every device uses it. It saves space, and space saved means cheaper and more efficient to manufacture.

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richfiles
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 2:08:36 PM

@Akuma07

Mini USB is far superior to that crap micro USB in one thing...

DURABILITY!!!

I am tired of flimsy micro USB devices having their ports break from the tiniest drops, or even from just normal wear and tear. EVERYONE I know has had at least one device that fails to charge or connect at some point in time. I honestly am going to look on Digi-Key to see if there is a Mini USB socket that has the same solder footprint as the Micro USB socket, and the SECOND I get my first intermittent charging... I'm gonna solder me in a REAL USB socket! a Mini USB socket!

It's like the industry decided to save 1 or 2 mm, just to incorporate some PLANNED PRODUCT OBSOLESCENCE! i'm so glad i'm a technician, and can fix these things... Think about how much reusable electronics are WASTED every year because they chose a flimsy plug!

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Caanimal
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 9:58:22 PM

Just buy a standard USB 2.0/3.0 cable, I bought one several years ago and just carried it over from my PS3 days to now w/ my PS4.

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tes37
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 12:31:23 PM
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I have two controllers, so battery life isn't really an issue for me.

I managed to tear the rubber coating on one of my controllers' left analog stick and I don't have any idea how I caused it to happen. I'm pretty sure it was due to my negligence though.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 12:47:28 PM
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I only have 1 and shouldn't have to buy another to be comfortable, I DO have a problem with the short life. Might get that third party battery. I recently bought a double-thick battery for my phone that came with a special backing, I love it to death. Days of power.

There should be a way to turn off the lightbar because it's a pointless addition but I suspect the touchpad and other motors take up most of the juice.

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 3:48:46 PM

Buy a second controller.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:22:39 PM

No.

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Tim Speed24
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 6:53:41 PM

Do it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 7:09:05 PM

No.

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 7:13:54 PM

Join the dark side.

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Banky A
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 9:16:27 PM

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT

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Banky A
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 2:12:52 AM

That was in the school kids peer pressure crowd voice

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daus26
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 2:58:48 PM
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I don't really worry about battery power. I just hope it's not overly bright when playing in the dark.

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Ignitus
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 3:46:21 PM
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When compared to the 360 controller, the DS3 had a terrible baterry life but I could live with it.

But with the DS4 I do have a problema, It's constantly asking for a recharge to the point it is annoying. And the "solution" of buying two controllers for every player it is ridiculous. I love its ergonomics though.

Speaking of updates, I hope in the next update they include the missing multimedia features (CD, mp3, DLNA)that are restraining the ps4 from being the one full entertainment box it can be.



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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 3:47:59 PM

The dualshock 3 has amazing battery life.

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Ignitus
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 3:53:01 PM

Killa, compared to the DS4, the DS3 has amazing baterry life. Compared to the 360 controller, not so much.

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Akuma07
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 11:44:54 PM

Define 'constantly'.

The battery lasts 6-8 hours on a full charge. The term constantly would mean that it is at low battery quite often, so either you aren't charging it fully, or you are playing 6-8 hours worth of gaming every day, and if you are doing that then I suggest you find something productive to do with your life.

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Caanimal
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 10:00:34 PM

I would suggest getting a standard USB 2.0/3.0 extension cable, they are pretty cheap and easy to find, that is unless you HAVE to have the cordless feature...

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 3:47:32 PM
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I have two controllers as well. It gets annoying if you play coop. Like Knack. I had to stop a few times to charge the dualshock 4.

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slugga_status
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 3:52:19 PM
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I have two controllers as well..glad i do, one always is charging

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Danny007
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 4:28:09 PM
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At least we can charge while the system is off now...

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Simcoe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 6:04:00 PM

Bingo!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 7:09:38 PM

Even if it's off off? I don't do that standby stuff, don't trust it.

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Simcoe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 10:59:00 PM

"don't trust it"??!

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Akuma07
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 11:47:14 PM

I was disappointed to find out this isn't true.

Standby isn't the same as being 'off'. Standby is a power saving mode, which still keeps part of the system active, honestly, I would rather save the electricity and turn it off completely.

Standby mode offers no benefit worth the risk.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 11:27:44 AM

Wait what's the risk of it being in standby? It's standby, essentially sleeping.

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Knightzane
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:00:57 PM
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2 controllers, no problems.

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Brighat
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:20:38 PM
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I'll probably buy a second controller eventually but for now I just keep it charged when I'm not playing an actual game. Hey, at least we don't have to pay for batteries.

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Lone Wanderer
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:32:26 PM
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I think most of you are missing the point. You shouldn't have to have 2 controllers to compensate for the lack of battery life.Their 60$ each.You dont get 2 cell phones do you? Just another way of milking another 60$ out of us.

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Maccelerate
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 10:00:26 PM

Completely agree. Even if the system came with two controllers, that's a poor excuse. What if the PS4 had an overheating problem that shut it down and Sony said, "Just buy two so you can keep gaming when it's too hot?" You'd be livid.

I've only held a couple of Xbox controllers, and each one had a *huge* battery box and felt like it weighed as much as two DS3s. Also, anything with an alkaline vs. a rechargeable is going to last longer.

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Lone Wanderer
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:37:21 PM
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Also the battery life on the DS4 is SIGNIFICANTLY shorter than the DS3. I can use my DS3 for three 4-7 hr a day game sessions before it gives me "the battery is low notification." Where as with the DS4 its one, I repeat one 6hr game session.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 7:10:33 PM

That's probably the high end, feels like it's dead in 3 or 4 hours.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 10:48:57 PM

The high end is actually 12.5 hours play time roughly. The DS4 can last up to 24 hours without using it but being left on.

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shaydey77
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:53:36 PM
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Battery life in the new controllers is crap pure and simple.

Definitely should be options to select what features you want to use. Like the light doesnt add anything to the gameplay as far as I can see.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 5:54:48 PM
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The DS4 has a great battery that runs a ton of stuff. Runs like 6 led's, the rumble pack, buttons, and the touch screen. Of those the rumble pack and touch screen will draw more power. Regardless of that, the DS4 is capable of lasting 9 hours of play time from fully charged. If you're having problems with it lasting that long it's probably not fully charged, and if 9 hours isn't enough, well that's another issue. I have been playing about 2 hours a night recently and here's the great thing, the PS4 will charge the DS4 in standby, so battery life shouldn't EVER be an issue.

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Simcoe
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 6:10:48 PM

I have never found that I ran out of battery life on the DS4 while playing a single straight session. The fact that it can charge while in standby is HUGE! With my PS3 I did/do have two DS3 controllers so I'd always have a charged backup one in case the battery did run low. I don't need a second DS4 (got one though...perhaps I'll sell it). I can even charge my DS3 on the PS4, so now I really only need one DS3!

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richfiles
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 2:18:38 PM

Not sure where you heard a touch pad would use a lot of power??? Touch pads are capacitive, and there is not very much power running through such a device. The vibration motors will be the largest draw of current, followed by the LEDs and the RF device to communicate with the PS4. Nearly all other devices will likely draw very minimal amounts of current.

You may be mistaken in believing the touch pad draws a lot of power due to the fact that touch SCREENS (which you called it, erroneously) do draw a lot of power, but its the screen, and not the touch that draws that power. The LED backlight draws the most power, and a touch PAD has no backlight.

Hope that clears that minor error up for you!

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firesoul453
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 9:15:50 PM
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I haven't had a problem with battery life, but when I do I have a 15ft cable to keep it alive.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 10:45:29 PM

"Got 99 problems but a" DS4' battery life ain't one!

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Akuma07
Thursday, January 16, 2014 @ 11:51:41 PM
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I couldn't believe peoples reactions to this news. I mean really? Are gamers that petty now days? "Oh we can't turn off that blue light, waaaaa" Sorry guys, but I want the Sony dev team to work on REAL issues and REAL upgrades, not pointless shit just because you are over-sensitive about lights.

That dude in the comments above was complaining because he hates unnecessary lights, that's fair enough, but at the end of the day, it is a personal preference thing, and I don't want them to waste time on issues just because people are picky.

Maybe in a few years when they have added a tonne of cool stuff to the console and ironed out all the bugs, then add stupid minuscule features.

I game about 2-3 meters away from my TV, I have never had a problem with reflection, and I don't have a problem with the LED lighting up a dark room, honestly it adds nice ambiance. Might be great in horror titles.

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ProfPlayStation
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 11:54:21 AM

You nailed it: It's a highly divisive personal preference. Which is why it should have a setting in the Preferences menu.

You think it adds ambiance, the rest of us hate it. There is a really simple fix: You add a bit that is flipped from 1 to 0. We have a Notifications setting for the same reason. A lot of people don't like being constantly bothered with who is going on and offline. If you don't define something which effects every day, normal use as a "real" issue, then what is a "real" issue? Glossier menus on the PS Store??

It is the small things which make a huge impact. I quit Netflix over their update that cuts away from shows/movies when the credits start. That's not an issue for a lot of people, but it's a HUGE issue to me. Netflix's response (in so many words): "Tough luck, sucker. Deal with it." Though to be more precise, they actually did tell me, "A lot of other people appreciate this feature!" Well, good for other people. Give me a damn checkbox to disable this new feature that I never asked for!

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___________
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 4:09:15 AM
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sigh.
really cant understand their obsession with this, i mean allot of games dont even use it!
and those that do, ooooooo wow a light goes from green to red when im almost dead thats totally worth having to charge my controller FOUR times as often!
NOT!

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Gabriel013
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 7:26:40 AM
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Whether you use your controller for 12 hour game sessions or half hour game sessions isn't even relevant to this conversation.

Having a battery which lasts a quarter to a third as long as the outdated controller is.
I don't care what features it has or if Sony think they all need to be active all the time, even when not needed. They should have included a battery sufficient to compensate and offer a duration comparable to the previous model.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 11:19:16 AM

There's nothing small enough out there. I mean I'm sure if you want to spend more money there is but the fact of the matter it is indeed how you use the controller that makes its battery drain. If the controller is rumbling it's draining more power, if your using the touch screen it's draining power. The LED lights are not drawing a lot of power on their own it's these things combined. That's one reason LED lights are popular in many industries because of their lower power draw. To compare a DS4 with the LED on and another off (hypothetically) in a neutral position would be pretty close in the batteries voltage at that point.

The DS4 has so many functions what you people are asking for is the world, but you want ur cake and to eat it too. Any changes in battery would be an increase cost to the DS4 and you wouldn't gain much anyways.

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JackC8
Friday, January 17, 2014 @ 8:14:27 AM
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I don't understand why they insist it has to be on all the time even when it's serving no purpose whatsoever. Seems like a "We added this feature and now you're going to use it and you're going to like it!" type of mentality.

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Kryten1029a
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 6:54:51 PM

It was supposed to interact with the Playstation camera but with that peripheral being made optional, the light doesn't need to be there. Gamers who use the DS4 on PC can even use third-party apps to disable the feature so it's possible. If there's an actual, valid reason for it to be on then they should come out and say it.

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ricksterj
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 12:05:22 PM
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This is SONY. Why is this a surprise?

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richfiles
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 2:24:41 PM
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Another issue to consider... Lithium Ion batteries have a FINITE lifespan. They WILL stop holding a charge after they have gone through a certain number of charge/discharge cycles.

Forcing the light to stay on all the time drains the battery faster, requiring more cycles, thus reducing the LONGTERM life of the battery! A battery that might last you 4 years might last only 3 now, forcing you to buy an extra controller or four over the lifespan of the console (depending on how many you use and how frequently you use them all).

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Caanimal
Sunday, January 19, 2014 @ 9:54:40 PM
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if you don't HAVE TO HAVE the cordless feature you can always get an USB extension cable, they are pretty cheap and get some that are pretty long, I believe I spent about $10 for a 16 foot cord a few years back when I got tired of the ~4 hour life span on the DS3...

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