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Damnit, I Won't Be Tricked Into Buying Another Xbox

It has happened each of the last two generations.

I end up buying the new Xbox console within the first year of its release. I play it for a while; in fact, at one point during the last era, I had almost twice as many 360 games as PS3 games.

But then, something happens: Nothing else comes out on that system that I really want to play. Just about everything it has is multiplatform and really, how many times can I play a new Halo or Gears? Sure, Halo was a novelty for the original Xbox and I loved the kick-ass Deathrow, among other great exclusives. For the 360, I had a blast with games like Lost Odyssey and Alan Wake. But again, over the last years for each system, I basically never played it. The PS2 and PS3 got 98 percent of play time.

So, I won't be tricked again. I'm tempted to get the Xbox One because I really want to play Sunset Overdrive, and I'd also like to have Fable Legends. There are actually several exclusives on the horizon I'd want. But no, I won't fall for it again; I absolutely refuse. What assurance do I have that the same thing wouldn't happen again? There are no guarantees in life but when looking down the road, I'm counting on Sony's first-party teams to deliver the next-gen goods. Microsoft, not so much.

Fool me once, twice...thrice? Never!

Tags: xbox one, sunset overdrive, next gen consoles, console war

6/23/2014 10:16:27 PM Ben Dutka

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godsman
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:38:37 PM
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Ben, you work in the gaming industry. Wouldn't it make more sense for you to own all three consoles in every generations?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:56:53 PM

Are you suggesting someone that works in the movie industry must watch all movies?

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godsman
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:24:32 PM

No, I'm suggesting that whoever works in the movie industry should own the medium to watch any movie, such as a TV, a blu-ray player, netflix account... etc.

Ben doesn't need to play ALL games, but at least have the access to play all games if needed.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:56:09 PM

Uh...last I checked, we don't cover Xbox at PSXE. So how is it a requirement?

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:59:11 PM

You're right you don't cover Xbox, so why even bring it up. However, from a personal gamer stand point if you want to play all the games you can and enjoy them as a gamer I don't see the problem with your buying a One to play Sunset Overdrive and Fable Legends. If you don't prefer the console then don't buy it, it's not like you will be missing out on anything spectacular.

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Cesar_ser_4
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:03:43 AM

Limited Vertigo,

Nope cause Ben doesn't make videogames. However, it would make more sense that when reviewing a multi-plat title he plays it on both to make the comparison. After all, people who review blu-ray movies tend to watch it on different platforms (Theaters, Netflix, DVD, iTunes, etc.) Just to see if the quality is decent.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:04:33 AM

godsman,

Looking at it again my reply to you was rather weak. You're making sense. Thought Ben has a point, this is a Sony related site so it's not like he would lose any of his edge if he didn't pick up an X1, at least not with me.

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godsman
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:48:26 AM

LimitedVertigo,

You and many other members of PSX bring up really good points in many discussions. Sometimes i don't respond and just read the articles and each members comments.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:30:22 AM

I'd just like to say that if gamers expect critics to play multiple versions of every multiplatform game that comes out, they need to locate reality. Fast.

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Cesar_ser_4
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 2:07:00 AM

I agree with you Ben, all game critics think the world revolves around them. <sarcasm over.

Nor should they Ben. The only reason we said that is because it would make sense if they bought more than one console for comparison. Besides, it doesn't hurt to know that at least the graphics score came from comparing both versions. Kind of like a quality control check.

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GMRX
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 3:59:06 AM

It might help and he's more than welcome to for his own clarity of mind, but it's certainly not a necessity. This is a Playstation site, comparing game with the Xbox is unnecessary unless it really needs to be done. We don't come here to look for Xbox news, we could find that at several other places.

The only time it's required is IF he's bringing up news regarding the Xbox and doesn't want to sound like he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

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Akuma_
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:44:59 PM

This article showed up on N4G :)

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matt99
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:38:48 PM
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I feel exactly the same way...but hopefully my brother gets fooled into it

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Ather
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:48:09 PM
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Same here. Although I bought the PS3 first, I bought a lot more XBOX 360 games because they were cheaper (if only slightly) new on Amazon. Or cheaper yet on eBay used. But then I noticed so many more XBOX360 games. So I would buy cross platform games for PS3 when they first came out at equal prices. As time went on, I got Plus, and now tend to play PS 3 more because of the free games. Gold's games have mostly been YAWN to me. Maybe a few if I had Gold. I recently realized I really prefer the PSes to XBOXes, and started regretting buying the 360,a s it's used less and less. I want a PS4. I'll only win an XBOX One. Maybe I'll feel better about 360 as I tackle my backlog. But otherwise, I'm fully in Sony's camp.

I am quite happy with WiiU, but Nintendo is a horse of a different color, and I'm not sure if I'll buy another console. At least not until a year later when the price drops.

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Corvo
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:50:05 PM
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I'd rather the world become infected with the T-virus before I ever bought another Microsoft system.

And windows doesn't count cause thats forced upon me.

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Cesar_ser_4
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:05:35 AM

Leave the OS out of this.

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FatherSun
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 7:34:49 PM

There are alternatives to Windows.

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Cpt_Geez
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:55:08 PM
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That happened to me also I'm not buying another xbox either. The ps3 dominated my game time, especially in the last 3 years when it seemed like Microsoft gave up on exclusive games.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 10:56:01 PM
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Ben, just wondering if this editorial was inspired by my comments regarding Rare, Banjo Kazooie, and my 360 experience?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:56:28 PM

No, sorry. I didn't see those.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:04:50 AM

::whimper::

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 8:38:25 PM

RIP in Peace

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:02:00 PM
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I think MS will be coasting this generation, they put in that little boost of cash to make a few games stick out at the front of the generation. Then they will peter out again and have to decide whether or not to stay in the business.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:04:05 PM

COD alone will keep them afloat in the gaming sector. It may be a multiplat but damn does it sell extremely well for MS.

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PSN French
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:54:20 AM

The attachment rate in the US for COD Ghosts is higher on the PS4 over the XB1. I, personally, don't think this is a win for Sony, but your argument is invalid :)

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:06:56 AM

Ghosts attachment rate to XboxONE: 38.9%
Ghosts attachment rate to PS4: 35.8%

Boom, sucka. Facts.


Let's do more. This is fun!

CoD:G to 360: 10.6%
CoD:G to PS3: 9.5%

Damn... guess LV was right. What a bish, eh?

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Cesar_ser_4
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:29:02 AM

We need to go deeper Underdog.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 5:19:45 AM

What's your source, Underdog? VGChartz?

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 7:47:00 AM

@Beam
Yeah. That plus some ol' arithmetic. I know they aren't completely accurate, but with the disparity in systems sold and the relatively large difference in percentages, it's a safe bet. (I know 3% doesn't sound like much, but it isn't an essay score. It is a pretty comfortable margin. I'd guess the margin of error to be around 1-1.5%)

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Temjin001
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:40:38 PM

just for MS to gain that small percentage lead costs them a crap load in buying out exclusivity. With MS showboating CoD all these years you'd think they would have more of a gain. All I see is MS bleeding money for no good reason

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Akuma_
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:44:08 PM

Attach rate is relative is it not?

What we should be looking at is total units sold on each console.

Since the PS4 is leading in sales, then a small difference in percentage attach rate is a large difference in units sold.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:53:30 PM

Attach rate is more than relative. There are a lot of conclusions to draw through it.

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:15:57 PM
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That's the history of MS consoles - MS lays on the exclusives pretty thick in the beginning courting stages. Then completely neglects your needs as time goes on making you feel unloved to the point where you find yourself in the arms of another console!

Seriously though, Sony has a great history of providing a good stream of quality exclusives as well as providing a good VARIETY of gaming experiences.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, June 23, 2014 @ 11:48:16 PM
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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:05:04 AM

Perhaps a little pleasure

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Killa Tequilla
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:07:00 AM

:)

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:10:44 AM

Info doesn't fit....

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kraygen
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:34:07 AM
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Almost everything xbox comes to pc these days and even if Fable Legends doesn't, from what I've seen Fable doesn't even look like Fable anymore.

As for the others, you could always wait until the end of the generation, they'll either be on pc or you can pick it all up for cheap if there's enough to be worth an xbox 1.

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SuMtOnE
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:23:37 AM
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If you have the money why not? since usually people buy a certain system to play their EXCLUSIVES.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:30:59 AM

Yeah, sort of my point. Xbox platforms have exclusives to start and then they peter out.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 2:02:49 AM
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If I can get about 20 to 30 good to great exclusives from a.console, its worth owning in my book. Neither Xbox system let me down for that and a highly doubt the X1 will either. If MSS can be left alone by the bookkeepers and stockholders and can somehow regain their footing after the shaky start, I see this gen having more parity than any other between the two systems. Plus, having my favorite developer in Platinum Games make an exclusive thats headed by one of gaming's brightest minds, Hideki Kamiya, would have been a personal system seller if I hadn't already owned it.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 7:49:03 AM

I agree, but I am curious to know what 20-30 exclusives you're referring to. I don't want a list or anything, but any recommendations outside halo, gears, forza, Fable, Allan Wake, and Lost Odyssey? Those are the only ones I know of. It's an honest question.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 8:23:40 AM

It depends on what you like. I wouldn't say that there are any hidden epic games in the 360 library but it's lousy with solid gems like Ninja Blade, B&K: Nuts and Bolts, Condemned: Criminal Origins, Ace Combat 6, Last Remnant, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, Crackdown, and Culdcept Saga.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 8:43:59 AM

The original Xbox was far superior, though. Halo, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Phantom Dust, Escape From Butcher Bay, Oddworld: Stranger, Oddworld: Munchs Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden Black, Crimson Skies, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Otogi to name some. A hell of a system which had the unfortunate luck of being on the shelve alongside an absolute beast of a system in terms of library, the PS2. Still, like the GameCube it was a great boutique system. Not gonna fill the shelves but enough content to keep me coming back.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 10:23:55 AM

Yeah, I had the original XBOX too. Played it a fair bit. Loved that games like Forza and some sports games would play my music in the background. I still used the PS2 more, but the XBOX certainly wasn't neglected. Also, at that time, paying for Live made sense. I owned a 360 at one point. Once PSN got decent, paying for live seemed silly and I stopped using it. I ended up selling it and using the profits to pay for an engagement ring. :p

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:11:20 AM

I think it's funny that Kid likes to name basically every single exclusive every Xbox has ever had, forgetting that half of them flat-out SUCK and apparently, also forgetting that it would take me pages to list ALL the exclusives for the PS2 and PS3.

Microsoft doesn't do exclusive software. They just don't. Not in comparison to either Sony or Nintendo.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:33:41 AM

Oh and I was just posting something nice about you down below. lol. MS has no established first party after almost 15 years....very true. This is not a MS vs Sony thing more of an MS and Sony (and of course the king of gaming Nintendo). I find the Xbox to be worth owning as ive laid out above. In this era, where exclusives are no longer dropped wholesale in Sony's lap, and owning just one PS system meant you had pretty much access to the best every genre had to offer, it seems a necessity now, more than ever, to own every console to get the complete gamind experience of a generation. I say this why my excitement for Xenoblade Chronicles X grows and grows and the PS4 equivalent next year is? ...... Exactly..

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:53:08 AM

eh... I agree on the original XBOX, but I don't think we see eye-to-eye on the current gen comparisons...

I actually think the combined exclusive and multiplat list for the next 6-8 months looks pretty sick. Once November rolls around, it'll be the start of year 2, so year one really won't have much more at this point, but year 2 looks to be a 4-peat of the history of Sony year 2 excellence.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 2:28:29 PM

Yeah we'll have ti disagree there, my friend. Sony has a great lineup but nowhere near the exclusives of the fifth and sixth generation that made owning another console an afterthought. I guess a person can convince themselves otherwise that there are just maybe 1 or 2 games on competing consoles worth owning and playing. I am at the other end of the spectrum. I make excuses on why I do need to play them.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:56:02 PM

The problem is that "games worth playing" is entirely reliant on your preferences.

For me, for example, lets look at a Sony exclusive, since some may deem me a Sony fanboy. While I can admit there is quality in God of War, I hate it with a passion. If you released top notch God of War, GTA, Halo (for argument's sake), Battlefield, inFamous... and they were all exclusive to Sony, I would not be interested in any.

Titanfall isn't my bag and is mediocre by all accounts, and Sunset overdrive is supposedly similar in many ways to inFamous. So neither interest me in the slightest. My opinion lies in neither spectrum entirely, either... I don't think either of them have anything worth playing right now. Hence why I own neither.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 2:04:22 AM
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Xbox has ALWAYS been a Playstation clone since its inception int he ps2 era.

This is the era where Sony and Nintendo can dominate together again.

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matt99
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 8:57:23 AM

I don't even know if you can consider Sony and Nintendo competitors anymore...I mean literally ALL conversation regarding next gen is xbox/PS4, and rightly so.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:59:18 AM

Holy hell where have you been for the past few years?

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SpuckUnites
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 2:57:47 AM
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If theres only a few games you'd like to play or try then I'd just borrow someones X1 for a week or however long they allow you to have their precious lol

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Cole
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 3:38:42 AM
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I was thinking about getting an Xbox One for Dead Rising 3. But since it's coming to pc now, there's no need for that anymore.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:14:06 PM

Hopefully you didn't miss that it was $37 dollars on Steam a day or so ago.

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Cole
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 12:33:42 PM

Crud.. I did miss that. But to be honest, I probably wouldn't have jumped on that offer. The game's only coming in September after all and I don't usually pre-order stuff that far in advance.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 1:20:52 PM

I understand, I don't usually do that either. But it was the first day of the Summer Sale and my wallet wouldn't stfu.

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GMRX
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 4:04:57 AM
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My issue is that whenever I'm interested in an Xbox One game to possibly encourage me to buy an Xbox One, it goes and appears on PC as well, destroying my need to buy one.

I happen to have a really good gaming PC, so alongside my PS4 there has been very little to persuade me to buy Xbox One.

Like Ben said, there are only so many Halos and Gears you can play before it becomes a little repetitive.

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Big_Boss90
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 4:34:10 AM
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Gotta say ben if we don't cover xbox on PSXE why bother writing about it, please explain.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:17:36 AM

I like when he does it. He has his own personal views on each system, but to me editorials like this are an acknowledgement of the diversity of the PSXE readers. Even though we post our opinions at our own risk sometimes,for the very most part, it remains civil. Not many places out there can say the same.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 5:02:31 AM
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The XBO is going to be my first Xbox console, but not for a few years when it has more titles under its belt and is a lot cheaper. I mean, Sunset Overdrive, Scalebound, Halo:MCC & Guardians, Quantum Break, Dead Rising 3, (perhaps Forza Horizon 2 or 3...). Plus more is surely coming. I know that it will go from a trickle to a flood then back to a trickle, but the trickle is enough to warrant a cheap purchase in a couple of years' time.

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moss12
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 6:16:09 AM
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I have never even played an Xbox system and probably never will. I find their Sales tactics and lack of customer service unappealing.I probably wouldnt play one if it were loaned to me.Sony has never let me down so why would I look elsewhere for gaming goodness.

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FatherSun
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 7:32:56 PM

This coming from someone with a Green Avatar! Green belongs to Xbox.

Just messing with you. Seriously though, That is the exact reason that I have never personally purchased an Xbox. MS always came off as a snake oil soothsayer type of company. Something to that effect. They have never really felt genuine to me. Not to mention the nickles and dimes they have squeezed from customers rigor the years. I applaud their business savvy and recent efforts but they sometimes cross some ethical boundaries.

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Japanese_Gamer
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 6:52:39 AM
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Never was tricked into buying that piece of crap.

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___________
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 9:41:36 AM
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kinda ironic considering how the tables have turned now.
exactly why everyones so disappointed with the ps4 its normally $ony who has tons of exclusives lined up for the year or so.
not M$.
i mean from now to end of next year M$ has halo MCC, halo guardians, the new gears, fable legends, sunset overdrive, project spark, that new platinum games game announced at E3 cant remember its title, D4, crackdown 3, forza horizon, quantum break, both of harmonixs new games and a whole ton of indie titles!
$ony has the order 1886, that facebook game,LBP 3, uncharted 4, bloodrayne or whatever its called the spiritual successor to demon souls, and crapcoms deep down which we dont even know if it will release outside JP, and a whole heap of indie titles.
13 to 6.
bit of a stark contrast, no?
amazing how quickly and drastically this industry can change!


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Lord carlos
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 10:47:50 AM

Your f*cking delusional or a microsoft damage control employee.
Theres just as many if not more games coming out on PS4 between now & dec 2015.

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FatherSun
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 7:37:20 PM

Just as it may be amazing that things can easily change again. Sony isn't being quiet for nothing.

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___________
Thursday, June 26, 2014 @ 9:58:04 AM

you should talk lord moron!
ok, so if $ony has more exclusives due to release by the end of 2015 enlighten us oh knowledgeable one.
exactly, get your head out of your a$$ and start seeing the sunshine!
f*ck, even the wiiu has a better lineup than the ps4 ATM!
never thought id be saying that six months ago........

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Harerazer
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 10:25:05 AM
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Personally I don't see the logic in buying ANY console just to play 1 or 2 games (unless it's Pokemon :-D). That's like buying a CD player to listen to one album or group. That being said, if you think you'll enjoy a game for whatever time justifies the purchase then go ahead and buy it. If you believe you'll play (and end up playing) Sunset Overdrive for the next three years regularly then it would have been worth the $460 purchase when stacked against other games that may give you 20-40 hours of enjoyment for the $60 they charge. I paid $35 bucks for my XB360 (shipping from a friend who gave it to me free actually) and after two years it still hasn't justified that cost. That doesn't make me warn others against it, it just didn't do it for me.

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Lord carlos
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 10:39:24 AM
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Only got the original xbox and modded the crap out of it cause i did'nt feel like giving MS my money.

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Cueil
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 11:50:45 AM
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There are no sure things in life. Sony could hire a guy like Don Mattrick who, while turning their business into a money making machine, alienates you and others on this site. There is nothing saying that Phil Spencer will remain in charge of Xbox for the duration of this generation, but chances are good that the guy who was there form the start and was a major factor in the initial success of the Xbox 360 getting a ton of new IPs and games will do the same for Xbox One now that he's in charge of everything. Remember Ben that you play games... not consoles. If you,finacially, have the means to own both then it would behoove you as a lover of gaming to own them both. I saved for months to make sure I would get both consoles at launch and I don't regret it a bit.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 4:47:52 PM
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If you were into multi on the past gen you at least had the excuse of majority of multis are better on 360, now that faded away.

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smileys_007
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 6:23:00 PM
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i never bought an xbox console, and I will never buy one in the future.. It's not like that I hate xbox, it's just that the playstation consoles are more than enough for me... ^_^

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ulsterscot
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 @ 8:56:34 PM
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bought the titanfall bundle with the digital edition of titanfall. now ithe game wont load up which means my new Xbox is now just a dust gatherer untill the Master Chief collection comes out. Titanfall was pretty damn good too.

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anjpikapp3
Wednesday, June 25, 2014 @ 4:57:53 PM
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This is funny since I was just talking about this with a friend....I own a PS4 and he owns (owned) both, the XBONE and PS4. He said he wanted to get rid of his XBONE due to that fact that the only thing that has turned it on since Ryse was Aaron Paul's commercial (lol). He purchased Titanfall for the XBONE but then got a PC copy and says that the PC copy is leaps and bounds above the XBONE. Anyway, he traded the XBONE in for a Wii U and actually uses the WiiU more than the XBONE.

NOTE: if you ever want to see the look of utter confusion on a persons face, take you XBONE in to trade for a WiiU....BEST FACE EVER!!!

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