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So, Will We Actually Get A World Map In The FFVII Remake?

I have some questions, Square Enix. I'm sure the other fans do, too.

You say the Final Fantasy VII Remake simply "won't be the same game" as the original classic. We get that.

You can't sell a turn-based RPG with random encounters in this market. Not a big-budget AAA title, at any rate. With the industry dominated by casual and twitch gamers, the masses simply don't have the patience or attention span for such a format anymore. If you want to appeal to the largest audience possible, it has to be fast and flashy. Yeah, I understand.

However, I'm sure Square Enix understands that this remake is designed specifically for the long-time fans, and perhaps not the casual and twitch gamers. ...well, one would hope they understand this. Either way, we know we're not getting the same type of game, so what exactly will be different? How will it be structured? Will they ditch random encounters? I suppose they could; they're not necessary and they don't really have any impact on the game's quality.

But what about how the world is designed? The entire industry has shifted in the sandbox, open-world direction. How many new games did you see at E3 that weren't open-world? It seems like a rule that if a game has a massive budget behind it, it has to be open-world. Well, FFVII had a world map, which was like "open-world" in those days. I suppose we won't get that again, though, which is really too bad...that might be a traditional RPG staple we wouldn't want to lose.

There are so many ways Square Enix can screw this up. It's just frightening.

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy VII Remake

Tags: final fantasy vii remake, ffvii remake, square enix

6/22/2015 9:28:31 PM Ben Dutka

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xenris
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 10:21:44 PM
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I think they could pretty much copy Ni No Kuni in its world map design and do very well.

They could also use inspiration from its combat as it basically used an ATB battle system but you could freely move around your character.

I would really like it if they did this.

What we will most likely get is a game that is similar to FF15 in terms of world map, and combat that is probably a mix between FF12 and FF15.

I really hope they take a page from Ni no kuni though, that game did really well despite its cutesy graphics. Fans would definitely be all over a game like that, heck FF7 remake is going to sell millions of copies on the name alone so they might as well make it close to what the fans of the original want right?

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Temjin001
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 10:40:15 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if S-E has an ulteriar motive with the game.
Yes it'll appeal to classic vets but they may very well want to draw in a newer gen of gamer, get them to like these characters and then continue making games within it's world with spin off titles. I even sort of doubt they'll keep the VII in the title. They may not want to scare away newcomers.

I almost expect it to have online shared play elements. Where you can invite members to your party and battle and explore the land together.


Edit: They'll pitch the idea of combo player summon spells and trading materia with people.


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Temjin001
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:01:25 PM

They'll also have a pre-order bonus. Lightning costume DLC for Cloud.



... yes I'm going for max down votes

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:32:38 PM

Xenris, I definitely would NOT like the Ni No Kuni inspired battles. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that game a lot, but I really like FFVII's battle design. Materia and all.

I think the battle system is a sacred part of what makes FFVII what it is and shouldn't be dramatically changed.

Personally, I would love it if they -AT MOST- played with more dramatic camera angles, similar to Lost Odyssey.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 9:44:40 AM

I think it would do better as open as FFXII was.

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xenris
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:16:06 AM

@Temjin

that is a fear of mine too. That they are just going to use the name to sucker in old time fans but have the gameplay completely bastardized to suite new gamers tastes.

@SaiyanSempai

I didn't mean they should throw away the materia system. I more was saying that NNKs combat has an Active Time Bar in it just like FF7 only you can move around the battle arena freely.

Personally I think they should keep it the same as the original FF7 only balance and tweak it because you could really exploit the system.

Oh and this isn't a dig at you or anything but, your name...I've practiced Martial Arts for the better part of my like and its spelled Senpai with an N. I also realize that SaiyanSenpai might have been taken :P

@Underdog

I think this would work really well too. They could still have the Active Time Bar but have it so there was no battle screen transition.

At the end of the day we will have to wait and see. Is the combat going to be slightly modified from FF7s or completely different like an Action RPG.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 11:09:48 AM

Temjin since you are going for max downvotes and not getting any I decided to help out.

Spend my thumbs down in good health!

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SaiyanSenpai
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:02:06 PM

@ Xenris
lol, yeah, I know Senpai isn't with an m. Long story short - my wife (who's Japanese) informed me that the drama we watched that used "Sempai" in it's subtitles was incorrect. AFTER I already made a couple usernames out of it.

I might try to change it though while I'm thinking about it. If I can that is.

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Bio
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 10:37:57 PM
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We don't have turn based battles anymore, not because of the dreaded Attention Span Boogeyman, but because developers long ago figured out better ways to manage multiple party members in combat. Turn based battles were a necessary tool forced on developers by limited technology. Those barriers are no longer present, so game design has evolved.

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:17:04 PM

Sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't awesome!

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Bio
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:21:56 PM

Yeah, when done well we got some fun systems to tinker with, no doubt. They could still go with something turn based and have it feel fresh and innovative, IMO, but ATB systems just feel really dated at this point. I wouldn't blame them for going with something different.

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:41:41 PM

Yeah. For as much flak as FFX-2 got, they managed to improve on the ATB system in a meaningful and fun way.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 1:20:15 AM

That's not the whole story. It's also true that the diminishing attention spans of the entire society have resulted in TV and movie camera angles that can't sit in one place for more than three consecutive seconds, and the increasingly frenetic nature of games in general. We can say we don't need cut-scenes anymore, either, but it's just another instance where people simply can't sit through them any longer. Instant gratification syndrome has made an obvious imprint on gaming, as most games from a decade or more ago would be deemed "slow" today. Even the action games.

They can't do turn-based anymore because it wouldn't sell, and not because most would see it as inferior or old-fashioned. It's just because most would find it boring. There are dozens of ways to present the turn-based system, which many developers explored during the PS1 and PS2 generations. Hardly none were pure turn-based; most had some form of real-time element. Just because every last aspect wasn't moving in real-time didn't make the mechanics inferior; in fact, it made them more cerebral and rewarding for certain gamers.

To me, right now, the only thing that feels repetitive and dated is the constant, ceaseless action on display in almost every major genre on the planet. It's all one giant flash and no, it's not entirely because we CAN make that flash now. It's because we have an audience that can't deal with anything slower.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 4:32:12 AM

I don't understand what you guys talk about: There's plenty of turn based games being released and well received also today?
From the Shadowrun series to flagships like Xcom and a ton of indie releases: Highly rated from reviewers and gamers alike, rages high on the sales charts and are much played.


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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 9:45:58 AM

What Beam said. Although, back in the day, a game like Ni No Kuni would have sold much better, I would think, than it did in the modern era.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:04:10 AM

Beamboom: Only on the indie and small-budget scene. And most of those are NOT true turn-based but hybrids. There are almost no new games, even in the indie scene, that feature the old-school turn-based mechanic and world map structure of FFVII.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:21:15 AM

Games like X-COM are turn based strategy games. You're leading a group through a map with obstacles, jockeying for position, using weapons with defined ranges and areas of effect, while enemies do the same.

Old school RPGs are 3-4 party members lining up directly across from 3-4 monsters and taking turns whacking each other.

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xenris
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:27:47 AM

I agree with Ben in the attention span thing, and how tv and movies have really been tailored for low attention spans.

However there are a lot of turn based games on the PC that sell very well, and yes they are true turn based games. However the PC audience is a different market than the console market.

I also agree with Bio in that a lot of gameplay mechanics were created as ways to work around the technology at the time.

However we don't complain about Chess not being updated do we? It was made using the technology they had at the time yet it is still played.

Certain things work, even though the technology allows us to play every game in real time in an open world doesn't mean every game has to do so.

Chess is still played and loved by many, and well crafted Turn based combat systems can exist too.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:39:12 AM

We still play chess the way we do because there isn't a better way to play chess. That won't happen until 2287 when Captain Kirk invents a new kind of 3 dimensional chess on the Enterprise that doesn't suck like current 3D variants, the key difference being it was invented by Captain Kirk.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 3:22:03 PM

"We still play chess the way we do because there isn't a better way to play chess."

This implies that all real-time systems or hybrids are automatically superior to turn-based. That isn't true and has never been true.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 4:24:27 PM

Actually it just means we still play chess the way we do because we haven't found a better way to play chess yet.

Which is probably why I said we still play chess the way we do because there isn't a better way to play chess, instead of "all real-time systems or hybrids are automatically superior to turn-based".

If anything, my comment is an acknowledgement that some forms of turn-based gameplay are inherently superior, that we're still playing this turn based game called chess because it's the best way to play it.

Of course, my closing statement about how Captain Kirk is going to invent 3D chess in 259 years might also have been a clue that my reply wasn't entirely serious.

Strawman arguments are logical fallacies for a reason, Ben.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 9:06:19 PM

Well, of course. You're never wrong.

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xenris
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 @ 12:59:48 AM

Bio we can simulate war and strategy in "better ways" now, so in theory we have found better ways to play chess or at least the essence of what chess is.

I get what you are saying but I don't agree with it or feel it applies to a genre of gameplay essentially going extinct.

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:16:25 PM
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Solution to random encounters is what Bravely Default did - slider for the encounter rate. Want to grind? Slide that sucker up! Want to get to where you're going with minimal hassle? Slide it down.

And stop spitting that "you can't sell a turn-based RPG with random encounters in this market" nonsense. Don't even say it jokingly, SquareEnix might think you're serious.

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SaiyanSenpai
Monday, June 22, 2015 @ 11:23:56 PM
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To the gamers, developers, and publishers who think turn-based mechanics are outdated and don't work - I hope the success of Persona 5, with it's turn based battles, shuts you the hell up and gives you a big enlightened slap across the face.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 12:24:47 AM
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Well, it would save money and be retro cool to just have the same maps only prettier.

Or they could build the whole friggin world.

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Corvo
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 1:51:07 AM
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Remember when Shenmue 3 got its goal in under 24 hours?

I think if that can happen anythings possible. Except FFXV being good. I've lost all hope for it.

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frostface
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 6:38:59 AM
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I'm feeling very underwhelmed by the news for this game.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:06:03 AM

Note: I honestly never read much of anything you write because you don't ever seem to know what you're talking about. I mostly only talk of second-hand knowledge; my brother saying, "yeah, he's an idiot. I don't talk to him anymore because he basically hates everything and has to tell everybody he hates everything."

Is it wrong? Take it up with him.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:27:57 AM

Pretty sure people who actually do read the things Frosty posts here, and have played with him online, or chatted with him on Steam, know your brother is wrong.

Not liking the same things you or your brother like is not the same as hating everything.

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frostface
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:34:42 AM

I actually have a lot of time for your brother. I'm sorry to hear that's how he feels. To be honest, I'd probably have a lot of time for you too but we seem to have a few too many misunderstandings.

Not saying I agree with you much but I do believe that because our only interaction is through written words a lot of it gets taken way out of context too often. Which is kinda sad. But I get where your brother might be coming from. I know exactly what I like in a game and I can be quite critical at times. But if I like a game, I'm equally as vocal. I'd love some time to get you into a party chat on PSN and just shoot the breeze about games. I don't think either of us are representing ourselves very well on here. I know you don't go for that online stuff so I never bothered shooting you a request. But I've played online with your brother for years and we've never once had a falling out. Say Hi to him for me, he's a cool dude.

(Edit: Just seen your post Bio, thanks :) )

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 12:08:58 PM

I played with Frosty once. Seemed like a decent chap to me. I'd play with him more, but we typically play different things.

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frostface
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 12:32:00 PM

Thanks Underdog, let me know next time you're on and we'll party up.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 2:48:35 PM

I'd play online with Frosty more if he weren't so Irish. Is iad muintir na h√Čireann an ceann is measa.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 3:24:09 PM

Bio: Try and think outside the "me" box for a second. Neither me nor my brother GIVE ONE FLYING FU** IF PEOPLE LIKE WHAT WE LIKE.

frostface: I'm simply telling you what he remembers. And it didn't have anything to do with games HE liked, but generally well-received games that you never seemed to like. It was if any game that got a lot of positive attention, you had a problem with.

And honestly, if you're still "meh" on what Sony did this year at E3, then you will ALWAYS be meh, regardless of personal preferences. I'm no Shenmue fan but I can at least acknowledge how huge that Shenmue III announcement was. Why can't you do the same?

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frostface
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 3:47:16 PM

I have nothing against Shenmue, I never played the original games, I don't even know what they're about. I'm also happy for people who are happy that this game is getting made. My point was that people were giving credit to Sony for it when the game has to resort to Kickstarter and will come to other consoles eventually. Even if Sony do chip in a few Bob to get the game off the ground, why are the developers still raising the Kickstarter goal after the response at E3? Just how much is Sony invested in this game? The developers deserve the credit.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 4:16:23 PM

Ben, if you're going to use your brother to call someone an idiot by proxy, while simultaneously admitting you don't read the posts of the person you're insulting, it's fair game to point out the logical faults in that kind of statement. It's not just me saying that, either; you can judge for yourself by the up/down votes in this discussion.

Doing so doesn't mean I'm always thinking about you, because frankly I'd prefer it if you just laid off him, and everyone else you perceive as slighting you, and talked about games like everyone else here.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 4:17:48 PM

The Kickstarter is still going, Frosty, because why fund a game yourself when you can make the fans fund it for you?

Rich People Rule #1 - Never spend your own money if you don't have to.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 4:23:23 PM

No, your obsession with me with me and attempting to turn every last topic on earth into some sort of personal discussion is just plain frightening. You really can't see that you do it constantly? That in every post, even when it has NOTHING to do with you (and most don't), there you are, attempting to turn it against me? If I say anything, anything at all, there you are. Why?

I am allowed to repeat what my brother said, verbatim. Yes, I am. I am also allowed to react to reactions. Everyone ELSE is, as am I. Your attempt to dominate every single thread where I'm talking doesn't go unnoticed. You think downvotes actually come from active members? Really? They're from lurkers who down-vote ANYTHING I post, and most anything regulars say.

I need you to stop stalking me, I really do. I need you to not have your nose in every single thread, when more than half the time, you are never the subject of the conversation. Maybe you didn't notice but everything is just fine around here until YOU start posting. I suppose that's a coincidence, yes? Or, it's your asinine belief that everything is fine because everyone agrees with me, which of course, they don't. They just know how to do it civilly, something you've never learned.

There are people here who can't stand the games I like and vice versa. They make it plain. They're just not colossal a*holes about it. Eh, you know what...never mind. Just try to leave me alone for once. I'm asking nicely.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 4:30:17 PM

What's 'scary', Ben, is that despite me, and Beam and others pointing out repeatedly that I barely even mention you, you act like every post I make is about you. It's like you WANT me to be obsessed with you. Either that or you literally do not bother reading any post that doesn't have anything to do with you, which wouldn't surprise me either.

I'm sorry, dude, but I don't find you nearly interesting enough, one way or the other, to care that much. Pretend all you want but I'm never going to call you up and ask you to play Misty for me, okay? If anything is "frightening" it's your obsession with telling me how obsessed I am with you, only I'm not frightened by it, just bored.

But if you'd like to keep replying to me, and then using my responses to those replies as proof that I'm 'obsessed' with you, go right on ahead.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 6:03:11 PM

Bored? LOL You're on here more than ME and I'm the only one who puts content up at this site. You must have NO life.

And your post history is clear. Would you like me to list it out for you? You usually don't even post if it's not directly addressed to me, or calling me out, or acting like this creepy father figure.

One thing you're going to learn eventually: You are not a mod. You don't hold any sway here. It's not up to you to police me or anyone else, even if that's the role you assumed for yourself in the forum (good job there, by the way; nobody wanted anything to do with you). You're only fine if you've got your little cronies; if everyone ignores you, you can't handle it. You require an audience, which is why you can't help yourself.

But, you must be telling the truth, right? If you're bored, if you have no interest in me, than you can leave me alone, correct? Why don't you give that a try.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 8:46:50 PM

Actually, Ben, I'd LOVE it if you collected and shared my post history here, or anywhere else. When you go looking for them, you'll notice what I and others have been trying to tell you all along - almost none of my posts have anything to do with you.

And for someone who complains about being 'stalked', you sure engage your 'stalker' quite a bit, usually before they say anything to or about you. Of course, you never mention this crap at the start of anything, it's always your way of trying to end conversations; conversations you usually started.

But feel free to post my comment history here. Just make sure you post it all, instead of cherry picking.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 9:13:16 PM

I was talking to frostface here, Bio. Not you. You showed up. Why? I'm almost never - and I mean NEVER - the first to respond to you in the comments. I desperately try to avoid you because you only bring one thing to a community, and that's dissension. As all the communities you've been part of have suffered from. You inevitably address me first because...well, we all know why.

You're bored with me and you're always here. You're the first to make a snide comment if you think I did something wrong. You spent years snickering behind your back in the forums (want to see a collection of THOSE posts?!), pretending you're not doing anything, and now you just do it to my face.

Ever notice how you've never once - can't seem to find one in several hundred posts of yours - agreed with me about anything? That can't be possible. You just choose not to say anything if you agree. If you don't agree, you're at the head of the line, raring to go. There are people here who have appreciated the things I have done. You have appreciated nothing. You bash and mock and yet somehow, you're a bastion of maturity?

Just forget it. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for me, and we both know it. I'll say it one last time: LEAVE ME ALONE.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 9:41:27 PM

Actually I've agreed with you plenty of times. I defended your position on THIS topic in THESE comments sections. Just scroll down to campcat's post, and the reply I posted about 6 hours ago.

Again, you never read or respond to comments unless you've perceived some slight, so of course you never "see" the times when I agree with you.

As for not being here unless you were, I was here years before you were, so either I have amazing foresight, or you have nothing to do with it. I come here to talk about games with people like Frosty and Beam, which is why almost none of my comments have anything to do with you.

I think it's really weird that you constantly engage someone in conversation and when (and only when) the conversation doesn't go the way you want it, you start whining about stalking and such.

Feel free to stop responding to my comments if they bug you. I'll be more than happy to return the favor.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 @ 3:57:05 AM

Wtf, Ben? Dude? What was the point with that first reply? As the site admin, what did you want to achieve by posting that?

You act like every comment on this site is written directly to you. It's time you discover they are not. You set the general topic with your article, but the comments that follows are general expressions of opinion, usually without you in mind at all. I see *nothing* in Frostys post here directed at you. Not a single letter. Nothing that warrants you to pull your family into this and start rambling about what you think about this poster. I mean, seriously dude?

So Frostface is no excited about these news. So f'ing what. I'm not either. I bet there's not a single element in this remake that will make me excited. Time will tell.
But why take that personal? Why start rambling about how your brother feels about him? W.T.F are you on?

Jesus man, your behaviour is borderline psychotic at times - it's like you CRAVE confrontations, if things are calm you just jump into the throat of someone on your hate-list - a list one can easily arrive in, but never leave from.


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squibbfire
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 7:10:23 AM
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OMG open world and sandbox ff7...I neeeedsssss!!! i dont even care if it copies off a star ocean game at this point!

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campat
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 8:42:13 AM
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Ben, I remember a time when I used to really enjoy reading your work on this site. Over the last year or so you seem to do nothing but write articles where you seem to flip back and forth between opinions and views.

For years you have written about a FF VII remake or remaster. SE is doing it. Please don't spend from now till the game is released complaining about it or prognosticating what could go wrong.

WE ARE ALL GETTING A NEW FF VII! Let's see what they do and how they innovate before whining and complaining for the next year or so please.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:05:17 AM

At no point have I "flipped" on any opinion of what a FFVII remake should be.

Seems to me you haven't actually read a thing.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 9:41:08 AM
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A world map like what existed in FFXII would be just as good. I don't feel a need to run on what is effectively a dungeon that turns into a new area when you touch it.

I have no doubt they can expect great sales of this. It already appeals to some of my friends who played it but never the other FF's. And honestly, if they're interested, others must be too.

I mean... heck... the original's strategy guide alone sold well over a million.

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xenris
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:31:29 AM

I mean the game has sold over 10 million copies and that was before it was released on Steam and PS4.

I think FF12s map would work well too, as well as the combat. I think that would be the best balance of keeping it semi turn based, with you actions being limited to the ATB. Otherwise they are going to making it to turn based for some peoples likes, or to action based for other peoples likes.

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telly
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:41:59 AM
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"Well, FFVII had a world map, which was like "open-world" in those days."

This is exactly why I think we can expect this remake to be an "open world" game in the modern sense of the word, based on the classic world map. Think Skyrim or Witcher-style open world graphics, with that level of detail, with all of those secrets hidden all over the place, but the world of FF VII.

I think open world games of today are greatly inspired by the classic "world map" games of previous generations. The next logical step, even.

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Jbumi
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 1:28:32 PM
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I really hope SE keeps it turn based. I think it's come somewhat back into fashion - both Wasteland 2 & Divinity: Original Sin are coming to consoles this year.

Action RPGs are fine, but it's nice to have more cerebral focused gameplay sometimes. Variety is fun - just as I wouldn't want to eat the same thing everyday, I don't want to play the same type of game every time. If all RPGs played the same, why keep shelling out the money - just buy a couple & play them ad nauseam.

I completely agree that the potential to screw this up is in the stratosphere. I can only hope, by the recent examples of FFXIV & FFXV, that they'll do right by us.

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campat
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 2:20:26 PM
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I have read your work repeatedly. Not just on FF but in general. I used to look forward to reading articles with your name. Now, not as much.

Your getting a FF remake. Please don't complain or criticize till it comes out. I appreciate your love of the original and encourage you to replay the original.

SE has finally accommodated fans with a remake of VII. Buddy that's a whole generation or two that has passed since the original. Let's see what they do or how they reinterpret their original.

The point is stop with the negative. I've read your work long enough to know negative when I see it.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 2:50:56 PM

To be fair, present-day Square sucks, and there's about a 77.2% chance that this remake is going to suck. Probably not for the reasons Ben thinks, but he's at least half right to be skeptical.

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robinhood2010
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 3:17:33 PM
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A question yet to be asked and answered....

Which is larger, the current audience that love the original, or a possible audience of new gamers?

My money is on the lovers of the original. Surely then they will appeal to the fans.

If they alienate us all it will pan. New audiences will not be attracted to a game that the older generation have decried as a disgrace.

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campat
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 6:47:50 PM
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Bio, I'm not the biggest fan of SE however I am interested in what they will do with it.

This title is very important to allot of old school gamers and an important title to SE. I'm hoping for some new interpretations and enhancements to the remake. I don't expect a turn based game and for me that's not a deal breaker.

I still rock an original PS and play FF VII from time to time. Heck I'm teaching my son some of the classics.

But times change and hopefully we will see a remake worthy of the title.

I just don't want to read articles for the next year decrying the game before we have any concrete info on the remake and the game play mechanics.

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Bio
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 @ 10:54:57 PM

Didn't see this reply before, my bad. If you hit "Reply" on your original comment, you can reply directly underneath all the previous comments in that thread, fyi :)

I get where you're coming from, and I'd like for it to end up being good, I just think there's reason to be skeptical, and for good or bad I think a lot of outlets are going to be discussing things from a skeptical point of view until we see footage that changes that perspective.

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campat
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 @ 6:49:41 PM

Thanks for the tip on replying Bio. I don't blame anyone for being skeptical about this remake. Quite frankly a bit of skepticism is healthy. What's not is the negativity under the guise of "don't ruin this for me".

If they screw it up that will suck yet that won't change my love of the original.

Kinda like Star Trek into Darkness. That movie was a poor remake of the classic Star Trek Kahn storyline. I watched it, it sucked for me but I still love The Wrath of Kahn!

On a different note, what the heck is up with you and Ben?

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Legendary Minja
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 @ 4:00:07 PM
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I'm sorry but this is the first time I'm actually wishing I could post a meme in my comments with Michael Jackson eating popcorn saying, "I just came here to read the comments" Cuz this is some crazy back and forth action going on! Sorry for interrupting. Proceed!

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DemonNeno
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 @ 7:22:46 PM
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If it's not turn based, then I'm not buying it. They can try their best to lure me into a crappy remake of a fan favorite, but dropping what made it just that defies the purpose.

In other words, I'm not buying it.

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