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Let The Inevitable PS4 vs. Xbox One Comparisons Begin

Oh, this holiday season is going to be absolutely epic.

I really can't remember the last time two direct competitors in the video game market released a console in the same year (possibly even in the same month, as could be the case with the PS4 and Xbox One). The new generation is gonna get started with a big ol' bang.

And I'm not here to tell you which system to buy. I'm not going to proclaim the PS4 to be superior just because I write for a PlayStation-oriented website. I'm just interested in seeing the insane console wars that are going to ignite after today. I'm tempted to just sit back with some popcorn for the rest of the year and watch the drama unfold. Adolescent, petty, biased, hostile; sure, it'll be all those things. And unfortunately, it'll all be a little embarrassing, as it always is.

But Sony and Microsoft have given gamers a golden opportunity to debate until they're blue in the face. Based on my brief overview, it seems like the two systems in question are quite similar from a hardware/architectural standpoint. If that's the case, and if the two consoles launch at about the same time, doesn't this mean there's very little incentive to purchase both? It'll all come down to the games, won't it? If the hardware is similar and the features are similar and the price is basically the same, won't the determining factor be the software? Honestly, if that is indeed the case, I'm gonna have to give the edge to the PS4.

But who knows? Microsoft promised "15 exclusives" in the first year, which doesn't sound like a ton but remember, the exclusive is a dying breed. And while Forza Motorsport 5 was the only confirmed exclusive for the Xbox One's launch, don't forget that Gran Turismo 6 will not be on the PS4 this year (although Yamauchi said a PS4 version was possible later). On the other hand, if the PS4 launches with Killzone: Shadow Fall, DriveClub, inFamous: Second Son and Knack, isn't that a decent lineup? And you have to expect more games to be announced at E3. Well, more games for both the PS4 and Xbox One, of course.

So yeah, it's going to be nuts. That's all I'll say.

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, xbox 720, xbox one, next generation consoles

5/21/2013 3:43:24 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (79 posts)

Beamboom
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:05:15 PM
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Oh man this will be FUN. I was seriously worried - yes almost expected - that they had at least *one* thing that made me go "outch, ok so *that* is cool".

I am left with one impression of the Xbox One: One patchwork of a box. Just the fact that they will insert *three* systems on that box screams patchwork to me.

The way I see it there is no discussion here. PS4 is the way to go. ALL Sony need to do from here on, is to focus on the games. Get it out there. Push the titles. Make the world know.
The rest of the battle is already won.


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Kryten1029a
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:09:48 PM

They layered Windows 3.0 on top of DOS, so it's not the first time they've had multiple processes going on under the hood.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:16:15 PM

Windows 3.x was just a graphical wrapper around DOS.
That's one thing, but this is different - if I understood correctly it's two parallel, individual systems that uses a third system to bridge/wrap the two. I mean... *wtf*?

This box will probably offer a lot of interconnectivity with Windows phones, Win8, Surface and other MS stuff - and this is *exactly* what I was talking about some months ago, that MS might go that route instead of focusing on being a games machine.

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:26:58 PM

You're right beamboom. It does seem like a patchbox with those 3 OS, let alone extensive RAM usage. At least consumers will have the option to leave the Xbox One on idle so that it can update itself overnight or something.

I was also expecting that "1" feature that I'd wish Sony would have, but apparently that wasn't the case for me either.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:33:41 PM

Uhhhhh.

The PS3 already does automatic updates. Lol. and it has been confirmed that the whole automatic update thing will be a lot easier with the PS4....

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tlpn99
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:12:16 PM
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Will you be buying one Ben though that's the question ?

I am undecided at the moment. I'll wait for E3 and more reveals etc.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:28:55 PM

No, I don't think I'll be buying one.

But if there really are enough exclusives I want, I might.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:34:33 PM

15 exclusives in year 1.

8 of them are new IPs.

This = they finally realised their current IP library sucks, so they made new ones. hahaha.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:12:25 PM
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It will be fun to watch the mayhem. 13 of those exclusives will be Kinect games I bet. Xbox One has positioned itself as the living room console but not the must have gaming console. I think with free PSN, the best exclusives, better hardware, plenty of hype, and a focus on gaming the PS4 is going to cripple Xone after a brief heavyweight fight out of the gate.

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matt99
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:30:32 PM

ya the number of exclusives doesn't matter, it matters what the games are and with kinect being mandatory I would guess that quite a few of those games will be geared towards the casual/kinect using crowd and not the hardcore gamer.

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berserk
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:38:19 PM

I think more like 10 kinect/arcade exclusive ,I hope they were at least smart enougt for an exclusive AAA per 2/4 month .

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kraygen
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:51:41 PM

I had the same thought pretty much. Forza, a new fable(kinect version likely) and a bunch of kinect games.

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telly
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 9:47:43 AM

Here's the thing, though: Who's going to drop probably $400-500 on this supposed all-in-one box when it doesn't do a whole lot that your current devices don't already do? You can skype when you watch TV? 1) who has sat there watching TV and thought "man, I sure do wish I could shrink this program I'm watching and Skype at the same time! 2) Pretty much every modern TV offers it already. Mine does, and I've never used it once.

I'm still processing all this but my takeaway at the moment is XBox aspires to be this all encompassing "solution" to disparate entertainment options, but just doesn't pull it off.

Worth noting they clearly were focused on hardware this week and will do the games at E3. But right now, there's just no comparison. PS4's lineup already looks great, the hardware is being celebrated by developers of every size and shape, the third party games are going to (probably) be identical across both platforms, and you know Sony's internal studios are going to keep making excellent exclusive games. I mean, at the moment, it's just not even a contest, right?

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MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:14:13 PM
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To summarize the Xbox One conference Farrah Abraham announced a Halo TV series.

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The X Factor 9
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:14:14 PM
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There is no comparison.

What does Xbox One do that's special? Motion gestures to track my movements and advances that allow me to talk to my TV?

Forza is the one exclusive worth mentioning? A Halo TV show? Exclusive early access to horribly overpriced DLC?

They made Kinect and game installs mandatory?

I'm sorry, what games are coming out for it that aren't coming out on PS4? That annual $50 Xbox LiveGold account for the next 10 years looks great too.

I've taken sides. Let's get it on!

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telly
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 9:49:54 AM

I'm not so sure they're content to "only" get $50 a year anymore, either. The strong rumor is they are going to a monthly fee in the $10-15 range. Compare that to PS Plus, which offers TONS of excellent free games, sales on many more, and the value comparison is so skewed as to be absurd. Microsoft still has time to explain/justify their plans, but it really does not look good at ALL right now.

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:14:31 PM
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Sony's stocks speaks itself. I wouldn't exactly say it's over yet, as E3 has yet to come, but there were certainly more negatives than positives from today's Xbox ONE reveal, as oppose to the PlayStation Meeting. If you're a hardcore Xbox fan that is really worried, brace yourself for E3 and hope those 15 exclusives (8 new) will change the tide.

I want to be as unbias as possible in this matter, but it's just clear right now that Sony has the upper hand. For all we know, MS may be more successful since they're catering hard to the mass audience, which will lead to bigger potential sales. However, it's not like Sony isn't an Entertainment machine too.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:18:55 PM

"there were certainly more negatives than positives from today's Xbox ONE reveal, as oppose to the PlayStation Meeting"

Exactly. This is a precise observation.
So when will the MS fanboys start screaming and accusing the press of being biased against Microsoft, sitting comfortably in Sonys "deep pockets"? I would assume that's already started?

Oh man how the tables are turned now. :D

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:22:35 PM

Btw Ben, Kaz mentioned that the PS4 version of GT may very well be GT7, not GT6. Just a minor note. He also said that it may not be that long of a wait, but that's after players have really played out GT6. In short, I'll probably say at least late 2014 to see any GT PS4. That said, Sony has DriveClub to keep racing enthusiasts interested at launch, and it looks to be the game to be comparing to Forza Motorsports 5, which I swear looked like PGR.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:24:22 PM
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I can't wait for the GT6 (on the PS3) comparisons to FM5 (on the Xbox One)...

PDI is going to turn some heads.

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:28:31 PM

Unfair one at that, but I'm looking forward to it. How do you think DriveClub will hold up though?

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HazySun
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 3:18:43 PM

You are aware that many of the standard cars will still not have a cockpit view right? If The Forza boys are going to take the piss out of anything it will be that!

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:26:25 PM
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15 exclusives? Ill believe it when I see it. Thats a lot and to be honest MS doesnt have that support. Most developers are third party and unless they are talking about exclusive dlc then I highly doubt any of the big devs will be creating exclusives for them. Second Sony has most the talent wrapped up anyways, so whos going to be creating these games? Are they xboxlive titles? If so that 15 exclusives statement is going to get slammed.

Anyways should be interesting, I dont know much about the Xbox one so I cant compare anything right now. That 15 exclusives stuck out to me though.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:33:17 PM
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I think the fate here of Xbox One will resolve pretty fast. First year fast. Once crap starts circulating how much better multi-plats perform on the PS4 and the ever lucrative value of free online play. I think Sony is going to bring the hurt this gen.

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:55:37 PM

Yup. It's only inevitable that Sony is the much better gaming machine spec wise. With the much better GDDR5 in terms of speed, and much more RAM dedicated to gaming, I see the Xbox once again holding back the potential of the generation with Multi-platform. If anyone is not aware, RAM is a pretty big deal and the advantage is clearly PS4, flatout. If not multi-platform, definitely look forward to exclusives for the best defining experience.

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frostface
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:37:30 PM
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The market for this new console is very much for the US. All the TV functionality is US only but something that wasn't mentioned during the show but was confirmed after was that you'll not be able to avail of the TV services for the XBOX ONE without buying a separate receiver box to plug into the back of it.

There's a topic started over in the forums if anyone would like to have their say there...

http://www.psxextremeforums.com/gaming-discussion/13561-xbox-one.html#post187465

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:41:46 PM

This is what I was thinking too. Here in australia, all those TV services aren't really a big thing, so the X-One won't really do that much for us over here.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:54:33 PM

It is now going around the internets that the TV features are US only at this point.

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Lord carlos
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:47:19 PM
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This years E3 is gonna rock!
Still though so many PS3 games to get this year,won't be able to afford a PS4 until next year at the earliest.

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:57:19 PM

Definitely. I'll be enjoying GT6 for quiet a bit, along with Ni No Kuni soon, and whenever MGS5 arrives. I'm definitely in no rush for the PS4, unless a GT title pops up.

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Lord carlos
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 6:29:01 PM

I got resi evil revelations,The last of us.GTA5,Beyond:two souls,Batman Arkham origins,GT6,MGS Ground Zeroes and MGS 5 with the possibility of The last guardian and FFXIII Vs to keep me going and bankrupt me at the same time :)

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Dukemz_UK
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:55:04 PM
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I laughed so hard at the poor name, the gobbledee-gook 3 OS, the gimmicky hand gesture stuff, the talking to the box, the 1980's VHS recorder box design, the forced kinect, the mandatory installs of games on your HD, the paying Microsoft a FEE whenever u try to install a used disc ....

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:02:06 PM

VHS > Xbox One

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 9:56:57 PM

The hard drive can't be replaced by the user as well. This was confirmed by IGN, but you can also use an external hard drives.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:59:17 PM

The new kinect basically means you have to play any games in a well lit, quiet room.

The kinect features just don't work in my mind. What if your house is noisy? Voice recognition isn't advanced enough to understand things perfectly 100% of the time, especially in noisy environments.

I like to play games in the dark sometimes, so that I can get fully immersed in them.

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cLoudou
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:55:23 PM
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Pfft, I don't know about you guys but I'll be playing with my dogs in COD, losers. D1P.

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daus26
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 4:58:19 PM

Yeah, not sure what's up with the focus on the dogs.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:56:10 PM

I think its a play on getting 'connected' to your in game characters, and dogs are cool, so like, what better character to get attached to than a dog. People generally love the animals in movies, a lot more than their human counterparts.

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KidPresentable
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:09:59 PM
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Man, when that dog sacrifices itself for me in CoD: Ghosts, I won't lie, I'm gonnatear up. That Remedy game, Quantum Break looks very interesting, All in all, it was a decent show just like Sony's, nothing making me want to break my back to buy them day one. My biggest gripe is another system without any backwards compatibility. Lame. I think Sony may head down this mandatory install route too. Guess that's why EA had no reason to keep the online pass going. I wonder when Sony is going to get real, stop playing the 'please love us' game, and tell us about stuff like installs and if it will cost any money to use the full functionality of PSN.

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Dukemz_UK
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:30:14 PM

"decent show" ?? Seriously?? Even the die-hard xbox fans are expressing their utter disappointment on all the major gaming sites.

The best thing I take from the xbox conference is that for me the next gen will be a single console choice. Guess which console?

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Lord carlos
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 6:37:12 PM

PS4 gots 8 gig gddr5 ram so no need to install unless they wanna be all drm d!cks like ms,ps plus will get you the same stuff on PS4,the free online gaming will still be there.

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KidPresentable
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 7:04:32 PM

Yes I though it was decent. Not impressed, but it was expected. Microsoft has never been shy or coy about their vision for their system is beyond simply being a gaming device. So what they showed was in line with that. I don't mind being able to use it for other things than sitting alone in a room with a controller, giggling to myself about Nathan Drake's latest quip. I was going to own every next gen system anyway. Already have the Wii U. And with the Xbox One sx differentiating itself the way it has, out becomes even more valuable to my entertainment hub. PS4, like the PS, PS2, and PS3, before it will always be my go to system for every game. Even with the PS3 getting a few bad ports, I bought them for the 3 anyway. Just for my PS3 alone, I own 400 retail games, (another reason I'm not excited for the next gen yet, my backlog is nearly insurmountable now). But I like the tech Ms showed and I hope it works as well as it did on stage. Am I particularly happy with all the rules that goes along with it? No, but I will get over it if the uniformity serves a better purpose. I hope it does.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:44:35 PM

It's funny how you were so rough on Sony in your comment, when MS' conference was 10x worse.

There was nothing decent about the MS show, it was boring. I can't believe I got up at 3am just to find out what it's called, what it looks like, and that the PS4 beats the sh*t out of it.

MS never spoke about any hardware specifics, which tells us all the rumors are true about RAM type and CPU specs. which means that games will ultimately run better on the PS4.

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Apocrita
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:15:29 PM
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For starters, a little about myself.

I don't consider myself in any way to be an xbot, but that said, my 360 to PS3 game ratio is 6 to 1. Those uneven numbers are a controller specific response (and a bit of a bad impression of Sony over the last few years). I have big hands and the DS2 controller isn't comfortable for me, not at all. I actually use a Power-A gamepad for my PS3, it isn't great, but it solves the hand cramping problems.

I've owned a PS1, PS2, Xbox, 360 and PS3, and in that order. I still own all of them actually, I can't part with my old plastic memories. Units or games...I'm sentimental like that :-)

So, on to the topic.

I was really impressed with Sony's entire PS4 presentation from beginning to end. The PS4 looks amazing, but it's so much more that's been accomplished to win someone like me over. They've seemingly adjusted their entire stance since the inception of the PS3 to one that is more “humble” (maybe a bad choice of terms but for me at least, it's fitting) and a LOT more gamer-focused. I was one of those people that was not impressed with the whole PS3 inception, public relations, etc...you know the stories and gripes. Yet, I still love my PS3 and own 28 games for it.

So, the Xbox One, is dead on arrival for me. I can't imagine a time when I will relinquish the amount of ownership/control/privacy that Microsoft is demanding with their new machine. They've taken DRM to an entirely new level (from my personal perspective) and expect that old players like me will accept it...phhhttt! They can call the limitations they've placed on their new device whatever they like, but from where I sit and from what I've gathered from today's revelations, it's just an insidious form of “New-speak” for content control and user restriction, better put and repeated, DRM.

There won't be any vacillation on my part about what new console to purchase. Today's news shifted me firmly into camp Sony. I'm relieved actually, I can't afford two new consoles this round anyway.

That's a long first post!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:29:41 PM

Sure, it's a long first post, but we get a lot of that around here so you'll fit right in. ;) Welcome!

You owned your consoles in the same order I did (PS1, PS2, Xbox 360 and PS3), although my history goes back to Atari. I've always been a multi-console owner but this coming generation might be the first where I just stick with one. You seem to be thinking the same thing. :)

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Apocrita
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:37:22 PM

Thanks!

And thanks again for the help I got from ya' when the registration process wasn't working for me.

I (dating myself here) got my first console, an Atari 2600 on day one when I was 11 or 12. That was it until the PS1 blew me away.

And yes. It'll be the PS4 only for me this generation. I am almost in shock at the parade of bad decisions that MS has made with its new offering. I shouldn't be surprised, but alas, I am. They made the decision sooooo easy this round.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:11:15 PM

Welcome here.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 2:11:00 AM

Hey welcome, Apocrita!
I very much agree with your summary. I've said the same, Sony seem more humble and definitely fully focused on making a good *gaming* console.

This really is a "best case scenario" for Sony. And I am so relieved that we find one solid gaming console without too much non-gaming related nonsense.

I've never owned an Xbox but back when I chose console I was not too sure what to go for. I ended up with the PS3 just because of the Blu-ray drive.

This time around there really are no doubts on what console to go for. And that feels good. An inner peace. :)

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telly
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 9:56:01 AM

Welcome, and agree very much with your views. The majority of us here don't hate Xbox at all, and in fact many of us have enjoyed the 360 very much (me included.) But you've described it perfectly: I too am simply shocked by what I saw/didn't see yesterday. There's nothing compelling about what Microsoft showed yesterday, while Sony made a strong impression for PS4 right out of the gate. I can't fathom a games lineup from Microsoft that would make me reconsider my distaste for XBox One right now.

And I agree with you, thank GOODNESS I need to be buy two consoles (at least out of the gate!)

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Apocrita
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 7:05:29 PM

Thanks all, for the kind welcome.

I've been a silent reader for a long time. I couldn't begin to list all the useful and helpful information I've gathered from my time here.

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txgamer
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:24:09 PM
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Sony won my money. Day one purchase no doubt about it now.

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556pineapple
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:28:41 PM
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The only thing that concerns me right now is that Xbox retains (timed) exclusivity for CoD: Ghost DLC. Like it or not, that is a really powerful franchise, and the following largely plays it on Xbox. That might be incentive enough for people to choose the One over the 4.

For me, it pretty much comes down to the games, in which case, Sony is leading for the time being. E3, may change that, but it may not. The biggest thing I don't like about One is the fact it restricts used games. If this is the case, does that mean you'll have to pay extra money just to rent a game? If so, that's totally out of the question for me. Unless publishers release "rental exclusive editions" that bypass that necessity, it's going to completely kill traditional game rentals.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:47:45 PM

Lets hope they never find out that multiplats will play better on the PS4. I personally like the fact that most of the COD fanbase plays on the Xbox, because they are 90% immature twats!

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Ershin
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 5:41:41 PM
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I haven't seen much discussion about it, but has anyone considered that it might be 15 "timed exclusives?" Just like the DLC for Call of Duty, etc.... They keep emphasizing "in the first year." Just a thought on how they might come up with that many.

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McClane
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 6:05:34 PM
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Considering whtat Micro$haft presented with the Xbox One, I'll quote someone else from the IGN forums:

"Oh, ye newly adopted of the Playstation family, fret not! We will love and accept you as one of our own!"

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DarthNemesis
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 6:23:50 PM
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It looks like a great media device, but a made gaming device. Pass ...again. I will get the Wii u when it drops in price though.

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RICHIECOQUI
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 6:41:47 PM
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Xbox 1 looks like an old vcr! i'll stick with sony

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Axe99
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 6:48:45 PM
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I'm not convinced the hardware is quite as similar as the comparisons reveal so far - my money is that while it might seem similar at first glance, below the surface the PS4 has been designed with gaming in mind, while the Xbox One is a multi-function device that also does gaming. We know almost nothing about the GPU (and if the Xbox's GPU was impressive, they'd have mentioned it).

Either way, the lack of interest in anything beyond mass-market games has me similarly lacking interest in Microsoft's next showing.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:53:43 PM

Well the rumors all seem to be true, which means the X-One uses GDDR3 ram, with 32MB ESRAM.

The processor seems to be the same as the PS4 however, 8 core Jaguar based chipset. Although the RAM is the thing that will make the difference, it really IS a game changer.

Plus MS has 3 operating systems in place at once, that will draw a decent amount of RAM. The PS4 doesn't have this limitation.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 7:29:49 PM
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I just got back from the cinema to see this event, I didn't watch it live but I saw the whole thing. The problem I have is that it was purely focused on making this a machine that intergrates with the televison than the console itself. I have to say I dont watch much television, so many of the features don'lt appeal to me, like that fantasy sports feature, i've never heard of ito it really water off a ducks back.

The games announced tonight were plain, That new game by remedy was poorly presented, I dont know if it is a Heavy Rain immitation or if it has live action parts recorded for it - Which is why I am highly against live action advertising for video games, it is false advertising at its peak.

Kinect, I am not happy to have a device with a camera transmitting visual data of me to a device which is connected online. I know out generation is foolishly open to putting every detail of their live online, I am not one of them, I pressume Kinect is not mandatory because it is off putting and initial sale prices for the console would be sky high.

The title, utterly silly, Now how do I reffer to the first XBOX that was release - the original XBOX? I undeerstand what they are doing wih the title but it doesnt speak progression to me like the PS'4' does.

One feature I did find interesting was how well the system can run all its devices. It is superb how you can instantly switch form gamings to movies, to the market place i presume. I cannot express how much I hate the new Playstation Store, it is slowwer to start up than the original version and laggy as hell. So I do give credit to Microsoft for that and keeping the accounts and scores of achievements.

I didn't know of the PS4 event tomorrow, so I am looking forward to that now, which is the first time I can say so for the nextr. So while nothing really interested me over the presentation today, it does feel like the next gen is getting closer.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:51:06 PM

Kinect was confirmed to be included in every box, and yeah, it NEEDS to be hooked up for the console to work.

I completely agree with you. How many times now have people cracked open Apple iOS or Android, and found out that the platforms secretly transmit geographic location data to their servers? Lol.

One of these days someone will crack open the Xbox servers and find a live feed of every single X-One users lounge room.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 8:16:52 PM
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Those 15 exclusives I'm sure 10 are gonna be Kinect games :p

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Darwin1967
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 8:24:47 PM
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As someone who uses Gamefly, almost exclusively, for my game play and purchases I would like to thank Microsoft for clearing things up and ultimately making my mind up nearly 6 months ahead of time. I think MS is treading into some very tricky waters and intentionally cleaving a huge segment of their gaming population. There are very few who want to be 'always on' and as for used games, c'mon...for those of us who typically have dual systems (we have two ps3's) like hell I want to be penalized for just wanting to purchase 'one' game for the household. Unfortunately, MS it would seem, is taking business advice from bobby kotex, again.

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ulsterscot
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 10:31:41 PM
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weren't dogs introduced with WAW?

So Ghost has gone from being British SAS trooper Simon Riley to a US special forces unit. hmmm
- cant wait to see multiplayer footage.

Pretty weak xbox1 reveal gameswise - they really needed either a new Halo or Gears - showing off games available on other platforms is a bit sad

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:07:29 PM
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So lets see.

X-One:
Jaguar 8core CPU
-8GB GDDR3 RAM + 32MB ESRAM
-3 Operating Systems
-Mandatory game installs
-500GB non-replaceable HDD
-Kinect must always be hooked up
-15 exclusives in year one
-Hasn't been confirmed, but all clues point to it needing to be online all the time.
-Pay a fee for used games
-Box looks like an 80's VCR
-Only showed 3 games at announcement
-A huge amount of TV capabilities
-Main feature is blurred at the moment, it seems to be TV though? With gaming just being a gimmick.
-Not one single game developer has come out to say anything about the consoles specs or how impressed they are.

PS4:
-Jaguar 8core CPU
-8GB GDDR5 RAM
-1 Operating system
-HDD unconfirmed, however one can assume it will be replaceable like the PS3.
-Not confirmed if PS Eye needs to be connected
-Not online-always
-Showed several interesting (exclusive) games at announcement
-Box not revealed yet. but the teaser shown yesterday ALREADY looks better than the X-One
-Already has dozens of succesful exclusives
-Was built FOR gamers, and developers.
-Main feature is gaming, with added gimmicks.
-A vast majority of the industries top game developers came out to congratulate Sony on the PS4, and how impressed and happy they were with it.

This has shown me that I never should have worried about the X-One.

Please, add your points too.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:26:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

LMAO. Best. Video. Ever.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:28:26 PM

The disparity in RAM speed means a lot actually. It tells more about the internal hardware design than one would think. Whether people like it or not the future of computing is harnessing the GPU. Our university is already looking at an instructor to bring in who will teach courses in parrallel computing, more specifically CUDA-based software development. People may not want to give up backwards compatibility and cost advantages of an x86 but leveraging the GPU's very fast processors is the next step. The PS4 is locked and loaded to help this happen. The DDR5 is fundamentally part of this process.
The Xbox One may very well be a PC in a closed box, like nearly literally. I guess I can take solace in knowing that my current desktop will be able to handle the next-gen multiplats just fine, better even.

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Akuma07
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:58:17 PM

One interesting thing I am no reading on Kotaku, is that when you purchase a new game, you must register that game to your Xbox Live account, very much the same as you would for PC games these days.

That game is linked to your Xbox Live account, when you take the game to a friends house you can log into your account and play it for free, but if you want to play it on any other acocunts, they must pay the full price of the game again.

The most intriguing thing about it, is that this whole registration process obviously requires internet access, so what happens if your internet is down for a week? Not only can you play games, but you can't even play the brand new game you just bought that.

EDIT: A quote from the Kotaku article. "It sits on your hard drive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.
I have Microsofts permission to play the game I just paid full price for. Yeah.... F**K THAT. That sounds so dodgey.

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PharaohJR
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:41:18 PM
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watched the segment few hours after feed.... from my view i give credit when due only thing can say bout X1 it looks like the favorable MEDIA DEVICE at this time not game console. only part i said koo was transition threw features instantly.

i see X1 booming in U.S. for social reasons & TV features... only thing that interest me on tv these days is animal planet, toons, automotive & sports.... final breakdown is E3.

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kraygen
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 @ 11:56:51 PM
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I already have a tv remote and an internet browser, neither of which will be on all the time watching me.
No thanks MS, unless they can wow me later with some amazing games that are xbox exclusive I'll pass.

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Fabi
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:59:38 AM
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What I'm afraid of is the PS4 implementing something similar with used games.

If that is so, then there will be a lot of games I don't play, simply because I wont take any chance on them, seeing as I wont be able to sell them or give them away if I don't like them.

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___________
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 6:32:14 AM
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so far next gen is looking like current gen, ie both systems are very similar only separated in exclusives.
M$ REALLY suffered this gen because they dont have as many first party studios as $ony, and that made it impossible to keep up.
BUT that said, 15 exclusives within 1 year of launch?
SWEET!
and 8 of them new IPs even better!

hard to say who is where ATM so little has been announced, but so far im certainly excited and intrigued!

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Axe99
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 7:14:40 PM

Ye gads, ye be needing to look ever so slightly below the surface. Thar be some significant (if not openly obvious to the uninformed observer, interface aside) approaches in interface, hardware , online play, publishing and approach to the cloud between the two systems. Anyone can talk numbers with new IPs and exclusive games, I'll believe MS when I see it.

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___________
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 11:51:46 AM

right, so the interface is different and thats reason to not buy a system.
ye gads, are people THAT stupid!?
might as well say im not buying this system because its an uneven number in length and thats bad luck!
who cares what the interface is like as long as its easy to use and supplies the features required, which it will.

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ricksterj
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 12:19:06 PM
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With NO backwards compatibility on EITHER side.....at the VERY least I'll watch and WAIT (a LONG WHILE). At WORST, I'll sit them out thank you.

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Ather
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 1:25:24 PM
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If everything's the same, it might come down to not the games, but what do you want your system to do? Do you want it controlling your TV and such like Microsoft wants you to want? Or not? Those who do will flock for XBOX One. Those who don't will go for PS4. I doubt exclusives will work if you don't have the money for both of them. Will you really give up Microsoft's dream because you really like one or two Sony properties?

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Cravit8
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 2:57:23 PM
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You guys should be careful joking about VHS > Xbox One and how the big black box is ugly; you know that's biased and you KNOW you haven't seen the PS4.

Think about the fact maybe bigger is better. The 3.5 HDDs all perform better and are more stable; if portability isn't the goal with the PS4 design, I'm fine with a bigger unti.

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VictorDeLeon
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 3:32:41 PM
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to be brief :
Microsoft (and his partners) will be spying on you all the time with Kinect (listening to your tastes, knowing who is in your room to show ads based on their tastes), you'll HAVE TO swing your arms to navigate the menus, used games are a thing of the past, a ne w Forza, some kind of "exclusivity" with EA sports and COD (most likely timed DLC), a TV Halo series ...
Why would we be interested at all? 15 eclusives in the first year? marketing lies, we'll see 2 new games at E3 + 3 Kinect kids games, and the 10 in the newt months ... but they'll never come.

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Foxo
Friday, May 24, 2013 @ 7:24:40 PM
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Xbox One has Blu Ray drive. Interesting. Sony has to be laughing all the way to the bank with licensing fees they get to collect from MS for that. Unless MS found a way backwards engineer Sony's designs. Anybody have any information regarding the Blu Ray drive in the Xbox?

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