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Naughty Dog Talks TLoU: Remastered And Disc Space Issue

When the PlayStation 4 version of The Last Of Us arrives next month, it will feature upgraded visuals.

That much, you know. But perhaps you weren't aware of how much work was required to make this happen. During a recent Edge interview with Naughty Dog creative director Neil Druckmann (as cited by CVG), we learn that the challenge had nothing to do with the hardware.

Rather, the stumbling block the team faced was the amount of space available on the Blu-Ray disc:

"Our cinematics are now running at 1080p and 60fps, and that involved rendering them all from scratch. It's interesting that now [instead of a technical bottleneck], the bottleneck is 'Can we fit all this on the disc?'"

All the graphical detail should be enhanced; enemies that might've looked a tad blurry up close will be refined, and we'll have cinema-quality characters for the cut-scenes. When it was first announced, Naughty Dog co-president Evan Wells said the "graphic fidelity has been turned up to eleven," which will result in 1080p, better draw distances, lighting and shadows.

As if TLoU wasn't pretty enough already.

Related Game(s): The Last Of Us: Remastered

Tags: the last of us remastered, the last of us ps4, naughty dog

5/8/2014 9:17:05 PM Ben Dutka

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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 10:05:51 PM
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Will the game also run at 60fps? not that it matters but I don't recall reading the fps anywhere. Also, if they were struggling to find space on the disc, why not have real time rendering of the cut-scenes? or whatever they call it.

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Temjin001
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 10:15:34 PM

yah, pretty sure Dualshockers ran a story earlier today confirming the 60fps thing.
They also said the game is using an overhauled lighting model.

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Soultaker
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 10:33:47 PM
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If the issue is disc space then just put more layers on the disc. The Blu-ray can hold up to 100GB or more without a firmware update as far as i know or was it that with a firmware update it can hold more...i don't remember now.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 11:23:26 PM

That's what I'm sayin.

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spoonTRex
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 10:02:58 AM

That was all pre-Blu-ray, anti-HD-DVD hype. HD-DVD was claiming they could release a 45GB triple-layer disc, so Blu-ray said they had a 100GB quad-layer disc. (Though Wikipedia is now telling me the triple layer is 100GB, which in my head, at 25GB a layer, doesn't make sense.)

Outside of a few demonstrations, triple layer and quad layer discs haven't seen any manufacturing. I'm not sure what the hold up there is. As far as I know, video wise, it's due to fear that older blu-ray players won't support more than two layers, but I recall DVD having the same issue with dual-layer discs, and eventually it had to just say "screw it".

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kraygen
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 12:31:48 PM

blu ray tech originally only did 25GB per layer, but it does 50GB per layer now, so a dual layer disc can now handle 100GB.

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CygnusTC
Sunday, May 11, 2014 @ 11:03:22 PM

The problem with the 100gb blurry is it will require a new laser that is NOT in the PS4. I think we'll see more multi discs Playstation games this generation and HUGE download files

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Wrote
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 10:52:08 PM
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Wow that's amazing. Wasn't the PS3 version 'only' 25gb or there about? I remember it being smaller then Uncharted 3 because it wasn't in 3D. This game will look super amazing is what that means.

Already played but don't own it, so I'll get it when it his 40 one month after release.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 11:26:39 PM
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1080p mushroom heads ahhh!

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Underdog15
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 1:09:54 AM

Lately I've been more enjoying 1080p mushroom rock roads!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 11:16:10 AM

I want to get back to doing that but I've been turned off onto a crazy tangent of other games and reviews to do.

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Japanese_Gamer
Thursday, May 08, 2014 @ 11:58:58 PM
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Aren't there 100Gb bluray discs?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 11:17:20 AM

only in legend.

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kraygen
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 12:46:56 AM
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People have been mentioning the 100GB of space on Blu ray discs and you are correct. I hear from movie/tv release companies and from game companies all the time, there's not enough disc space.

I would love to know where these complaints are coming from because we're not using dvd's any more people. Blu ray technology can now put 50GB on 1 layer and all blu ray players are supposed to be able to handle 2 layers without an update, meaning a minimum of 100GB.

However the last I read was that ps3's are already supposed to be able to handle well over 2 layers and I would hope ps4's can do the same, so either way disc space should not be a concern for a blu ray game.

This complaint has been driving me insane since the release of blu ray, it's not accurate, so stop blaming the disc people.

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Crabba
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 8:59:24 PM

Where are you getting this from?? 50gb per layer on a blu-ray disc makes no sense, since that would need to use a completely different technology capable of higher data/density.

There is apparently however a 100GB triple-layer blu-ray disc out already called BD XL, take a look at wikipedia for a little more info on this. There's also a 4-layer 128GB disc, but none seem to be compatible with current blu-ray players so right now they're fairly useless for games/movies...


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kraygen
Saturday, May 10, 2014 @ 1:29:58 AM

Don't always be so trusting of wikipedia. I read this information several months ago on the Blu ray disc association web site. An article written by the association discussing the breakthroughs and capabilities of current blu ray technology.

If what you just described is what wikipedia says, then it is old information. When blu ray was first released the technology could only handle 25GB per layer. Later they improved it to hold 32GB per layer. At that point a triple layer disc was often referred to as 100GB disc because it was pretty close. So yes add a 4th layer and it was 128GB.

The thing is they have continually tried to improve the technology and the last update that I saw was what I have just described to you. Even from the beginning though all blu ray players were supposed to be able to handle 2 layers, meaning with current disc technology they could put out a 2 layer 100GB disc and any blu ray player should be able to read it.

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Lunar_Miyuki
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 1:23:13 AM
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the problem is there using higher quality models and textures for there scenes than there using for the game which results in taking up way to much space on the disk

im not basing my theory off nothing im basing it off a certain game called Ninja Gaiden 3 razors edge that game has great graphics and is only 3.4 gigs

now before you say that contradicts what im saying they use there in game models for the scenes instead of using higher quality models and graphics

and honestly at this point in game development unless your making old school 2d or 2.5d sprites you should be using your in game models

endings are fine to use higher quality because the player earned the right to watch the ending

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SASSYGIRL82
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 2:10:47 AM
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Ya if its really that big can u imagine buying it on the PS store for d/l haha n u can play next week

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SASSYGIRL82
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 2:11:43 AM
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Hell took 6 he's for bf4 on ps4 at 39gb

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Big_Boss90
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 2:34:44 AM
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I did not buy this game last gen so happy i waited, i can now enjoy it at1080p 60fps =)

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___________
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 4:57:21 AM
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another thing really disappointing and surprising about the ps4.
$ony has always introduced a new storage medium with their new console.
ps1 brought CD.
ps2 brought DVD.
ps3 brought bluray.
ps4 brings........ same!
strange since there has been larger BD disc technology on the market for years, i remember reading a article a while ago saying $ony, panasonic and a few other manufactures had partnered and had successfully created BD discs capable of holding 500GBs!
and with 4K knocking on the door you would think the ps4 would of been a pioneer for those, like ps3 was for BD and full HD.

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BikerSaint
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 11:22:11 AM

I read that article too(or another one to that same effect).

But I've also read another article last year that Sony has ended it's partner with Panasonic too.

So it could be that nowhere is where it stands now???

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 11:18:04 AM
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I hope fans that already have the game turn out in drove to buy it just so Naughty Dog can have enough money to keep doing stuff.

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ulsterscot
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 8:20:00 PM
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I don't know about anyone else - but my PS4 HD is filling up fast and I'm pretty sure TLOU PS4 version is going to be big - they really need to come up with a way to allow you to transfer your installs when you upgrade to a bigger HD - instead of having to download all the stuff you want to play over again. I don't know if there is any software that recognizes the PS4 OS and will let you create a disc image?

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flamefury42
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 9:16:04 PM
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Does anyone know if they are allowing upgrades from ps3 to ps4 for a lower price, if you already own the game? I thought they were talks of that being an option..?

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PlatformGamerNZ
Friday, May 09, 2014 @ 9:39:13 PM
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i'm starting to wonder comin from ND that disc space is now an issue i wonder if we are going to see more than one disc or something else to solve this problem.

happy gaming =)

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