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Kojima On PS4: "It's The Logical Evolution Of The Platform"

It's always interesting to know what some of the industry's leading designers think of next generation hardware.

Hideo Kojima said he was "too busy" to sit down and watch the PlayStation Meeting, which is of course when Sony officially unveiled the PlayStation 4. But after Edge described the new console, Kojima wasn't surprised.

"Of course, I know what the hardware is, but I want to see how other companies are using it. First of all, I think that’s great, but it’s nothing special; you could see it coming. It’s the logical evolution of the platform and I think it has to head in that direction, hearing what you said is not surprising."

Kojima added that the fresh social aspects and the new "multi-device" direction is the "way to go" but at the same time, this doesn't automatically equate to success. Ultimately, he said that what will sell the machine will be the games; and we quote: "

"What will really determine whether or not it sells is what titles will be available for the platform."

Yep, we've been saying that forever. A video game console without great games is nothing but a really fancy (and really expensive) paperweight. All those extra additions and new features are nice to have, but nobody is buying the PS4 for those bonuses alone. Because that's precisely what they are- bonuses. The software is the determining factor and always has been.

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, hideo kojima, next generation

3/8/2013 9:38:55 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (26 posts)

clockwyzebkny
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 10:19:17 PM
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He doesnt seem too excited Based on his reaction, i wonder if ground zeroes will only be available for current consoles

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shadowpal2
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 10:37:59 PM
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I cannot emphasize how much I agree with each of the words spoken.

He's exactly spot on. I was seriously no where near surprised when the PS4 came out and I saw the specs. It's only "logical" or natural to make it easier for developers to develop games for the system because in the end that's all that matters to a game console: GAMES.

Get as fancy as you like with a game console, but even then it'll be outdated within 6 months to a year to what you can do with a PC.

The whole multidevice thing is smart in that it helps the user really feel connected to their console at all times. But if you really want to feel "connected" to your console - the only thing doing that will be the games.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 10:44:36 PM

Not to mention this "share" button and its features are a way for them to advertise without spending a dime on it. If my epic kill is suddenly all over the net and on the network then boom, there's free exposure for the game and console. This makes sense in a world where people often haven't even heard of Uncharted yet.

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 11:17:22 PM

Agreed. The PS4 could have had a Flux Capacitor in it and if the XBox 720 didn't, the PS4's multiplatform games would have been no different.

Being how we are doing this same thing NOW, what is the point?

The PS4 will make things easier and more affordable for developers all the while giving us better experiences then the PS3 is doing now.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 10:42:27 PM
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No problem there, MGS may be going multiplat but the system will boast the best exclusives no matter what.

Koji, my man, be more excited. Then say something about Ogre.

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Metal Head
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 10:43:04 PM
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I'm with Kojima san and highlander that PS4 is not to be excited for, but Sony can't continue to lose money.

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 11:10:20 PM

I for one am excited because no matter how you slice it. the PS4 will give us better games.

You can't go wrong with better games.

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Beamboom
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 2:24:10 AM

I believe you misread Kojima here, MH. He says this change of architecture was predictable - the natural evolution - there's nothing special about this decision, nothing to be surprised about cause it was the only logical direction to go.

This guy is a professional and relates to this from a professional point of view, leaving emotional outbursts up to the end users; us gamers and fan boys. :)

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maxpontiac
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 10:15:33 AM

Emotional outbursts! LOL!

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Underdog15
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 11:41:39 AM

That's not really what Kojima is saying.

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Beamboom
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 2:05:41 PM

@Max,
well, yeah... You know, like I do further down here. ;)

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Ignitus
Monday, March 11, 2013 @ 2:54:24 PM

Like Maxpontiac, I'm excited too. The PS4 will give us way better games than the PS3 did. The multiplats will be better this time around and with Sony's first party studios taking advantage of PS4's easier development enviroment we will see even better games in shorter periods of time.

Who knows, maybe the PS4 era will be like the PS1 era where developers like Square could release very good games one after another. This time around the problem will be on the creative/arts side instead of strugling with the hardware. (Some PS3 games, like FF Versus and The Last Guardian are still are no show after 7 years).

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Wrote
Friday, March 08, 2013 @ 11:20:26 PM
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Since all future platforms will be pretty similar I wonder if mgs4 will look better then mgs5 and ground zeros since kojima really pushed the ps3 for 4.

Currently playing mgs3 again and I thought 4 was my favorite but 3 really makes a strong argument.

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Beamboom
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 2:53:32 AM

Do you really, seriously believe that a PS3 would outperform a successor made almost ten years later if they "really pushed it"? And what makes you think developers can't push a x86-based machine?

Whatever Sony did to market the Cell, they sure as hell did an *amazing* job with it.


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Wrote
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 9:27:36 AM

I admit I was more talking about GZ and it being on the 360. As of now its not slated for ps4 or even PC yet, tho both are likely. Also due to its more open world nature.. even though I'm not as hardcore of a kojima fan as a lot of people, i m selfish and want his games exclusive to PlayStation.

One way or the other kojima will make amazing looking games, and without saying a word I'm getting ground zeros and its sequel. And already the ps4 has enough games for me to warrant a d1p.

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Hynad
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 6:36:07 AM
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They already have at least Killzone SF, Watch Dogs, Destiny, Knack, Infamous: Second Son, The Witness, Diablo III and Driveclub scheduled for launch. And I'm sure there'll be plenty more announced for its launch, or launch window, at E3.

That's already a great launch in my book and a console sold to me.

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Underdog15
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 11:42:39 AM

Wonder how many of those will be delayed....

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Beamboom
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 2:18:31 PM

I agree Hynad - and furthermore I seriously believe the biggest titles and surprises are yet to be unveiled... At E3.


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___________
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 7:19:09 AM
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straight out of the horses mouth, "nothing special".
wish he would announce project ogre as a PC exclusive, id be really interesting and exciting to see what he could do with proper 2013 technology!
if he can do MGS4 with the ps3, hot dam i cant wait to see what he can do with 32GB DDR3 RAM, 3.8GHz hex core CPU and a 6GB Nvidia GTX TITAN!

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Beamboom
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 9:11:25 AM

"proper technology" - Jesus F'ing christ, that spec you operate with there complete with power, controller, cabinet and a decent motherboard to do this setup any justice would land at TEN TIMES what this console is estimated to cost.
The CPU you suggest is the price of 2.5 consoles!
F*ck, just the graphics card alone is more than TWICE the price of the entire console! Why don't you just as well suggest FOUR of those cards chained up in SLI while you're at it?

I am really, really fed up with these PC fanboy rants around here now. It's enough, already.
Shut Up. This is nothing but spreading FUD about the PS4. Get over it. Sony has decided how the next console will be. You either buy it or you don't. But we've heard you now. We got the message.

Go somewhere else and do your name-dropping about how you define "proper technology". We got it. We've heard you. Your calculators perform better than the next PS. Yes yes. Your lap-top is laughing at the next PS. Yes, yes. We got the message. You guys got insanely awesome hardware and there's no end what you got to spend on it. Good grief how phat your PC stuff is. Oh wow! Wish I were you.
Now stuff it. STFU.

It is just plain RIDICULOUS.
There will NEVER be a console released with nothing but ultra-high end maxed-out bleeding edge PC components costing the same as two-three months pay for a regular worker after tax. Never has, never will!
It did not happen with the PS3, did not happen with the PS2 and by God I can guarantee you it will not happen with the PS5 either.


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maxpontiac
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 10:26:20 AM

As much as you have complained about "$ony" this, and "$ony" that, why are you wanting even more expensive hardware Mr ______________ ??

When Sony announces the PS4 price, I can imagine you'll post the unfairness of the pricing! Woah is me as it were.

Beamboom is right. The PC fanboy rants are getting old and I suggest that IF the PS4 "isn't the droid...err...console you're looking for", move on or stop complaining.

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Underdog15
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 11:45:08 AM

The dude clearly has a form of Autism. And not the rainman kind.

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Hynad
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 3:20:32 PM

No wonder you don't have a nickname. You got to hide who you are as much as possible when all your inputs are as retarded as this.

Maybe a trip to Walmart is overdue for you. They say they have brains on sale there. Sure they're the cheap kinds, but in your case, it will still be an improvement over your current state.

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xenris
Saturday, March 09, 2013 @ 10:50:45 PM

He just hates everything it seems. I mean, most everything the only two games I can think of that he liked is Darksiders 1 and The Witcher 2, but he complained about aspects of TW2 and wasn't sure if they were real(he said there was too much side questing).

Anyway, its true PCs will always be able to outperform consoles if you pump thousands of dollars into them it really isnt required to make good games.

People could continue making great games on the PS3 for another 10 years if they grew some balls and took some risks.

I have seen enough amazing indy games that aren't graphic intensive at all so at this point I think the technology is good enough for people to just get really creative.

PS4 while not super powerful is to my understanding more powerful than the PS3 yet easier and cheaper to make games for, so that is really all we need next gen.

Maybe in a decade they will make everything photo realistic and VR, but for now the PS4 and high end PCs are more than enough. We don't need this monster NASA grade 10k computer you speak of to pump out good games.

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Beamboom
Sunday, March 10, 2013 @ 6:05:37 AM

I like underline. Really, I do. He's very bipolar, at least his opinions are, but he's part of the jungle here at PSXE. He's that weird little thing that adds to the mix. Like some spice that you only add in very small doses to get your dish right. :)

I am just so utterly fed up with the PS4 haters comparing the PS4 with specs that are so insanely much more expensive that it loses all relevance - and then try to pretend like Sony *could* have made a console like that.

It's like complaining over a new BMW in the 3-series by saying it can't beat a McLaren F1 in a street race. Well... *duh*. Where do we start tearing that logic apart. At the price? The production cost? The intended purpose? The target market? Just... Where?

Cause it's not like Underline is the only one using the spec above. Highlander recently used almost the exact same spec in a couple of his comments, and others too have referred to similar equipment in their eagerness to try to point out how hard the PS4 suck.
It's actually quite symptomatic that the anti PS4 people have to go to *such* extremes to construct validity to their points.

I mean, sure, compare the PS4 with a PC that would cost *twice* the amount. That's fair. After all, the hardware drops in price over time and the consoles are subsidised by the software sales. It's one reason why console games are more expensive. So please, everyone, do that. Compare it with a PC twice the console price and I shall pay attention.

But don't come and compare it with a setup that would cause Sony to not earn a dime the next ten years, or force them to raise the price of the games five-fold. That is just flat out *stupid*.


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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, March 10, 2013 @ 7:39:51 PM
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share with Kojima, not too excited about PS4 either, I feel PS3 has a lot to finish and in fact, not too excited about most PS3 games either as gaming became more of a business show case rather than a hobby with simple fun..upgrading new hardware is now more like a must-do process rather than necessary...only very few games with the developer got the right things in their mind are able to deliver this simple fun nowadays; the rest, I view them all like HOllywood movie now just in it for business, for a purpose of profit which is contrary to fun and magic..gaming has become a hobby for realism, for a show of complex life matters and for eye-candy competition. that was not the purpose for me to sign up for this hobby some 30 years ago and I am still that same boy just want simple fun, and most games these days fail to deliver this purpose....

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