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What Would Make A PlayStation Fan Buy The Xbox 720?

The latest news is that Microsoft's new console might launch in spring 2014, which isn't that far off if you really think about it.

And depending on how you interpret Sony's most recent comments concerning the PlayStation 4, it's feasible that the Xbox 720 will be on store shelves before Sony's next hardware effort. If that's the case, what will make PlayStation followers spring for Microsoft's console in the new generation?

I suppose the question is a difficult one, as it entirely depends on the point of view: If you're a hardcore gamer and make it your mission to own every new piece of hardware, than it's a no-brainer. If, on the other hand, you're a bit more selective in your game spending, you're going to consider a number of factors. Firstly, did you have the Xbox 360 this generation and if so, how much use did you get out of it? Secondly, are you at all concerned that the 360's well-documented and downright catastrophic failure rates upon first launching will be a problem again? Will history repeat itself? Thirdly, the all-important price.

But beyond that, is Sony at any risk of losing fans after this generation? It seems to me - just in taking a quick survey of friends and acquaintances - that most are pretty darn pleased with how the PS3 came out, and are content with remaining pleased for quite some time. We've still got major PS3 exclusives on the horizon (Beyond: Two Souls, The Last Of Us, God of War: Ascension, etc.) and let's face it, top-notch exclusive software is the haven of Sony. Unless, of course, a fantastic launch lineup for the 720 totally blows you away...that's always possible, right?

I think a lot of people are satisfied with the PS3 and furthermore, they believe the system has more to offer. They think Sony gave them what they wanted over the past five or six years, and I'm not sure if Microsoft did anything supremely special to lure ardent PlayStation followers away. The PSN is still free (Live still isn't), we've already got Blu-Ray, the games are definitely here (and more are coming), and heck, the PS3 might not even be that far behind the 720 in terms of sheer power. Who knows what Sony's machine really is capable of? I know I'm making a case for not buying the 720 but hey, I'm probably getting one.

I've had the Xbox and Xbox 360 and while neither was played anywhere near as often as the PS2 or PS3, I figure I need two consoles per generation. ...and the Wii U really isn't cutting it for me.

Tags: xbox 720, playstation, next-gen, next generation, playstation fans

6/20/2012 9:01:29 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (113 posts)

CaptRon
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:21:46 PM
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Nothing will ever make me buy an Xbox. Microsoft gets my money every time a Windows comes out. That's all they get. And I probably wouldn't even do that if I had another option besides linux and apple.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:22:15 AM

That's one of the things I hate about M$, they stole ideas from Apple.

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richfiles
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 2:39:32 PM

Who got the ideas from Xerox Parc...
Who got the ideas from Doug Engelbart and the Human Augmented Intellect Research Center at Stanford Research Institute from WAY back in 1968.

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manofchao5
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 7:12:25 PM

honestly ideas are always bought or borrowed, but I can't say if I would buy the xbox 720 or not based on what I know now, but if they keep their current business model of paying to play online, I'm not very likely to own their console, I do not wish to pay to play online, if the actual game developer can offer and experience worthy of paying for their server usage at a decent rate yes, but giving money just to go online, yeah no screw you microsuck

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:22:10 PM
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If the new Xbox offered more RPGs that I like (JRPGs) than the PS4 I would jump ship I think. Having said that the PS3 (and this generation of gaming) has really let me down when it comes to RPGs.

I don't think I will jump ship though since Sony offers far more actual exclusives then MS and the lack of RPGs seems to plague every console.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:17:56 PM

"If the new Xbox offered more RPGs that I like (JRPGs) than the PS4"

And the chances of that are...? ;)

Although I do agree.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:18:56 PM

Kotaku has a current running article on Nintendo and jRPGs.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/20/great-responsibility-nintendos-role-as-a-leader-in-japanese-rp/
Maybe the Wii U will be the place to be for those types?

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TheAgingHipster
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 11:05:33 PM

That's the big selling point for me, too--the games. I have a 360, but I hardly ever play it because the exclusives are virtually non-existent outside of the shooter realm, and the multiplatform titles are played on my PS3 for the controller. If the 720 has rockin' exclusives and a significant improvement in hardware reliability, I'll buy one.

That being said... I'll never completely jump ship. Sony knows how to please their fans and supports a wider variety of gaming experiences, which is really nice in this overly homogenized game market.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:29:24 AM

@ Limited

360 did have Lost Odyssey at first, don't forget, one of the best (and only) JRPG's on the 360. Sure, it didn't sell cos the 360 belongs to the shooter crowd, but it did have that 1 really good one!

@ Aging Hipster

I'm the same, except for shooters. Nearly all shooters, 1st or 3rd person, I get on 360. Everything else, racers, platformers, music games, RPG's, action adventure games, I get all those on PS3. Plus, PS3 has more and better exclusives in my opinion.

Heck, when I had to first choose between buying a PS3 or 360, I almost went with 360 cos it had Gears of War, Mass Effect, Halo 3 and all multiplats at the time ran better on 360. GTA IV in the PS3 bundle changed my mind. I'm so happy with my PS3!! :)

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 1:10:21 AM

I found out about Lost Odyssey after my 360 died. I'd love to try it out someday, maybe when the 360 drops in price.

I know Ben, pretty sad that the PSP and DS have been my go to gaming devices for RPGs this generation of gaming.

Tem I'm not a fan of Nintendo anymore...I don't see anything I like about the WiiU.

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richfiles
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 3:01:39 PM

I gotta agree that Nintendo has been the RPG king of this generation. My DS, and later, 3DS is my second most played system, thanks to great classic RPGs like Chrono Trigger. Nintendo has seen fit to release some impressively unique RPG experiences. The PS3 is a wonderful piece of hardware, but I have no trust or faith in the decency of Sony as a company, not after they stole from me the most powerful computer in my house by removing Other OS. They also have poor customer relations. BACKUP your data. I give MAJOR credit to Microsoft on one point. THey treat your saved data as a precious thing. They allow hard drive swapping, let you send a system in, but keep your hard drive, and even make the data transfer cable. Sony is much less caring for your data. Locking it down so you can't copy some of your saves, and having NO RECOURSE of recovery, if your system fails, and locking drives to hardware, so you can't swap.

At least Nintendo has the SD card slot for save data.

Nintendo wins this round for RPGs. Sony only follows because the system is better than 360, and I like Fallout and Skyrim.

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Doppel
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:23:52 PM
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What would make me buy a 720?

I personally wouldn't, because I invested so much time and money on my PSN account. And I really love my PSN name. :P

Hopefully the PS4 would still remain Free for basic online play. I'm a plus subscriber at the moment, but you got to appreciate PSN's free online play.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:08:03 PM

It's nice that Plus finally pays for itself and then some. I never thought they'd give us full budget games and now there's a bunch of em.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:25:43 AM

U nailed it right their, PSN.

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Hynad
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:24:05 PM
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Microsoft has a lot of catch up to do when it comes to first party exclusives.

Yeah, I really like the Fable series, but Halo and Forza? Not so much.

They have very little to convince me I should own their system and theirs only.

Sony has awesome first party studios that this gen, at least for me, surpassed those from Nintendo.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:31:29 AM

Forza 4's handling of the Top Gear license was far better than that of GT 5's.

Apart from that, GT 5 was the better racer of the two. Forza 4 has more mainstream appeal while GT 5 caters more to the real car-loving crowd.

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Sunni_Boi
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 5:40:25 AM

I agree dance, id take Forza 4 over Gran Turismo 5 anyday. I used to love Gran Turismo, but the older I get the more of an casual gamer I become.

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MrAnonymity
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:37:50 PM
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Not even an energy drink dispenser attachment would convince me to buy an XBOX in any form. As far as I am concerned, if Sony dies off or really gives their loyal fans the big "F-U" then I am done with gaming.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:31:58 AM

Nintendo? :)

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Mr_Sterg
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:22:35 AM

HAHA wow. COmplete fan

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:27:50 AM

If that's the case, I'm going back to Nintendo which started it all for me.

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ZettaiSeigi
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:50:15 PM
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As much as I'd like to play some of the Xbox exclusives (e.g. Alan Wake, Gears of War, Fable I and II), I really dislike anything that has Microsoft's hand on it. Might be a silly idea, I know, but that's just me.

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bebestorm
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 9:50:18 PM
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Yes I would buy would a 720 because Ive never been a gamer that has brand attachment I love playing good games so why limit myself. I bought a 360 for Lost Odssey and few other games but today I no longer own one.

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DarthNemesis
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:00:03 PM
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Exclusive games,but I won't hold my breath.

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wackazoa
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:49:52 AM

Exactly... only reason I bought my PS2 was squaresoft. Only reason I bought PSP at launch was Grand Theft Auto.( Although I still havent forgiven Rockstar for that.)



Xbox you want my money. Have exclusives that I would want to play. Pay huge money to Bethesda to have TES exclusive games. Pay Rocksatr big money. Otherwise there is no reason I would switch. Unless Sony does something stupid like make me pay to play online.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:44:11 AM

So you're saying you would switch if Sony started making you pay to play online, when you'd be switching to a company that already does that? Hmm. Not sure I understand the logic?

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wackazoa
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 8:54:43 AM

Depends on who is cheaper for the consoles. But more likely I'd switch to PC.

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tes37
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:02:05 PM
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I have no interest whatsoever in MS consoles. They don't make any games that I want to play now and I'm certain they will continue that trend.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:03:55 PM
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I fall into the "no brainer" category. I don't know really why it is exactly, but I basically always get hardware that is trying to appeal to my interests, and if it has quality software to back itself up, of course. The earliest Christmas I can remember had my family receiving an Atari 2600. Ever since then, no matter who was making the console, or where it was coming from, if it had hot games, we got it. I didn't really have a conditioned bias onset from childhood. I would observe kids and peers who could only have one system so they made themselves feel better by resolving that the didn't want any other system and built hardened emotional boundaries around themselves, seemingly into adult hood, just to further placate that early emotional bias, at least that's how it seemed to me. I remember kids who intentionally hated on FFVII because it was on PLaystation and not on a Nintendo platform. Old arguments over cartridge and CD's haha. Thankfully, my older brother always had the money to get whatever system was hot and the games to go with it. Anyway, so as long as the next Xbox isn't some radical departure that's far removed from my core interests, I'll be on board. DOn't know if I'll hop on right away, seeing that MS had such poor quality control over their hardware during 360's initial years. But either way, I can expect killer apps by killer devs.

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firesoul453
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:09:48 PM
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If they want me to get one of those then they would need to release tons of awesome games that I can't get anywhere else.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:13:14 PM
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Microsoft shouldn't be making hardware period. What would get me to buy one? It would have to be a rock solid machine without RROD and offer much needed gaming experiences that Playstation doesn't and it's hard to see that happening. It would have to come with a dinosaur too.

I think the 720 will be almost purely for 3rd party software and there's no reason to own hardware for that when the PS3 and PS4 offer all the same 3rd party games plus pulse pounding exclusives.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:29:17 PM

pffft, so you're saying you don't want the lastest CoD expansions FIRST? Are you saying you don't want a SUPERIOR Xbox LIVE digital entertainment service COMPLETE with cross-chat play, offering you all of the latest tv networks and Gold Member exclusive deals? Are you saying you don't want to see Halo 6 or 7? jeesh man, what the crap? Until then, try to have fun NOT playing the latest MS Kinect sensation, Steel Batalion: Heavy Armor. =p

(written from my Windows 8 surface tablet)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:37:15 PM

Hahaha. Surfaaaaaaaace!

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frylock25
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:15:13 PM
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games. exclusive games. that is about it. that being said i dont really think M$ has it in them to keep games exclusive. they really dont seem to care about anything but making sony look bad. they dont even do a good job of that either. sony offers a diverse library of games.

im really not impressed with the 2 xbox incarnations so far and i dont feel that i will be the next time. almost everything that they had exclusive they lost.

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Raze22
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:36:49 PM
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Even though I can't really consider myself a ps fan. I'm more a fan of gaming. I skipped both xbox and 360 because of failure rates. Despite that, there are some games that I would like to play that are only available on those systems. I'm praying xbox 720 is at least fully backwards compatible to 360 or to all of them which I highly doubt it. Not buying it day one and hoping failure rates are non existent. Only getting live gold if I really have to. Reminds me of PS plus except without all the cool benefits -___-. One thing I'm looking forward to is the internet explorer.

The wii u will be my first day one purchase for a console ever. Extremely excited and I can't wait to see what developers are going to do with it. Not getting move or kinetic, they simply don't care so the future of those add on systems are going no where.

I'm happy with my ps3 so sony can take their sweet time for ps4. DON'T rush it and no high price even though I probably pay it regardless. I think the market right now is pretty much set in stone and they won't recapture the crowd that enjoyed ps2. Then jumped over to xbox. This goes vice-versa. So in my opinion, there is absolutely nothing that would make a ps fan buy xbox if they haven't already.

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Gordo
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:38:26 PM
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The only way I would end up with a xbox is if it was free when I bought a TV or something. No way would I put good money down for it.

I would rather stick with my Vita than that!

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:46:45 PM
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There's a few games that I'd have liked to play on the 360, but there was far more I wanted to play on my PS3, and I just can't afford both. I see that happening again next gen, but only if Sony isn't far behind MS in launching a system. The 360 had a huge advantage and every developer was more than familiar with it by the time the PS3 released and I see a trend that some developers just didn't want to take the time to get everything right. That can't happen again.

Sony still has a very strong first party lineup, and that's something MS doesn't have and won't gain in the time from now until next spring.

But I've always liked the Playstations, it's all I need really.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:47:06 PM
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As a gaming collector, I'd have to buy one just for collection purposes.

As a Gamer, & even though I'm all about the Playstation brand name, I'd still buy a 720, if it even has any exclusives left after it comes out.

But.....since I'm a massive hater of M$ due to their unscrupulous ways & lack of business ethics so anything I buy from them(other than already computer -installed), will be "Used" only(except for "Live" cards which I will only buy when they're on sale for $35 at Amazon, etc), so M$ will never get to see another penny from from me.

BTW, my original Xbox was bought as a "used refurb" & is still kicking it just fine.

And I only bought my COD MW2 360 "new" because I couldn't trust a used machine not to RROD, or that the former 360 didn't abuse the hell out of it.
Plus it had the newer Jasper chipset in it & it's still doing fine, although I usually only use it anymore to sample games I buy for the collection, and a whole lot of Netflix.

And since it was actually somebody else's pre-order that I talked my GS guys into selling to me, I loved the thought that I just might've taken this machine away from one of those trash-talking Bozo's we all hate.

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Lord carlos
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 10:52:50 PM
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Gears & Alan wake are not enough
I'll stay where the games are!

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Metal Head
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 11:01:34 PM
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I have the money, but I will never ever buy an Xbox or Nintendo console. Xbox is successful because developers get a huge chunk of money from Microsoft. I don't have alot of time to game as I did. I'm having trouble keeping up with my gaming library. Playstation is the only brand that offers the most diverse library in gaming history period.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 11:06:16 PM
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Gran Turismo going to the XBox.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:33:54 AM

That was suppose to be a question.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 4:57:50 PM

Ben asked what it would take for someone to buy an XBox, and that was my answer.

Since everyone knows GT will never make an appearance on an XBox, that means I will never own one.

Again.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 7:20:06 PM

ok

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ulsterscot
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 11:12:32 PM
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Yes I'll grab one to fill the space in my cabinet beside the PS4.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 11:37:32 PM
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Not a damn thing. The company as a whole blows hardcore. I have never been satisfied with any product I've owned made by MS. I went in half with a friend for a 360 when it launched, I learned my lesson. Never again. I'm about ready to sell my Vaio and replace it with a Mac because I am so dissatisfied with Windows 7 and how crappy it's running after the 200+ updates from MS since I've had the damn thing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:06:34 AM

I would do that too but I don't understand Macs, as Spock would say they are illogical.

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Qubex
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 3:59:12 AM

Jawk, I get what you are saying about Windows generally, but I want to raise a few points. These have been experienced and dealt with over time.

Regarding Windows performance - I cannot assume whether or not you are an "experienced" Windows OS user, however, I can speak for myself and my experience as a whole.

I feel very strongly that Windows XP was M$ best OS to date. After using it for a number of years I really got to understand how to set it up the way I wanted it to work. One of the criteria was to find ways to manage Windows Services.

I really optimised the experience, turning off everything I didn't need running from "start-up". I de-skinned XP, and removed all visual trickery. I set it up to be almost Linux-like.

The result was an extremely responsive OS, that booted up in less than 20 seconds from a cold boot. On my older 4gig laptop, by the time Windows XP had booted, checking Task Manager, the system (whilst idle), used a poultry 289mb of system ram. Click on start and launching reasonably sized applications was close to instant. There was no grinding of the hard disk.

I have done similarly for Windows 7. I have my version flying after de-skinning and removing the "plug in and play" elements of the OS; meaning I tell it what I want it to do rather than it automating things and popping up requesters and the like.

Issue is you have to spend time to learn and optimise the system. Frankly, the majority of home users don't have time to do this nor do they know how to do it. I guess you need to be in that geek realm.

So whilst I can understand were you are coming from, and agree somewhat; M$ has made software that is essentially open and flexible. Not as open as Linux, but close enough if you know what you are doing.

I have no objection using Windows, only because I know how to optimise it and manage it...

Also Windows 8 RT doesn't seem slow to me. Looks like some elements of v8 have been re-engineered from the ground up and I think it will be even more responsive than both Windows XP and Windows 7.

Generally I don't think M$ is all bad as many people opposed to them make them out to be. What they do they do reasonably "well". They know how to make money, and in the end their balance sheet speaks the truth. I too do not "particularly" like to use their products - I feel they lack "soul", but for a decent amount of people out there, M$ still provides a service they can live with; and it's good enough to still command handsome profits the world over.

Apple, Linux and Android are great to give further choice to the consumer, and as more and more consumers experience tablet computing, and more responsive lighter OS's, so M$ will have to respond to stay relevant... and responding they are...

We will see in twelve months time how well their new Surface table sells and how well accepted v8 has been by the general public at large...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:48:48 AM

I had the least amount of problems with XP but still has issues nonetheless. I've just become very tired of having to restore my computer every 6 months to clear up some unknown issue. Everytime I do that I have another problem. Like right now my computer keeps dropping its Wifi signal. Every 2 to 3 minutes it's disconnects and reconnects for no apparent reason. I have updated and reset my router, as well as updated my wireless card drivers. Still not working. I have never had these issues with our iMac. I understand how optimizing the OS can make it run smoothly, my problem with MS is that they build OS's that need that much optimization in the first place and they have a monopoly on the market. I really dislike what they didn't to Linux with their FUD campaign. They tried doing it to Sony too. It's dishonest and is complete scumbaggery in my opinion.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:59:04 AM

MS creates all of its products both software and hardware in such a way that they fall apart quickly and on purpose.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:36:39 AM

that sucks, never had a real problem yet.

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Qubex
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 3:37:39 AM

Funny Jawk, I know what you are saying. I too have experienced some of these things...

Simply put Windows is NOT a smooth experience for the majority of people. You will always get people who feel let down by it... but I can say this, if one knows how to manage it, optimise it and get Windows to do what you want it to do by keeping things relatively simple, then it can work well for most of it's active life.

Problem also occurs when people go on an installation binge, installing these funny browser bars, overloaded anti-virus programs, hectic desktop and are generally disorganised in their OS usage... seems to grind the poor computer and OS to a halt.

Simply put, one has to do "house keeping" in order to keep Windows working well. Delete temp folders, keep registry healthy, defragment hard disk at least once a month etc...

There some things that people have to do to keep their machines working well and smoothly. The OS will not do this for you...

Laziness and ignorance unfortunately, over a prolonged period of time, destroys any Windows experience in the end...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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AshT
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 @ 11:44:04 PM
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I'm happy with my PS3, and i will wait for Sony to release PS4 when they see fit.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:23:45 AM
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The only thing that made me buy a 360 is because all my friends had one and many of them refused to buy a PS3 since 360 had most of the exclusives and better multiplats at the time.

Xbox Live and cross game chat was a big plus as well. For PS4 to win the next gen, there's a few things they can learn from 360's strengths:

1. Concave L2 and R2 triggers. The LT and RT triggers on the 360 are wonderful!! The ONLY thing I prefer on the 360 controller. The PS3 controller is great for everything else.

2. Release the PS4 less than 3 months after the Xbox 720, or even a few months before if the hardware is high quality and ready! If MS get more than 3 months head start, PS4 will be screwed over again.

3. Improve the download and upload connection speeds on PSN. Streamed videos tend to lag very heavily, whereas Xbox Live has no lag at all!! Downloads on PSN take nearly forever, usually sitting at 1.5 Mbits/sec. Xbox Live, 7 Mbits/sec. I know it's not my connection!!

4. Cross game chat, multi-video chat rooms, more social features for the young'uns allowing them to chat with ALL of their friends while playing games. So more system RAM to allow that!

5. A massive HDD to store all my media, downloads, games, etc. Net speed in Australia isn't quite ready for streaming just yet.

6. Backwards Compatability. I know it's not the most important thing, but if the 720 can play 360 games but the PS4 can't play PS3 games, my money will (at first) go to MS. Not only that, all my friends are huge Halo, Mass Effect and Gears of War fans, and I love playing online with them.

7. Exclusive games. PS4 will have this in the bag. But with a new console generation comes the chance for developers to start fresh with new IPs. Sequels sell, but lately new IPs like Watch Dogs and Ni No Kuni have been getting a LOT of attention!


Honestly, around Christmas 2014, I'll be asking for the console that my friends will be playing and that is backwards compatable with my collection of games. Be it PS4 or Xbox 720, the console that meets my needs will be the console I get. I used to be a brand fanboy to Sony, but now I'm more open. :)

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:48:21 AM

yah, either concave or the same design triggers as the PS2. Had to pay 5 bucks for those over sized triggers that snap on the PS3 L2/R2 buttons cause they feel more natural.

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Qubex
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 3:41:25 AM

Dance... remember there are cost implications to gigabytes of ram and terabytes of storage. If you want a cheap price that be prepared to not have all those things.

No doubt Ram and HD space will be improved upon, but the question is by how much.

Actually, thinking about it now... 8gigs of Ram and a 1 terabyte HD for storage by 2014 may not be so costly... anyway we will have to wait and see.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Beamboom
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:43:47 AM
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I can say for 100% certain that I'll never get me an xbox.
Practically every game I enjoy the most are multiplats anyway, and there'd take more than a few exclusives - no matter how good they are - for me to bother getting a second console.

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Mog
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:47:27 AM
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Only if final fantasy 7, 8 or 9 was remade for 720.
But what are the chances of that happening? Oh wait, nobody can predict square-enix these days.

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Russell Burrows
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:03:10 AM
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Dust 514 is on PS3 only and soon on PS4.
Uncharted? Ps3
God of war? Ps3
R and C? PS3

And now back to CCP area.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:22:17 AM
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A whole bundle of games that interest me and are only available on the 720. But MS has done a s**t of a job on that front so far. Of all of their current major exclusives (that I'm aware of), the only one that interests me is Alan Wake. Everything else is either boring to me, or I'm happily served by other games in the same/similar genres. I don't care about the graphics or the physics, meaning that so long as the early games are cross-generational (and I imagine most of them being so), I'll be happy with the PS3. And Kinect 2.0? Don't make me laugh.

In short... an impossible situation would make me buy a 720.

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Dante399
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:27:37 AM
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I'm definitely buying one for I'm a fan of gaming not consoles.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:48:44 AM
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In all honesty If all my franchises I like on the Playstation go on to the XBOX. It's already happened so much this gen so I can see it happening. Also if the PS4 is against backwards compatibility and wont let use play our downloaded games from the PS3 Store. Basically I wnt a console which sticks to it's past and holds onto it's future.

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___________
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 5:26:13 AM
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games!
however they need to shove kinect where it belongs, and focus on what gave them the position in the industry in the first place!
instead of doing a mix of core games and casual games, if M$ wants to compete next gen they need to go back to their old ways!

i wouldent be surprised if they muscle their way in the same way they did this gen, by simply just turning up first.
which will help them allot.
price is pretty much irrelevant, as i said the other day as long as people feel like their getting value for money their not too fussed on price!
those who look at getting a new console on launch are the ones who can afford to spend a bit of money.
i just hope M$ and $ony understand that and really push out the most cutting edge systems possible, and dont do a ninty on us and cheap out!

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JohnnyGold
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 5:46:35 AM
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Well, as much as this pains me to admit it...

And as much as Ben doesn't want to have this discussion (lol)...

Trophies play a big part in this decision. If mine carry over AND MOST IMPORTANTLY if me and my wife can play the same game, at the same time, on the same system, and BOTH EARN TROPHIES.. then yes, Ill get a PS4.

If our trophies don't carry over - Ill get a xbox just to spite Sony. But if we can't have simultaneous PSN logins next gen, I might just go with xbox anyways.

My best friend lives in Minnesota. My family lives in Buffalo. I got good friends in California, Texas, Florida. As I get older, work more, start a family, I see my good childhood friends a few times a year. It's getting to the point where if they DONT buy a ps4, Ill just get an xbox so I can play with them online.

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Temjin001
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 8:49:56 AM

trophies look good on resumes

=p

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xnonsuchx
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 6:53:49 AM
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I'm just sick of the non-stop BS articles about totally unverified information. Day 1 - "Is this coming out next week?"; Day 2 - "No, it isn't, but is it coming out at all?"; Day 3 - "Yes, it probably is, but later."; Day 4 - "Some schmuck said everyone's wrong and here's his nonsensical take."; Day 5 - "Maybe we'll skip a day of useless contemplation"; Day 6 - "Hey! Another schmuck said something, so we have to report it! Whaddaya think?"; Day 7 - "The company denies everything"; Day 8 - "Let's take another day off"; Day 9 - "All new sequels to everyone's favorite games will be on a new system!"; Day 10 - "Another schmuck negates all previous rumors w/ more nonsense"; Day 11 - "Another day off? No, we want your feedback on all the useless info you've already heard"; Day 12 - "The company said something vaguely cryptic, so what can we totally make up about it?"; Day 13 - "OK, another day off"; Day 14 - "We think everyone missed the last 2 weeks of 'coverage,' so let's rehash it all over and over until there's some actual news."

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 9:56:43 AM

Not sure what that's all about, but it's good to know that everyone who has anything to say about anything in this industry is a "schmuck" in your eyes.

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wackazoa
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:05:28 AM

I get the point that we keep hearing rumors about systems that might or might not even be in production in the near future.... but Ben's job is to report the news..... and this is news. Cliche I know but..... ahem, "If you dont like the story, dont read it".

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AshT
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:13:27 AM

that was funny LOL

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xnonsuchx
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 3:51:56 PM

Regarding rumors, I know that this site's just reporting what other gaming news sources report, so it's more a statement on them.

The "schmucks" are the lying attention whores telling those news sources all sorts of obviously made-up garbage that, unfortunately, those news sources go ahead and report either out of boredom, apathy towards being factual, or maybe even bias. Part of the problem is also that if one news source reports something (regardless of being obviously false or not), many others don't want to seem left out of that 'news,' so go ahead and repeat it.

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CrusaderForever
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 7:29:24 AM
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Yeah, been there and done that wasn't impressed. M$ is a company that I don't want anything to do with in gaming. Unfortunately I need their OS. I am a gamer and would probably make the jump if Sony first and then Nintendo second went under and M$ was king. But that will never happen so it's a no from me. Long Live Play! :)

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kraygen
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 8:13:16 AM
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If it was stable and started offering exclusive games that I was interested in playing I'd get one. This gen, the 360 has less than 10 games I can't play elsewhere that I actually want to play.

So new xbox would have to start some serious first party gaming before I'd buy.

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Deleted User
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 8:17:58 AM
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At some point, barring a gaming crash, I probably will own a PS4, Xbox 720 and even a Wii U. However, I probably would be very cautious regarding the 720 since its predecessor has a horrible reputation with shoddy construction,an online community filled with little kids, no exclusives and way too much nickel-and-diming to get the most out of it. If it weren't for Microsoft paying off the journalists to kiss their butt everyday, our dumbed-down populace would probably realized they bought into a money pit.

Of course, said dumbed-down populace thought Soulja Boy had talent.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 9:18:02 AM

You didn't think "Kiss me Thru tha phone" was a masterpiece like I did?

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wackazoa
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:06:40 AM

Call me maybe ?

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slugga_status
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 9:00:34 AM
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For me, the question isn't if I'll buy it but when. There's a few things that I need to see in order to make it a instant buy..For example, free online gaming..

As a gamer, I can't limit myself to one console. Although my preference will always be a Sony console..

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Rogueagent01
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 9:06:21 AM
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Well as a collector I will eventually get one, but it will be around the time the X1080 is ready to launch and it will probably be from a friend who needed the money. I have an original Xbox, and I bought that for $50 with games and accessories, I will do the same for the 360 especially since there is nothing I really even want to play on it.

The only company that could get me to leave Sony is Sega, and I don't think they are ever gonna get back into the console business, which is a shame. Nintendo and Microsoft couldn't get me on board with there systems even if they paid me to play them.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 9:14:57 AM
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I owned both the original Xbox and the PS2. Xbox Live (and the Halo series) was a huge draw that really made me shift from playing my PS2 most of the time to playing Xbox most of the time.

Naturally I got Xbox 360 when it first launched (went through 3 units because of the RROD...but I didn't have to pay each time because of the extended warranty so I can't complain too much). However, this generation Microsoft shifted from trying new things like they did with the original Xbox (weird first party titles that I actually enjoyed: Voodoo Vince, Crimson Skies, Jet Grind Radio-SEGA title I know, MechAssault, Blinx, Brute Force, Project Gotham Racing- RIP Bizzare Creations) to sticking with a tried a true formula: rotate Gears of War and Halo releases every other year, sprinkle in Fable and Forza titles, release Kinect. Outside of Halo 3, Halo Reach, the Gears titles, and Fable 2, I have not accumlated a great library of exclusives. However, nearly all my friends own/prefer a 360 over PS3 for some reason, so that comes in handy when I want to play Halo with them.

The PS3 however, has had such a diverse and robust selection of (quality) titles this generation with so many first party studios, etc. I hope that Sony is able to maintain all the studios and not have the same thing happen to them what happened to MS this generation (kill off all the poor-performing studios based on sales, and stick to 4-5 first party IPs only).

If the rumors are true about the next Xbox coming with a new version of Kinect, that's actually a turn off for me. I have no interest in motion controll gaming, and don't think I ever will (outside of hours of drunken nights playing Wii bowling). If MS plans on spending more time and money on releasing crappy Kinect games than trying to create new IPs for the hardcore type I might be done with them.

Ultimately I probably see myself owning both consoles at some point as I do like certain games on each (though much more on Playstation). The launch line up, price, and release date will probably decide which one I buy first.

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Condemnedsoul23
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:07:30 AM
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I wouldn't buy the XBOX if Microsoft paid me.

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AshT
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:12:04 AM

Hey, i wud take it if they paid me, just for the fun of it :)

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redman479
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:48:23 AM
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Nothing at all.

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Mr_Sterg
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:15:47 AM
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I'll have to wait a few years to see the games. That is the biggest indicator for me. I made that HUGE mistake with the wii. I got a wii early on because they had lots of great titles initially. But after first few years the lineup went straight downhill and the opposite occured with the PS3. So could happen with the 720 and PS4 too.

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Mr_Sterg
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:16:04 AM
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Great article Ben.

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Mr_Sterg
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:19:28 AM
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I don't like Halo, Gears, Fable and Forza enough to switch either. Based on E3 it seems Microsoft is still relying on old ipo's

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ethird1
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:22:00 AM
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It ticks me off that PSN doesnt have Guardian Heroes HD, like Xbox live does. Grrrr. I will skip the new xbox because I just got this feeling Sony is going to knock the doors off of the next system, not only in graphics, speed, and PSN stuff, but the price as well.

Besides, with all the rpgs on the Vita and life, I just dont have the time for another console.

Although if Dragon Quest Online comes out in america I would buy a Wii just to play it.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:54:31 PM
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Nothing could pull me to an Xbox at this point. For a start the majority of the games I have purchased are exclusive to PS3, and many are franchises that are PS exclusive. Unless all those franchises are suddenly going to be on Xbox only, there's no way, no reason, and no chance of me getting any Xbox.

I suspect that is the same for many gamers. Microsoft's lack of 1st party games means it will once again be beholden to 3rd parties and will spend money to buy exclusivity. Sony needs to work now to ensure that as many high profile game makers as possible are already contractually encumbered in a way that prevents such exclusivity being purchase as it was for the 360.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 1:07:54 PM

Are you referring to timed-exclusivity? All the major 3rd party companies and games are 99% of the time multiplatform. CoD obviously has the timed DLC exclusive content, but other than that I can't think of many major 3rd party games that were released soley for one console.

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:20:06 PM

Assassin's Creed is a good example of a popular multiplat that treats PS3 better.

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Qubex
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 3:42:59 AM

Highlander, I hope we all don't eat humble pie when the new XBOX is released... M$ is not about to give up on the fight, and with 50 billion in the bank that needs to spent, it won't be long before they go on a studio buying binge.

The question is how long can Sony keep its exclusive edge?

That is the question!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Highlander
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 9:57:49 AM

Jimmy, I'm referring to the dump trucks of money that MS drove up outside Square Enix, Namco and other companies in order to secure exclusivity for certain games early in this generation. A practice that has very nearly caused the JRPG genre to wither and die thanks to a split and diffused audience. Tales of Vesparia, for example. There are others, all in the JRPG genre, that MS bought up early and either held exclusivity on in the NA/EU markets or had contractual terms preventing a PS3 version being built until 12-18 months after the Xbox version.

Qubex, nothing will make me eat humble pie if it involves buying a product from Microsoft. The only MS product that ever passes into my household is the copy of Windows bundled with a PC.

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Mr_Sterg
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 11:26:35 AM

Yea i think in order to ensure that they have to make sure they don't get some huge 3rd party game that everyone buys the console for. Ex: COD. I'm sure M$ gets tons of dough from that game and hence why they don't care about exclusives anymore. So its kinda funny cuz that has not occured with PS so Sony has to keep pulling those exclusives out of its pocket.

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Mr_Sterg
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 11:27:39 AM

WHat about a windows 8 phone or tablet? Could that pass through your house? lol

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:21:08 PM
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I used to own an XBOX and a 360. But at this point, to go back, it'll need something downright astonishing. And I mean, HUGE. Huger than huge. Like, they'd have to have an exclusive version of an FF7 remake or something.

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burnlife308
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 2:25:35 PM
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I beleive consoles are holding back the future of gaming their should be a universal console for PC, Microsoft and Sony. With the options to upgrade the GPU or CPU and MB or whatever when you want to upgrade. This would make it far easier for dev companies to put their time and money into one platform instead of doing it on one then waste time and money porting it onto other devices.

Sony, Microsoft and Steam could still exist just instead of putting their time into platform advances they could fund dev companies for games build an amazing U.I so the gamer will want their U.I for their console instead of the competitors charging a yearly subscription for the U.I you choose to use on your console. You may also have the option to use multiple U.I's say if you like Sony's U.I but you want Microsoft's Streaming TV services.

Also any game developed will be able to play on your console say if Sony funded the development of the game but you use Steams U.I you can still play it cause either way Sony is getting the $$$. You may also have the option of using any controller you please they should all be BT compatible and even still make gimmicks like Kinect or Move.

I just believe the the whole platform should be a generalized open code system like openGL. Each of the 3 companies can have 1 representative from each company to approve games DLC patches and so forth . The voting system could be majority wins even if say Sony votes no but M$ and Steam vote yes for a new indie game then it will still be in the store and will be able to download on any U.I.

They can split the money 3 ways when publishing companies put a game in the store for sale even if say Sony funded the game the other 2 companies would still make their initial % of $$$ for each sale of a game and of course Sony would make the rest just like a dev companies submitted game. I believe companies would take alot more risks with games which would benefit the consumer with games that would never be funded in todays marketplace.

With this system in place the companies funding the game would be more persuaded to fund the project. Their would be many benefits with this general platform in palce much larger multiplayer communities which would make for a longer running game being able to develop more DLC's.

I believe this next idea would be the most beneficial to the consumer and publishing developing companies but would be the hardest to convince them. I would live to see an open mod tool system on any game. Each mod would be submitted and if approved for the store can go on sale with the mod developer making a % of sales income.

This would make companies put alot more time and effort into initial game releases and instead of having the same game with a few upgrades released every year you would watch the game grow over years with participation of the community and developers. With the mod sales supporting the companies future title that they can develop over 3-5 years with financial backing threw mod sales.

The intial cost may be pricey but they could have 3 diffrent systems at release for each price range and over time you can upgrade as need be. The lowest tier system would still be superior in graphics to the current PS3. So everybody that is pleased with PS3's current graphics would have no problem with the lower system but still enjoying the same gameplay and fun as someone that has a top of the line system.

Over time if you want better graphics and sound or multiple screens then you can upgrade when ready. Which in the long run would be cheaper then buying a new system every 8 years plus all new games controllers and if you want to play a game that your console does not make then you got to purchase a whole other console. I don't see to many negatives to this and I believe the positives out weight the negatives greatly and it will only get better over time.

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farfus
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 3:01:42 PM
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Very interesting idea, Burnlife, and i think for practicality it would be a great way to go for the future of consoles. Im sorry that there seems to be a console war since enjoying great games is all ive ever cared about, myself. I was a Sony fan for a long time and held off buying a next gen console for a good while until i got a great deal on a 360 almost four years ago. Since so many of the same games are on both systems ive never seen a need for another console. I think getting a 360 about 3 years into its inception has helped me (or just plain luck) to have a good working machine that i loved to death. But im all about the good games and whatever system they come out on thats the one for me, so the idea of them being consolidated to one system actually makes a great deal of sense.

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daus26
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 3:34:20 PM
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Let's face it, even if the PS3 at launch didn't fail as hard as the 360, it's still pretty bad. Just survey how many people bought the console at launch, that are still actively using it, and still running it? Chances are somewhere around the 2nd or 3rd year or so, you'll get the ylod. That's not any better. If it's gonna break down, at least be 4-5 years like the original PS2 did.

Both consoles had to have a "slim" redesign to be reasonably reliable, so both of them, I can't trust at launch. Nintendo is the only one I can trust for this, and I'm not even much of a fan with them right now.

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Rogueagent01
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 8:45:12 PM

I still use my original 60gig almost everyday and have yet to get a YLoD. I also have a 160 that has not had an issue and just this year I picked up a slim that obviously hasn't had an issue. Out of the 200 plus members that have been in our clan only one has had a YLoD, so it really isn't as bad as you might think.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:45:41 PM

A surpsining amount of PS3 owners around here have been through more than one PS3. Jawk. Bikersaint, and Highlander all had PS3's fail on them in some way. My original PS3 YLOD'd on me before 3 years so I sent it off to Sony. The 60 gb they back lasted 9 months before they Blu Ray drive failed. :( If I rembember right that's exactly what happened to Jawk's. It would not read PS3 games. I have 3 PSN friends that are rocking PS3's that can't read games or blu ray movies.

Anyways, I said screw it and took a chance with a Gamestop refurb that came with a one year warranty versus Sony's 90 day warranty. The Gamestop refurbed was in prestine condition and the top was protected by plastic. Way better shape than Sony's refurbed they sent back to me that had a nasty scratch that almost looked like it was done with a straight edge and box cutter right accross the shiny top of the PS3. Somebody must have had it in a small box and the PS3 was right against the cardboard, When somebody used a box cutter to open it they cut into the top of PS3. Nice. I know that's cosmetic but that Sony refurbed lasted all of nine months.

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Clamedeus
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 6:30:48 PM
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I'm fine with what I have, but If I was to get something, it would definitely be a PS4, or a high-end gaming PC. I'm working on getting a gaming PC off my buddy, and when I get extra money I can upgrade it when I need to, it can play BF3 on Medium and other games as well, so I'll be happy with just a PS3 and PC really.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:18:39 PM
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That'a easy to answer. Repeat the mistakes they made this generation. We didn't watch Sony go from market leader to last place without some valid reasons,

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Highlander
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 10:03:36 AM

When this generation is all done, Sony will not have finished in any place but first based on total revenue and total lifetime unit sales. Your constant bias and Sony bashing despite your own protestations that you don't do it make you appear to be an ass.

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homura
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 1:11:35 AM
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I love my playstation 3 but somehow i want to buy a nintendo wii just so i can play Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story. Yeah! Exclusive Games matters.

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Mogreen
Saturday, June 23, 2012 @ 12:41:44 AM
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If Microsoft Changed the name of their company to Sony, had all of Sony's 1st parties, had the rights to all of Sony's exclusive IP's, Called their controller Daulshock 4 that resembles the previous Sony Daulshocks, but with improvements, had free Online play, continued my trophies stats from PS3 and PSVita, and let me play all my games and movies from the PS Store, was backward compatible with the PS3 games, had an included blu ray player, and focused more on all genre's of games and not primarily shooters... I would definitely get the X720 :)

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jugheadjones
Saturday, June 23, 2012 @ 1:57:36 AM
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Quite honestly, it's the same question I asked myself over the past few generations - Sony or Microsoft? I trust Microsoft for tech. I mean, I have always had a pretty good computing experience and have played some really good Microsoft games for Windows before XBOX. I have also been buying Sony electronic equipment for many, many years, with no problems. My decision will be made the same way. Microsoft has Live, which you pay for, and Sony has PSN, which is free. XBOX has Halo. Ehh... Plays like any other big budget shoot-em-up. When it comes down to it, there isn't a reason for me to buy XBOX, except personal choice. I bought the PS3 because it was the cheapest Blu Ray player on the market, at the time, and I have had no problems, so I have no need for the XBOX. If it was really cheap at launch ("giving away the razor to make money on the blades" theory), I might be tempted to kick the tires on it, just for kicks; but I have no real reason to "choose" it.

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Claire C
Saturday, June 23, 2012 @ 12:40:42 PM
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If the PS4 is digital only and the 720 isn't.
If the PS4 excludes used games and the 720 doesn't.
If the PS4 is online only and the 720 isn't.
If the 720 launches first and has a launch game that I simply must have (Fallout 4?).
If the PS4 is $599.99 and the 720 is $399.99 or less.
If the PS4 isn't PS3 backwards compatible and the 720 is 360 backwards compatible.
If the PS4 emphasizes motion gaming and the 720 doesn't.


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Robochic
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:25:09 AM
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I will never buy a MS console, i was on that phone from day one in the first year of the 360 helping and listening to angry, upset, crying children because of the lack of time they got with their console due to RROD.

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Ather
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 4:15:43 PM
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Price. It's hwy it took me all these years to get one. It's why I'm a free Live member (Seriously, they make you pay for Facebook access? I get that on my Blu-Ray for free.) It's alos abse don value. And half of what they'll offer is valueless to me. Why pay for what I won't use?

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Tanker9111
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 7:24:11 PM
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the only thing that would make me want one is if it was FREE to SELL to a buy/trade/sell shop

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Caanimal
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 8:43:14 PM
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micro&soft(or anyone else) could give me the next console and I would turn around and sell it w/o a second thought. I dispise micro&soft so much that if I had any other way to run programs I would gladly take it, they get enough of my money w/ Windows and Office products... In fact it's cause of Office products(which I had to have cause of work) and micro&soft screwing me over so I had to buy Office Suite a total of 4 times over the years that I dispise them so much, among a few other reasons. Besides, 99% of the Xbox 360's game library is available on PC and now that I've bought a newer PC I don't have to worry about ever "needing" a Xbox to play a game I really want to play that isn't available on the Playstation platform.

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saintaqua
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 11:53:34 AM
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Maybe the complete death of Sony would make me buy one. ;)
I may get one though, or I may not. I played my 360 for maybe a total of 25 hours and ever since it's sat collecting dust.
The Wii fared better for me since I bought it before the PS3 but it hasn't been on in a few years now.
My PS3 has won hands down this generation, as did the PS2 and PS before it.

Sony needs a good stable of rpgs on the PS4 and I'll get it too.

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Gravelight
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:33:47 PM
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Never!

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Gravelight
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:33:52 PM
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Never!

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JROD0823
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 1:27:24 AM
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I would think about getting an X-Box one day, but Microsoft would have to make more than the 3 or 4 decent exclusives they have now to win me over.

They also would have to ditch their asinine proprietary HDDs, make controllers that had lithium ion batteries and had a proper analog setup, make Kinect games that are actually cool and not for 5 year olds, and they need to make sure that the first 20 million units don't red ring in a week.

Oh yeah, and they would need to give give me free games every month with my live subscription like Sony does with plus.

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