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Analyst Thinks $299 Might Be The "Magic" Number For PS4

Even though the reaction to Sony's PlayStation 4 announcement has been mostly positive, we have yet to see a solidified launch date and price.

And of course, both are important. Recently, we'd heard from various sources that the new console will have a couple of models, one priced at $430 and the other priced at $530. That sounds more than reasonable to us, but one analyst believes Sony might go even lower.

In speaking to GamesIndustry International, Inside Network analyst Billy Pidgeon said the "magic price point" for the PS4 is actually only $299.

"I'd like to see maybe two models, one under $300 and one under $400 would be ideal. $299 is the magic price point. I think this current generation took way too long to get there. It has to be under $400 and honestly if they could subsidize it further and take more of a hit, it might be worth their while in the long run."

But regardless of price, Pidgeon seems to believe that both the PS4 and Xbox 720 will initially see slower sales out of the gate. This means that both manufacturers will continue to back the current consoles for some time.

"Uptake during the first year is going to be slower than people expect. And to keep a viable business in terms of profit margins, they're going to have to do their best to keep their current-gen platforms viable as they're perhaps moving into next-gen more slowly than they did last time. Historically, we've seen generational transitions where the previous generation just dropped off a cliff when the new console came out, but that would really hurt either Sony or Microsoft if that happened."

Yes, the industry is changing. But in recent generations, Sony has never allowed their older systems to "drop off a cliff" when the new console came out; the PS1 and PS2 continued to sell very well for several years after their successors were on store shelves. There's no doubt the same thing will happen with the PS3. As for price, $299 may be too much to hope for...

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, ps4 price, ps4 cost

2/22/2013 11:27:46 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (79 posts)

Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 11:46:27 AM
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If the hardware they are talking about is in there, a $299 pricepoint is a stretch.

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Clamedeus
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:38:58 PM

Agreed, I believe it's going to be higher than that. Maybe 400-500? I think that will be the range, like most people have been saying. I would be very surprised if it's in the 300 range.

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Norrin Radd
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 11:49:13 AM
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Well, I'd like it to be $50. That's even MORE accessible!!!!


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Come on. $300???? Really??? Whatever. Yeah, it'll be cheaper than the WiiU. Oops, forgot sarcasm was turned off. My bad.

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PoopsMcGee
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 11:53:53 AM

lol

True dat.

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slugga_status
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 11:53:39 AM
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Wishful thinking if you ask me. $399 and $499 models seems like the more likely numbers..

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Sunni_Boi
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 11:59:39 AM
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$299 would be nice, but im ready 2 give about $499.

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:08:28 PM
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I'm going to say $399, that seems more realistic.

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Simcoe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:19:58 PM
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$299 = Sony's in it for the long haul (Sony heavily subsidizing the hardware) (6-7 years).
$399 = This will be a much shorter hardware cycle (Sony not taking a hit on hardware) (4-5 years).

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:40:05 PM

There's no way in hell the hardware revealed can sustain a 6-7 year lifecycle as the only Sony console. 4-5 years perhaps, but after that time, it will be so thoroughly obsolete that it will need replacement.

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Simcoe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:49:33 PM

I really do believe they want to get back into a shorter cycle. I could see a bit of push back (especially from the media) if they announce a new one in four years, so I do see five years being more likely.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:57:34 PM

Ubisoft, of course, has already come out crowing that PS4 better be a short cycle. *eyeroll*

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___________
Saturday, February 23, 2013 @ 7:53:40 AM

they did not say next gen better be a short one, they said dont take 7 freaking years to announce the next system!
which is fair enough, 7 years is WAY too long to be stuck with a system, especially at the rate technology is moving at!

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richfiles
Monday, February 25, 2013 @ 4:57:16 PM

You know... I've been looking for a third job, am struggling to even buy games for my PS3 that I already have... and now they want to sell a PS4. In this economy, I could have waited another year or two and not felt bad about it.

I know they'll have early adopters, and that's very good. Despite my financial hardships, I know they feel they can establish a new console at the end of the year, so more power to them.

Just don't expect me buying one till the bugs are worked out and a year or two has already passed. I'll catch the rest of you guys on the PS4 then! :P

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PSN French
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:23:15 PM
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If we remember how much money Sony was willing to lose with every PS3 sold at launch, I don't think $299 is far from the truth. In fact, the PS3s hardware was developed from scratch, so hardware costs are probably much cheaper for the PS4. I don't know, I'd like to see a $299 price point. I'll probably camp out for a launch console if this is the case.

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Simcoe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:31:53 PM

Yeah, but PS3 had A LOT riding on it's success, not only playstation but also Sony in terms of the Blu-ray...that HAD to win for them.

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Fane1024
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 6:33:12 AM

Also, Sony actually had a little money to spare then. Not so much anymore.

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Nas Is Like
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:23:20 PM
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I wouldn't mind if it was $299, but I doubt that will be the case. Maybe for the slim PS4 they will come out with.

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Solid Fantasy
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:25:52 PM
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Can I get a more expensive model with stronger specs? I actually don't care about the hardware, I just hate seeing any amount of sacrifice to aid the average price wining console gamer!

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Crabba
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 4:13:46 PM

That would be awesome. Unlikely, but awesome.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:33:09 PM
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I'd pay $600, easily.

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:40:52 PM

For the PS4 as announced? Or a PS4 with PS3 compatibility in the box?

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Cesar_ser_4
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 7:49:31 PM

600 for the PS4 with the Cell and EE and Graphics Synthesizer please.

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Gabriel013
Monday, February 25, 2013 @ 2:14:35 AM

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic LV. For what has been announced I certainly wouldn't pay any where near as much as last time. If the HW cycle is going to be shortened then the release price needs to be slashed. I'd like to think very few people will be willing to spend $600 on a console which is likely only going to be relevant for 4-5 years and even then it will be looking dated.

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cadpig
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 12:35:27 PM
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Sony has to meet or beat Microsoft new box pricewise. There is too much competition to justify a higher price tag.

$399 sounds about right. Still, i would be more than happy to pay $299 for a new PS4

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Gabriel013
Monday, February 25, 2013 @ 2:15:57 AM

especially as it looks like the HW capabilities aren't going to be too different.

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ethird1
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:11:31 PM
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You give me a 299 brand new sony machine that is NOT STRIPPED DOWN, and I will drop the ps3 like a bad habit and forget that I cant play psn games from my ps3 on it. It will also bring the system to the masses.

Have they not learned yet? 299 IS the price that will make everyone buy it and will allow the 3rd parties to make a buck.

End of Line.

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:24:07 PM

You get what you pay for. $299 launch price = cheap as chip hardware and reliability down the toilet.

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Gabriel013
Monday, February 25, 2013 @ 2:19:02 AM

My launch PS3 cost £425, then it burned its graphics chip off the board and I had to pay £75 for a repair, then the thing started to overheat AGAIN so I had to buy another PS3 (slim) at £215 around Christmas time.

I REALLY don't want Sony to scrimp on making this thing last the whole of the expected lifespan of the generation just for the sake of making it cheaper.

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SaiyanSempai
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:37:02 PM
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Do people realize that most cell phones cost more than $300?

Not to mention that my friend just bought a new Nvidia graphics card for his computer that ran over $400, and it doesn't even have 8 GB of DDR5 memory.

And none of those even come with a nice controller or a BD drive.

You get what you pay for, especially when it comes to new tech. People need to get their head out of the clouds and start putting things into perspective. You want something? It will cost money.

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:56:18 PM

Agreed.

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Crabba
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 4:17:51 PM

Well, a $400 graphics card is also SEVERAL times more powerful than the GPU in the PS4, and the 8GB RAM in the PS4 is total system RAM, not Video RAM.

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Underdog15
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 7:53:51 PM

@Crabba
That doesn't make his post less true. It was a great example.

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Crabba
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 10:20:08 PM

Underdog15 I agree with him that you get what you pay for, but he made it sound like the $400 graphics card is inferior to the GPU included in the PS4 with the "and it doesn't even have 8 GB of DDR5 memory" comment, which is just plain wrong.

I'd be ecstatic if Sony would put more powerful hardware in the PS4 and set a higher pricepoint, but that's obviously not the case, and I can unfortunately see why with all the complaints early in the PS3's life about the cost... Flipside of that coin is Sony still has to make people want to upgrade, and to do that they have to make the PS4 powerful enough, which I don't feel it is with the specs revealed...

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Gabriel013
Monday, February 25, 2013 @ 2:21:25 AM

I'd love to see better HW with a view to an even longer generation this time round and I'd pay handsomely for it.

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Beamboom
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:47:54 PM
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What annoys me with this kind of bullshit is that it risk skewing the markets perception of a price.
This price is obviously too low, but if the market now all of a sudden expect such a price, well then the real price - who othervice would be received as fair - could all of a sudden be perceived as too expensive.


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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:56:53 PM

Welcome to the anti-sony media bandwagon...

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Beamboom
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:47:07 PM

Oh well, it's an analyst saying this, not a journalist. Ben is just citing.

But seriously, how is the media coverage of the PS4 over at your side of the planet? Cause here in Norway it really is 99% pure excitement and positivity.
Ironically, the place I've found most negativity about the next PS is in the comments right here at PSXE...!

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:51:47 PM

That negativity comes from the dashed hopes of people who felt that Sony did not care to be common.

I don't know what the media coverage is here, I presume it's positive also. The point I was making was that this analysts price prediction is just the kind of crap that happened almost 7 years ago when PS3 announcement was imminent. Unrealistic price rumors are dangerous.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:02:16 PM

With the hardware gone common as Highlander says the hype and interest around here is (aside from the games)in the kind of abilities, gameplay, and innovative software possibilities that PS4 will bring to the table. True 21st century stuff where PS3 was powerful but lacking almost all of that.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:50:32 PM
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My prediction is $400 for base model, premium model $500.

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:59:33 PM

The premium model plays PS3 games? Or perhaps the Premium model has higher clocks?

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:35:54 PM

Don't have the answers to your questions, but I thought u would already know since I heard/read that your the tech whiz around here from previous posts you made.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:03:19 PM

Maybe that would be for a big ass hard drive and 2 years of PSPlus.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:17:32 PM

A 1 tera would be sweet along with a year of PSN+, don't think they would do 2 though. Let's say the base model came with 500gb-1 year PSN+ same hardware specs (if they did come out with a premium model) for $399 that would be a great starting price.

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Cesar_ser_4
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 9:10:10 PM

Heh, yeah highlander, that would be just as crippling as say, models without HDDs? people wont respond very well to a console with two skus one of which has higher clock speeds than the other one.

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 1:58:55 PM
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In addition to the unrealistic launch price rumors, I'd just like to add a counterpoint to he unrealistic ideas abut streamed gameplay...

I'm still waiting for the announcement of the second most important component in the system - the Miraculous Internet Latency Removal chip set - aka MITRe(TM). With MITRe installed, your streamed gameplay from across the Net won't suffer from unplayable lag in real time control games, such as fighters like Soul Calibur.

Want a demonstration of how bad lag can be on a streamed game? Get two PS3s, hook them to the Net, start the same multiplayer game on both using different accounts. Get both players into the same game room and watch the character logged into the fist PS3 on the second PS3's screen, watch the lag between controller input and movement on the second system's screen. That my friends is what you are looking at in the future for streamed gameplay without the MITRe(TM) chip...

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Beamboom
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:48:45 PM

... Unless, of course, this service is designed differently than you assume. ;)

(oh no, no no, I'm not starting *that* discussion again. :D )

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:55:38 PM

Have that discussion all you like Beam, it's 100% confirmed that the PS3 games will not run locally - which was an assumption made by yourself in the 'design' of the service you envisaged. the only way to get around latency issues on the Net is to do away with the basic infrastructure of the net. You could have fiber into the home from the ISP and it would still suffer latency from the router hops. If you are as smart and knowledgeable as you seem, you already know this. So how do you propose to build a cloud streaming gameplay to consoles with no latency issue? remember, running the game code locally is out of the equation - Sony already did us the service of telling us that. So apart from something like MITRe(TM), how do you propose it be done?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:05:28 PM

I've done that and was fairly impressed with how little lag there was, with the preloading software Sony talked about maybe they can cut it down quite a bit.

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darxed
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:14:02 PM

Highlander, did you know that there is a homeland security and federal defense company called MITRE? When I saw your post I thought "Holy Sh*t, no wonder He knows so much about tech stuff"

He he he

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Beamboom
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:29:46 PM

@High,
When did they say the stream service never runs any game code locally (what clip, do you even have roughly the time)?
Seriously, I am wondering, I never watched the video presentation, only read the summaries and have not seen anything written about this.

I can not think of any other way to avoid network latency than to cache code.

@World,
Same to you, in what context was that preloading feature presented, was it in regards to the stream service? You know what clip it can be seen?


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maxpontiac
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:55:17 PM

I have three PS3's hooked up at my house and it is not nearly as bad as you say it is. In fact the three of us played BO2 together quite a lot.



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bigrailer19
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 5:06:41 PM

I have friends over from time to time and we play with my 20mbps service and theres really no lag. There can be from time to time as more bandwidth gets used, say all the phones and pc's in the house log on. But really its runs smooth from both sides. Thats about all I can give to this conversation.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 6:04:30 PM

They basically said the emerging Gaikai technology was going to be capable of cutting streaming lag by a wide margin and preloading will enable us to start playing games the moment we begin to download them (and sometimes beforehand by anticipating our tastes and preferences) instead of waiting for long downloads and installs. So it sounds like the streaming service could possible go hand in hand with some sort of caching of the downloaded code right on the system. (speculation, I'm not a techie anymore)

Highlander is saying they won't be delivering on what they said was possible, which I hope isn't true.

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Simcoe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 8:34:21 PM

I have no issues believing that PS4 games can be streamed and played real-time. I've tried Gaikai on my old Laptop (playing Crisis 2) and was shocked how well it worked. With regards to PS3 games (I suppose PS2 to a lesser extent), I think it was Mark Cerny who said that the PS3 titles would be "rolled out". Perhaps PS3 titles will have to be "tweaked" so that some of the code can run locally. This may not be a big problem with third-party titles that had an accompanying PC version of the game, but may take more time with PS3 exclusives. Either way, still seems like a huge undertaking for BC.

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Cesar_ser_4
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 9:14:27 PM

Well guys if any of that is true. Say goodbye to your Uncharted graphics.

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 10:08:55 PM

Beamboom, the reports I read of the conference were quite specific that the PS4 would not run any previous PlayStation software and that it would be handled through the cloud service. That is specific enough for me, and should be for you, but I guess since they did not explicitly say it would not, you will cling to that for the sake of argument.

But, let's suppose that they wanted to try emulating the CellBE on their 8 jaquar core system. You have a simple problem to overcome, it's actually impossible to do. The Cell BE runs at 3GHz, the Jaguar cores in the PS4 cpu will run at a substantially lower clock rate. The CEll BE has 7 cores running, the Januar has 8, with the overheads involved in emulating a CPU you need the system you are running the emulation on to be significantly faster than the system you are emulating. Since the Jaguars can't even issue an instruction as frequently as the Cell BE can, how do you propose to perform any level of local emulation of the Cell? And please, let's not pussy foot around this any longer, you can't emulate a 7 core CPU running at 3GHz on an 8 core CPU using a completely different instruction set and a significantly lower clock speed, it is simply impossible.

So, no local execution, therefore everything runs in the cloud, therefore you are entirely dependent on the network latency for the ability to control fast games.

Worlds, I don't care how impressed you were with how little lag there was, the lag is there and it's appreciable. You can color this however you want, but it doesn't alter fundamental facts concerning Internet latency.

@Max, I made no quantification of how bad the lag was from your personal perspective, the point is that it is appreciable.

Simcoe, short of a miracle, you can't get the lag out of the service without loading and running the game locally. There is an inherent network lag just on the hops from your console to your router and then on to your ISP's perimeter router, even if Gaikai had a game server running right at the perimeter of your ISP you would still see some lag.

Cesar_ser_4
Indeed, there will be pixelation trying to send a truly 720p video stream down anyone's Internet link, and if you have more than one gamer using the service at once in most any residence your Net is gonna saturate immediately. People here don't get the problem here, it's like the thought of emulating a 7 code CPU running at 3GHz on an 8core CPU running under 2GHz, it's pie in the sky at best.

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SuMtOnE
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:05:00 PM
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count me in for $599.99 HIGHER END MODEL and the lowerd end model $499.99

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Highlander
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:06:12 PM

Not gonna happen, Sony does not want any headlines at all that can claim a $600 launch price for the PS4.

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gumbi
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:07:41 PM
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There's no way it'll launch for $299. Not unless Sony is ready to eat a huge loss on it for a while. Either that or the build quality will be crap.

I don't understand this mentality. How is it totally acceptable for the latest mobile device or iThing to be $600 - $1000, but a new console can't be more than $300?

I'm fully prepared for a $499 launch tag. Maybe with a lesser entry model for $399. Telling everyone it should be $299 is just setting the unknowing up for disappointment and frustration.

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taus90
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 2:28:09 PM
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$450 for a base model and $599 with vita. Both the SKU should have atleast 6 months subscription service of their brilliant PSN service which they showcased at playstation meeting.. it will help to build a good user database

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cadpig
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:07:00 PM
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C'mon..A phone or a tablet is a whole different animal than a console.

Do you guys really think that anybody other than rabid fanboys are willing to pay $499 and $599 for a game console? Give me a break.




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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:09:12 PM

A lot of people paid that before who weren't rabid, many paid that twice over for multiple xboxs.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:08:18 PM
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That just means it won't hit it's stride until the price lowers that far, maybe 2 years into the life of it. No big deal because PS3 will still be gaining and it looks like the PS4 features are going to roll out slowly like Vita's. I'm not happy about that PC-like part of where we are heading but you take the bad with the good.

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CrusaderForever
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:13:58 PM
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Launch price does not matter to me. Top SKU will be $499.

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Gordo
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:30:48 PM
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PS4 price $499US. Check.
Aussie dollar 1:1 with the US dollar. Check.
PS4 launch price in Australia $699AU. WTF...

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Fane1024
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 6:43:27 AM

VAT rates?

(US tax isn't included.)

p.s. I know you guys get screwed over and above the VAT, but the prices aren't directly comparable due to taxes being handled differently.

My $600 PS3 cost me nearly $750 (CDN) when all was said and done.

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Temjin001
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 3:46:10 PM
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If it's somehow $300 at launch this may mean I'd get once about one year after. Much more than that would mean waiting another year, or so.
Personally, I find this $300 price point extremely unlikely so I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm thinking 400-500. Maybe, just maybe 350-450

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amonte64
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 5:04:53 PM
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No matter how many here don't want to admit it, it's true that not having BC will make more people buy the PS4 at a later date. Two big reasons alone, they have to have a PS3 to play PS3 games so they won't sell it to go towards a PS4, a huge amount of people do. Second, many thing, why get a PS4 when there's still so many amazing games coming out on PS3? And for the people who don't think so, it is really is a hassle and inconvenience having to have multiple consoles to play the games you want. Remember not everyone is a gaming nerd that lives on games and have multiple consoles hooked up.

On price, $300 isn't impossible, Sony could sell at a loss. Also, Wii U cost what it does because of the controller, drop the controller and how much would it cost? $200-250? exactly. PS4 could range from $300-$400 with different bundles. Whether people want to admit it or not, $300 is the sweet spot.

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bigrailer19
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 5:16:08 PM

I hear ya. You make perfect sense. But from my point of view, I got my PS3 sold my PS2 and was instantly pissed I did that. I quickly realized I had a PS3 for a reason and it wasnt to play PS2 games. Now, sure having a console that does it all is fine. But I rarely in fact only GoW2 and Socom on maybe on 2 occasions were ever in my PS3. But now since my PS3 60gb broke, and I have the 80gb that didnt come with b/c I have PS2 games that are just collecting dust really. So it goes both ways.

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Fane1024
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 6:53:06 AM

Railer,

PS2 didn't have PSN games. BC on a PS4 would get more use than it did on our 60s. Instant game collection.

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ethird1
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 5:55:11 PM
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If you make a game and depend on the masses to sell it to make a buck, you have to have sell tons of hardware out there in order to sell it.

News flash kiddos, not many systems are going to be sold if that system is over 450 bucks. So if not alot of systems are sold then even less games are going to be sold.

Sony will make behind the doors deals in order to compensate for the lack of games sold in the beginning. They will let the system see what it can sell to the dumbasses willing to pay 600 dollars for a game system. They will continue to do so for as long as they can until they start to see it fail then they will lower it down. JUST LIKE THE PS3. The sales of the ps3, with the pricecut, will help soften the low sales of the PS4. If the ps4 will sale for 450 or higher.

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ethird1
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 5:58:02 PM

Oh. The idea of "Well a phone cost 300 dollars!" and justifying it for a 600 dollar price tag on the ps4 is crazy.

Phones do so much more than the ps3, and is designed to be socially important for many things in life, including entertainment.

The ps4 is an entertainment system. Period.

You lose.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 22, 2013 @ 6:11:30 PM

They didn't sell PS3 at 600 to see if people were dumb enough to pay it, they sold it at that because even that price wasn't what it cost to manufacture a single console. And all console prices naturally lower over time as the tech becomes less expensive to produce.

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___________
Saturday, February 23, 2013 @ 7:59:35 AM
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i would say thats far too cheap, but for the crappy specs revealed that sounds about right.
obviously depending on how much its costing $ony, and that runs of the deal they have with AMD.
but through a mass production system such as this, and $ony know they NEED to be competitive, 350 maybe max for the base system sounds about right.

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phade2blaq
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 11:16:06 AM
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Between $299 and $399 would be an ideal price point !

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Ultima
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 12:58:02 PM
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Highlander:

> You get what you pay for. $299 launch price = cheap as chip hardware and reliability down the toilet.

Prove it.

(Though I too think 299 is a stretch and 399 is probably more likely).

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Highlander
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 6:51:48 PM

cheap as chips hardware? Or the reliability? If you have a low price you are sacrificing on one or more areas, build quality, quality of components, speed of components profit. To bring the PS4 in at $299 you either have crap components, crap build quality or are taking a bath on the costs. Sony won't be taking a bath on the costs after the PS3, so either the build/component quality is crap, or the components are cheap and slow.

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DjStiv3
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 1:34:21 PM
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what a moronic idiot/comment
of course thats the "magic" number
but not only is it NOT realistic its stupid to think that it will even happen for SOO many reasons heres a few

-hardware
-ps3 still selling & ebing supported
-vitas pricetag why would it cost the same?
-wii u is shit and its 300

need i go on? what a retard

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