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So If FFXV Is Announced For The PS4 At E3, What Do You Expect?

So after Square Enix irritated everyone by showing up at the PlayStation Meeting to show off an 8-month-old tech demo, and announced they'd be making an announcement E3, they had better impress people.

At this point, we should all just accept that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is dead and buried. Either that or it has morphed into Final Fantasy XV. No matter what, though, the only announcement the fans will be happy with come E3 is FFXV for next-generation consoles. And if that happens, what do you expect?

It's hard to say. There's zero chance we'll get anything even remotely resembling the traditional Final Fantasy gameplay, so get that out of your head. One can only hope they'll return to actual role-playing; with a solo heroine and all sorts of real-time action in Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, there's reason to be concerned. But let's say they do make FFXV a real RPG...what Western RPGs do you expect it to emulate? Of course it will; it's just a matter of which. Perhaps The Elder Scrolls and its huge expansive landscapes, or maybe Dragon Age with its more linear, party-based approach. I could go with either, I suppose.

Maybe choice will be implemented, too. Who knows what to expect from FFXV at this point? Maybe "Agni's Philosophy" is FFXV. ...but anyway, what do you think FFXV will be like?

Tags: square enix, final fantasy, final fantasy xv, ffxv, final fantasy sequel

3/5/2013 10:33:52 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (42 posts)

Raze22
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 @ 10:56:41 PM
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For some odd reason I still think Versus is going to be announced at E3 and not a FFXV.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 @ 10:58:16 PM
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What do I expect? 6 years of delays culminating in a disappointing action game that lacks distinction, emotion, story, and character that ultimately nobody asked for or wants.

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kraygen
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 @ 11:11:15 PM

Yup, the exact opposite of what the fans are begging for.

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Siris86
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:30:41 AM

So, the game can't even be released (let alone properly revealed) before you say it has a bad story, non-distinctive gameplay, and lack of emotion? That's pretty petty, and it leads one to think that maybe we're not following the same game. And, frankly, I asked for and I want it, and I doubt I'm the only one.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:31:52 AM

You asked for something that you got from Square Enix concerning Final Fantasy?

...dare I ask what?

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Underdog15
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:33:59 AM

Siris, in some places what World said could be considered an "educated guess".

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Siris86
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:35:13 AM

I think the implication is that we're talking about Versus. If he's referring to XIII, then I'd have misspoken.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 7:08:23 AM

Yeah. He's talking about XIII. Although... does versus really exist? ;p

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 8:16:54 AM

I refer you back to the title of this article, what should we expect from FFXV?

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Siris86
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:56:04 PM

My bad then, but, if you follow the trail of bread crumbs, the heavy implication by Square-Enix is that Versus XIII is now FF XV. So I jumped the gun and thought it was a dig on the game itself.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 6:09:33 PM

it was more or less a dig on what happened with XIII, XIII-2, and XIII-3. I'd actually be looking forward to Versus if it were real.

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Knightzane
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 @ 11:26:35 PM
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Im expecting to be blown away by more promises to then wait 7 years and realize that they are trying to slowly and silently kill the incredible thing they announced. I went through middle and high school waiting for vs13. SE has done nothing but disapoint and if this announcement doesn't stir up something ANYTHING, im going to go down to their office, assassinate the CEO, wear a wig and disguise myself as him and control the company my damn self.

You could expect FFX HD, the KH HD's, and vs13 released by the end of the year. Not to mention a port of Lost Oddesey to the ps3 and vita. Yeah, i would make it happen. Something they should have done but instead announce more crap when they should FINISH what they started. God nothing irratates me more than SE. If their going to become publishers, fine. Give FF away to someone who isnt going to *#ore it out for extra money.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 @ 11:44:37 PM
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If they want fans back they are going to have to come to E3 and say "Versus will arrive for PS3 this holiday season. And by the way, Final Fantasy VII Reboot is on track for PS4 exclusivity and we promise not to ruin the battle system!"

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kokoro
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:12:39 AM

Yes please

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daus26
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 1:52:15 AM

They'll probably tell us that FFvsXIII has been set for multi-platorm and scaled down cause of the 360, and announce an HDHD remake of Final Fantasy XIII (first one) for the PS4 with an all new action-battle system... which won't be exclusive to the PS4 btw, except maybe Japan.

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xenris
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:27:55 AM
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I just hope 14 isn't vs13 but on the PS4 instead of the PS3. That would make me sad.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 1:07:25 AM
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What do I expect?
Why, I'm glad you ask.

X for jump
Square for light attack
Triangle for heavy attack
Circle for special skills

Yea, need I say more??!????!?!?!??!?!
As if I'd expect anything more from SE now!!!
Before FFXIII came out I was super pumped for it.
Now I feel like not giving a darn for FFXV.

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 1:19:50 AM
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Wait...your all assuming that FFXV will arrive for PS4? What about vs and FFXIV? Should they not arrive first? Of course with the rumored delivery schedule of the PC4, FFXIV on PC4 could be a reality before FFXV is even announced...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 8:20:11 AM

Your new designation for the PS4 is funny, my dad is a senior citizen and I got him a PS3 for netflix but he never quite grasped the name and always called it a PC3 lol.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 2:01:11 AM
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I don't really expect anything from FF at all. All interest in FF died with my introduction to the franchise with FF13. That's it for me.

But one can always *hope*. And to be honest, what I hope for from a Japanese RPG is something pretty similar to White Knight Chronicles, only *better*. Take WKC and lift it up quite a few notches across the entire board. That would make one hell of an interesting JRPG for me.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 8:22:25 AM

You poor man. Get FFXHD to have a sense of what we all lament losing, and even that one is a step back from earlier entries.

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dmiitrie
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 3:15:24 AM
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If they gave us something akin to DA:O, I'd give it a try. Looking back, XII wasnt too far off from that And although I'll readily admit that I hated it at the time, after Origins, I'd be willing to own up to it if I turned out to be mistaken (provided I could play it with a mouse/keyboard).

That being said, I'd be as shocked as if I'd woken up with my face sown to the carpet if they even gave us that much. I really don't think my faith in SE, as a dev, could be any lower than it is right now. In fact, I'd bet my last dollar that SE would make XV be somehow connected to the XIII series before they put out a game that longtime fans of the franchise would enough.

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Vivi_Gamer
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 3:24:00 AM

That was my problem with Final Fantasy XII it felt closer to traditional western RPG's with it's setting and MMO gameplay than areal Final Fantasy.

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Vivi_Gamer
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 3:42:00 AM
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What do I expect from a Final Fantasy XV - quite simply to be a console seller. Final Fantasy has really been the driving forcing of my interest in gaming ever since I played VII. Each game was so varied but still excelled on a perfect sense of adventure and charm only a game like Square could deliver for me. I still regard Final Fantwasy VII, VIII & IX as my favourite games of all time.

So when it comes to my expectations, even after this Lightning Returns garbage, I still expect big things from S-E. This to me should be the biggest selling point of the Playstation 4. I can except changes within the series, series do need room to breathe and evlolve but I want a true JRPG experience. I want them to reveal a new huge fantasy world I can explore. Deep and compelling characters who I can get attached to and share their motives for their quest. Is a World Map essential? No but I still want their to be a world to explore. I don't mind if it is even in a sense like 'X' and there is a one way road to progress, if the story is absorbing enough I shouldn't even notice.

Then there is the gameplay. I can accept the ATB is gone. But I look at games like The Last Story and Xenoblade which seem to handle it pretty well. Delivering a battle system you can move around but not be slow like Dragon Age or Final Fantasy XII. I still liked XIII's gameplay despite the flaws. But I do not want it to turn into a poor mans action game like this Lightning Rises.

I have been playing Wii recently to get the JRPG experience the PS3 has failed to deliver for the majority of this gen. I found Xenoblade Chronicles to be absolutely outstanding, it had heart, it had scale, it has an intense exciting battle system, a wonderful score and a story that develops at a solid rate through out. I have to say, at the moment, I would rather play the next Xenoblade (Which they've announced) on the Wii-U than a Final Fantasy title which plays out like an action spin off. Final Fantasy used to be the dominant franchise not just in JRPG's but on the PS1 console in general. But how the mighty have fallen and to have to look elsewhere for that JRPG experience is a real shame.

Should we except Final Fantasy Versus XIII as Final Fantasy XV... It's a game which has been teased for roughly 7 years. It still looks good from the clip we saw 2 years ago... and I still would like to play it but... I want a new Final Fantasy. Even though it is very different to Final Fantasy XIII, I still want something new. I never did like Final Fantasy numerals to be of a franchise themselves and if anything I always respected how each numeral offer a a completely new experience but surrounding some solid RPG traits. S-E had better deliver this E3 or they could lose me as a customer to S-E and the PS4 for good.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 8:25:54 AM

aye mate

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Heartless Angel
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 3:48:26 AM
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I expect it to have a very long development cycle. Teased every few years with promises that they want to deliver a full final fantasy experience and become vaporware once the next generation comes rolling in.

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___________
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 5:53:26 AM
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id expect them to come on stage and announce the announcement of when the announcement will be made.
then finally when the dam thing does get announced they will show a very short undetailed trailer which will be claimed as in engine, when its CGI.
then they wont say boo for 4+ years, except yes, yes, its still coming.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 6:22:11 AM
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The horrific business decisions from SE of late have made me not care about ANY of their announcements anymore. Lightning Returns was the final straw.

The big announcement at E3 should be one of the following. If it is not, I will boycott SE until they kick out the current CEO and bring in someone competant:

- Final Fantasy VS XIII will be a PS3 and PS4 launch title, with a holiday or early 2014 release date.

- Final Fantasy XIV will be free to play and launch October on PS3.

- Final Fantasy VII reboot will be a PS3 and Vita cross play exclusive, to be released holiday 2014.

- Kingdom Hearts 3 trailer exclusive ti PS4 with a holiday 2014 release window.

- PS4 and Vita cross play sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics. (Small downloadable game even!!)

- Parasite Eve RPG heavy prequel for PS4.

- DO NOT announce FF XV until FF Vs XIII and FF XIV have definite release dates!!!!


Honestly, Square Enix have completely lost touch with their fans and I will no longer support them. Until they get their act together, I will simply skip over their E3 part when replaying the video.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 10:26:03 AM
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What do I expect? A bunch of disappointed fans.

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Ultima
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 11:23:47 AM
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With one exception (I got my Wii for Smash Bros.), every system I've bought since the SNES has been for either Street Fighter or Final Fantasy. And had I waited a year, I would have technically gotten my SNES for both SF and FF as well, but that's another story.

But Square has been abysmal on console this generation. I'm not sure if it was the exoticness of the hardware, the increase in development cost, general mismanagement, or some combination thereof, but ever since the PS3 debuted, Square has been virtually non-existant on console. They had really good output on handhelds though, so I can't write them off completely. We know they CAN still make good games, but whether they can muster up the resources to make one for an HD console that doesn't take a decade is questionable.

I have no expectations for FFXV. Personally, I'm hoping Square takes a good hard look at what Monolithsoft did with Xenoblade and their upcoming Xeno game (since I'll bet money that the new Xeno game will come out before FFXV) and see how much of them they can borrow/steal/ripoff. After all, Xenoblade's system is, at its core, an advancement of XII's, which is the direction I think FF needs to go in. XIII went in the complete opposite direction of XII and I think was a huge step backwards. I wouldn't mind completely turn-based like FFX but I doubt we'll see that again. I don't think it's necessarily bad, since there are ways to "hide" ATB systems to make them appear more realtime (Crisis Core, for example) without devolving into full-fledged action RPGs. Not that Action RPGs are bad, but I do prefer FF to have ATB-type stuff. FFXIII went too far with the speed and the twitch stuff (I should NOT have to spend the first 20 hours playing a game looking only at meters and numbers, not what my characters are actually doing) and I hope to never see that again (note: I haven't played FFXIII-2).

In addition, I'd KILL for a Final Fantasy with mech combat a la Xenogears. We only got a scaled down bastardized version of that in FFVI, and I've wanted to see mechs given a proper return ever since.

Also, I hope that any future FF (indeed, any good RPG, period) comes out for Vita in addition to PS3 or PS4 version, because playing it on Vita is likely the only way I'll get to play it.

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Hynad
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 12:04:42 PM
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Kitase leading: A shiny and flashy journey through a corridor filled with cut-scenes every 3 minutes of battling.

Ito (FF VI-IX-XII) leading: A story nicely told through the rather non-linear exploration of a well put-together world, with a great emphasize on a clever battle system.

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Ultima
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 1:46:03 PM

Hynad:

Hey now. FFX was still awesome. :)

And IX's battle system was anything but "clever".

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Underdog15
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 9:27:40 PM

Actually, I thought IX was very good for each character being unique with their own job and learning passive and active abilities through equipment.

One thing with FF's though... I would have liked to see more split-party action. (IX did this for the first 2 discs, really) Split the part up and force me to properly balance everyone... I always hated having bench players.

VI did it well with special events and the final dungeon... VII only did it with the final battle (almost)... VIII did in the final dungeon... IX did in a way KIND of because you couldn't make your party until disc 3 (or close to). X was nice in that everyone was a part of the same party. And XII could sub in and out.

I just wish there was more opportunity to keep everyone active.

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Hynad
Thursday, March 07, 2013 @ 1:03:14 AM

Ultima: Actually, X was a let down to me. I felt it was boring. Up until Auron takes Tidus into Sin at the beginning, I thought the game's universe had a lot of promises. But after that intro part, it was a series of let-downs and untouched potential.

Plus, the game was very restricting when it comes to exploration, compared to what came before, and I never enjoyed blitzball. Story between Tidus and Yuna was sweet, as was Sin and Tidus, but the rest felt like filler. Especially Seymour.

I enjoyed the battle system though. Having all party members at the ready was a nice breath of change. But... attacking with a sport ball... Come-on.

I didn't really like the world's setting either. I prefer when the series is a mix of medieval + technology over what we got in X.

Mostly forgettable.

I will note though that I never understood the complaints about the laughing scene. It was cringe worthy, yes, because it was forced. But that is exactly what it was supposed to be: forced.

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Ultima
Thursday, March 07, 2013 @ 8:45:29 AM

Underdog:

The ability learning system was fine. The problem was the restrictions in place compared to the previous two FFs (and its sucessive two). No -truly- useful customnization options (mostly defensive abilities, almost no offensive options), no multi-hit attacks of any kind, and stuff that used to be good (Counter, status ailments) were massively toned down to the point of being useless. The whole system felt very "locked down" compared to the freedom of V-VIII, especially VII. It's like Square went out of their way to make sure that nothing in the game was broken or even too good, and the result is that the combat is the most straightforward and boring it's been since FFIV.

Hynad:

To me, FFX is like FFI, in that it has a lot of small flaws, but the game as a whole is much better than the sum of its parts. The lack of exploration was a let down, I agree, but I'm more of a combat guy anyway, and the combat was topnotch (ridiculousness of having a blitzball as a weapon aside). I also like the characters a lot (especially love Yuna, lousy voice acting aside; character-wise, she's the strongest FF female ever). Seymour was a waste of an antagonist, though. He was definitely a sideshow.

And once you got into it, Blitzball is hands down the best mini-game in any FF. Hell, I think it would qualify for best mini-game in any game, period.

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 07, 2013 @ 5:20:39 PM

At least you couldn't beat the game by making everyone just hit "attack" with the occasional "cure". Never been a fan of everyone being able to do everything. I personally think the tank/DD/support type systems are the most well rounded as opposed to everyone being able to do anything. So much so that in those other FF's, I impose classes on each character anyways. And bringin' back the 4 character party? Yes please.

Doesn't get more straightforward than that.

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Ultima
Thursday, March 07, 2013 @ 10:48:12 PM

(Side note: My previous post should say FFX is like FFVI, not FFI, but for some reason I can't edit posts right now).

Underdog:

> At least you couldn't beat the game by making everyone just hit "attack" with the occasional "cure".

FFX was pretty easy, but you could do that in almost every FF depending on what you did, including IX. IX just switched "hit attack" with "hit character's best attack" (i.e. Thievery, Shock, Dragon Crest, throwing Wing Edges, Madeen, etc).

> Never been a fan of everyone being able to do everything. I personally think the tank/DD/support type systems are the most well rounded as opposed to everyone being able to do anything. So much so that in those other FF's, I impose classes on each character anyways.

I agree with this. I prefer character classes, but I thought FFX did a good job of balancing character classes for the majority of the game, then letting you do whatever you wanted come end game. I like to take my RPG combat systems to the limit, and FFX had good pacing when it came to breaking things. I think a job system like FFV or, better yet, FFTactics, is the best application of this: You can theoretically create clones, but it's usually not in your best interest to do so except maybe at the very endof the game.

However, while FFIX's character classes were fine, what each class could do was very limited and boring. With -very- few exceptions, EVERYTHING was neutered in that game.

> And bringin' back the 4 character party? Yes please.

I agree with this too. I love the larger party games. But FFIX didn't do anything for me. In addition, why were the battles so goddamn SLOOOOOOW, even with the fastest speed setting and Auto-Haste on everyone?

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 4:45:36 PM
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...that it wonuldn't release until 2017-2018 after years of teases and rumors of cancellation, and even then it's deemed mediocre at best by reviewers.

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homura
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 6:56:38 PM
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I expect that it's going to have an advance type of gambit system, the team behind XII is also the team in XV I think. It still have that Japanese style of story telling told in beautiful cinematics.

I also expects that some will say it's not FF anymore because of the new battle system, over dramatic scenes,blah, blah, blah.

OT:
Kara's return has taken me by surprise. Woohoo!
Kara and Ceasar's story is sweet.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, March 06, 2013 @ 9:28:24 PM

You basically reached the last good moment in the game. :(

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Fane1024
Thursday, March 07, 2013 @ 5:44:55 PM

Please give spoiler warnings.

Given how much after release you are playing WKC2, I'm surprised you aren't more considerate of those who might play a game after you do.

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homura
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 6:35:19 PM

Fane,

That's why I said return, not so specific. And that's why I didn't mention the title of the game. Just enough for those who played and finished the game to know what I'm talking about.

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