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Hey, Remember When MGS And FF Were Exclusive To Sony?

I'm merely making an observation.

There was a time when the revered Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy franchises were exclusive to the PlayStation platform. And yes, thank you Nintendo fans, I know FF started out on the NES.

My point is this: Has anyone noticed that if most people list the best entries in each series, they're almost always talking about the titles that were exclusive to PS1 and PS2...?

No, I'm not saying Microsoft's emergence made both franchises take a dive. That doesn't even make any sense. I'm not saying that just because developers had to start making entries for both platforms, the games suffered in quality. Like I said, it's just an observation. I know a lot of gamers who say Final Fantasy XII was the last great installment in the legendary franchise and coincidentally, it was also the last iteration that was exclusive to PlayStation. A new generation comes along, Square Enix releases FFXIII for Xbox 360 and...hmm...

And I'm not saying Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance wasn't a great game, because it kinda was. It was also a spin-off and not an official entry in the MGS series, so said creator Hideo Kojima. But did it hold a candle to any of the MGS entries on PlayStation? And, looking down the road, will The Phantom Pain be seen as one of the best MGS titles ever, better even than MGS1 through MGS4? I mean, I'm just saying.

Tags: metal gear solid, final fantasy, playstation

8/25/2014 10:12:21 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (32 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 25, 2014 @ 10:39:27 PM
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Soooo if you're not sayin all those things.... what are ya sayin?

I do think going over to MS kinda destroys games though, either because they try to retool for american audiences or just because it happens that way.

It'd be kinda funny if the new Tomb Raider sucked balls and they paid all that money for it. I do think FF Versus is going to be Xbox One timed exclusive actually.

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ethird1
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 9:32:34 PM

For god's sake World! Stop teasing us with the half cartoon porn thing and show us the boobies! Oh yeah ... Final Fantasy SUCKS!!

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bigrailer19
Monday, August 25, 2014 @ 11:20:03 PM
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I certainly would say that Sony exclusives that have jumped ship are declining. But I'm not really blaming MS either. The publishers are really forcing an appeal to all strategy that obviously isn't working. MGS:R and any recent FF prove that.

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cLoudou
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 12:03:40 AM
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Just the state of the industry, HD AAA games have become too expensive to make they need to get as much from every platform possible or have a company buy *exclusivity that would cover the potential loss.

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VampDeLeon
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 12:19:23 AM
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Well.. both the Metal Gear and Final Fantasy franchised were indeed noted as being associated with Playstation when their more dominate titles helped define the console (FF7-10 and MGS1-4) despite the franchise's actual history as never staying truly exclusive to them.

For example as with Metal Gear: MG1 + 2 started first on MSX and MSX2 before being ported to NES and then PS2/PS3. MGS on PS1 and PC, unofficially ported to Dreamcast and remade for Gamecube. MGS2 on PS2, Substance on Xbox first then PS2 before the HD collection. MGS3 on PS2, then later 3DS and the HD collection.

Given how more even the competition and less variety between each consoles, there has been little reason (with the exception of Microsoft's money) to not release the newer games on other platforms to gain more revenue and audience.

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sawao_yamanaka
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 1:19:12 AM

Although metal gear was never ported to the nes. It was two new games, horrible ones at that. They removed everything that made metal gear 1 and 2 good on the msx.

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VampDeLeon
Wednesday, August 27, 2014 @ 1:28:44 PM

Yeah.. instead of MG2 we were given Snake's Revenge on the NES until Subsistence came out with it remade. MG1 was on NES but with changes, such as having supercomputer as the final boss instead of Metal Gear. MG2 really did show off where MGS got its great gameplay and ideas from.

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Dridion
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 1:16:48 AM
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Hell, one can even say the same about DMC. There are plenty of titles that have since went multiplat and have suffered IMO. Not sure what the cause or relation there is, but there has to be some truth to it all lol.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 4:28:26 AM

Tekken, Crash, Spyro, Ridge Racer Oh yes, there are many :(

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KidPresentable
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 1:49:46 AM
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There was no "kinda" about Revengeance being great. It simply was. And for the record, so was FF13. Definitely would agree that they weren't the pinnacle of their respective series, but in all fairness, which PS exclusive that has remained exclusive had their peak in the last gen? Maybe A Crack in Time but that's about it.

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Knightzane
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 4:16:49 AM

I didn't laugh hard from your comment for once. Stop not being funny please.

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big6
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 10:28:49 AM

I got MGS: Revengeance when it first came out, and it's still in its sealed package. I'll get to it one day.
But this is first time I've ever heard anyone refer to it as a great game.
MGS 1-4 were great games. If this comes close, then I'll be happy.

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trumpetmon65
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 10:45:23 AM

i enjoyed revengence. it comes with two free expansions to download too.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 11:04:32 AM

Resistance, Killzone, Uncharted, and as far as I'm concerned, Gran Turismo.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 4:26:37 AM
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Oh my, it's almost as if this article was made for me (Both these franchises being the peak of gaming for me). I think what the biggest concern of all is that due to all these titles leaving the exclusivity of the Playstation, the Playstation it's is have it's identity compromised. Put it like this, without Naughty Dog, where would the Playstation be right now? In deep trouble I could assure you.

As for the direction Final Fantasy has gone... well for one thing I still stand by Final Fantasy XIII being a step in the right direction, despite it's flaws it felt more like a Final Fantasy game than XII ever did. Howver, there was no need for sequels, what was beautiful about Final Fantasy was how each one was unique, you would be given a new world to explore with a new set of character, story and all sorts of similar features tying it back into the feeling like part of the series. The sequels to XIII were overkill, while they had some good parts (Caius made more a much more interesting villain than in the first game) Overall it has made the series lose it's rhythm and while we have Final Fantasy XV on the way, I am still really waiting for Final Fantasy XVI to decide the future of the series.

As for Metal Gear, I don't believe that has been compromised one bit, have you seen the story/gameplay trailers?! I still believe that The Phantom Pain is beyond anything else in the industry, is size, depth, fun and production value. The downfall of Big Boss is something I have been waiting for since MGS3 and I am glad they are presenting it with Big Boss suffering, rather than just having a different political perspective, but really being a decent man. He will become twisted in MGS5 and I am so hyped to see this.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 8:24:46 AM

I thought XII was the direction turn based needed to head in. Faster paced, while still being turn based, and allowing the player to actually control the characters.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 12:17:11 PM

Eh, I had a hard time with Final Fantasy XII. The combat system was just like an MMO, it felt more like an 'Ogre' game, as it had a a lot of the people from that game developing this. I found all I was doing in XII was just running around shooting monsters with Balthier, I used the occasional buff and healing spell, but the majority of the game was just using attack. While in XIII, I felt I was always on my toes with having to use the right Paradigm for the right moment. I personally just found it more engaging.

Along with the story too, the pacing in XII's story was verging on traumatic, I found myself just rushing through the landscapes hoping for some story progression but it would never come. Things got more interesting at the Bahumat event, I wish the rest of the game was that engaging, all I remember from XII is juts running through landscapes. I mean Balthier had personality and Depth, there rest were dull as dishwater. You can call the cast of XIII annoying if you wish, but are XII's blandness for me that was a miracle.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 12:59:22 PM

The story wasn't much, but I can't agree with the quips about the battle system. It was the second best in the series, imo. While some standard mobs could be easy to beat if you over level, there were plenty of hunts and a solid ability to explore that allowed for constant challenge if you wanted it. I wish more gambits would have opened up sooner, but when complete, the customization and strategy you can apply is massive.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 2:36:52 PM

Hmmm we'll have to agree to disagree then, XII's License system was just such a pain as you could not predict where your character was to branch out to to a certain weapon. But I simply did not enjoy the game, FF is so diverse that it caters for many people but XII was the one which I just couldnt stand as it just was not the type of JRPG I enjoy to play. I think I preferred XIII due to it being more a of a character focused story, where in XII the characters were secondary to the politics.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, August 27, 2014 @ 12:19:39 AM

Ah that's interesting, because I thought XIII's dialogue combined with half the story being hidden in a readable archive made the story fall to pieces. I still gave it a decent review though. (I did one in the user reviews here)

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Kevin5
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 11:48:09 AM
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I remember MGS on the PS1 back in 1998, played that game to death & always thought how it was pretty much the pinnacle of gaming at the time.

The high point of the MGS series for me though was Snake Eater, that game is just superb. Here's hoping Phantom Pain can match it's greatness.

I won't bother talking about that turd steam of a game called Revengeance rising or whatever the ridiculous word that fumbled out of their mouths was when they were thinking of a subtitle. I refuse to believe that game carries the Metal Gear label, and although it unfortunately does i will continue to believe in my own world that it doesn't :D

Final Fantasy? I can't stand the series personally, never been big on RPG's so not too bothered by that like alot of people are. Looking back though it's fascinating seeing how far both franchises have come, for better or for worse.

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big6
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 2:50:15 PM

Funny you should mention MGS3 Snake Eater. My friend just started to replay it cuz he bought the MGS collectors set.
That game had awesome boss battles, for sure. If there was a small gripe for me, it'd have to be the constant hunger.
I'd eat something, and 5mins later, my stomach's growling again...

I feel like playing it again, so I can find and shoot all the Kerotans hidden in the game. =)

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Kevin5
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 11:54:31 AM
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What about Onimusha series? Weren't they exclusive for a time? Those were great!

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Lone Wanderer
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 2:54:05 PM
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Metal Gear also came from Nintendo originally.What is this? Misleading articles day?

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Rings0fUranus
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 4:28:27 PM

Metal Gear was originally on the MSX, a Japanese system. Hideo Kojima hated the NES ports.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 3:37:31 PM
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Now Ben, you may not be saying Microsoft played a hand in making the games worse, but in all reality they somewhat did make certain Japanese games changes their ways.

For my example, I am going to use the Ace Combat series. Things were going well when Ace Combat was a PS2 exclusive and as a fan of the series, I was pretty happy. Then along came AC06 and it's exclusive deal with the 360, which by the way, FORCED me into buying a 360.

I won't lie, I loved that game, but little did I know it began a slide toward making the "COD crowd" happy. AC: Assault Horizon, I am looking at you. :(

My only consolation is that Ace Combat Infinity has returned to it's roots per se, but unfortunately, it is somewhat limited by the free-to-play model and its fuel system. With that said, I have sunk over $100.00 into the game because of it's very addicting gameplay, so all is fine on my end.

I sure hope the success of the PS4 brings things back to the PS2 days of gaming. Not every title needs to sell like GTA or COD, but it needs to be built with care and love that the fans of each title expect.

I don't want, nor need my Ace Combat games to appeal to COD fans, after all.



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Rings0fUranus
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 4:35:45 PM
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The best Final Fantasy of all, FFVII, started out life on the ol' N64 until Nintendo decided "Cartridges are the way of all future gaming!"
So in a strange, twisted way, you can kinda sorta maybe thank Nintendo for FF going to Playstation hardware.
I don't know if the 360 had anything to do with FFXIII being a huge steaming pile or not, but I will err on the side of caution and go on record as saying it did.
Although, another huge PS at-one-time-exclusive GTA, has had it's best games come out since it went multiplat.
So maybe it's all a big coincidence.

Anyway, time to take my medicine!

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Bio
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 @ 11:57:04 PM
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MGS was never exclusive to Playstation. MGS1 came out on PC. MGS2 came out on Xbox and PC. Twin Snakes was exclusive to GC.

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Jed
Wednesday, August 27, 2014 @ 2:13:00 AM
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Yea, I remember.

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McWhoopin
Wednesday, August 27, 2014 @ 3:08:36 AM
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I think this is more of a statement on the Japanese gaming industry more than anything else. When Japanese gaming companies started seeing the gaming shift to "twitch gaming" from the thinking gaming of say a JRPG and the sales spikes that ensued for the American companies that made them, Japanese developers started to try to incorporate those elements into their games without any success. In fact, most of them seen a dip in sales because people were pissed off at the changes (like FF10 without its world map and limited travel) and then the devs and companies tried to get their numbers back by making the games multi-platform to increase those sales that were lagging because they alienated their base to begin with.

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Rachet_JC_FTW
Thursday, August 28, 2014 @ 9:47:47 PM
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i'm gunna say i can't but i have to take u guy's word for it.

happy gaming

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trumpetmon65
Friday, August 29, 2014 @ 6:02:24 AM
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final fantasy sure did sell a hell of a lot more when it was exclusive to sony with the exception of FFXI and XIV

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