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Square Enix Survey: They Really Want Final Fantasy Info

In some ways, this survey is a good sign. But only if you choose to be wildly optimistic...

Publisher Square Enix is currently running a survey designed to help them better understand their target audience and what that audience wants.

See, it's great that they're trying to learn...it's sad that they don't already know. Well, they haven't known for years so maybe they're trying to get back on track. Most of the questions try to determine the company's demographic and there's also one really interesting question:

"What one game would you most want Square Enix to make in the future?"

And it's not multiple choice, either; you can write in whatever you want. Considering their track record of making new games (bear in mind they don't actually make great titles like Tomb Raider and Deus Ex), I'm guessing a lot of people will say, "Final Fantasy VII Remake." You know, a real remake for PS4.

There are also several more questions revolving around the Final Fantasy franchise. You should check it out; I urge all long-time followers of the series to take the survey because it's extremely detailed...

Tags: square enix, square enix games, square enix survey

3/8/2015 10:05:36 PM Ben Dutka

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xenris
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 10:46:39 PM
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I would love another Vagrant Story, or Threads of Fate game. Those I think would work in todays market. Another series that would be cool to see revived is Brave Fencer Musashi.

They have so many cool franchises that they could work on!

A new Soul Reaver game would be dope as heck too, I used that as my choice for what game I wanted them to make.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:19:51 PM

Have you checked out the video/pictures of the canceled Soul Rever game?

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shaytoon
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 1:54:03 AM

vagrant story!!

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 6:06:00 AM

I couldn't get into Vagrant Story. Just being stuck in that cave for so long felt so bland and then for a moment it looked like I was about to get out of the gave, the game made you sneak around the back of a town only to force you into another underground section. Beyond that I was done.

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Sol
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 10:06:36 AM

Legacy of Kain: Dead Sun had a lot of potential. It really did...

And I'm with Xenris on Musashi. Those were fun games.

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xenris
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:32:45 AM

Holy cow I watched a video on Dead sun and my lord why did that get canceled!

That looked really cool.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 1:50:56 PM

You'd think after three years they would have released it.

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cLoudou
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:18:25 PM
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LMAO, they're asking if you'd be interested in buying the XIII series on STEAM. Hell no!

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:20:40 PM

Just to spite them I made sure I gave it the good old Piratebay treatment.

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Underdog15
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:39:00 PM

I liked how they asked why. That helps. I also like how they asked which FF games I played. Only ones I didn't check were Lightning Returns and Theatrhythm. I would play the latter if I had the right system, though.

In anything else they should know, I basically just said I play Final Fantasy for Final Fantasy. I also love Kingdom Hearts, but I have KH for that. It's important to me that they allow FF to retain it's own identity. In closing, I said they should just look at the sales decline across the FFXIII trilogy, saying I very much doubt I'm the only one who thinks that way.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:05:27 AM

The XIII trilogy was a tremendous failure in every way. Sadly I think they've continued the trend of attempting to cater to the mass market and may have found the right balance of blah. Welcome to Final Fantasy XV, an open-world action game.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:22:27 PM
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Parasite Eve, please. I love the original and feel like it could work as a remake.

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Jawknee
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:30:04 AM

YES!!!!!!!!

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Shauneepeak
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 5:27:45 AM

I am pretty sure it got a remake for the PSP didn't it?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:35:30 PM

It's actually a sequel to a sequel and it wasn't very good. Plus I'm tired of the game series I like getting the portable treatment.

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Jawknee
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:35:35 PM

No. It did not. That was a new entry and it want a very good one.

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CHAOS THEORY X
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:45:55 PM
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I thought they did this survey thing already not that long ago.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 08, 2015 @ 11:56:05 PM
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My response to question #24

I think Final Fantasy was an amazing franchise. By far the greatest gaming series ever made. I looked forward to each new installment and put hundreds of hours into each game. I've played them all multiple times through the years. I glady bought the X/X-2 Remaster and enjoyed it immensely. Sadly XIII was a tremendous let down for me. It had the same amazing production value I have expected from a Final Fantasy title but it lacked a lot of what makes a Final Fantasy game so much fun. I understand each new installment tries to be different from the last but I felt with XIII it was no longer just about being different from XII or the other Final Fantasy games before. XIII didn't feel like a Final Fantasy title. It lacked so many things that I liked from previous games in the series. It's also the only Final Fantasy game I've never wanted to play again after finishing it. I did finish it but honestly, only because I hoped at some point it would start feeling like Final Fantasy to me.

I gave XIII-2 a chance but after 20 hours I stopped playing. I've only tried the demo for Lightning Returns. I'm expecting the same situation with XV. I can only control one character and the gameplay has become nothing more than an action game with various weapons to choose from? Please go back to what made Final Fantasy such a great series. I've been a loyal fan for over 25 years, a majority of my life, and it's sad that my favorite gaming series has lost its identity.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 6:04:33 AM

See, I still find it interesting you state it doesn't 'Feel' line an FF experience. That is how I felt with XII. It felt more closer to a Dragon Age game or Tactics Ogre than Final Fantasy. I still believe this is due to the MMO gameplay adopted from XI and the focus on a political story over a character driven one.

Last edited by Vivi_Gamer on 3/9/2015 6:06:24 AM

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Underdog15
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 10:44:55 AM

"...and the focus on a political story over a character driven one."

^This part is exactly what I didn't like about XII. I actually didn't mind the gameplay as it was still turnbased and I could still control everyone. Could definitely do more with character positioning tactics to group together for AOE cures or spread out to avoid AOE attacks, etc... or for skills like "cover" to be used only when standing in front of another ally... that sort of thing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:42:14 AM

mine was kinda similar, with a lot on action versus RPG and turn based mechanic and genre.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:25:55 PM

Vivi_Gamer,

I totally understand if XII didn't feel like a FF title to you (in certain areas) but overall it was still Final Fantasy to me. I found the gameplay rewarding, I loved doing the hunts, and the environment was fun to explore. Whereas XIII and its sequels were so incredibly off the beaten path there was nothing there to remind me I was playing a Final Fantasy game.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 10, 2015 @ 9:19:17 PM

Beautiful...

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Rachet_JC_FTW
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:12:00 AM
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well its a good step in the right direction wether it stays on that course is another question entirely based on the recent track record

happy gaming

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BlinkBoy
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:34:40 AM
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Since the home console situation in Japan is almost dead, it will indeed be interesting to see if FFXV and maybe FFXVI will be the swan songs for FF on the "big TVs" and consoles.

As a FF fan it is not nice to see this trend, but I have to accept the reality and look for JRPGs elsewhere.

I think the best Square ever made was Xenogears, I would be very surprise if that was to come back to life.

A game with like a million references from religions, movies, and various philosophers.
Xenogears being the ancestor to games like Xenosaga and Xenoblade, made by same developers now Monolith Soft.
They sort of took the Soft part of Square with them, haha.

I have been playing some FFXIV:AAR lately. It is a very good game, and I am no MMO fanatic. It is still fun to ride and battle next to your Chocobo.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 10, 2015 @ 9:30:13 PM

Blinkboy

Monolith Soft WAS the SOFT in Square Soft. The Xeno series have been the most well conducted passionate stories in RPG's that I have ever played.

Square didn't stiff with them to see the full Xenogears story to fruition. Namco Bandai abandoned the Xenosaga series before the original vision was completed and then sold 80% of Monolith Soft to Nintendo.

I don't have a Wii but I watched the entire Xenoblade Chronicles story on Youtube and you can tell that it was done by the master minds from Monolith Soft. There are a developer that I am intent on following!

I don't normally buy a console for just one game but I believe I have just found a reason to purchase a Wii U. Xenoblade Chronicles X.

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:42:28 AM
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I really hope they take this info to heart, but I have a hard time imagining that they don't know what they need to do already. I'm not going to buy FFXV outright like I would have in the past, I'll wait for the reviews. I will however, be pre-ordering Persona 5 as soon as it becomes available.

I'm so disappointed with Final Fantasy...

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:43:06 AM

I need to change my avatar...

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:05:01 PM

Please don't. Pic a visual representation of your online self and stick to it. It's bad enough World doesn't stick with the Ninja-in-Parking lot picture.

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Advent Child
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:37:04 AM
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I told them exactly what I think they are doing wrong. I really hope they listen.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:40:05 AM

me 2

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Banky A
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:48:47 AM
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Make a game that is cool and stuff like that. A game that is enjoyable to play and has deep, rewarding gameplay. A game that I would like to buy.

I would want to buy a game like that, ya' know? Ya feel me.

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Shauneepeak
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 5:23:58 AM
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Well I actually took my time to fill all that out. What I would love would be a spiritual successor to Chrono: Trigger Chrono: Cross was good but didn't really live up to Trigger.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 6:08:50 AM
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My answer to #24:
To me the Final Fantasy series is the pinnacle of the JRPG market. The games excel in presenting an experience of adventure - which I believe is key to an RPG. I am always excited to see what new iteration of Final Fantasy comes next, part of the appeal of the series is that with each new numeral you get a new experience - New world, characters, engaging storyline and battle mechanics. It's what has kept the series so interesting through out the years in comparison to other gaming series like Pokemon or Dragon Quest... which to me, feel sort of the same each title.

I think there is a lot to be said about the series within recent years though. I'd arguably say the peak within the Final Fantasy series was from VI - X, each game was just so different from one another but kept the core feeling of a Final Fantasy game intact. I feel since Square merged with Enix that most titles released from the company show signs of a rocky development. The first being Final Fantasy XII (I am not counting sequels which I will come to later), I went into the game with the best intentions of seeking a Final Fantasy experience, however, I left feeling utterly crushed. Reason being this did not feel like a typical FF experience, it felt closer to Dragon Age or the Tactics Ogre series - which I believe is due to key contributors to the project. The game lacked the spirit of adventure and focused on a political story over a character driven one. This to me was just unbearable, along with the poor pacing of the game. All I remember from my experience of XII was running through landscape after landscape pleading for some actual story progression - Admittedly things got interesting when you entered the Bahumat fortress, but by then it was just too late.

When Final Fantasy XIII arrived, I was skeptical, however, I really embraced the game and enjoyed it. While I understand the game has very mixed reception I thought it was fantastic. It brought back a character driven story to the main focus and the pacing of the narrative was much better. Much like many have complained about though this is mostly due to the limiting scope of the in-game world. I think it is important to find the right balance of exploration and pacing. VI - X never had this problem for me. While you couldn't explore the world straight away in most games there was plenty of exploration to do within the towns and fun side-quests to keep you busy before you felt like tackling more of the adventure. On a side note, rather than just having generic fetch quests (Lightning Returns) or Monster Hunts (XII/XIII) I'd rather have mini-games. By this I mean fun games which don't just use the same in game combat mechanics. Something like 'Chocobo Hot & Cold' in Final Fantasy IX or 'Blitzball' in Final Fantasy X. These features made the game have a much huger sense of diversity within the gameplay and much more engaging in general. I don't want to see future Final Fantasy instalments just become like Elder Scrolls or Fallout where you can barely tell the difference between Main-Quest & Side-Quest. If anything I want the structure to flow in the form of an adventure say it be like Final Fantasy X, where you are on a pilgrimage and the game flows through the structure of the narrative.

Lastly, I'd just like to mention about sequels. To this day I still believe there has not been a decent Final Fantasy sequel:
X/2 - Was completely silly in tone, ruined Yuna as a character and felt like a huge diversion in general just to get to the happy ending X never needed.
XIII-2 - It had Caius, a much needed antagonist to the series, but the convolution of time travel and weak lead character (Serah) made it challenging to bear.
Lightning Returns - Contradicts the spirit of XIII-1 which is a story about Lightning becoming humane. She is now this over-the-top Goddess which to me just felt too much.
Admittedly, I did enjoy Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core which was an expansion on VII's back story to a lead character in the shadows, Zack. I also enjoyed Advent Children as fun movie, but Dirge of Cerberus single-handedly ruined the VII series as a franchise, which a horrid story and new characters. I don't mean to sound discouraging here, I just feel that sequels are not within the best interest of the series and I think that a new numeral for each production is a much better way for your team to work.

Then there is the up coming Final Fantasy XV. We all know of the state of limbo the project has been in for quite some time. However, since Tabata has took the helm the project has been progression at a fantastic rate. S-E has been showing of content and making the game feel present within the gaming community again. Honestly, I have loved everything I have seen of the project since it has been deemed the fifteenth numeral. The notion of a road trip within the structure of the gameplay is really the grounding for what seems like a fantastic adventure. The characters seem diverse in personality from one another and the spirit of camaraderie seems high. I am very eager to play the demo with the upcoming Final Fantasy: Type-0 HD (Which I would also like to thank S-E for remastering on the PS4).

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Banky A
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 6:32:57 AM

Man you really hated FFXII that much?

I was completely enamored by its charm. Fresh Final Fantasy it was. Held the spirit of adventure solely with the use of Final Fantasy Theme as the intro shows us a shiny Ivalice.

Knights of the government, the leading man, lore, Esper stories, Airships, sky pirates, Jar Jar Binks, Moogles, wild chocobos, black markets, open world exploration with towns, guilds, hunts...

Man I can just feeeeel it now.
I know LimitedV and Ben also hold XII dear like me.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 6:51:15 AM

Sadly yes. I was all so eager to embrace Final Fantasy XII, but it really let me down. I didn't feel any sense of adventure. The story progression was so absent that I often honestly forgot the point of the adventure. Balthier was the games saving grace, not only did he have charisma but he had an interesting back story and personal conflict with Cid. None of the other characters really had that. Ashe had hints of interest but it was once again backseated to the plot which just had no presence.

As for the world, none of the environments interested me because nothing happened when you went to them. You just passed them by. Where take a case in a previous FF say IX - When you reach Dali, you simply go there to rest but you soon find out that Vivi has been stolen and you get involved within the peril which is happening beneath the peaceful village charm. Nothing like that happened in XII. I'd reach a new town pleading the game to give me some interesting event or story progressing and it would rarely happening. The only time I can remember is when you finish a temple, you're taken captive in an airship.

As for the Espers, none of them resembled the FF classics I loved like Ifrit, Shiva, Odin. I mean games like VIII swapped Ramuh for Quezacotl but in general most of the summons were the same stapled within the series. XII ditched them completely and I simply didn't care for them. Even the moogles looked wrong, but that would be going into more petty details.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:13:15 AM

To clarify, I hold only the gameplay of FFXII dear. I really loved it; it actually seemed like a logical progression of the turn-based structure; from rigidity to fluidity.

I did NOT, however, like the story. In fact, I found it to be the least appealing of all the FF stories, even less so than FFXIII. On the flip side, the ending was actually great...weird that I didn't care a fig about the story until the climactic cinema.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:39:51 AM

XII gameplay was the opposite of normal FF gameplay.

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xenris
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:54:46 AM

I loved almost everything about FF12 even the story. I have a soft spot for political stories and it was different for a Final Fantasy to do that so it felt fresh. It would have been a home run if all the characters were more developed.

Balthier, Basch and Ashe were the only decently developed characters IMO.

On the flip side, I liked the idea of FF13 the underlying story the Fal'cie etc, but the characters made me want to slam my head off of a wall. It was just trope after trope after trope of anime characters and lightning OMG we have a bad a$$ over here, seriously every bit of dialogue coming out of her mouth made me want to duct tape her face shut.

Then the sequels decided to make her Jesus, cool.

I did really enjoy Crisis Core, but mostly because I totally had a man crush on what little we knew of Zack from FF7.

I think FF15 is going to be great, even if it has a more action approach, Tabata seems really invested in making it "feel" like an old school Final Fantasy. Which he must be referring to the sense of exploration, discovery, progression etc and not the turn based combat.

One week to try out the demo!

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 1:58:45 PM

xenris,

I feel the same way, both about XII and XIII. XIII had an intriguing story that initially kept me wanting to play but the dialogue and the characters were poorly written. XII was interesting to me because there wasn't a central hero but rather a collection of equal characters. I also loved the gameplay in XII. People can call it MMO style all they want but it had incredible depth and allowed for turn-based gameplay in an interesting way. I really don't get the hate for XII's gameplay.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:05:48 PM

XIII had an enormous amount of potential.

Too bad so much of the complexity in the story was relegated to the archives you'd need to read.

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xenris
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:25:51 PM

LV

Well, there was a way to break it and I ended up stumbling upon a very cheap way of beating things with this Soul eater sword and I basically just berserked Basch and Balthier and had Vaan heal them when needed and buff them more. I beat all the monster hunts like this and the hidden bosses, although some the strategy almost failed me.

BUT to say that there wasn't complexity is silly, there was so much going on there. I mean to be fair every FF game there is a super cheap set up that makes everything super easy at least FF7 8 and 9 all had this and I think 10 as well.

I agree with the characters though I liked how there wasn't really a main character it was refreshing at the time.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 10:13:00 AM
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I'm gonna blow this thing up

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 11:52:51 AM
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Done. I hope 90% of people said basically the same thing.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 12:19:26 PM

I hope so too. I'm sure our answers were similar in many ways.

I focused on the angle of identity. I don't need a Kingdom Hearts approach to FF because I have Kingdom Hearts for that. I don't need an Elder Scrolls approach either, because I have Elder Scrolls. And so on...

Final Fantasy needs to retain it's own unique identity because it is its own game. No need to become something else. I pointed out the sales decline across the XIII trilogy to make my case.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 1:54:32 PM

Thankfully these type of surveys are overwhelmingly taken by diehard fans. And while I've met a few that didn't dislike XIII nearly as much as me not a single one cared for its two sequels or the action-heavy gameplay in XV.

Lets be honest though. SE doesn't care what loyal fans want. They're no better than Capcom.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 1:54:38 PM
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This is what I wrote:

I think between VI and X, Square hit the jackpot with an excellent recipe. Not only were visuals of the highest calibre, but the gameplay was always in depth, you had control over the entire strategy and could use any character, it was turn-based, and MOST IMPORTANTLY... it had it's OWN identity.

Recently, since the merger with Enix, it has lost its unique identity by trying to become more like other popular games. They are still fairly decent games, but they lack the prestige they once had. The biggest issue with the franchise now is that it simply doesn't know what it is anymore. Is it an action game? Is it open world sandbox? Is it all about one character or many? Is it even an RPG?

FFXIV: ARR is successful because it is its own title. It's doesn't try to be something it isn't, and it's true to its identity. The gameplay gels because it matches the lore of the universe perfectly. It's multiplayer, so you don't control more than one character, but within its own context, it makes sense.

Look at the sales decline of FFXIII trilogy from one title to the next. As you can see, the further it gets from any semblance of a story driven progression, and the further it gets from what Final Fantasy is traditionally known for, the more poorly it does. The biggest reason, as far as I can tell, is that it is creating an even smaller niche market than it had before. Now, old fans at large aren't as enamored with it, and it doesn't change radically enough to claim many new fans. It's living between two different worlds, and now, you are only catering to a select few who love it. Of course the select few defend it vehemently! You'd have to be 100% into it to like it. There's no room for middle ground.

Think about it... what about FFVII is so popular that the strategy guide sold more than all of Lightning Returns across all platforms? Why did your twitter account basically explode when you asked if people actually wanted a remake?

That kind of feeling is what you need to go for. That feeling is what you aren't aiming for anymore. Instead of trying to GUESS at what will make you a lot of money, make a game that people need to experience. If you do that well, the sales will take care of themselves.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 2:21:00 PM

What a horrible decade+ it's been for me as an RPG gamer. When Squaresoft and Enix merged I was at my highest point as a gamer (in terms of the butterflies) in anticipation for the glorious RPG treasures about to be unleashed on me. Dragon Quest VIII and Final Fantasy XII (I know, I know most of you dislike the game) were nothing more than a tease.

I was told I wasn't being fair when I voiced my negative opinions on Versus because it wasn't a main entry in the series. Well now it's XV and I don't see anything to change my initial opinions. It pisses me off that we have this amazing technology that's being wasted on mediocre titles.

How does the worst series in the Final Fantasy franchise get not one but two sequels!?

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Underdog15
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 5:23:35 PM

I`m in the pro-FFXII camp, too brother. Just not the story so much. I`ve played it through maybe 3 times, but never got around to beating it. I think I even took out Gilgamesh one run through.

You know when you get to the point when you just want to finish the game and be done? I just stopped then. Didn't care about the story's ending. :p

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 9:12:30 PM
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LV wins this comment thread.

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Deathb4Dishonor
Monday, March 09, 2015 @ 9:43:13 PM
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I would love a New Grandia game... Those were among some of my favorite RPGs

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flamefury42
Tuesday, March 10, 2015 @ 4:39:56 PM
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I will type an essay in their survey as to why they need to remake Final Fantasy VII. I'm sure I'm not only one that will do this.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 10, 2015 @ 9:46:38 PM
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-LimitedVertigo


It pisses me off that we have this amazing technology that's being wasted on mediocre titles.

How does the worst series in the Final Fantasy franchise get not one but two sequels!?

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