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Developer: The Order Doesn't Max Out PS4, But It's "Close"

How pretty is The Order: 1886? And how much of the PlayStation 4's power does it really use?

Well, in the opinion of one developer, Ready at Dawn's promising new IP actually uses most everything the PS4 has to offer. Gamepur asked Bloober Team Marketing Manager Aron Cender about The Order, and Cender has some nice things to say about it.

Yes, we're aware he's not with Ready at Dawn, but Bloober Team is set to deliver the PS4 exclusive, Basement Crawl, so they've probably worked closely with Sony to better understand the new console. When asked if The Order: 1886 maxes out the PS4, Cender responded:

"I donít think it's maxing it out, but I believe it should be pretty close to it. I hope we are gonna see more games of that visual quality in the future, since that was the reason next-gen was introduced."

Cender praised the game's amazing environmental details as well, which are indeed a highlight. Of course, we have no idea if his analysis is accurate or not; we'd probably have to ask Ready at Dawn to weigh in. Then again, don't forget that these new consoles are more developer-friendly right off the bat, so designers can tap into more of each system's power immediately.

Do you think The Order uses almost all of the PS4's power?

Related Game(s): The Order: 1886

Tags: the order 1886, the order ps4, ready at dawn

2/28/2014 11:10:21 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (30 posts)

Knightzane
Friday, February 28, 2014 @ 11:22:30 PM
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I'd absolutely love to say yes, but I don't think so. Saying it gives them more press. and makes the game sound better or whatever

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Akuma07
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 7:21:56 PM

Not really. This isn't really a good thing. Think about it, if this WAS true, and it isn't, then it would mean that a 4 month old console is already being maxed out.

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Xombito
Friday, February 28, 2014 @ 11:33:54 PM
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Basement Crawl isn't pulling in good scores. If fact, it may be the worst rated PS4 game right now. Why are they asking HIM about someone else's game?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 10:01:41 AM

yeah wth

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Akuma07
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 7:33:18 PM

Yeah exactly.

Since when did the industry start taking the word of developers who are not associated with a project at all.

Ru, the founder of RAD, has come out today firmly denying this guys claims, stating that they are "only getting started" with the PS4's power.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 12:03:01 AM
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Even if it does, there's always optimisation. And then the supposed GPU compute, which they say is going to take a couple of years before developers are able to make full use of it (I don't know what GPU compute is, so don't ask me).

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ethird1
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 1:08:10 AM
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I hate that era of history. This game does not appeal to me. Bring on Dragon Quest. 2d.

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SaiyanSempai
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 1:34:08 AM
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How long had developers been saying that they were maxing out PS3 hardware before The Last Of Us came out?

Inefficient coding can easily max out system hardware. You don't have to play Microsoft's Flight Simulator to know that.

Not saying that The Order:1886 is coded inefficiently. Just saying there is always room for optimization.

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daus26
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 2:27:10 AM

Actually, not a lot of developers (if any) claim maxing the PS3. Even ND said, after Uncharted 2, that there's little left in the PS3 tank. It wasn't till GT6, where Kaz says that PD has overkilled the PS3, saying that while GT5 maxed out the console, GT6 further pushed by more efficient coding.

But yeah, there may be some third party developers that mentioned the ps3/360 generation being maxed out in general, but not necessarily the PS3 specifically. Only first party developers trurly know and claim that.

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Akuma07
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 7:26:54 PM

Crytek was making those claims from the moment they touched the console.

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daus26
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 2:21:45 AM
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Cerny said something about 2 years down the line, there will be new ways of optimizing the console, or something like that. He said first few years is straight forward developing.

Also, in another article, Sony said they may be releasing new SDKs to developers down the line once the PS4 OS is more optimized so that more GBs of RAM can be used for gaming. Atm, I believe it's about 3.5gb just for the OS alone.

Naughty Dog and PD are the only developers I know that "overkilled" the PS3, so I can only trust their words right now.

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Beamboom
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 2:46:46 AM
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Nonsense.
Unless he is talking about just pure system load. The cpus might run high (that's really not that hard) and the memory might be filled to the brim, but what's done between each cycle or how the memory allocation is handled is an entirely different question.


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___________
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 2:55:27 AM
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100% now which will turn into 95% in a few months time, which will turn into 90% after a few more months, which will turn into 85% a few months after that, ect, ect.
so stupid this reference though, maxing a system out is not exactly difficult.
the SDK and tools will change and improve, will develop better engines, developers will get better understandings, they will start using GPU compute, $ony will shrink down the reserved resources for the system.
exactly why its such a stupid remark it really does not mean anything.

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xnonsuchx
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 8:42:54 AM
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When people say stuff like that, it's like saying they won't be able to do much better for the next game they do, which seems like kind of a letdown. As others have said, "maxing out" is a relative term, anyway, as it's a combination of hardware and software, so saying it's (near) maxed out is also making the rather self-aggrandizing claim that you can't possibly make your code more efficient (VERY rarely true). I also think these claims were more ridiculous on the PS3 due to the Cell BE and nobody being totally sure what it could do compared to fairly standard PC hardware, which is more a known quantity.

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Akuma07
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 7:25:53 PM

This guy is not associated with RAD.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 10:02:09 AM
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Let's hope it's not true this early on, but without the complex architecture of the past things can get maxed quick.

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Akuma07
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 7:37:06 PM

Well the founder of Ready at Dawn has firmly denied it. Stating that they aren't even close to maxing it out.

'Maxed out' is a relative term anyway. In terms of shear hardware power, it is very easy to max it out, just stuff a game with GPU and CPU intensive processes and bang, maxed out system. The thing that is so great about consoles is that it pushes developers to be more efficient, getting the same graphical/processing affect while using less resources. The consoles will only ever be truly maxed out when a game's code cannot possibly be more efficient and the console is using all available system resources. And that won't happen any time soon, PC developers are still learning how to be more efficient after decades.

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Beamboom
Sunday, March 02, 2014 @ 5:32:22 AM

That was a good quote Akuma, and so true.

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PC_Max
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 10:22:00 AM
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Well, its possible, but like Naughty Dog, first time through they learn better from developing their first game from it and know how to more efficient with the resources next time.

From what I see its looks fantastic, BUT my concern with the level of detail the game is trying to reach, its their already, the framerate may not be great when all hell breaks loose. I don't know this and no one else really does except the dev. We shall see, but lookst great so far.

I am sure many are waiting for Naughty Dog to come out and say "Here's out game and we maxed out the PS4". People will believe them when we hear it. Mind you, like Uncharted, they may come out with a fantastic game and say.. "Heres out game, you love it? We didn't even MAX out the PS4 yet. Wait til next time". :)

We shall see and really I think even though many have high expectations for good or bad, setting outselves up for disappointed or bliss, I am sure the games if not at first the best, will be at the best eventually.

Keep playing!

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BikerSaint
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 1:55:44 PM
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I think the 2 Twinkies I ate yesterday maxed out my system.....either that or it was really close.

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Tim Speed24
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 3:16:24 PM

Ha!

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JROD0823
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 4:27:00 PM

You're back! :)

How have you been?

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BikerSaint
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 5:21:41 PM
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JROD0823,
Thanks!

2013 was the year that because I was still out of work, I became totally financially ruined with zero money to my name, & with no prospects of work due to medical problems(& no insurance coverage either).

For 2014, it's gotten even worse financially(living on the government's meager handout of $80 a month now), but at least now I've gotten the state to give me Medicaid too, so I'm finally starting to receive some medical care & prescriptions this week for my ailments.

I'm still kicking, although I can no longer afford buying any more video games & had to sell off 1/4 of my retro gaming collections & my Harley-Davidson for mere pennies just to survive this long. :-((((

Other than that, I'm just dandy,LOL.

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SaiyanSempai
Sunday, March 02, 2014 @ 12:24:17 AM

Well, for what little it's worth, I'm glad to see you back!

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BikerSaint
Sunday, March 02, 2014 @ 5:31:32 PM

SaiyanSempai,
Thanks guy, I really appreciate that!

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Akuma07
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 7:25:25 PM
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Well what I am wondering is why the heck are we listening to a developer who is not associated with RAD at all.

I mean, this guy isn't even from a big AAA studio either.

Besides, Ru from RAD has firmly denied these claims, he has said that they "are only just getting started" with the PS4.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Saturday, March 01, 2014 @ 10:07:45 PM
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yeah i don't think we've seen the end of the ps4's power and i trust they know what they are doing to make the game great.

happy gaming =)

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MasterGT
Sunday, March 02, 2014 @ 12:53:52 AM
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All reports that I have heard say the same thing - the new consoles are both easy to max out. Nothing new here.

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Indestructible
Sunday, March 02, 2014 @ 5:45:02 AM

The Order sure looks gorgeous, but its only the second AAA exclusive to PS4, and RAD's even SSM's first. It may be close to maxing out the system technically, but nowhere near visually or gameplay wise. Consoles always benefit from fixed specs as game engines, rendering techniques can become better optimized as time passes by.

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Akuma07
Sunday, March 02, 2014 @ 8:12:28 PM

Then the people telling you those 'reports' are either not in the gaming industry, or don't know anything about computer processing.

Read my comment to Beamboom to truly understand what the term 'maxed out' means, and how we are not even anywhere near close to that.

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